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          The National Midnight Star, Number 352

                Wednesday, 9 October 1991
Today's Topics:
                  Rush at the Cap Center
 barking dogs/sonar blip: have your cake and eat it too!
                ged thinks about being red
Angus, how're ye goin' t' get 58 MILLION kilts into th' van?
                  Lerxst has taste (IMO)
                   Picture this PLEASE
                       Opening Acts
                  LIVE UNDER PRESSURE...
                  Rush in Indianapolis!
                   Vital Signs mistake
             ROLL THE BONES MEMOR. explained
                  Through the Red Lenses
                Baseball and the "D" word
              Weird Al Peart strikes again!
                 Eric Johnson bashing...
                         YYZ tabs
                     RTB Tour and NMS
                    Gangster of Boats
                     Rush memorabilia

Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 14:00:22 edt
From: Donna Skarbo 

Hello Fellow RUSH Fans!
	Just wanted to relate a small incident.  I received my copy
of Bass Player yesterday.  I was idly paging through it and low and
behold on page 15 I see a full page ad for Roll the Bones!  I was just
a bit surprised!  It is the album cover printed in black and white with
"RUSH" and "Roll the Bones" in red.  It also says something about the
new album taking the RUSH sound to a new dimension or something like that.
(I don't have the magazine with me right now.)
	Well, I'm sure that just made everyone's day.  :-()  But
really, it is good to see that the guys are getting some type of
promotion.  It is esp. interesting that the ad was in a magazine that
reaches musicians, not just the general public.  Hum, maybe records
companies do have a clue every once in a while!
	Good day, eh?



Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 15:41:02 EDT
From: Chrystyna Lafferty 
Subject: PHILLY?????

Hey! Does anyone know out there when the crew is supposed to be touring at

Philly????? And when these tickets go on sale?? After seeing them 3rd row
at the spectrum for Presto.... I'm definitely not passing this tour up!

[ I believe it's 12/3, the day before the Cap. Ctr. show.  Haven't heard
  about tickets... Donna?  :-)                                 :rush-mgr ]


Date:     Tue, 8 Oct 91 16:29 EST
Subject:  Rush at the Cap Center

        Of late, I've noticed some people posting information about dates
that tickets go on sale for some shows.  Much to my dismay, however, I've
also noticed that these people are letting us know about sale dates
well  AFTER the date has passed. The main reason I'm on this list is to
get info about shows and the like, but if people just post comments about
how tix "for the whatever show went on sale 3 days ago, and I got my
front row seats"  then there's no point.  I'd rather hear about sale dates
in advance than have people let me (and others, I'm sure) know about
the fantastic seats they got.

        So, what I'm trying to say, is that if you know of an upcoming
date that tix go on sale, FILL US IN TOO!  (This doesn't apply to those
people that got info, and didn't have time to let us know.)

        Luckily I haven't missed the sale date for Wash DC tix, and
I hope I don't hear about it too late by someone in the NMS who
camped out or something and got first row!

        Sorry if this sounds a bit bitter, but I really don't want to
miss out on getting good seats for the Capital center show.

Nidhip Mehta
The Johns Hopkins University
Baltimore, MD

P.S. The only show around here that i know of is at the Cap Center. If
anyone knows about shows at the Baltimore Arena, Please let me and others

[ Last tour they hit Baltimore on the second leg, about 3-4 months after
  the Cap. Ctr. show.  They only filled 2/3 to 3/4 of the Baltimore Arena!
                                                                :rush-mgr ]

ORQ: "They leave you stranded in Dreamland"

(Get the hint?)


Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 19:08:21 EDT
From: (Gregg Jaeger)
Subject: barking dogs/sonar blip: have your cake and eat it too!

>Oh and about the dogs, please stop it.  It's a damn sonar blip, I was the
>first to say it and I will say it again, it ain't dogs but a blip.  And
>yes I do have a good stereo, I have listened to it 5 or 6 times on a
>Nakamichi 6 disc changer, 7 speaker sub woofer system in a lexus LS400,
>and believe me there is no other way to hear it!  Awesome!

Did anyone think about the possibility that it is _both_ a dog _and_
a sonar blip? (Pretty good way to get two ideas in one sound!) I know
that Geddy has used his PPG synths to _combine_ sounds in at several
instances previously, most notably ``Red Lenses,'' wherein he combined
broken glass with a plucked string (cf. Keyboard, Sept. '84). Combined
sounds also occur in ``Afterimage.''



Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 19:24:37 EDT
From: (Gregg Jaeger)
Subject: ged thinks about being red

A recent posting of >><< about
(I believe highly bogus) claims of obscenities at the end of the
studio recording of Red Lenses, should be of interest to those
who like probing the meanings of lyrics. Namely, that in concert
Geddy occasionally _adds_ lyrics to songs -- lyrics which help
to clarify the meanings of songs. This is of course different
behavior from _changing_ lyrics in order to make jokes. In these
cases Geddy leaves the original lyrics fully intact and adds lyrics
in places where there originally were none. The first instance of
this was his adding ``Old Man'' (whom I take to be Ronald Reagan)
toward the end of `New World Man.' This week I got a p/g tour boot
wherein Geddy sings very clearly at the end of `..Lenses' the words
``i think about/ i think about --  being red.''

BTW if anyone has a theory as to exactly why the I in `Red Lenses'
is printed in lower case, I'd be interested in hearing it...



Subject: Angus, how're ye goin' t' get 58 MILLION kilts into th' van?
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 91 19:44:25 EDT

Well, I've been watching most of this list go by in bemusement
recently, but I did want to say, that I'm going to try to go to both
the Albany and NYC shows -- I just need to know when tickets go on
sale.  Right now I'm probably going with two other friends.

If there are more people going to these shows, perhaps we could get
together for a beer or something before the concert.  I can also sleep
a couple of people on the couches in my house (if you're quiet).  :-)

						Derek L.
       derek@albnyvms.bitnet       <>
====}=---------------`  Fencers love to touch  '-----------------={====
               "Cinderella man... hang on to your plans..."


Date:         Tue, 08 Oct 91 18:50:56 CDT
From: The Necromancer 
Subject:      Lerxst has taste (IMO)

Well, some of you may have written in about Ged and Alex being on the
cover of the new Guitar Player magazine (November 1991).  Here's a part
of the interview called Aural Gratification on page 48 that has something
to do with this tour's opener.

GP: What do you listen to for enjoyment?
GL: Alex likes Zamfir a lot.
AL: I get most of my influences from Zamfir {starts whistling}.  I think
    Eric Johnson's _Ah_Via_Musicom_ is a great record.  Normally I'm not
    big on solo guitar records.  They're showcases for someone's playing
    ability--interesting to hear once or twice.  But I really love Eric's
    style and songwriting.

That's all I'll transcribe for now, but I'll say they have quite the sense
of humor, eh?                Craig Rindy know.


Date: 	Tue, 8 Oct 1991 22:08:23 -0230
From: John Palfrey 
Subject: Picture this PLEASE

John Palfrey (that's me) writes:


> the permissionary set to allow getting that file.  As I would
> like to get the other rast files converted and then have those
> GIFs added to my already growing RUSH GIF collection!
> [ Umm, I thought all the rast files had been converted.  The 'rasttogif'
>   file is just a script which calls three other programs on the local
>   machine; it's not self-contained.  Getting it may not help you anyway.
>   If I have time I'll change the permissions, but don't hold your breath
>   unless you're running Ultrix 4.2 ...                         :rush-mgr ]

   I was wondering if our rush-mgr or whoever is responsible would convert
the following in the /incoming dir to GIF format.  Greatly appreitiated
as I want to add those to my RUSH picture collection.


John W. Palfrey

[ Any files in the /incoming directory are files I haven't gotten around
  to, or am waiting for final confirmation before moving them to the
  /images directory.  When I catch up on admin mail, I'll see about them.
  One thing, I need a descriptive file for them (like the CONTENTS file
  in /images) before I move them.  Contributers, please send mail when you
  have something, or put it in the file /incoming/CONTENTS (or whatever).
                                                                 :rush-mgr ]


Date:    Tue, 8 Oct 1991 19:55:12 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Opening Acts

   Hello all!  This is my first post to TNMS, but I would just like to comment
about the opening acts.  I am only fortunate to have seen Rush once, but the
opening act did not get booed off the stage.  I saw the Presto tour at
Reunion Arena, and Mr. Big put on a damn good show.  The fans responded well
to their talent.  Of course each person playing a solo got old, but the fans
were still real responsive.  Of course the roof almost blew up when Rush
finally did hit the stage, but they were civil during Mr. Big.  I also heard
from a friend of mine that before the AC/DC concert in Dallas, they were
playing Rush just to fill for time, and that the fans were extremely
responsive to that too.  Almost more than King's X that opened for AC/DC.
Oh well, just another tid bit of info to show that the support is still
there.  Anyone know any dates for the Southwest yet?  Primarily Dallas,
Houston, etc?  Hopefully it is during spring break so I can do the tour of
Texas and catch all of their shows...

  "It's that fool on television
   Getting paid to play the fool..."
	                 Big Money, Power Windows, (of course) RUSH!



Date:     Tue, 8 Oct 91 21:54 EST

Hi folx,
     In response to the person who asked about the LIVE UNDER PRESSURE cd
boot, I've had it for a few months... Actually, its not any new material.
Its really just the GUP TOUR video on a cd, with an exception of a song or
two (Something for Nothing)... Funny, but this cd boot, made by a company
called Metal Memory is ALMOST exactly the same as the TEMPLE OF SYRINX cd
boot, also of the GUP TOUR video, with a couple of songs switched around.
They're both produced in Italy, so its not a surprise they're alike (its
probably the same company). I have both of them. The sound quality is
quite exceptional, but remember, you're not getting anything new really...
     If your into cd boots, look for RUSHIAN ROULETTE cd. Its also from Metal
Memory, and is from the Pinktop Festival, 1979 (This has been previously
available in vinyl form, but still, its nice to have in cd form). The sound
quality is pretty good...
      On that note, has anyone spotted "RUSH - En Vogue" cd boot? No luck
for me in NYC on that. Anywaz...

George Papadopoulos


From: (Jeff Boerio)
Subject: Rush in Indianapolis!
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 21:15:17 EST

Just heard from Q-95 this afternoon.  Rush will be in Indianapolis on
Haloween night!!!!  Tickets go on sale *THIS* Saturday.  You can bet I'll
be up all night :) :)

     - Jeff
Jeff Boerio
Purdue University Computing Center:
Purdue University Engineering Computer Network:
Purdue University Dept. of Computer Science:


Date: Tue,  8 Oct 1991 23:29:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Michael Santore 
Subject: Vital Signs mistake

	I got a question...since everyone is analyzing the hell out of the
three whatevers in Dreamline (I personally don't think they're
dogs)...has anyone else noticed in Vital Signs:

	Everybody got the EVELATE from the norm....

What is the is very clear.  Is it just a screw up, is it on
purpose....Is there a word 'EVELATE' I couldn't find it anywhere.  Even
on some of the live stuff, Geddy appears to say EVELATE...
This has been bothering me for some time, so any comments would be
greatly appreciated....

Also- I do have the number to Atlantic records in NEW YORK.  They have a
list of ALL tour dates prior to Dec 16 (when the band goes on vacation).
 Anyone who is interested, feel free to email me at

20 more days until I get to see Rush, 8th row Geddy's side in Pittburgh!!

			Kickin' some gluteus max,
					John Santore

	"We break the surface tension with our wild kinetic dreams"
					-Rush, Grand Designs

John Santore (


Subject: Marillion
From: (Jade)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 91 21:18:21 PDT

Marillion Is an AWESOME group! That would be the Ultimate wet
dream-Marillion opening for rush! Me and my friend always wondered if
they ever opened for rush, since they thank them in their Fugazi credits.
I wish fish was still with them , though, but Steve Hogarth isn't that
bad. The lyrics aren't as great as they used to be, but they paint a good
picture. Fish is a lyrical genious.
So......Did I hear that Rush are going to Europe before they hit the west
coast!!!!! This can't be happening!!!! Noooooooo!



Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 00:25:28 CDT
From: Brian Lawrence Kirk 
Subject: Dreamline

    To finally set the record straight about this dog thing.  Once upon a
time someone created this tubular device that was bigger around on one end
than the other and had a cord hanging out of it.  When electronic keyboards
became more powerful, they began to include all sorts of nifty percussion
sounds on them.  They ran out of ideas for instuments to use, so they
sometimes included a sample of that tubular device I mentioned earlier.  If
you go to a music store and try out one of their more expensive keyboards that
happens to include this particular sample, I think that you will find that it
sounds incredibly similar to the three noises in Dreamline.  Incidentally,
the tubular thing was originally created to mimic a dog.

Sorry I don't have a RUSH quote, but I haven't been able to find the right
one yet.

 | This is true even for   | Brian Kirk             | All I ask is the chance |
 | large values of two.    | Rice University '94    | to *prove* that money   |
 |                         |  | won't make me happy.    |
     These are the opinions of no one, living or dead.


Date: 9 October 1991 04:01:52 CDT
From: "RUSH HEAD  " 
Subject: ROLL THE BONES MEMOR. explained

Hey Everyone.
Well, do to the number of responses for where to get Roll The Bones
memorabilia I have decided to post the answers in the digest.
The best way to get the items is through a collecting magazine such
as GOLDMINE MAG.---this magazine has a lot of people advertising various
rare and collectible items but only through mail order. This mag. can be
obtained at small record stores (not Musicland or chain stores) or by
writing to Goldmine
           700 E. STate Street
           Iola, Wi., 54990
or calling 715 445 2214 ext. 244   , I think the current price is about
$3.50 an issue and you can get a subscription.
Another way to get Memorabilia items is through Record Conventions
where people set up tables and sell their items. This is probably
the safest because you can actually "hold the item" in your hand to look
and examine it. You can also do a little bit of bargaining with them too.
Finally, you can find these items in small 2nd hand record stores because
it is sort of illegal to sell promo goods but the small stores don't really
care too much about it whereas w/ the Main Chain Stores like Musicland
if one store gets busted that can put the entire Chain in jeopardy.

I hope the above helps, if you need more info you can email me direct.

ps: Prices: The Scroll should go for about $20 - $25
            The Press kit about $20
            Cd singles about $8.00 each
            Poster: about $5.00 but i got mine for my Bday. :)
               thanks Rikerman!
so they are not too cheap but those are the ave. prices.
good luck on finding them.!!!
p                           p
-  "I was lined up for glory but the Bitnet:u24129@uicvm.bitnet    -
g   tickets sold out in advance.     Genie: P.Choy                 g
p   The way the big wheel spins."                                  p
-                                                  Patster         -
g                                                                  g


Date: 9 Oct 91 08:56:00 CDT
Subject: Through the Red Lenses

      ***** NEWS FLASH *****

    Here are the lyrics for Red Lenses after 'Not blue',

       4:03   Thinkin' about the overfed, the under rated
       4:12   I said I'm not red, red
       4:19   Thinkin' about what you said
       4:27   Think about it, thick thick red
       4:33   Emotion
       4:35   Thinkin' about what she said
       4:37   Bit by Bit
       4:40   ogh!

     These times are approx. +/- 1 sec.
     Equipment used:Technics 8X oversampling 1 bit D/A
                    Sony 10 band EQ, vocal range increased
                    Sony MDR-CD999 Digital Headphones
                    Sony receiver (very low volume, with high
                         volume the music overrides vocals)

      Thought I would put my $.02 worth on this beaten dead horse.

| Robert Graves                |
| "SIGHT AND SOUND MASTER"                                                   |
| "We read about the exceptions, in the papers everyday" RUSH, Second Nature |


Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1991 10:17 EDT
From: Lewis A Bernstein 
Subject: Correction

	I know this doesn't belong here but, the address for the
	Yes mailing list is 'V111PBXX@UBVMSC.CC.BUFFALO.EDU' and not
	v111pbx.....etc. as mentioned in the previous post.  I am not
	a member, just a Buffalo student who recognized this as an
	invalid ID and checked it out.....   Thanks

ORQ: 'Ten bucks is ten bucks.....'  Geddy Lee


Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 10:31 EDT
Subject: Baseball and the "D" word

I'd like to start off by addressing all of you people who keep talking about
the World Series interfering with the Tour.  WAKE UP...How long do you think
the Series lasts anyway?  The whole thing playoffs and all will be rapped up
by the 23rd or 24th of October, even if it goes 7 games.  The Blues Jays sre
not going to make it past the Twins anyway and even if they did the final 2
games would be here in Pittsburgh because we all know the Pirates are going to
kick the shit out of the Braves.

[ I guess I didn't use enough smiley's in my original comment.  To quote
  a favorite actor, "That's a joke, son!"    :-)                :rush-mgr ]

Secondly, I would like to apologize for starting this whole controversy over
the sound in "Dreamline".  I never intended it to flame up like this.  It does
not matter what kind of stereo you have, or if you paid $4000 for a pair of
headphones, it is a matter of perception.  Please, I'm sick of hearing how
wrong I was, or even that I was correct.  It was just one person's opinion.

Thank You!! and Amen!!

OBQ:  "In the constellation of Cygnus
       There is a mysterious, invisible force
       The black hole
       Of Cygnus X-1"

Kevin Ryan Kirwan
University of Pittsburgh
Home of the 12th ranked, undefeated Pitt Panthers

If anyone from Notre Dame is reading this, I'll be the guy carrying the REAL
big bass drum in the Pitt band!!


Date: 	Wed, 9 Oct 1991 08:41:36 PDT
Subject: Weird Al Peart strikes again!

Well, here's my contribution to the RTB parody parody of the last
holdout-- Neurotica.

Hope you like it...


Music by Lee and Lifeson
Words by Rat

I just don't get it
Where it is...Well, I'm not really sure.
I sit here, my test book before me
And my mind is insecure.

The world's full of places - my head hits the wall.
Each dot is a city - this test wants to know them all.
The teacher's a sadist, the subject's a bore
Geography's useless, and I'm gonna snore
Right through it...
Yeah, I snored right through it.

Lithuania - Romania
It's just Albania - Tasmania
It's Macedonia - Estonia
It's just Siberia - Liberia

I just don't get it
Maybe I should ask myself why...
I shouldn't have cut all those classes
Do I get extra credit if I cry?

Everest's a mountain, Loch Ness is a lake.
But that's all I know, and I've run out of time to fake.
This whole thing's a hassle, this test is a pain.
I sit here and watch as my grade trickles down the drain...
Yeah, it's down the drain.

I sit in my chair with my hands in my hair
All my knowledge is leaving me.
Sweat on my brow, where the hell is Moscow?
And my mind is deceiving me.
The world is a mess, gonna fail the test
And my prof'll be peeved at me...

Assyria - Algeria
It's just Namibia - Bohemia
It's Ethiopia - Australia
It's just Sumeria - Bavaria...


Subject: Eric Johnson bashing...
Date: Wed Oct 09 11:41:09 PDT 1991

has got to go!!!  I've been getting pretty tired of reading all the 
recommendations of
skipping out on EJ,  or that you "shouldn't get too excited" about seeing 
EJ open for Rush.
 I sort of expected more from Rush fans, being the superior musical 
intellects that we are.
 I saw EJ already in a small club here in little ol' Charlotte, NC this 
summer and as a
fellow musician and music lover, I would have to say that EJ's playing was 
nothing short of

If your a fan of meaningful music, or anyone who won't mind that for 45 
minutes, there will
be no lasers or movie screens, then you'll dig EJ-I promise!!!  Please 
mail any other
questions to  Thanx guys!  Oh, has anyone 
heard when the
Boyz make it too the southeastern area??  Talk tu me.

Scott Newell
Microsoft Windows Technical Support
Charlotte, NC


From: (Patrick M. Ryan)
Subject: YYZ tabs
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 13:27:57 EDT

Just a little note to let the guitarists out there know that I
finished transcribing the tabs to YYZ and have sent them along to
Frank (, our able tab manager.  I also have the YYZ
bass tabs but have not yet transcribed them.  If anyone *really* wants
the guitar tabs right now, send me mail and I'll get them to you.

Oh yea, and if anyone hears when tix go on sale for the 12/4 show
at the Capital Center, please post immediately!

[ You know it, dude!  :-)                                 :rush-mgr ]


                                                                patrick ryan
                                                       oceans and ice branch
                                    nasa / stx / goddard space flight center


Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 15:11:12 -0400
From: jlang (~ Rush Fanatic ~)
Subject: RTB Tour and NMS

The tour is almost upon us and knowing that lots of Rush fans will be
going to pretty much the same shows in their respective areas, I've
thought about compiling a list of "Who's going where and when.." concert
for members of the MNS.  I don't know if this is a good idea or not but
here's what I propose:

1.  If you have a ticket to a Rush concert, email me with:
    a) Your name
    b) The date of the concert (listed on your ticket) and city.

2.  That's it!  If you want to meet other fellow NMS subscribers who will be
    going to the same show as you, I will email you the list of names of
    people who will be at your show.

I figured this would be a great way to meet some of the other people on
the list that you would probably otherwise never meet!  So hurry and
send me in your ticket info and let's all Rock.



Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 09:16:30 HST
From: hinano@ahi.pbrc.Hawaii.Edu (Hinano Akaka)
Subject: Gangster of Boats

Good day.

I don't recall if anyone's mentioned this before or anything but I
happened to notice in the liner notes of "Hold Your Fire" the
now-infamous "Gangster of Boats".  It says nothing about Part "X",
just simply "Gangster of Boats".  I haven't looked at any albums past
HYF, but I just thought it would make for interesting trivia.  Perhaps
a question for the Prattster via the Backstage Club?

puanani akaka


Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 13:16:27 -0700
From: Felix Ling 
Subject: Rush memorabilia

Hiya!  I was wondering if any of you knew any good places to get Rush
memorabilia, (e.g. patches, t-shirts, posters, pins, headbands, etc.).

[ See the post above mentioning memorabelia...               :rush-mgr ]

The FAQL mentions the Rush Backstage Club, but nothing else.  Anybody
know how their selection and service is like?

On another rather unrelated note, does anybody know where I could find
guitar music for 'Time Stand Still'?  The only music I've seen is the piano
music from _A Show of Hands_, but like most piano transcriptions, it doubles
the vocal line in the right hand and probably leaves out a lot of other parts
as a result.  Much appreciated!

Felix Ling


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