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          The National Midnight Star, Number 429

                Wednesday, 5 February 1992
Today's Topics:
                      Shirts n stuff
            HELP there's no show in Baltimore
                Beware of CD Connection!!
                 List of Primus' albums.
                   T-shirts - confusion
                The Multiple T-Shirt Thing
                  Random stuff, again...
                         NMS #428
                      RushFans (tm)
                       NMS T-Shirts
          SPOILER! -- Oakland review -- SPOILER!
                  Rush donates to AmFAR
   Tony's poll results III (VOTE IF YOU HAVEN'T YET!!!)
                  headlines for t-shirt
                Original RUSH Commercials
                         DEM T'S
                    Re: IN THE END...
                     Rush on MTV news
                       T-Shirt idea
         02/04/92 - The National Midnight Star #4
                   Rush Seattle Show!!!
                   T-Shirt Confusion!!
                   Shirts, Boots, etc.
                        live songs
                       Seattle, WA

From: Editor, The National Midnight Star 
Subject: Administrivia

By the time this goes out tonight, we should have another 50 or so members
added to the list.  I'm chewing through the backed-up mail as fast as my
little fingers can type!

Once again, please let me say (echoing several people's feelings) that the
people doing the T-shirts are coordinating their efforts!  I've counted
at least three people who've mentioned that they are willing to do it, and
one person even quoted prices!  You might make it open for ideas for a week
or two, then compile the best into a couple of designs, or just go for one.
Any pictures could be converted to GIF and uploaded for people to peruse
in advance of purchase.  Send me mail at the admin address if you want me
to post news about anything like this.



Date: Tue, 4 Feb 92 19:23:43 -0500
From: ba080@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jim B. Stevenson)
Subject: Shirts n stuff

Hello again.

	I'm not sure anymore of who all I've sent mail to for NMS
shirts.  Just to let them all know, I'm definately interested in
one, or two, or three.  Just as long as they don't shrink as much
as the black tour shirts designed by Pushead.

	As usual, anyone who's got a bootleg of ANY of the RTB
shows, please lemme know!  I've also seen talk of Caress of Steel
boots.  Anyone owning one, or maybe a boot of the 2112 tour, again
lemme know.  I'll provide the postage, blank tape(s), and a little
bit of trouble $$.  Tanx!  Keep flying in the night with grace,
under pressure!

					Jim Stevenson


From: telxon!teleng!dank@uunet.UU.NET (Dan Kelley)
Subject: HELP there's no show in Baltimore
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 92 17:40:43 EST

Uhmmm, somebody mentioned a poor showing at Baltimore on the Presto Tour.
>From all the complaints I have read about being no Baltimore show, sounds
like we all could have filled the place!

Anyhow, I was planning on taking a class on Sys Admin in Baltimore the
week of March 8th (what timing) but since there is no show there on the
11th, how's about any confirmation on the 3/8 show in Hampton, VA or the 3/10
show in Richmond, VA that someone listed in the rtb.tour.dates on syrinx?
Anyone?!?  All you Marylanders and/or Virginians should have some info I would
hope.  Are these places far from Baltimore?  Please email direct as I need to
make arrangements for my class now (maybe I can go elasewhere if Rush goes
elsewhere :-).

[ It's about 2 1/2 to 3 hours from Baltimore to Richmond, depending upon
  how low you tend to fly.  :-)  The Richmond show is already on sale, FYI.
                                                                   :rush-mgr ]

Thanks in advance,

      Dan Kelley         ()   ===== ===== =   = =    ////  =  =
                         ()     =   ===   =    =   //////  == =
 ...!uunet!telxon!dank   ()     =   ===== ===== =  //////  = ==   Corp. ()                        ////           Akron, OH


Date: Tue, 4 Feb 92 17:12 EST
Subject: Rush

	Haven't been listened to Rush since I was a teenager,
	and only recently picked up a copy of RTB after discovering
	this newsletter.

	All I can say is glad to be back!!  See you at Nassau in March.

"Bababooey, Bababooey"  Gary "Bababooey" Delabate
"Ratings and Lesibans"  Howard Stern


Date: Tue, 4 Feb 92 17:55:55 MST
From: (John A. Turner)
Subject: Beware of CD Connection!!

Steve Sneed posted some stuff about CD Connection in Germany as a
source of RUSH boots in the last NMS (428).  I thought I should
warn everyone about them.

Anil Prasad posted the following warning to the Genesis mailing list.

|John A. Turner         |"Music is the cup which holds the wine of silence;|
|Los Alamos Natl. Lab.  |  sound is that cup, but empty;                   |
|e-mail:|    noise is that cup, but broken."               |
|                       |                        - Robert Fripp            |

----- Begin Included Message -----

From: (Anil Prasad)
Subject: BEWARE OF CD CONNECTION and other stuff...
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 91 0:06:10 EST

Scott mentioned genesis boots from CD Connection in germany...

******************DO NOT**************** ORDER FROM THIS FIRM!!!

I have been ripped off for $92.00 American dollars by them. I ordered
a number of CD's from them in *JULY* and have yet to receive them.
I've written them *THREE* times and have even attempted to phone them
four times to no avail. They *HAVE* cashed my money order, so I know
they got it. They are a complete SCAM company. I've had 3-4
other friends order from them and only *ONE* got his merchandise.

((&$^&*@#$^& Sorry... I'm trying to avoid exploding in profanity

----- End Included Message -----

[ It may not be the company per se, it may be customs.  I've read where
  if they know it's bootlegs in an incoming package, they'll snag it, and
  you're out $$.  It would figure they'd have a list of bootleg import firms
  and snag anything from that address... Those Germans are notorious for
  boots; I've seen several addresses for places there selling boots, 
  including the message which mentioned customs snagging stuff.   :rush-mgr ]


From: (Atul Ahuja)
Subject: List of Primus' albums.
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 92 17:31:01 PST

Hi guys,

	Anybody aware of any other Primus albums except
	Suck On this, Sailing the seas of cheese and Frizzle Fry. ?

	And count me in for the T-shirt, its a great idea.
	Why not have all the Rush album covers on the back of the shirt ?
	Should be cool huh, right from RUSH to RTB, in chronological order.
	Or it might be a better idea just to have about half of them,
	so that we can have pictures of the boyz too.

	I think RTB was the best cover to date, any other opinions about
-- 	that ?

	Keep up the great work on the T-shirt front, looking forward
	to wearing it soon.



Date: Tue, 4 Feb 92 17:47:46 PST
From: Ralph.Torres@Corp.Sun.COM (Ralph Torres)
Subject: T-shirts - confusion

I would like a t-shirt, but am not committing to any one person
out there. Until the three parties involved sort things out and
there becomes an "official TNMS shirt" there is going to be a
strong reluctance on the part of the general populace.

I vote for the tabloid look. In particular, Hans Gruenig's ideas
from TNMS #428. I also like the names on the back idea. How about
email addresses?

Ever notice that some folks are getting all concerned over copyright
stuff and others are begging for Bootlegs? Just an observation, not
a commentary...

Ralph "Multi-PROCESSING! Sun MP600-style...."
ORQ: We make our own designs, but fortune has to make that frame.


Date: Tue, 4 Feb 92 19:52 CST
From: (JW Smith)
Subject: The Multiple T-Shirt Thing

Uh.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Cheryl the graphic artist going
to take suggestions and do the t-shirt design, then send it to the guy
with the production facilities?  That setup made sense to me....

Let's get a unified effort going here, people, eh?

"armchair rocket scientist graffiti existentialist
 deconstruction primitive performance photo-realist"


Date: Tue,  4 Feb 92 21:06:56 EST
Subject: Random stuff, again...

Just to add my mostly irrelevant facts to a few questions:

	About ads:  well, Neil advertises for Zildjian (oh God, I know I
misspelled that) and Promark sticks, Alex and Geddy both endorse GK amps
and related equipment, Alex's name has been on list-type ads for Martin
or Gibson acoustics (not sure which), and Geddy had a long ad campaign
for his string company (Rotosound?)  And, of course, Neil endorses Schwinn...

	My vote for a cool bass line:  the fills in the last verse of "Time
Stand Still"

	There is indeed a new Queen album coming out.  The tentative title
is _The Show Must Go On_, and the single of the same name has been out
on radio for a month or so.

	Those of you in the Boston area, who like Rush/Yes/ELP/Genesis,
there's a Berklee band called Raymaker (_not_ The Rainmakers) with a CD
in the local section at Tower.  The bass player is phenomenal...(flame
shields up) he's better than Geddy, IMO.  Check them CD,
interesting songs.  FYI their live closer is a 17-minute song (cool!)

						Thor Iverson

"What can this strange device be?"
"Yeah, Mom?"
"Put that's your mother's!"  --2112:  The Early Years


Date: Tue, 4 Feb 92 21:10:02 EST
From: jalhart@skidmore.EDU (Lerxst)
Subject: NMS #428

Did anyone catch the Day in Rock on Monday or various news clips on MTV on
Tuesday?  Well if you caught it you can go on to the next post, but if not
let me tell you all what are good old friend Kurt Loder had to say about
dem boyz.

Apparently Rush donated the proceeds from the second show in Oakland last wee
k to an Aids charity.  According to Kurt, the band and promoter Bill Graham
Presents donated $100,000 to AmFar which is the American Foundation for Aids
Research.  What makes the story interesting (besides the fact that Rush was
actually mentioned on MTV) is the fact that Rush is only the second rock/pop/
rap act to donate money to this important charity (second to Madonna).  In
addition, our man Kurt (I barely smile) Loder had a quote from drummer Neil
Peart (BTW Kurt, that's pronounced like the word Piert not like the shampoo!!)
which said that the band feels they have a responsibility to do something
like this because of the crises which is currently happening with the Aids

Well, in my opinion, this just goes to show what kind of people the these
guys really are.  Mind you this was not a Canadian charity but an American
charity and it is the first time in a long time I can remember Rush giving
money to an American charity and further, being recognized for it publically!

[ After the second show at the LA Forum, Rush and a local radio station
  both received an award for charity work they'd performed.  Apparently
  the band does a lot of charity work/contributing, but never lets it get
  out to the public.  Classy.                                   :rush-mgr ]

In response to the post about previous endorsements the guys have done, I have
a few GK ads which Alex did and a Roto Sound string ad which the Gedster did.
BTW, the Wal bass company only makes custom basses to order, so they don't ad-
vertise or I'm sure Ged would be endorsing.

In response to the RTB t-shirt having a Meadowlands date, it's wrong!!  I asked
Mike McGloughlin about that early on in the tour and he told me that they make
these shirts up long before the tour gets confirmed so there could be a mistake
or two.  As to why there will be no Meadowlands show, blame it on Ringling

Ken F.


Date: Tue, 4 Feb 92 23:52:32 EST
From: pmw3y@bodhi.cs.Virginia.EDU
Subject: RushFans (tm)

Brian E. Saunders  writes:
>Patrick Widener writes:
>> What with all the hoopla surrounding the recent guns-a-blazing
>> review some clown gave Rush in the blatant advertising gimmick
>> Sam Goody laughingly calls a magazine, I thought I'd check out
>> the latest issue of REQUEST.  It was some sort of "awards"
>> issue, and Rush actually got mentioned.
>> "Hard Rock Group with the thinnest-skinned fans -- Rush"
>I hate these stupid magazines as much as the next guy, but they are
>correct on this "award".  When I used to read the various music newsgroups,
>an insult of Rush, or even a slightly critical remark, would draw billions
>and billions of nasty responses from RUSH fans.  I think most of us are
>very sensitive about RUSH and react violenty when they are insulted.  I
>just ignore those people; they don't deserve the time of day anyway.
>Brian E. Saunders

Oh, hey, I'll agree with that 100%.  There's nothing Erland and, say,
Rod Johnson like more than some undergrad going balls-to-the-wall
defending Rush's position in their personal musical constellation.  And
still people wonder why Rush-related threads get so out of hand so quickly,
and why RushFans (tm) have such a crappy reputation on Usenet.

And before you mail me or the NMS asking what I have against undergrads,
let me tell you something:  5 years ago, I was one of those people who
absolutely WENT OFF at the slightest non-flattering mention of Rush.
I mean, they were THE best band, Neil was THE best drummer, Geddy was
THE best bassist, they wrote THE most complex music, etc., etc., etc.
And I accused other people of being closed-minded about Rush, when
the straight facts were I was closing my mind and limiting myself.

I think these reactions are a function of youth and excitement, and of the
react-or's exposure to other "shapes and forms" of music.  Well, before this
starts sounding too much like a self-help group testimonial, just let me
suggest this:  have enough confidence in your own likes and dislikes so that
you can let the "RUSH SUCKS" postings slide without feeling as though you
need to take up arms in order to educate their posters.  It's just music,
and it doesn't define who or what you are.

Sorry to sound preachy, but I think about it.  My dream is to see one of those
"Rush is the most overrated band in existence" posts expire without a
single followup.  Yeah, I know....

patrick widener	       		"Fooled you!  Absorb EGO-SHATTERING IMPULSE
c.s. grad student, UVa		 RAYS, polyester poltroon!"


From: icepick@wpi.WPI.EDU (Marc Sarkis Kazigian)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 92 02:06:26 EST
Subject:  NMS T-Shirts

Sure, I'd love to have another RUSH related t-shirt (that will last
more than one washing:)  Here are a few suggestions for the whole

1)  I know that people have already volunteered for the production of
the shirts, but I just wanted to throw one more name out.  There is a
company called Crazy Shirts that makes the best t-shirts I've ever
come across.  The designs are cool, but most importantly, the t-shirts
they're printed on are of the highest quality I've seen.  I've owned
some shirts from them for several years and they're still in good
condition.  They don't shrink that I've noticed and their X-large is a
REAL X-large, not a large X-large.  Anyway, I saw a note on the back
of their catalog one day that said they print shirts up (in quantity).
If anyone is interested in looking into this, e-mail me and I'll send
you the address.  Just a suggestion if production plans are not
firm... (By the way, the normal price for a Crazy Shirt is $16-18, but
it is absolutely worth every penny for the quality and it's cheaper
than concert shirts)

2)  As for the design of the shirt, I'd love to see a collage of
different RUSH related objects on a black background, sort of like the
inner jacket to the _Exit... Stage Left_ CD.  Of course, we could
include some of the newer things.  Suggestion list:

    1) Man stepping into pentagram (2112)
    2) Owl (Fly by Night)
    3) Brain (Hemispheres)
    4) Dog near fire hydrant (Signals)
    5) Men moving paintings (Moving Pictures)
    6) Box with "RUSH" and "43" written on it (Caress of Steel)
    7) Rabbits (Presto)
    8) Dice/Bones (Roll the Bones)
    9) Man juggling fire (Hold Your Fire)
    10) Cartoon version of the boyz

    These are in no particular order and I realize that not all of it
would fit, but it's just an idea.  Like it?  We could still work in
the NMS World Tour idea, but instead of putting names down, how about

                             NMS World Tour


     I like the tabloid idea too, but it's been used recently by Guns
and Roses.  I like GnR, but if I'm wearing a RUSH shirt, I want people
to recognize it for what it is and not say that we copied GnR.

     There it is... comments, additions, flames?

"Now there's no more Oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
And saw..."


Date: 05 Feb 92 02:47:06 EST
From: Bruce Holtgren <70724.1622@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: SPOILER! -- Oakland review -- SPOILER!

Yo, Rushians. For what it's worth, the following review was
posted on CompuServe's Rocknet forum a few days ago. The guy's
not 100 percent right about everything, but since it's
overwhelmingly positive, I thought you hyperdefensive, overly
touchy Worst Fan sorts might like it. :-)

Enjoy - and for those who haven't caught this tour yet, DO IT!
You won't regret it.


   (January 31)
   Being in a touring rock band can be a tedious job. Same songs,
same lights, same generic arenas, night after night.
   But every so often, a group will have a magical evening onstage,
when all the components mesh together and both the band and crowd
know it.
   Rush had one of those evenings Wednesday night at the Oakland
   Guitarist Alex Lifeson once told me "that every once in awhile,
you look around at the other guys and know its happening," so it's
obviously happened to the group before, but this was by far the
best Rush show ever put on in the Bay Area.
   It was a greatest hits-type retrospective, with the band digging
deep into the vaults for both songs and staging, but it was also a
back-to-basics sort of performance, as Lifeson and bassist Geddy
Lee stuck to playing the instruments hanging around their necks and
not relying as much on floor pedals (both bass pedals and keyboard
signals are used, allowing the band to remain a trio onstage).
   It started with the set list, a collection of band staples
("Big Money," "Subdivisions," "The Pass'" "Tom Sawyer"), the best
of the new "Roll the Bones" album (the title track, "Dreamline,"
"Bravado," "Ghost Of A Chance") and a few gems ("Limelight,"
"Freewill," "Xanadu") that are taken out of storage every few
tours, dusted off, played, and then put away again and brought back
another time.
   The real suprise was the encore, when the band mixed together a
medley of "The Spirit of Radio," "2112," "Finding My Way,"
"La Villa Strangiato," "Anthem" and "Red Barchetta." It was a real
treat for fanatics, since "Anthem" and "Finding My Way" haven't
been played live since the band was at Winterland in the mid-'70s.
   The lighting and staging were exquisite, as usual, and it helps
to have most of the same stage crew employed as the band had on
its first tour. The last few tours looked like the band and the
crew were just going through the motions, but this tour, with the
great set, seems to have lit a fire under the light men and stage
hands, as well.
   The group used a film collage of live footage and animation shot
onto a huge screen located at the back of the stage, as well as
laser lights and other special effects. A series of backdrops were
employed, and the bobbing, inflatable rabbits from the "Presto"
tour also made an appearance, adding a humorous light to the usually
serious band.
   The band members were much more animated on this night as well.
Lifeson was his capable self on guitar, but just as playful with
the crowd in front. Lee, looking more and more like John Lennon
every day, with his long hair and granny glasses, was just as
animated, hopping around on one foot when he could get away from his
pedals, and playing a very solid bass as well. And his voice, once
the bane of many critic and fan, has come back down to earth. He is
singing in a register that seems to be much more comfortable for him,
and dropped the Daffy Duck on helium voice that was used in the
early days.
   Drummer Neil Peart was a rock, as usual, and he is one of the few
drummers whose solo is an anticipated highlight and not a reason to
go to the restroom.
   The band was spurred on by a younger crowd than it normally draws,
many there to see Bay Area openers Primus, but others out for a night
of great music, and they got it. Regardless of what you may think of
Rush, when the band is on like it was Wednesday night, there aren't
many groups in the world who can touch it.

                                                     --by Dan Wall


Date: Tue, 4 Feb 92 23:09:21 EST
From: vanth! (Jim Shaffer)
Subject: Rush donates to AmFAR

I heard on MTV News today that Rush donated the proceeds from one of the
Oakland shows to the American Foundation for AIDS Research, thus becoming
only the second musical act (after Madonna) to do so.

 *  From the disk of: | jms@vanth.uucp                 | "They don't tell me
 Jim Shaffer, Jr.     | uunet!cbmvax!vanth!jms         | nothin', so I find
 37 Brook Street      | | out all I can."
 Montgomery, PA 17752 |      |      (Phil Collins)


Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1992 09:20 EST
From: "Anthony J. DelBusso" 
Subject: Tony's poll results III (VOTE IF YOU HAVEN'T YET!!!)

Hey fellow Rushians,
   Well, here is the third update to my Rush poll.  The reason why it
took so long to post is because I have only recieved 4 new votes since
last time.  I think that with a membership well over 1000 I could get
more votes that this.  Well, once again, if anyone hasn't voted yet,
I will be glad to keep updating the list.  Until next time...

   I recieved a total of 41 votes (including myself) which consisted of:

   Alan Parsons Project................2 +
   Bach, Johann Sebastian..............2 +
   Beatles, The........................2 +
   Black Sabbath.......................1
   Blue Oyster Cult....................1
   Borrowed Time.......................1
   Boston(/Orion The Hunter/RTZ).......4 +
   Bush, Kate..........................1
   Clapton, Eric.......................1
   Collins, Phil.......................1
   Corea, Chic.........................1
   Crimson, King.......................1
   Cure, The...........................1
   Def Leppard.........................1
   Dire Straits........................2
   Doors, The..........................1
   ELP.................................1 *
   Emerson, Lake and Palmer............1
   Genesis.............................3 +
   Guns 'n' Roses......................3
   Iron Maiden.........................1
   Jane's Addiction....................1
   Jethro Tull.........................3 +
   Judas Priest........................2
   Level 42............................1
   Living Colour.......................2 (my 4th favorite)
   Led Zeppelin........................5 (my 2nd favorite)
   Max Webster.........................1
   Meat Loaf...........................1
   Metallica...........................4  (my 3rd favorite)
   Mitchell, Kim.......................1
   Nine Inch Nails.....................1
   Pink Floyd.........................11 +
   Police, The.........................1
   R.E.M...............................3 +
   Springsteen, Bruce..................1
   Stone Roses.........................1
   Styx................................1 *
   Suicidal Tendencies.................1
   U2..................................2 +
   Vaughan, Stevie Ray.................1
   Yes................................18 +
   Zappa, Frank........................1

   * means new addition to list
   + means update to list

Keep rockin' and rollin' (the bones)!

                        Tony DelBusso

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From: Patrick M. Ryan 
Subject: headlines for t-shirt
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 92 9:33:44 EST

I'm definitely up for a t-shirt with a tabloid motif.  My preference
would be to make it rife with inside Rush and NMS jokes.  Who else
would understand "Dewey defeats Truman"?  ;-)


orq: "everybody got to evelate ..."

                                                                patrick ryan
                                                       oceans and ice branch
                                    nasa / stx / goddard space flight center


Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1992 22:30 -0500
Subject: Original RUSH Commercials

Hello One And All!

I know that I am speaking to a well-established "Rush Crowd."  That is why
I must come foward with the following items.  It seems that I have been
selfish over the last five years.  Let me fill you in:

Five years ago, a friend of mine (whom worked for Polygram Records in
Indianapolis) had the opportunity to grab some old reels before they were
discarded from the PG vault.  What were these master-peices?  They were/are
commercials promoting RUSH albums and tours.  Most are stereo, but a few
are mono.  One even promotes a concert tour.  The dialog is something like
this...Hey Jim are you going to the RUSH show?  Gee Jane, I don't know.
The tickets are going pretty fast! (This was for Permanent Waves).

Each reel (1/4" @ 7 1/2 IPS) is about thirty seconds long.  I think the
original RUSH (album one) commercial is one minute.

I have these at the studio, so I will get back on tommorrow with the actual
reels that I have.

John Vester
Berklee College of Music '87
Sounds Unlimited Recording Studio

BTW, in responce to the first RUSH show.  Mine was on the Signals tour and
every show at Indy since then.  A friend, saw RUSH on the RUSH tour with
John Rutsey and they opened for Sha-Na-Na!  Times really change!

                                                    ...that's a wrap!


Date:    Wed, 5 Feb 92 10:01 EST
Subject: DEM T'S

First of all I prefer the tabloid format for the design.
Possible headlines that I've come up with are:

  I'd also prefer pre-washed cotton, xxl if possible (I'm
that I'm not the only 'big' Rush fan out there).

  I like the world tour idea but I feel that there may be
a problem  withh everyone requesting their dream location
and date (so many members, requests for the same dates,
etc.).  However, what about making up a tour slate with
locations from Rush albums themselves?  For example:
        Tai Shan Ampitheatre
        Toronto International Airport-runway 3
        Paris (on Bastille Day of course)

I'm sure that a full slate could be created in this manner.
The locations would have meaning to all members rather than
just those who are from Rough and Ready, Pennsylvania (yes
that is an actual town here in PA).

  Also, if possible, let's have the couple of subscribers who
are working on this little project get together and share ideas
and connections.
                                   keep us posted,

                                                    Tim AumAn


Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1992 10:58 EST
From: "Anthony J. DelBusso" 
Subject: Re: IN THE END...

   "In The End" is one of my ATFRS (all-time-favorite-Rush-songs).  I've
never really noticed anything like what you said, but I'll look (or
listen) for it.  Later...


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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 92 10:08:11 -0600
From: (Saurav Misra)
Subject: Rush on MTV news

   Saw a blurb on Rush on MTV news a couple of days ago. Kurt Loder was 
"reporting", and said that Rush had dedicated their proceeds from one of the 
shows to AMFAR (American Foundation for Aids Research). According to Loder,
they are only the second major Rock Performer (After Madonna!?!?!) to make
a public contribution to the Aids fight. Rest assured, I think this proves
that the boyz are not only 1st class musicians and intelligent performers,
but genuinely good human beings as well. Warms the cockles of my heart...and
their gesture seems even to have won the grudging respect of the normally
dour Kurt Loder.
-saurav misra

p.s. I think the tabloid idea for the t-shirt is the best. National
Midnight Start (Subtitle: "We've got Mars on the Horizon")


Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1992 11:17 EST
Subject: T-shirts

In the spirit of democracy, I'd just like to add my $0.02 about the T-shirts.
I think the tabloid idea is beautiful, and I really like Hans Greunig's
suggestions for headlines.  Also, if possible, it would be really sweet if we
could get all the subscribers on the back - but that would be an awful lot of
names to print.  Anyway, with or without the names on the back, I like the

Also, just a side note.  I think the Baltimore situation sucks rocks!  Any
word on rescheduling? (or perhaps a show at Merriweather?)


Subject: T-Shirt idea
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 92 9:50:37 MST
From: Guy Kendall 

Someone posted an idea about listing a bunch of cities that Rush is not
going to play, but that we would like them to play on the back of the
shirt. How about having a list of names from Rush songs that are cities,
or sound like city names? For example:

Lakeside Park
Willow Dale
Tia Shan
Middle Kingdom
La Villa Strangiato
Bacchus Plateau
Panacea (p.s. Theres a town in Florida called
Tobes of Hades (???)
Cygnus X-1

I'm sure there's more, but thats all I can think of for now. I think you
get the idea though. We could use the suggestion someone else made and
preface the list with something like NMS World Tour 1992 (or how about
2112???). What does everyone think about this idea?

On another note, just for fun, who can identify all the songs I got these
references from?

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Date: 05 Feb 92 12:09:33 EST
From: Hugh Faulkner <76004.2020@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: 02/04/92 - The National Midnight Star #4

To Will Stocker's request:

WS>What was the first ever Rush concert all of you have attended...

Mine was the 2112 tour at the Santa Monica Civic in LA, I believe, the year
that 2112 was release. Since those tender years, at the age of 13, I have
seen EVERY tour with the exception of Moving Pictures - I was out of the

In fact, I was not even aware that Moving Pictures had been released.  I was
stopped at a red light when another car pulled up next to me.  I heard
nothing more than the last 15 seconds of Red Barchetta - the part when Alex
is playing harmonics and Ged is moving around on the bass - and I knew
instantly who it was.



Date: Wed, 5 Feb 92 09:56:56 -0800
From: David Conley 
Subject: Rush Seattle Show!!!  [ SPOILER!]

Great show last night here in Seattle. A few quick observations:

1.) Better sound. In my estimation, the sound quality was so much
better than for the Presto show. Each instrument was cleanly mixed.
I was happy to hear Alex's guitar work for a change :-)

2.) Boyz's attitudes! The guys seemed very happy and relaxed. Geddy
didn't say more than a half dozen words during the Presto show.
During last nights show he was very animated, smiling, laughing,
screaming those Yeah, Oh Yeahs!! Lots of joking between Ged and
Alex. Even Neil cracked a few smiles!! That day off before the show
agreed with the guys. Tons o' energy for those 38-39 year olds :-)
Gads, I'll be there soon :-) :-)

3.) Geddy's bass. Very little keyboard playing...lots of fancy
bass gyrations!!!!

4.) Neil has been lifting!!! He looked great in the tank top and
bandana. His drum work is as sharp as ever!!!

Highlites for me:

Where's My Thing
Finding My Way and Anthem!!!

Those giant Bunnies need to go!!!!
No tunes from CoS :-(  Maybe next time.......


David Conley
University of Washington School of Medicine, Seattle


Date: Wed, 5 Feb 92 11:32:16 MST
Subject: T-Shirt Confusion!!
From: ehuffman@NMSU.Edu!all

Is it just me, or is anyone else confused as to WHO exactly is doing the
shirt? There seem to be about three separate efforts, and I think we should
decide who will be the person to do them before anyone starts voting on
designs, etc...I think there are a lot of people out there who want one, but
are waiting to get this ironed out before they sign up- Just an opinion-

P.S. I liked the tabloid idea, and the names on the back- (thanks Ian!)

Elise Huffman


Date: Wed, 5 Feb 92 13:58:48 EST
From: "Some memories last forever..." 
Subject: Shirts, Boots, etc.

	Hey there!  First off,to Mark I am certainly in for the shirt idea.
I think the star idea is cool, simply for the design.  I also like the idea
of the NMS member list on the back.
	I want to ask again that anyone who has any CoS boots PLEASE let me
know.  I also saw that ridiculous Sam Goody thing.  I was extremely pissed.
We all know that RUSH may not get the most press, but who cares.  We are all
dedicated fans and the fact that there are more RUSH fans from all walks of life
than manny bands could ever hope for is enough to calm me.  Sure we all get
offended and hostile at anti-Rush news, but hey, aren't these people just to
ignorant to really understand. 'Nough said.

"Why are we here? For the beer! Roll dem bones!"--Gedd in the RTB tourbook
Kevin E. Mort                     |      "One likes to believe in
808 Willkie South                 |       the freedom of music..."
Bloomington, Indiana 47406        |
ph: 7-0794                        |                  -- Neil Peart


Date: Wed, 5 Feb 92 09:06:21 HST
From: hinano@ahi.pbrc.Hawaii.Edu (Hinano Akaka)
Subject: T-shirts

I really like the T-shirt ideas!!!  It's too bad we couldn't list
everyone's names with a roadie job next to it, i.e. lighting assist.,
carpenter, personal shreve, or something.  The ideas I like a lot are
the tabloid ones -- fantastic!!!  There are so many possibilities.

I just thought of this -- if names on the back are too much, how
about, as someone mentioned,

			NMS World Tour 1992

and then have the list of cities in which everyone is from, and name
it in such a way that the route of cities could pass for a tour.

My 0.02.  If I think of anything else, I'll definitely mention it.

Keep up the good ideas...



From: Scott David Daly 
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 92 14:30:50 EST
Subject: live songs

  Hey There!

     Does anyone have a tape with Cinderella Man or Entre Nous LIVE?
Please give a yell if ya do!

	Also, (and it might just be me) but wouldn't you just like to
hunt down and kill that one yelling and screaming idiot that is
always about 2 rows in front of whoever was in the process of making
what would have been a really awesome boot! Maybe it's just me...



Subject: Seattle, WA [SPOILER!]
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 92 13:15:12 PDT

I'm new to this forum, but am a long-time Rush fan.  Rush once again put on
an excellent show in Seattle last night.  I've seen several requests for
the set list, so here's what they played:

Force Ten
Free Will
Distant Early Warning
Time Stand STill
Roll the Bones
Show Don't Tell
The Big Money
Ghost of a Chance
The Pass
Where's My Thing
(Drum Solo)
Closer to the Heart
Xanadu into Superconductor
Tom Sawyer

Encore--Montage of the following:
Spirit of Radio
2112:Temples of Syrinx
Finding My Way
La Villa Strangiato
Red Barchetta
Spirit of Radio (wrap-up)

Like others have commented, they had a good time on stage.  Geddy was quite
interactive with the audience and was all over the place, and Alex had
quite a collection of keyboard and pedal equipment.  I guess my only
complaint is that they're using some of the same old videos I've seen on
the last two tours, but the light show was excellent.  As usual, this was a
show not to be missed.

I would love to get copies of tapes that are out there.  Please let me know
if there is some sort of tape tree or trading system going.  Unfortunately,
I have no Rush tapes to trade, but my husband has a huge collection of
Grateful Dead tapes if you are interested.

Luann Vodder


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