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          The National Midnight Star, Number 394

                Wednesday, 4 December 1991
Today's Topics:
         Neil's comments on Rockline last night.
                    Rockline and Rush
                       Coburn sucks
                     Rockline - Help!
            Why don't people say "SPOILER"???
                      it's a rig...
                      Rockline tape?
                need a ride to Worcester!
                     Neil's last name
    MC Geddy Lee / Bill Graham may still screw RUSH!!
                   RTB without the rap!
             Freewill lyric sheet strangeness
              "In The Bleachers" comic strip
            The Great Roll The Bones Campaign
                Missed Rockline - help!

From: Editor, The National Midnight Star 
Subject: Administrivia

Well, it looks like the NMS is uninterrupted after all!  I made the
Philly show w/no trouble, and thanks to Donna/Michael, I had pretty
decent floor seats, right next to the soundboard.  I have to agree 
with most posters, I wasn't impressed with Vinnie, but that's personal
opinion.  Tonight it's Largo!

A quick point:  if you're going to post mentioning the content of a
show from the current tour, PLEASE put the word SPOILER in your subject
line.  People keep asking, but people apparently keep ignoring...  let's
work and play well together, people...

Administrative mail is all caught up, so if you sent something and didn't
get a reply when you expected one, mail me again.  Omissions happen some-
times, but they're not intentional.



Date: Tue, 3 Dec 91 10:59:10 EST
From: (Alex Harden)
Subject: Neil's comments on Rockline last night.

Well, for one thing, we now know *officially* that [MC] Geddy is the RTB
rapper.  Thanks, Neil!  8)

I like the way Neil handled himself...from the non-Modern Drummer articles and
interviews that he is in he seems kind of non-eager to talk sometimes.  I
thought he would correct Bob Coburn instantly when Bob said "Neil PERT of
Rush", but Bob made the snappy comment "most of the rock world knows you as
Neil Pert, but I am now informed that you go by [phonetic spelling] PEERT."
To which Neil replied, "I'll answer to either."  From then on I knew he would
be cool for the interview, which was enjoyable to listen to, even if it didn't
break too much ground.

Alex Harden \ \ v409epk3@ubvms.bitnet
State University of New York at Buffalo - Computer Science
"I was lined up for glory, but the tickets sold out in advance." - Rush


From: mazzolav@dw0 (The Mayor)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1991 11:27:57 EST

      The RTB rapper from what I heard is Geddy Lee.
I got this from the newsgroup  This
came as a shock to me.  Also you does the rap(if you want
to call it that) on You Bet Your Life.

The Mayor


Date: Tue, 3 Dec 91 12:02:44 EST
Subject: Rockline and Rush

Well, I think all of us Rush funs were enlightened by Mr. Neil Peart's
wonderful words on Rockline last night.  Rockline's host sure kissed his
ass at the end in hopes that he would come back.  Neil is definitely the
greatest rock drummer that ever lived, and he is also one of the most
intelligent people in the limelight.  Neil was very nice to the people
who called in and talked one-on-one with them.  That was surprising,
since Neil usually is quite timid before his fans and doesn't like to
be considered a hero or idol.  Some people who may have thought that he
is arrogant probably have a very different impression now.  He carried
himself humbly, yet with a touch of nobility and prowess.  I nominate
Neil as the next Prime Minister of Canada.


From: Erik 
Subject: Coburn sucks
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 91 12:16:26 MST

How many times did he say "Neil Pert" on the air before he finally asked Neil
how it is finally said?



Date: Tue, 3 Dec 91 13:40:56 -0600
From: (George Walker)
Subject: Congrats!

	Congratulations to Amy Moseley on her chance to talk with Neil
on Rockline (and for asking a *real* question! ;-)  Way to go!

			a fellow Austinite...


Date: Tue, 3 Dec 91 13:49:25 -0600
From: Mark Shaw 
Subject: Rockline - Help!

I unfortunately was distracted last night and didn't get to listen to
Rockline (my fiancee got in a car accident).  Can anyone out there who
did please transcribe it for me?  Or, better yet, is there any way some-
one who taped it could send me a copy of the tape - of course I will pay
for the blank and the postage.  Please help - I would really like to
know what was said (and played).

|  Mark Shaw at U of ILLINOIS           | |^^^^^^|                          |
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Date: Tue, 3 Dec 91 14:16:08 PST
From: changed%robotics.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Chang... Ed Chang.)
Subject: Why don't people say "SPOILER"???

I'm upset about the number of people who post articles about shows
they've seen, listing songs played and otherwise spoiling the show
for those of us who haven't seen it yet.  Believe it or not, some
of us DON'T WANT TO KNOW what will be played in advance at the show.
If you insist on talking about the songs that are played, please
put the word "SPOILER" in the header to warn us in advance.


OPBQ: "Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya.
       You posted a spoiler.
       Prepare to fry."

ORQ: " metal and oil"


Date: Tue, 3 Dec 91 18:26:35 EST
From: (Gregg Jaeger)
Subject: it's a rig...

>On to other subjects (long post, I know...):
>-- "It's a parralax, you dig?
>    You move around--small gets big, it's a rig."
>Based on what I learned in Physics I last year  (we haven't gotten
>to optics yet in AP Physics this year) I thought that parralax
>was the effect when if you're moving, then objects near you
>appear to move by quicker than objects further away.  What does
>this have to do with "small gets big"?

The idea of the metaphor is to capture something of the subjectivity of
life experiences. As one moves through life small events may seem like
big events as the happen. Compare this with the lines ``Sometimes our big
splashes/ Are just ripples in the pool'' from `Emotion Detector.' Though
in this case I think Neil is warning one to be cautious about letting
certain (perhaps isolated) experiences give one a unrealistic view of
life by virtue of the psychological impact they might have at the
moment. In other words he's saying that one should strive for objectivity
when evaluating life based on personal experience, because the effect
of certain experiences might be, as it were, `rigged' (the way tricks
are rigged).


Gregg Jaeger    (             ``Hold Your Fire''
Dept(s). of Physics (and Philosophy)                  ______/|/|
590 Commonwealth Ave.                                   (_) \|\|
Boston University, Boston MA 02215                                 Trystero?


Subject: Rockline tape?
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 91 18:48:46 EST

Hi everyone --

	Okay, I admit it.  I *FORGOT* that the Rockline interview was
on.  So, did any kind soul out there happen to tape it?  I'd be happy
to pay the expenses of a blank tape and the postage to get it to me.

					- Erin Sasaki


Date: Tue, 3 Dec 91 19:50:38 EST
From: (Gregg Jaeger)
Subject: need a ride to Worcester!

Howdy Folks,

I was wondering if anyone in Boston headed for the Worcester show on 12/10
would be willing to give a fellow Rush fanatic and his fiancee a lift to
the show. Of course, I would be more than glad to pay expenses! My wallet
got stolen recently and I have no driving license with which to rent a car
(if I could afford one! Rush t-shirts are also necessary expenses!). So
if you wouldn't mind giving a couple of Rush fans a lift, I can pay expenses
and provide lots of RUSH conversation along the way!

Thanks! Gregg (


Date: Tue, 3 Dec 91 21:20:57 -0500
From: "Dylan Kaufman" 
Subject: Neil's last name

> Neil's last name is pronounced 'Pear'-t, as in the fruit, not Pirt
> (with a short e).

Actually, 'pear' is pronounced like 'pair', 'Peart' is more of a
'Peer-t'.  At least, that's the way it sounded to me.

-<>Dylan<>-                     MA EMT-M, CA EMT-1A, BEMCo 107
Dylan Kaufman 			Major in Computer Science	Brandeis University, Waltham, MA
------<< Support your local Emergency Medical Services >>-------
One can never have too much RAM or too much disk space.
			-- Ancient American Proverb, c. 1980


Date: Tue,  3 Dec 91 20:56:20 EST
From: "A Lerxst in Wonderland" 

Hello.  I didn't recieve any responses from my last post, so I'll try it again.
If anyone out there has a bootleg of the RTB show, please e-mail me directly.
I know someone out there was talking about having a tape earlier, but I didn't
write it down.  I'll send a tape and pay or whatever.  I also have a King
Buscuit tape I'd be willing to trade from the p/g tour if you don't have that.



Date: Tue, 3 Dec 91 22:18:46 -0500
From: Macon N. Pegram 

Attn all Rushians!

I have recently obtained a number of copies of the first demo by
Rhode Island's Anthem called 'Lost Within the Times'. It has 10
excellent songs which show a strong Rush influence combined with
perhaps a tounch of REO Speedwagon's balladry. I think all Rush
fans would find this display of strong melodies and instrumental
ability of interest. The tape is $3 ($4 for overseas) and be
gotten by writing to -
George Grinch, 4102 Wythe Ave, Richmond, VA 23221 (USA)
any questions can be sent to
Write soon as my supply is limited.


Subject: MC Geddy Lee / Bill Graham may still screw RUSH!!
From: (Vindicator)
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 91 16:41:51 PST

First of all, I'm glad the rapper is ged!  Pretty cool, like I said, on
the computer it sounds like him when you increase the pitch.


        In the Rockline broadcast when mentioning tour dates
        they skipped over the bay area!  Why?  Because they are
        not final!  I called KRQR after the show and was told
        that there is some tension between  Rush and Bill Graham
        Presents.  Remember how Rush did not come to the BA for
        the HYF tour, well the same may happen here.

        I talked to a air for brains secretary at BGP and she
        said that they are not doing anything wuth rush and she
        has not heard of any concert (probiblyu the tour or band
        for that matter)  But a friend of mine talked to someone
        negotiating the thing, and they said that they are still
        trying to work it out and that nothing is final so it
        hasn't been announced.

        If we want to see Rush in the bay area let's give BGP
        a call and tell them how much it means to us, and that
        they should stop at nothing to get them,  and have no
        damn general admission, because that's what Bill would
        have wanted, and we all know he was a money hungry bastard!

        Bill Graham Presents  -  415 - 541 - 0800
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

        And call information and get the number to SRO/Anthem
        and complain to them if you want to also.

        I'll put it this way!  There is a chance, ever so slight
        that the boys will not be in the bay area this time around
        and we can't live with such a chance, every damn call counts
        Please call!!!!  And if anyone hears anything else let us all


        "We have to remember the oracle's words, from Nike, the
         Greek goddess of victory and lumpy athletic shoes:
         Just do it.  No excuses."
                                        -Neil Peart


From: (Brian Grave)
Subject: RTB without the rap!
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 0:52:56 CST

Hi all.

This morning I was surprised and overjoyed to hear RTB come rolling out my
speakers from the radio.  They almost never play Rush in the frozen northland
of Duluth, MN.  Anyway, as I sat enjoying the music I noticed the strangest
thing...  they cut out the rap section of the song... completely!  They just
skipped to the end of the song.

Has anyone ever heard of this happening?  I'm tempted to call them up and ask
them why the hell they did it.

Have a day.   :-|
Brian Grave

"Why is the alphabet in that order?  Is it because of that song?"
				- Steven Wright


Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 02:06:39 CST
From: (Robert Clark)
Subject: Rockline.

Since this wonderful town of Peoria, IL has a terribly wonderful
radio station that is wonderful in the fact that it doesn't carry
Rockline, is anyone even considering transcribing it for our viewing

-Rob Clark


Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 3:21:34 PST
From: William Stocker 
Subject: Freewill lyric sheet strangeness

In the NMS #393, nam2@po.CWRU.Edu (Nicholas A. Mascari) states:

> Also, I discovered something weird. For a while my sig included the
> quote " If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
> from Freewill.
>  Then, someone emails me saying that my quote is incorrect. So I
> looked in my fraternity brothers PeW cd sleeve for the lyrics and
> sure enough, I had it wrong.
> In the cd sleeve it says,"If you still choose not to decide, you
> haven't made a choice."
> Well, I thought, so I was wrong. And I changed my sig(see below).
> But then, on my way home for Thanksgiving, I had my ESL tape playing
> and in Freewill on that album, Geddy distinctly says,"If you
> choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." !!!!
> So I was right!!  I dont have PeW yet, and I dont listen to my
> Chronicles cd too much. I usually listen to ESL quite often, so that
> is why I picked the alternate lyric.
> Just a little tidbit. I wonder why he switched it like that??

I noticed this too.
In the Canadian version of the album and CD, the lyric sheet says:
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
In the U.S. version of the album and CD, the lyric sheet says:
"If you choose not to decide, you cannot have made a choice."

It's clear that if you listen to any recorded version of the song
(live or studio) that the Canadian version is correct.

Also, the Canadian version of the album/CD does not have the
"Dewey defeats Truman" headline whited out.


P.S. Enough Crue-bashing!  Comparing Rush and Motley Crue is
pointless, since they have such vastly different approaches.
However,maybe the Crue could teach Rush to loosen up a little,
and Rush could teach the Motleys about musicianship 8-)


Subject: "In The Bleachers" comic strip
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 10:48:13 CST
From: (T.J. Higgins)

On the sports page of our local paper is a comic called "In The
Bleachers."  This comic, drawn by someone named Moore, is similar to
"The Far Side," except that it always has a sports theme.  The 12/2/91
issue may or may not indicate that the author is a Rush fan.

Picture two basketball teams standing around on the court.  Each
player on each team is a skeleton wearing a uniform.  The uniforms of
the teams are identical.  The team captains are playing the
scissors-paper-rock game to determine which team must take off their
shirts.  The caption under the picture is:  "Ha!  Rock smashes
scissors.  OK, we'll take out the ball... oh yeah, and we're 'shirts,'
you guys are 'bones.'"

Coincidence?  I think not...
T.J. Higgins    205-730-7922  |    (Internet)
Mapping Sciences Division     |  uunet!ingr!higgins  (uucp)
Intergraph Corp.  M/S IW17A6  Huntsville, Alabama, U.S.A.  35894-0001


Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 12:06:40 EST
Subject: The Great Roll The Bones Campaign

Well, we've all been talking about a massive dial-in campaign to get the
Roll The Bones video on eMpTyV's top requests of the day, so let's do it.
How about everyone calling in during the Dial MTV hours of the week of Dec.
9-13?  We need to get everyone involved to truly send a message to the
programmers at eMpTyV.  I have only seen portions of the RTB video on two
occasions, and I'm not about to sit around waiting for it when I know that
it will probably never appear again -- unless we do something about it.  So,
from Dec. 9-13, everyone call in at 1-800-Dial-MTV during the Pauly Shore
show, which airs between 4 and 6 I believe.  Roll the Bones and roll some


Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1991 13:33 EDT

Hello.  Being a (well, for the most part) new listener
to RUSH, I have not heard every release by the trio, so
I am curious...

During the closing credits of the P/G CONCERT VIDEO, and
just before The Big Money music video begins, there is
music being played.  I realize that this may be a session
by the three and not a true release, but I am uncertain.

Could someone please shed some light and tell me if this
is a jam session, or, if it is a true song, the title of
the tune and the cd on which I can find it?

Thanks in advance.



From: David Arnold 
Subject: Missed Rockline - help!

Hi all,

In the hustle and rush [sic] of the past few days, I missed the Rockline 
show with Neil.  :-(  If any kind soul is interested in making a copy for
me, could you drop me a line?  I can send a blank tape, or maybe one with
something on it.  ;-)



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