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          The National Midnight Star, Number 221

                  Monday, 22 April 1991
Today's Topics:
               Mystery Science Theater 3000
      Opening songs, beginning of "Time Stand Still"
                        Tom Sawyer
                     Mr Big with Rush
               Guitar Synths + other stuff
          Geddy's Steinberger + FM ( the band )
                  Big Nick's Beer Binges
                      T.C. Broonsey
               LATEST NEWS ON NEW ALBUM!!!
04/19/91 - The National Midnight Star #220 ** Special Edition **
              Progressive Rock Mailing List
                         Ayn Rand
                       Eraser Head
            the robert plant school of diction
        How to get Neil in your house real cheap!

From: Editor, The National Midnight Star
Subject: Administrivia

This is just a reminder to all you considering uploading files to the 
incoming ftp directory that Syrinx is a bit tight on disk space.  I am
still in the process of getting rid of issues 1-100 (maybe 1-200), and
moving them to another site with some availability.  (This means that
there will be some sort of automatic retrieval method in place.)  I will
also be moving them to another computer at my site, but they will not be
as accessible there.  As always, they are on the mail server at Ingr
until we hear otherwise.

Still, until this is done, there is not much disk to play with.  PLEASE
refrain from uploading any sound files, as they tend to be quite large.
There is one sound file currently available, but it is too big to go out
in mail from Ingr, and I can't make it available until I get more disk or
clear some space on the current one.  If and when sound files are available,
I'll post a big announcement here.

In the images arena, there are soon going to be quite a few more coming in
to the images directory, thanks to our co-founder, Jimmy.  There's about ten
or so files I'm awaiting a description of which will be available soon.

And, on a non-Rush note, the Yes show Friday night was *incredible*!  I
swear Rick Wakeman has about 14 fingers...  A must see for any 70's pomp-
rock fan.  High point:  "Heart of the Sunrise"; low point: No "Starship
Trooper." :-(  

It should hold me over until this fall sometime... :-)



Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 15:53:05 EST
Subject: Mystery Science Theater 3000

 Speaking of Mystery Science Theater 3000... There is an allusion to Rush
in every show. The gumball machine robot is named Tom Servo. (For those
robot illiterates, a 'servo' is a type of feedback device used in closed loop
robotic systems.) 'Servo' was substituted, quite obviously, to disguise a very
clever allusion to Rush: Tom Sawyer. It fits the context exceptionally well...

[ Umm, not to say I don't believe you, but what sort of proof/evidence do
  you have to back this up?  I've seen many (~15) MST3K shows, and only
  one Rush reference in them all.                               :rush-mgr ]

Miami is in Ohio, dammit!


Date:    Fri, 19 Apr 1991 17:13:09 CDT
Subject: Unsubcribe

Powers That Be:

Please unsubscribe me from



Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 19:48 CST
From: Blue Steel 
Subject: Opening songs, beginning of "Time Stand Still"

>Finally, about the Rush openers:  my brother and friends got
>this one.  Rush always opened the live shows with the first
>song off the _third_ album of the four that made up a live album.
>So, Bastille Day for ATWAS, Spirit of Radio for ESL, and finally,
>The Big Money for ASOH.   My brother predicted The Big Money
>would be the opener before it actually was.

Yeah, but on the Presto tour, they opened up with "Force 10" at Alpine Valley,
which is off the fourth album of the last live release. My guess is that they
simply go with good, strong, opening songs, like every other band does.

I posted this question a while back, with no response. At the very beginning of
"Time Stand Still," with the first guitar notes, there appears to be a nasty
droning sound underneath, like a bad taping or mixing job. Anybody else notice
it? Any comments?

One last question regarding the song "Distant Early Warning." Someone(s)
analyzed the lyrics not too long ago here. My question: can you find parallels
between Neil's lyrics and the video for that tune? My hunch is that they just
decided to have fun with it, having aliens pick up Geddy's son Julian and send
him off on a ride through the countryside on a missle. Doesn't seem nearly as
serious as the song itself.

Question for a friend: Anybody with info on a new U2 release? Mail me
personally, please. Also, when I tried to send to the address posted for a
Queensryche list, it bounced from their site. Anybody else with a lead on this,
or was it all a myth to begin with?

Kevin Tipple, aka Blue Steel, By-tor       University of Wisconsin - Platteville
Bitnet: ucskrt@uwplatt.bitnet              Platteville, Wisconsin  USA
"Do you actually have any cheese in this shop? If you say no, I'll have to
shoot you."  - Monty Python


Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 21:31:06 EDT
Subject: Tom Sawyer

Hello there!  Someone in the last posting (I can't remember who) asked if any
hard core Rush fans actually have Tom Sawyer as their favorite song.  Let me
just say that, since I started to really get into Rush about 2 1/2 years ago,
I have obtained all of their albums on cassette, 4 on CD, 5 posters, the
autobiography *Visions*, various pictures and tour books, two shirts, 4 of the
5 videocassettes, 5 or 6 bootlegs, and waited in line overnight for Rush tix
on their previous tour.  Is this hard core enough?  I'd like to add that my
favorite song is Tom fact, T.S. got me started into Rush.  Is it
so wrong that a catchy song becomes one's favorite?  I don't think so.  And
the song isn't *just* has some really deep is a
powerful song.  I guess what I am trying to say is that we all have different
tastes....later all!

   William MacDonald

"...he knows changes aren't permanent...but change is..."
   Rush, MP (1981)


Subject: Mr Big with Rush
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 11:31:23 WET
From: Moschops 

Hey gang,
        Does anybody who saw the guy's on the Last tour ( Presto )
remember the support group . Mr Big.
        Well if you were there, did the guitarist from Mr big come ouy
( sorry out ) to play the encore ( IN the Mood ) with Alex?

I was reading an Interview with Paul Gilbert ( Mr Big ) in Guitar
World, where he waqs saying that it was one of the hairiest moments in
his life . as he walked on stage ( This was a surprise for the guy's
as they were not expecting him to come on )

        But It went well.

[ This must have been in one of the first cities on the tour - they did
  this at many of the shows on the Presto tour, with other Mr. Big members
  also.                                                         :rush-mgr ]


Anytime things appear to be going better, you have overlooked


Subject: Guitar Synths + other stuff
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 14:55:34 WET
From: Moschops 

Hey Dudes,
        About the Guitar synth subject-
To Quote Edward Van Halen - A synth is a synth, a guitar is something
else - Why bast***ise the guitar  ( Well .. something like that )
I have played a Guitar synth in the past and have found them awkward
to play well due to the fact that the synth will convert any sound
into a synthy noise.~S[]

You cannot kill time without injuring eternity.


Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 15:55:34 WET
From: Moschops 
Subject: Geddy's Steinberger + FM ( the band )

        As far as I know Geddy has the very first production
Steinberger headless bass. Though what he is using now , I have no
idea of.

        AS for FM. There was a brit band called FM, but I believe that
they have now spilt up

  Find it hard to believe that Marillion were booed off the stagge
when they supported Rush - The fans must have been in a bad mood that

Also, Neil is *not* the best drummist in the world. His drumming suits
Rush right down to the ground, but there are better drummers than him.
If you want to listen to some try -
        Dave Weckl - Chick Corea Band

and     Mark Collins - ( Sorry for the plug - He plays in my band )

Don't Flame me for this - I do like Neil's playing, but I think he
should change the solo he does ( He has been playing it for years )

As for the other guys. Geddy is one of the most awesome Bass players
in the business.
There are better soloists than Alex, but at chords and atmospheric
stuff, he is one of the best.

        Well thats my $0.02  for the day.

BTW , Hi to Chris Marshall at Hatfield - When will we have this Jam?

Later Dudes


Quote From "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure"

    "Ted...In time i am sure that Wyld Stallyns will be most triumphant."


From: (Rotem A Elgavish)
Subject: Big Nick's Beer Binges
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 1:36:40 EDT

> I am a bit trashed, and listening to Oingo-Boingo, so I felt that it
> would be a wonderful time to post to the Rush board...
>     Let's go for the stream of conciousness effect (Spelling optional...)
>     Rush is an awesome band.  "Singer/Screamer" Geddy Lee deserves far
> more credit from folks than he gets.  So his voice can be compared to
> the squeals of a toutured squirl.  Some of us LIKE tortured squirls.  In
> a metaphysical sense, of course.  Speaking of squirls, has anyone
> noticed how much geddy looks like one on the, um, Hold your Fire tape
> jacket?
> Alex rocks.
> Neil!  What the hell can you say about Neil?

  You're a trip!  I think we should start a new tradition.. get really
trashed and post to the NMS, that should make for some interesting
interpretations of songs.

  And yeah.. Geddy Lee is sort of a cross between a tortured squirrel and
    Vincent on the show "Beauty and the Beast" !!"

>     By the way, those of you who listen to nothing but Rush are missing
> out on a lot of good music.  Take it from someone who did the same thing
> all the way through High School.  Beavercreek high school.  What a lousy
> name.  Anyway, there is a lot of music out there that is not the same as
> Rush that is JUST AS GOOD.  not the same.  not a replacement.  But GREAT
> STUFF.  Take Oingo Boingo  (i see the flames now)

  Those of us who listen to Rush nonstop are the wisest of us all for Rush
is the essence of musical purity in the universe. Ohhh... without Rush
the universe would collapse, the planets would decay in their orbits..
The universe would fall into utter chaos.. thou has't commithed heresy :-)

BTW: And as for Oingo Boingo..oh..nevermind.. they don't deserve any flames..

Later... (Vive Le RUSH!!)
( and my drunken sidekick - Mark)
A BTW: Its my birthday this week and my drunken sidekick's too!
  oh.. you don't have to wish us happy birthday or anything.. just send
    us some Rush CDs or something..

Yabba Dabba BTW: Incase you do want to wish us happy birthday or get ouro
  address so you can send packages, money, or your girlfriends.. We're
  sick of ours.. (sorry, but Hopkins women just DON'T CUT IT - among other
  things they don't do!)

Drunken Sidekick (Mark)

Scooby Dooby BTW: Yo! Nick!... What beer were you drinking? I'm a beast
	man myself although I lick, I mean like BUSH... The drunken butt
	chunk likes Pabst Blue Ribbon! F*CK Heineken!

VORQ: " So many things I think about
	When I look far away
	Things I know- Things I wonder
	Things I'd like to say"


Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 03:03:51 -0500
From: brian frank 
Subject: T.C. Broonsey

This is my first posting, so pleez forgive any mistakes i make...
What's the connection with T.C. Broonsey?  If I'm not mistakin' at the
beginning of Trees (or maybe Broon's Bane) Geddy mentions T.C. Broonsey...
This is on ESL.  What's the deal? Who is this guy?

[ T.C Broonsey is Terry Brown.  This is in the FAQL.             :rush-mgr ]

Until next time,


Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 13:15:07 -0400
From: Michael S Savett 

Thought that would get your attention! First, to set this up...a local
rock station is planning a "Strawberry Field" in Fairmount Park in
Philadelphia sponsord by listener contributions. Friday afternoon,
one DJ was talking live to the Gedster (I didn't hear it, but I was told
this story!), asking him about this park thing. Afterward, Ged was asked
about the new album and he said they are winding it down and it should
be released in August. So there!

Hope I am the bearer of good tidings for y'all!!!



Date: 	Sat, 20 Apr 1991 20:42:00 -0230
From: Patrick Ryan 
Subject: 04/19/91 - The National Midnight Star #220 ** Special Edition **

Please remove me from this mailing list.


Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 18:19:16 PDT
From: djabson@UCSD.EDU (The God of Balance)
Subject: Marillion

	I know this isn't Rush related but it's close.  I just bought my
first Marillion album, Misplaced Childhood.  I like it a lot and I was
wondering if any of you Marillion fans out there could give me a little
info on the band such as when they started, how many albums they have,
which albums are worth buying, etc.  Please send mail to me, not to the
NMS. Send mail to
Thanx a million (Marillion?).



Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 21:53:23 EDT
From: Mike Borella 
Subject: Progressive Rock Mailing List

I must apologize for the misunderstandings that the recent posting of the
formation of a Progressive Rock mailing list has caused.  George Grinch and
I decided to direct all the people who wrote us to the existing list soon
after we posted our notices.

I sent the notice to many band lists.  For the Rush list I sent the notice to
the administrative address so that the Rush-Mgr could decide if he wanted
the notice in the newsletter.  When it didn't appear after a week, I decided
that it probably got lost in the shuffle, so I didn't write to cancel its
posting.  I was surprised to see it show up when it did, and unfortunately
was out of town at that time, so I didn't have a chance to explain then.

[ It's partially my fault for waiting so long to post it.  Things have a
  way of getting backed up...                                   :rush-mgr ]

As you probably know by now, the list "Gibraltar" is run my Michael Lamour
from the:  address.

I've become an avid reader, and I highly recommend it to anyone who would
like to learn more about progressive rock.

-Mike Borella


Date: Sun, 21 Apr 91 12:31:03 EDT
From: (Tony Mancill)
Subject: Ayn Rand

     Speaking of Objectivism, if you would really like to know
more about what's going through Neil's head, read "ANTHEM" by
Ayn Rand.  It's very short, only about 90 pages or so, and it is
easy to see that the song clearly comes from the book.  (It's on
Fly By Night for any of you younger Rush heads.)  Aside from the
fact that Anthem has great lyrics, I think that it is one of the
first really signature Rush tunes.  (Bytor and the Snow Dog
might give exception to this...)  We're really talking about
some teeth-gritting metal here, way back in the early 70's.

[ Yes, Rand had a lot of influence on Neil in the early days, but that
  was also over 15 years ago.  His musical direction is influenced by
  much more over the years ... Road and Track for one!  :-)    :rush-mgr ]

     For another interesting lyrical Rush allusion, read "Cry,
The Beloved Country"  (I'm sorry, the author's name slips my
mind right now.) for another idea about what "Absolom! Absolom!"
means at the end of Distant Early Warning.  (Besides, of course,
the obvious Biblical and Faulkner references.)

"And those who push us down that they might climb...
 Can any killer be worth more than his crime?" - Rush


Date:    Mon, 22 Apr 91 00:56 EDT
From: "Malzor" 
Subject: Eraser Head

The day the list didn't make it out I mentioned something about Eraser Head.
Anyone notice the poster in Chronicles during Limelight?  Pretty cool,
especially considering the boys recognized the movie as being cool so soon
after its release.  L8'r


Date:    Mon, 22 Apr 1991 10:03:25 EDT
From: RH2@JAGUAR.UCS.UOFS.EDU (Rebel, Runner, Restless young Romantic)
Subject: the robert plant school of diction


	rather than torment myself unnecessarily, does anyone know
	what geddy is saying/chanting/singing during 'la villa'
        on asoh??
	or is this another enigma like the missing matter in the universe?

[ I know on ESL it's transcribed as (something like) "Patty-cake patty-cake,
  baby needs a new pair of shoes."  Seriously.                    :rush-mgr ]

	oh, and i must agree with nick(#219) that alex's wardrobe is
	cosmically cool...



Date:    Mon, 22 Apr 91 10:17:23 EDT

>written on keyboards.  After _Signals_ we realized that we had
>gotten so keyboard-heavy that Alex was getting frustrated as a
>guitarist.  His role had been relegated to fundamental parts a lot of
>times because the keyboards were so dominant.  So with our latest
>album, _Grace Under Pressure_, we transposed the parts I wrote on
>keyboards for the the guitar, and I went back to the bass.  As a

The above, excerpted from Geddy's interview, is why I was
frustrated with Signals (like Alex, I see).  Then they came back
with Grace Under Pressure, which I love.  I recently rented
the video to ASOH, to see if I would like the post P/G music.
It seems that Rush went back to the heavy keyboard-oriented
concept, as the songs selected for this video indicate.

I'm looking to purchase some post P/G stuff.  Which ones would
people recommend, from a guitarists point of view!  I don't
want to pick up a Signals type release.  Thanks.

Mike Goodwin


Date:    Mon, 22 Apr 91 16:24 EDT
Subject: How to get Neil in your house real cheap!

Well, not exactly.

Ludwig, the drum company in Indiana, has two posters of Neil available for
a ridiculously low price.

One is from the Power Windows era, and the other has Neil with the Presto kit.

Here's the ordering information:

Order #   Poster         Cost
AV 8066   Power Windows  $2.00
AV 8070   Presto         $3.00

Send check/money order to:
PO Box 310
Elkhart IN 46516

The posters should take 2 weeks or so to arrive. They also have a large number
of posters of other drummers that the drummer-types out there might find in-
teresting. Ask for an order form if you're interested.

This might sound like a plug for Ludwig but I found it very interesting that
these posters were so inexpensive (as well as of such a good quality).

Bye for now...

Michael Sensor 
Penn State University

OBRQ: "Pleasure leaves a fingerprint as surely as mortal pain. In memory it
       resonates and echoes back again."


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