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          The National Midnight Star, Number 434

                Thursday, 20 February 1992
Today's Topics:
                Rush on ABC's "In Concert"
                  trouble in the forest
                         Bad Boy
                         Bad Boy
                  Drummers mailing list
                  Rush at Alpine Valley?
                Neil mentioned on MST3000
      Re: 02/17/92 - The National Midnight Star #433
                        PRIMUS CD
               New "rarities" CD rip-off :(
                 Guitarists' Mailing List
                      3D in P/G tour
                Rush in Dallas! (SPOILER!)
                      /* Finally */
                   Favorite groups poll
                        BASS LINES
Could UK readers give a run-down of songs on RTB singles?
                    March 12 concert!!
               Parent Who Likes RUSH (etc.)
                 Primus sounds like Rush
                 Update Music Newsletter
                      T-shirt color
                        News Flash
                        rush list

From: Editor, The National Midnight Star 
Subject: Administrivia

Well, by the time you read this, I should be pretty much caught up on ALL
the administrative mail for now.  If you expected a reply to something and
didn't get it, you might send another mail item.  I didn't reply to a few
"Where is the NMS" type letters, as that should be obvious from the postings
of administrivia.

Also, at the time of this mailing, there are officially over 1200 members
on the list, and still growing!

Lastly, next week I shall be spending a week brain-bending at a NeXT Sysadmin
class in Chicago.  I don't know what my schedule will be like, but I hope to
have some spare time.  If anyone is interested in getting together, drop me
a line at "" to talk about it.  I'll be reading mail at
that address until Sat. morning, at which point I fly up there.  I'm interested
in finding any decent brewpub-type places if there are any...



From: (John Becker)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 92 16:00:13 CST
Subject: Rush on ABC's "In Concert"

ABC's Friday night "In Concert" program usually includes a short segment
where upcoming tour dates for a major band are listed. Last Friday, the
segment featured Rush, using a portion of the "Roll The Bones" video as the
background while the dates were listed.


Date:  Mon, 17 Feb 92 21:35:58 -0500
Subject: trouble in the forest

 Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows the meaning of "THE TREES".
>Who is being oppressed, who are the maples and the oaks.  Also some info
>Pert's education and song lyric style.
>        When is the next tour?  The Roll of the Bones was unbelievable.  I
>am looking forward to the next show.  Just trying to find some info.

please respond to me, not the list

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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 92 21:59:59 EST
From: (patrick madden)
Subject: Bad Boy

The song "Bad Boy" which is on the "Electric" bootleg is from the American 
Beatles album called "Beatles VI."  Also, as people are noticing that MTV uses
"Show Don't Tell" as background, I've heard "New World Man" used as a 
for stats on an Indy 500 race car driver.  MTV also uses "Over My Head" by 
X as background, but never plays their videos either.



From: (Bing Kongmebhol)
Subject: Bad Boy
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 92 19:26:34 PST

In response to the song "Bad Boy", the rush-mgr said:

>[ Yes, this cover is on the "Electric Lady" boot and also the "Stellar
>  Dynamics" record, if I'm not mistaken.  They say it's from the 4th (?)
>  Beatles album, but silly me, I can't think of which one that is right
>  off...                                                         :rush-mgr ]

This song was originally done by Larry Williams in 1959.  As far as the
Beatles are concerned, they released it in the US on their album _Beatles VI_
in 1965, and in the UK on _A Collection of Beatle Oldies_ in 1966.


Subject: Drummers mailing list
From: (Sean Flanegan)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 92 19:44:04 PST

This may be getting a little off the subject but is there any type of a
mailing list for drummers?  In the last NMS I saw the post which
mentioned the bass player mailing list.   Just wanted the same type of
thing for us drummers.




Date: Mon, 17 Feb 92 23:47:08 -0500
From: (Kevin Kiel)
Subject: Rush at Alpine Valley?

     I have heard rumors, and I would like to verify if they are true. Does
anybody know if Rush is planning on playing at Alpine Valley (East Troy, Wis)
on this leg of their tour? On the first leg of the tour, they played only one
show in the Chicagoland area, Rosemont Horizon, they generally play two nights
in the Chi area. I know for a fact that Rush love to play at Alpine (says so
in "Visions"), and my friends and I would really love to see them there again.
What is they word on this topic?? I belive that it was another NMS reader who
said that he heard the rumor here, but I have never seen it posted.

     About the Parents and Rush topic; My father saw Rush for the first time
on this tour, in Indy. He really enjoyed the show! In particular, he thought
that Neil`s solo was "god-like". "In my day we had a guy by the name of Buddy
Rich.......but this guy! WOW!", were his only words. He did enjoy the whole
show too, he functioned just as any ("younger generation") would, gee,
my father is almost 55!

Rush, a show for the who,le family.

Kevin Kiel


Date: Tue, 18 Feb 92 01:56:10 -0600
From: (ace)
Subject: Neil mentioned on MST3000

A strange thing happened today.  To relieve that I-wish-Thursday-would-get-
here feeling we all get when Rush is playing this coming Thursday, I was 
kicking     back today, watching Mystery Science Theater 3000 on the Comedy 
(for those not familiar with the show, you should give it a try.  hilarious)
Anyway, all these bongo drums are playing in the background of the movie 
being  spoofed, and one of the robots (I think it was Tom) said, "Presenting 
Neil Peart on drums."

[ This was "Wild Rebels", or maybe "Side Hackers" ?  I too am a MST3K groupie,
  and Syrinx is the repository for the ftp-able files for the MST3K mailing
  list.  For details on that, send mail to  No, I don't
  run it, I only offered disk space.                                :rush-mgr ]

The only bummer is that he pronounced it "pert" like the shampoo with 
conditioner for extra body.  Maybe I'll write them a nasty letter.
The point is, it seems a bit whimsical to use a reference in a cult-classic
comedy series that would be lost on the multitudes of the unenlightened who
think that Neil Peart is the actor that plays the Maytag repair man.
Oh well, just a slice of one man's mind, lightly floured and baked until 
golden brown.
Rolling the bones,


Date:         Tue, 18 Feb 92 03:55:55 MST
From: "Glenn W." 
Subject:      Re: 02/17/92 - The National Midnight Star #433

I would like to comment how us people in Phoenix are getting screwed because
Rush won't be coming to town until June after they pass through Europe!!!

The reason we were passed up in January was because all of are venues
were booked up... Especially Guns n' Roses got two dates in Phoenix...

I can't really blame Rush's Management but It is a raw deal.



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From: T J Moore-Read 
Subject: PRIMUS CD
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 92 11:54:36 GMT

If anybody in the UK wants to buy the primus cd 'sailing the seas of cheese'
make me anb offer as I have two copies at the moment!!

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From: stedmant@LONEX.RL.AF.MIL (Terrance A. Stedman)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 92 08:30:09 EST
Subject: New "rarities" CD rip-off :(

        Thumbing through the "rare/special" CDs at a local store, I came
across a 1991 CD called Rush: Enemies Within and Beyond.  The price
was a modest 38 bucks (yeah right).  The guy let me tape it without
even paying for it and boy was I glad about that.  It seems that 10 of
the 12 tracks are ripped from the GUP tour video.  The other two
tracks, limelight and freewill, are different but I'm betting that
they were "borrowed" from the ESL tour video.  For those interested,
the CD was from Howdy! Records out of W. Germany.  BTW, the CD was
subtitled Live FM Grace Under Pressure.  What a bogus lie.
        Anyway, about that poll.  I believe Derek Dick and Fish are
one in the same person.  Correct me if I'm wrong...

Terry Stedman


From: raj2@Ra.MsState.Edu (rex allan jones)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 92 12:19:36 CST
Subject: Guitarists' Mailing List

  I noticed the mention of a newsletter for bass players in the last NMS.
  Is there a counterpart for guitarists?  If anyone has the address, could
you please post it or mail me?  Thanks a lot.



From: (Ron Kleiner)
Subject: 3D in P/G tour
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 92 14:35:45 EST

I saw the P/G tour twice (Buffalo, July '84; Toronto, September '84),
and in the latter show (the one on the P/G tour videotape) they did in
fact hand out 3D glasses for the "Count Floyd" sequence preceeding
"The Weapon".  I didn't notice any effect, however.  I can't remember
whether they were handed out at the Buffalo show.

On a related matter, a couple of posters were wondering whether
certain P/G songs were ever played in concert.  At the Buffalo show,
they played every song from the album except Kid Gloves, whereas in
Toronto they played every song except Afterimage.

Ron Kleiner

P.S.  I hope we've seen the last of those silly polls.


Date:       18 Feb 92 16:09:00 CST
From: Robert (R.A.) Herrage 
Subject:    Rush in Dallas! (SPOILER!)

Chalk up another great show for RUSH in Dallas!  Here's the song list:

   Force Ten
   Distant Early Warning
   Time Stand Still
-- Geddy finally talks to the crowd --
   Roll The Bones
   Show Don't Tell
   The Big Money
   Ghost Of A Chance
   Subdivisions (minus 2nd verse)
   The Pass
   Where's My Thing?                 -- Excellent! --
-- Neil does his "thing" --          -- Superb! --
   Closer To The Heart
   Xanadu -> Superconductor
   Tom Sawyer


   The Spirit Of Radio (all but the ending) ->
   2112 (I and II)
   Finding My Way ->
     La Villa Strangiato (last half) ->
       Anthem (GREAT!) ->
         Red Barchetta ->
           The Spirit Of Radio (the ending)

The show lasted about 2 hours (RUSH's portion).  There are a few dis-

1) No "Finding My Way -> In The Mood"

2) Not enough songs from the new album (ie. Neurotica, The Big Wheel,
   Face Up, You Bet Your Life, and Heresy were omitted).

3) Just 2 hours long -- they've played longer than that before.

Bottom-line though:    Don't Miss Them!!


Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1992 16:36 CST
From: INDE54Q@Jetson.UH.EDU
Subject: /* Finally */

The Boys come to mytown.  Houston, TX tonight.  Ha ha to all of you who
saw them earlier in the tour.  I'm seeing them tonight.

Life is good.




Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1992 19:28 EST
From: "Anthony J. DelBusso" 
Subject: Favorite groups poll

   I'm still taking in votes for my poll.  I haven't really got
enough more votes yet to post another tally (I've only recieved
2 or 3 since last time).  Please send your votes to:
For those of you who are new around here, I am looking for your
favorite 3 groups (in order) other than Rush.  Thanks Rushians!


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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1992 20:15 EST

Even more headlines:
Location for a concert: The Pleasure Dome
"Force Ten storm disrupts sheep and causes the river Alph to
"-.-- -.-- --.."
"Scientists report 'The world is perfect!  Everything turns in
  synchronous relation!"
"Rock lyricist loses touch with reality: 'I am made from the
  dust of the stars, and the oceans flow in my veins'"
"A day in the life of a car designer--'every day we're standing
  in a wind tunnel'"
"An ill wind comes arising across the cities of the plain--it's
  probably the beans..."

You've all seen Neil and his bandana for this tour?  Well, I
just saw the video for Queensryche's "Anybody Listening?"
(great song, great video--any recommendations of what QR albums
I should get?  I have none.)  In this video, their drummer is
also wearing a bandana.  Coincidence?  Well, probably, but I
just thought I'd bring it up...



From: T J Moore-Read 
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 92 13:38:58 GMT

Does anyone have a transcription of the Prime-Mover bassline ?

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 92 10:20:23 EST
From: J F Shriver 
Subject: None

        Well,It's 10 days till RUSH hits St. Pete. I'd like to know if
someone has a current set list available. If so please either post it
or mail it directly to me.


[ Voila', it's further up in this issue!  :-)                   :rush-mgr ]



Date: Wed, 19 Feb 92 10:52:36 CST
From: "David Zekert" 
Subject: Could UK readers give a run-down of songs on RTB singles?

Hi Rushians!

I'd like to hear what songs, interviews, etc. are on the U.K. RTB singles
Andrew Brooks said were being released so that I can import those that fit
my interests.

Also, if Andrew, et al., could do the same when GOAC is released?

Thanks a gazillion (or at least a bunch),



From: (Ted A. Latner)
Subject: March 12 concert!!
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 92 13:35:00 EST

  I was woken up this morning by a friend calling to say he had
just heard that Rush has added a show on March 12 here in Binghamton,
NY.  The show is going to be at the Broome County Arena, and tickets
go on sale this Saturday morning. (10:00 E.S.T.). I already know
about 15 people who are interested in going.
  Binghamton is about 3 and a half hours from New York City, an hour
and a half from Syracuse, and about 3 to 4 hours from Rochester and
Albany.  If you live anywhere within driving distance of this, you
might want to go, because the Arena isn't all that big, and almost
any seats will be pretty good.

  On a separate, but related note, have people noticed that all of
Rush's concerts this year have been assigned seating.  When I first
went to see them in 1987, at the Broome County Arena, it was general
admission, and I got up pretty close to the stage.  When I and some
friends went to the second RTB concert in Rochester, we asked one
of the arena managers about it, and they said that the band has
decided not to do any more general admission concerts.  Can anyone
confirm or deny the truth of this?

Ted Latner


Date:       19 Feb 92 12:59:00 CST
From: Robert (R.A.) Herrage 
Subject:    Parent Who Likes RUSH (etc.)

I'm a parent, 31, new to the mailing list, and just as much of a RUSH
fan as I ever was.  I took my 7 year-old son with me to the Feb 16th
concert in Dallas.  He loved it!  A lot of the other concert goers
kept saying "Hey, look at that little dude!  Alright!".  His favorite
songs are Xanadu, Show Don't Tell, and Roll The Bones.

I've admired RUSH ever since I saw them do "A Farewell to Kings" and
"Xanadu" on Don Kirschner's Rock Concert back in the late 70's.  I
love their technique and the endless time signature changes.  I haven't
missed a concert since I started (Hemispheres was my first one).

By the way, if there are any other percussion connoisseurs out there
that are interested in chatting about Neil, send me some email.  I've
been playing now for about 18 years and my son's been playing since he
was 18 months-old.  He's coming along pretty good for his age and is
already taking a stab at Xanadu.  I, myself, attribute most of what I
have learned to Neil.  I've spent more time analyzing his rhythms and
technique than any other percussionist.  I get more satisfaction out
of playing along with RUSH tunes than with any other musical group. It
would still be a dream-come-true to be able to jam with Alex and Geddy
-- even at the age of 31!


P.S. I was glad to hear how they've re-kindled that new-band-kinda
     flame and are anxious (to the point of cutting vacation and
     holiday time short) to finish the current tour and get back
     into the studio (excerpt from concert program).


Date: Wed, 19 Feb 92 20:06:58 -0800
From: (Michael L. Ruddick)
Subject: Primus sounds like Rush

Check out the Primus disc "Suck on This".  One of the songs starts out with a
great copy of YYZ and then goes on into their own thing?  Maybe the old
saying 'immitation is the highest form of flattery' is true - coulda helped
get them on the tour, eh?


Date:    Thu, 20 Feb 92  10:52:23 EST
From: "Stephen A. Dale" 
Subject: Greetings

Hello, out there in Rush-Land!
As this is my first posting (or rather, attempt at
posting), a little introduction may be in order.  My
name is Stephen A. Dale, and I am a sophomore attending
Boston University.  Originally, I hail from Pittsburgh,


Date:    Thu, 20 Feb 92  10:54:58 EST
From: "Stephen A. Dale" 
Subject: And???

Wait!  There's more!  But the computer wouldn't listen, and away the message 
  But there is more.  I would like to know how many 'Burghers there are out 
have always thought Pittsburgh has great taste in music, so there should be 
a lo
    Finally ( for now) what does the morse in the beginning of YYZ actually 

[ This is in the FAQL, but it is morse for "YYZ".  YYZ is the airport code
  for Toronto International Airport, where Rush 'comes home to.'  :rush-mgr ]

Until later, Roll the Bones
Stephen A. Dale

PS Ride for the Sun...


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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 92 13:00:20 -0500
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Subject:      Update Music Newsletter

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Date:    Thu, 20 Feb 1992 12:21:00 -0600 (CST)
From: MGM2731@SIGMA.TAMU.EDU (Mike 'Vogon' Margolis)
Subject: T-shirt color

Rush-dudes (and dudettes),

	I haven't been following the complete shirt idea, but whatever the
design on the shirt is, the color of the t-shirt should be red (not blue)!

Also, I managed to see Rush twice on this tour (in Houston and Dallas) and I
must say that on the second show, you can spend more time looking at the small
details (it also helps if you have better seats for the second show!!). I think
two shows is definitely the way to go - I'm already looking forward to the next
tour 2 or so years from now!


ORQ: i see red
     it hurts my head
     guess it must be something
     that i read
     we've got mars on the horizon
     says the national midnight star
     (it's true)
     and i see red
     (not blue)

		Rush, _Grace Under Pressure_, "Red Lenses"


Date: Thu, 20 Feb 92 13:16:45 CST
From: Brian Lawrence Kirk 
Subject: News Flash


Well, maybe.

I've managed to skip almost all of the spoilers, so this may have happened
somewhere else already.  But at the Houston concert, Geddy did *not* have
his hair in a ponytail!  It was entertaining to see Geddy running around on
the stage with his hair flying around.  We now return to our regularly
scheduled postings.

OGQ: "Catch a fish."

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Subject: TEE-SHIRT
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 92 15:27:27 -0500
From: RUSH Fans Digest Manager 

This went to the administrative address, and due to the current backlog,
is now a week late.  Please send mail to the correct addresses!

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Date: 12 Feb 92 11:27:00 CDT
Subject: TEE-SHIRT
To: "rush-mgr" <>

TEE-Shirt trio,
    I to would like to see an organized effort with the tee's.
    I am in favor of a Black tee shirt with a simple design.  Classic lines.
    I like the star idea design.  If this is a vote, I would vote against the
newsprint/tabloid design for the simplisity and classicsity of the STAR logo.
I will take whatever I can get.  100% cotton is fine as long as XXL are
available.  I suggest the lettering and design be done in red, yellow and 
white.IMHO.  I would probably like several shirts, can we get better prices 
for largerorders?

------- End of Forwarded Message


Date:        Thu, 20 Feb 92 16:09:21 EST
From: MacReady 
Subject: rush list

I'd like to know what this rumor is about Neil Peart and cancer.
I heard that he has it and is thus wearing a bandana on tour.
Probably bullshit....also.... how do you pronounce his last name?
Is it like "pert" shampoo or "piert" as in jump off the pier?


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