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         The National Midnight Star, Number 1069

                  Friday, 17 March 1995
Today's Topics:
                 German "Import" MP album
        RE: You know you're a RushFan (TM) when...
             Rush as a distraction/YKYARFW...
            C&W album and the humour impaired.
               The usual awards type stuff
     Re: 03/02/95 - The National Midnight Star #1062
                     Studying to Rush
                   Just some stuff....
                    Not a real fan....
                 America OnLine results?
                   Lifeson solo album?
                 READ!!  NMS Book to Rush
                    Re: Opening Bands
                     2112, yes or no?
                    Re:Neil and Buddy
          You know you're a Rush fan when . . .
                   Re: Barenaked Ladies
                       random stuff
              Wow!  I found something cool!
              Between the Sun and Mood  Poem
                      lurking et al.
                  Rush CD Video, YKYARFW
     Re: 02/22/95 - The National Midnight Star #1058
                       My Comments
     Re: 03/09/95 - The National Midnight Star #1066
     Re: 03/08/95 - The National Midnight Star #1065
                     Children of Rush
                 ....and some Rush stuff
                     Echolyn show....
     Re: 03/09/95 - The National Midnight Star #1066
     Temples of "THE" Syrinx - St. Louis 1980 Bootleg
                      Periodic Table
                Seems to me it's Chemistry

From: (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Fri Mar 17 18:22:20 EST 1995
Subject: Aministrivia

This is the last of the "old" mail, I'll do another one late tonight
with some newer posts.

And for all of you in and around San Diego, there is now a good opportunity to
see "phosphorescent waves" for yourself (although not on a tropical sea.. :-)
All the storms lately have brought in the animals responsible for the
phenomenon. Try the beaches at Torrey Pines (just north of UCSD/La Jolla)
for a great place to observe it.

- rush-mgr


Date: Wed,  8 Mar 95 07:10:14 PST
Subject: German "Import" MP album

In regards to the message posted about the Moving Pictures album
from West Germany. You have a gem there. Most albums that come
over from Germany, or are imported are usually better quality when it
comes to manufacturing. Simply because there are fewer/deeper grooves
in the vinyl you'll have a better, fuller tone. My friend in Albuquerque bought
the Metallica black album and it was I believe 4 discs total... Like 2 songs per
side! But, it was thick vinyl, and had a great sound. Hang on to that.


Date: 09 Mar 95 02:07:13 CST
From: William Geraths 
Subject: ?!!?

Ooops, I goofed.  Paul (, you're right about
the last tour in this area (CP Tour).  CandleBox did open for the Boyz.
Primus opened for the Bunnies tour.  Sorry about that, got my tours confused.

Your little side note reminded me of a situation from back in the mid '80s.
At the time I was living in Hope Mills, N. Carolina (just outside of
Fayetteville), there were a couple of bands that did some RUSH covers.  Man,
both bands were awesome.  One of the bands would start with the "Peanut's Gang
Theme," first the keys, then the bass, then the kit, then the GTR... then these
guys would break into "The Spirit of Radio."  These guys also did YYZed,
La Villa, Red Barchetta to name a few.  The other band covered SubDivisions,
the percussionist had a MIDI trigger pad that would kick a sample voice during
the chorus, very tasteful.  Also, these guys did an excellent cover of
Natural Science (All three segments)!!!  Anyhow, the folks that live/lived
in that area could not comprehend the music.  They would sit politely, but
you could tell that they were not into that sort of music.  Oh well, maybe
the RUSH C&W thang will convert those folks.  :->  (Har, Har)
Thanx Paul...

Also, to Chris Pardua - I dug out my old vinyl collection, which contains
an original pressing of Judas Priest's "Sin After Sin."  There is a Simon
Phillip's listed for drums/percussion.  SAS is found on the Columbia label,
recorded back in 1977.  More than likely it is the same guy, after all Simon
has been around for quite a few years and has done many gigs.

Keep an eye out for the new group RUSHOLLICA, they'll make your lawn die... :)

Laugh a Little...

           "Like a steely blade in a silken sheath
            We don't see what they're made of...
            They shout about love, but when push
                   comes to shove
            They live for the things they're afraid of..."

                                   N. Peart

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From: Brian Thomson 
Subject: RE: You know you're a RushFan (TM) when...
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 95 09:09:00 PST

 You know you're a RushFan when...
>.... the first thing you learn on keyboards is Subdivisions...

BTW, just who or what is a Rush Limbaugh? (Did I even spell it correctly?)
It's not a celebrity cheese, is it?

more cheese, grommit!
 - wallace (a grand day out)


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 03:15:43 -0700 (MST)
From: Boo-ba Fett 
Subject: Rush as a distraction/YKYARFW...

> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 18:04:56 -0500 (EST)
> From: Partha Mukhopadhyay 
> Subject: A 1st time poster...with a complaint
> Since I'm new, here goes with the vital facts

well, I am not all that new, but I will anyways. I got into Rush around
Thanksgiving of 1992, mainly because of a friend that praised them to no
end (I however got him into TNMS... hey Dinesh...). Anyways, he always
told me how good they were, but I never really cared. Yeah, I had heard
_Tom Sawyer_ and a few others on the radio, but I never really listened
because I had friends that always made fun of Rush. Continuing, I finally
heard _New World Man_ and something clicked. The next day, I asked Dinesh
where the song was from, and coincidentally ended up at Zia that night. I
did see Signals, but also saw Chronicles used (in awesome shape) for $6. I
really got into them on our families annual Thanksgiving camping trip,
with alot of time to really listen to stuff. I have only been to one
concert, CP, but I definatly wanna go again
   another really weird note, I also got into the other Rush [Ralph :)]
on that trip, but I still listen to the band...

> Now, for the complaint....I am a college student and one of my (many)
> vices is that I need to have some music on while studying.....with other
> fave groups (Scorpions, Queensryche, DT, Mozart) I have no problems.  As
> much as I like the music, I can ignore it. IT just doesn't work with
> Rush....I find myself singing along, and can't concentrate on the
> material I'm looking at.....It's a problem of the band being too
> good to ignore, even for a few minutes........
> Just curious, anyone else, college types or otherwise, find themselves
> totally ignoring the stuff they have to do, the stuff with an all too near
> deadline, just because of a Rush song playing nearby?
ummm... yes. I always listen to music whenever I can, and just get into
listening to the music way too much. I could spend less time on stuff,
but I just don't care enough. Just a few minutes ago, I was studying for
a test, and _Leave It_ (Yes) came on the radio. While I did resist the
temptation to blast it (being 2am and all), I did just stop what I was
doing and sit there. Writing an English essay with Counterparts in...

> Thanks for letting me indulge.........
> 					Partha
lets see... to rap up (kind of) I *LOVED* the country music album titles,
and sent them off to many friends. The album joke about the 64min song
and the tour of Toronto and Western New York (or something like that) was
also forwarded...

to finally end... YKYARFW...

1. You quote Rush in your English papers, w/o any real reason
2. You write a Pascal program, using Rush songs for variables, and 2112 for
an arbitrary constant
3. You know what that anacronym means :)
4. You figure that you and your roommate will get along when you see
_Moving Pictures_ and _Chronicles_ in his collection
5. You thought Paula Abdul (shudder) was singing "Rush... Rush..." and
thought that maybe she might be ok
[note: this was a joke, don't mean to offend anyone]
6. You are reading/posting to  TNMS when you are supposed to be studying
for a MSE midterm that you have in a few hours (bad John, bad bad John)

I need to go...
                                Boo-ba Fett - aka John Haveman
       "You can change perceptions, reality won't budge"
                           - Neil Peart / Show Don't Tell
           -         -         -        -          -
       "                                               "
			   - No One / La Villa Strangiato


Subject: Hair!!
From: (Phil Schmidt)
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 12:23:16 +0000

I've read quite a few comments from some RUSH fans in the NMS that feel
hair length and being a RUSH fan go hand in hand.  Excuse me but I have all
their CDs and even quite a few Albums (Remember those vinyl things?) and I
have SHORT SHORT hair.  Besides, Alex and Neil both have fairly short hair

Phil Schmidt
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 95 14:47:30 GMT
From: (David Muir)
Subject: C&W album and the humour impaired.

In NMS #1064, Mike Cavnar says...

>for whoever did that thing about the coming country album, that was pretty
>cruel to us gullible people who you could tell that aliens landed on the roof
>and we'd believe ya

Haven't you heard Mike? They have taken the word "gullible" out of the
latest edition of the Oxford English Dictionary.


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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 11:09:15 -0500 (EST)
From: kevin eugene mort 
Subject: The usual awards type stuff

Well, once again our dear Rush has not won an award for best instrumental.
To this I say, oh well.  That is because I know that the others who were
nominated are equally as good as Rush.  Floyd's instrumental simply kicks
ass.  There is nothing more to it.  We know how good Rush is, and we
know that they never have been much on the way of awards.  So, while we
can be a bit miffed at the fact that they didn't win, let's not harp on
it too much..after all we are simply preaching to the converted.


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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 11:09:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 03/02/95 - The National Midnight Star #1062

Jon mentioned a "Rush-bashing syndrome" that I am quite familiar with.  It
would invariably come from those friends of mine who liked bands with
names like "Snoopy the dog," "Bippity-Bop Crap Music For People With NO
Taste," or "Just Plain Crap." (You mean you've never heard of those bands --
they were very big in the '80's!)

Occasionally, though, I get a similar response from people whose opinions I
actually respect, and this troubles me quite a bit more.  I have gottne
responses such as "Rush has no soul" or "Those guys are so pretentious."
At first such comments just infuriated me, and tended to elicit nothing
more than incoherent rage and violence.  But then I realized that such
a reaction only lends credence to these moron's (oops -- sorry, I slipped)
comments.  So I've thought about this a long time, and here's what I've
come up with:

I think it has something to do with the fact that we are all so completely
consumed by our love of this band that we sometimes lose our objectivity.
I mean, Rush IS just a band (albeit the best band ever), and not everyone
is going to like them.  A diamond shines all the brighter when it's
surrounded by crap.  I think also that sometimes our rabid devotion to this
band scares people just a little -- it tends to induce backlash, similar
to what Deadheads experience (relax! I'm not comparing us to Deadheads,
but we are similarly devoted to our respective bands).

Another thing I've noticed is that this criticism almost always comes from
people only familiar with one particular period, album or song from Rush, and
that they usually don't have any idea Rush wrote "slow songs" or that they
can rap, or that many times they are even funky.  In many cases, what we
need to do is educate these people -- most such negative comments stem
from ignorance, and, contrary to popular belief, most people will learn
if you give them the chance.

Sorry for the length of this, but I am that most deadly of combinations:
An English grad. student/writer/Rush fan/musician, which tends to lead
to verbosity!  (BTW, any flames, please e-mail me direct!)



Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 10:42:46 CST
Subject: Studying to Rush

     I don't remember who posted this, but I understand completely what
he/she means.  I used to be able to study to Rush when I was first getting
into them, but the more I listen to them, the more impossible it is.  I
used to be able to halfway study to everything, then just Rush and COS.
Now I can't even do that.  Oh, well, maybe it's better that way.  That
way I can say that I don't listen to Rush ALL the time.  Just 99.4% of
the time.
     Ditto to the YKYARFW you use only Pert Plus.

YKYARFW your bowling team is named The Dark Lords of Syrinx.
        Your license plate is BRCHETA
        You have nothing better to do than come up with these things.
        When every class you sit in and every show you watch reminds
you of a Rush song.

Need I continue?


1st person:  I guess Geddy just has a voice that has to grow on you.
2nd person:  Yeah, like a fungus.
1st person bangs her head against a wall and groans.


From: Sylvia Smith (Bowser) 
Date: Thu,  9 Mar 95 09:01:05 PST
Subject: Just some stuff....

Hello All!!

>From: Partha Mukhopadhyay 

>Now, for the complaint....I am a college student and one of my (many)
>vices is that I need to have some music on while studying.....with other
>fave groups (Scorpions, Queensryche, DT, Mozart) I have no problems.  As
>much as I like the music, I can ignore it. IT just doesn't work with
>Rush....I find myself singing along, and can't concentrate on the
>material I'm looking at.....It's a problem of the band being too
>good to ignore, even for a few minutes........
>Just curious, anyone else, college types or otherwise, find themselves
>totally ignoring the stuff they have to do, the stuff with an all too near
>deadline, just because of a Rush song playing nearby?

       I do this all the time and not just with Rush songs.  If a song
I really like comes on the radio I stop and start singing or
daydreaming.  Unfortunately this also happens with a few songs I don't
like.  Songs I know all the words to because I've heard them so much.

>From: puanani@wana.pbrc.Hawaii.Edu (Puanani Akaka)

> I remember when I was younger, I thought the first
>line of Tom Sawyer was,  "Monday warrior...".  I thought, "wow.  how
>profound.  Wonder what it means.  What book is it from?"  uh-huh.  yeah.
>try ask Neil, sometime.  I'm sure he'd wonder, too...  :-)

	Are you saying it doesn't start that way??!!  Until you wrote that I
thought it was sung that way!!   Ack!  Fooled all these years.   ;)

   On another note.  Does anyone know if we are going to be able to see
what the Rush book looks like and read it's contents??  I don't
remember if this was covered or not.  It would be really cool to  see
some of the things people said to the band.   We could just take off
the names if anyone was worried about privacy.    Well that's it for me
(for now) I suppose I should go look like I'm working or something.



Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 12:09:27 -0500
From: Greg Rumpff 
Subject: Not a real fan....

To Michael H. : I guess you're just not a real fan either ;) j/k....Liked
what you had to say. People don't have to agree with us 100% in order to be
fans. But in defense of a few of the posters, I will have to say that the
person who posted the original "These songs are hust filler..." post (forget
the name) was asking for it with his somewhat sarcastic comments song by song.
   NP:Silence....I can't stand it! 
                             Greg Rumpff (
                                 "Add Some Music to Your Day"


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 13:26:38 -0500
From: (Shahid Murtuza)
Subject: America OnLine results?


  I remember a few weeks back that some dude from Atlantic Records was
going to be on America On-Line near the end of February.  The person that
posted about it said that we'd know about TNA (the new album) as a result.
Did anyone get any useful information from America On-Line?

  You know you're a Rush fan when your kids get in trouble at school
because they're always yelling "Show me, don't tell me!" during Show &

 -Shahid Murtuza
 Analog Kid
"The head of the thing was large and ragged
 looking and topped by a sort of smooth, rounded
 shape.  I smelled a faint, sweetish odor.
 Bananas.  I realized that I was looking at an
 orangutan wearing a raincoat and a beret."


Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 13:22:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Lifeson solo album?


I was reading the latest issue of Island Ear, a local entertainment paper, and
something totally took me by surprise.  The following is taken from an
interview with Sebastian Bach (singer of Skid Row):

	As the conversation runs down on the allotted time, I ask Bach if the
	green grass of a solo album beckons?  Solo album, yes, solo career, no.
	"I'm thinkin' about doing a solo album, I just did some recording with
	(ex-Hanoi Rocks') Andy McCoy and I did a song on Alex Lifeson's (Rush
	guitarist) solo album and that was a total honor.  I liked working
	with different people, it was a great experience."

Woah!!  This is the first I've heard of Alex putting out a solo album!  Does
anyone know anything about this?  I suppose this could just be the track Alex
is contributing to that guitar compilation CD, but he did say *solo album.*
With Geddy wanting to be with his family, well, it almost sounds feasible.
Can't wait for more info...

Andy Acunzo


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 95 09:09:36 HST
From: puanani@wana.pbrc.Hawaii.Edu (Puanani Akaka)
Subject: READ!!  NMS Book to Rush


Listen up, gang!!  Due to popular demand, the deadline for entries into
the NMS Book to Rush has been EXTENDED!!  We are accepting submissions
until MARCH 17.  So for those who missed it the first time around, NOW'S
YOUR CHANCE!  You, too, can submit your personal message to Rush!  The
submissions we've gotten so far have been great!  We've got poems, simple
messages, and personal anecdotes.  But we'd like MORE!!!

We'd especially like to encourage our OVERSEAS cousins to submit, too.
and more of EUROPE represented!!  It'd be nice to give this puppy a REAL

  Remember, this book is going towards celebrating RUSH'S 20th ANNIVERSARY.

These messages WILL be published into a book and given to Rush.  Below
is a list of the guidelines for the entries.  We will have several people
screening the messages to help with the publishing process.  I must add
that these guidelines will be STRICTLY enforced, so keep them in mind
when composing your message.

so, C'mon folks!  Send in your entries!!   Kim Garner (of Anthem Records)
thought this a great idea, something RUSH would really appreciate.  And
a unique contribution to RUSH HISTORY.  So be a part of that Rush history,
celebrate their 20TH ANNIVERSARY, and send in those entries!!!

Submission guidelines:

	- Maximum length is 150 words (1/4 page)
	- Pairs or groups of people may team up for one message, but
 	     maximum length remains 150 words
	- May NOT submit more than one (1) entry per person/group
	- All entries MUST be in English OR be accompanied by English
 	     translation (in the case of translations, both the
	     non-English entry and the translation will be included
	     in the book)
	- PLEASE spell/grammar check all entries.  Any entries radically
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	       * Entries using non-Standard English for specific use (e.g.,
 		   odd spellings to create humour)
	- No proclamations of divinity or undying love will be accepted
        - Contributors should not expect personal replies from band members
	- Poems and humorous (not sarcastic!) entries are encouraged,
             with the exception of song parodies
	- Please include names of all authors of a message and home states
	     or countries
        - Entries which are rejected will be returned to sender and must
             be resubmitted. Resubmitted entries must indicate that they
             are resubmissions or will be rejected as multiple entries.
             There is no guarantee that resubmissions will make the book,
             so follow the above guidelines *very* carefully.
	- Entries by EVERYONE are encouraged!!  So, make it unique, make
	     it from the heart, but most of all -- make it from *you*

Send your submissions to:
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 11:50:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Andrew Harris 
Subject: Re: Opening Bands

Someone was talking about opening bands a while ago, and I just thought
I'd pitch in my 2 cents.

The Melvyns opened for Rush in Sacramento on the Counterparts tour, and
they were the worst act I'd ever seen.  Seeing them gave me sincere hope
that maybe I could open for Rush someday.  I don't know what happened to
Candlebox, does any one else?  Didn't they open for Rush in other cities?

Incidentally, I don't know how good the Melvyns studio albums are,
because I've never been inspired to listen to one.  My point is that
they sucked live.


p.s.  If there's any other Rush-inspired Musicians at UC Davis, E-mail me!


Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 14:56:45 -0500 (EST)
From: "NAME \"Matt Raillard\"" 
Subject: 2112, yes or no?

Hey there all--
I was really glad to read Patricia Evans' post about Rush's future music
direction.  It is true that all fans have different tastes or favorite
songs, and Rush cannot possibly please them all in a concert.  It seems
as if the song/album in question was the epic 2112; well as I posted
previously, I love the album and the song, but IMHO the OTHER songs
on the disc make it a winner.  Just goes to show you how we Rush fans are
all different.  Also goes to show you why Rush plays such a wide array of
songs in most concerts, from Cold Fire to YYZ etc.  I also like the point
she made about how Rush is not driven by its fans, rather I admit we follow
Rush because we love their music.  Anyhow, on a lighter note YKYRARF when:
 --you wake up every morning with a different Rush song in your head (happens..)
 --you named your cat Rocinante
Matt Raillard
"I feel the way you would....."


Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 14:46:22 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Question

	Eddie from St. Thomas in St. Paul here.  I was wondering if you knew
if Geddy sang background vocals on Amy Mann's song for the Melrose Place
soundtrack?  It sounds like him towards the end of the song.  The inside
jacket of the CD single doesn't metion his name.  Just curious.

					Thanks, EDDIE


From: Brian Costanza 
Subject: Re:Neil and Buddy
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 95 16:35:45 536913400

I meant to say that Neil was on tape THREE also...woops..

"I'm not going to butcher my music just so I can be the flavor of the month."
				-Eddie Van Halen on doing MTV Unplugged


Date: 09 Mar 95 17:09:44 EST
Subject: CoS

  During lunch, I finally bought CoS on CD today (I have the dont
  flame me :-).  I must admit that I was disappointed that  *no* liner
  notes or lyrics (tho I expected not to get the lyrics) came with it :-((
  I was looking at the album cover, wondering what was going on.  I once
  read that some1 felt that it was about the Necromancer.  But IMHO I think
  its about The Fountain.  One of the songs mentioned walking up stairs,
  there are stairs in the lower area of the picture.  The guy in the
  picture looks kinda old too.  I looked at the metallic looking triangular
  object, and tried to match it to a lyric on the album...or to *any* Rush
  album :-)  What came to my mind was:  "The Sign of Eth is rising in the
  air"...I think thats from Bytor..not sure.  I thought of that line
  because the object appears to be moving into the air.  I used the
  thesaurus of MS-Word (version 6.0a for you techies :-)) and looked up
  "Eth", and some of the results were: eternal life, eternalize,
  eternity...which fits theme of The Fountain quite well.  Therefore  the
  old man had a brief touch (caress) of eternity (steel, or the sign of Eth
  in this case) which startled him as it rose.  Any opinions? :-)

  One more thing, why isn't the song "I think I'm going bald" on the
  Fountain...for its a part of life..that is for most men :-)  I thought
  the audio tape was in that order due to time constraints on the tape

  Travis Hayden
  Arthur Andersen & CO, SC


Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 15:26:26 -0700 (MST)
Subject: You know you're a Rush fan when . . .

	You know you're a Rush fan when you know a foreign language and
you try to translate the lyrics and make them fit with the music.

It's really hard!

"El patron de la luz en el suelo del cuarto es un fuego frio"


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 17:53:22 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jay E. Scott" 
Subject: Re: Barenaked Ladies

Yes, yes, yes, good Lord, I know!  I goofed.  Both bits of Tom Sawyer and
Spirit Of Radio DO appear in the song.  Thanks to Matthew who let me
know, in no uncertain terms, that I committed a boner.  (Uh huh huh...he
said...)  As someone who owns both Gordon and Maybe You Should Drive, in
addition to the indie EP (on CD no less, minus Fight The Power) and
whatever assorted rarities I can get my hands on, AND as someone who has
seen the Ladies twice in concert (they don't get around here much) AND
had the occasion to meet them, I feel a bloody fool.  I've been humbled.
Please forgive me (that was NOT a reference to another Canadian artist!).

Sobbing uncontrollably,


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 17:06:02 -0600
Subject: random stuff

Just a few random thoughts/responses...

Andy Logue asked...

>p.s. Am I the only one that thinks 'Before and After' from the first album
>     is a cool tune?

	No, I think it's probably the best track on the album.  Sorry, it's
	just not my favorite album.  I don't think I even have one!  They're
	all good for different reasons, even the less popular ones, such as
	_Caress of Steel_.

Dino the hog-loving dinosaur noted...

>My wife, best friend and his wife just recently saw the Eagles in Memphis.
>There were four young women behind us who spent half the evening whooping it
>up, yelling, and carrying on like idiots. My wife (who's pretty tiny and
>usually very reserved) finally had enough and tore into them. They got quiet
>for awhile, but eventually returned to the same behavior. When the band
>stopped for a short intermission, I felt compelled to give them a "your rights
>end where mine begin" lecture. THE PURPOSE IN ATTENDING A ROCK CONCERT IS TO
>sounds like a soapbox, but I just felf (sorry- felt) like this had to be said.
>If you don't like a particular band, either do something (like go to the
>concession stand) during their set, or don't go to the show at all.

	Amen, brother!  I'm a little older than the average concert goer (with
	the gap widening as we speak!  :-))  The one annoying concert I
	remember most is when I saw Boston in 1987, either in Worcester or
	Hartford, and I was lucky enough to be seated in front of a gaggle (or
	whatever you call it) of 13-year-old girls who saw fit to shriek every
	time they recognized a song, then sing along in that shrill voice that
	I'm sure everyone can picture in their heads.  Not the best musical
	experience in my life.  Fortunately, I think the most annoying thing
	I can think of that happened at a Rush show I've been to (seven, so
	far) is that the people sitting in front of me won't sit down when
	things start to settle down.  Not a big deal, really; much better
	than the Boston show!  That should be a testament to the courtesy of
	Rush fans...keep up the good work!

>Hey Chris-- I, too, listen to Yes, although I much prefer their older
>stuff from "The Yes Album," "Fragile," etc. Never heard of King Crimson? Are
>you kidding? One of the all-time classic rock songs is "In the Court of the
>Crimson King!"

	Me, too.  The "newer" KC is pretty good, too.  I hear it used as filler
	space sometimes on NPR...scary!

Phil Zinn was curious...

>Lets do a reader's poll of you guys' or gals' 2nd favorite band.

	Don't have a favorite...but others keep getting played more than
	others...such as Concrete Blonde, Sugar, Dire Straits, Who, King
	Crimson, Richard Thompson, Bill Bruford, Moodies, Genesis...

And Garrett Young made a list of drummers on the BfB project...

>Kenny Aronoff
	John Mellencamp
>Bill Bruford
	Everybody (Genesis, King Crimson, Yes, solo)
>Bill Cobham
	Mahavishnu Orchestra, solo
>Steve Smith
	Journey, Vital Information

	At least those are the ones I can fill in!

And to all who have responded to my query about MoFi discs...thanks!  Keep
'em coming; one of these days I may just bite the bullet and buy one of 'em
when my wife isn't looking!

Sorry for the length!

Scott M. Rochette				(314) 977-3133 (voice)
Department of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences	(314) 977-3117 (fax)
Saint Louis University (Internet)
"Some world views are spacious, and some are merely spaced."
				    		    Neil Peart
Disclaimer:  Opinions expressed are my own; I don't speak for the Department
             or for SLU, nor do they speak for me.  Nor would I want to.


Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 17:51 EST
Subject: Wow!  I found something cool!

Form: Memo
Text: (20 lines follow)
>From By-Tor's doghouse

I was driving home from work today around 1645, and the 4 radio stations I
normally listen to were playing either commercials or some off the wall
weird song.  Soooo, I started radio station surfing.  I stumbled upon 101.5
(pleeeease don't ask me the call letters...if I remember right, they are
WCWT, but don't hold me to it!)...  They were playing a cool song (can't
remember what it was because what they played next made me almost faint!),
so I left the station there.  Well, GUESS what they played next?!  XANADU!!!
 And it was the LIVE version off of ESL even!  Maaaaaaan, I was in seventh
heaven!!!  I must say, I have added this radio station to one of my FM
presets in my car!  I urge anyone in or around south Dayton (Ohio) to listen
to 101.5!  Hey, any radio station that plays Xanadu has MY vote for
cool-dom!    Wow...Ok, I'm going to go eat dinner now!  I just
had to let you all know what I found!  I'm so happy!  WOO HOO!  :)

Holly Smith
Information Systems Analyst (and confirmed Rush-fanatic)
* If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice... *
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From: Sylvia Smith (Bowser) 
Date: Thu,  9 Mar 95 15:40:01 PST
Subject: Between the Sun and Mood  Poem

     Where do I look to find back issues of TNMS??   Or if some kind
soul would just send me the poem that is said to have inspired Between
the Sun and Moon.    I have someone that would like to see it and I
can't find it.




Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 18:58:15 -0500
Subject: lurking et al.

Hello all, I've been lurking for about six months, I tried to post once
before, but it never showed up, so here's another go round...

obligatory bio: I'm 30 and have been a fan since 78 or 79 when I first heard
"Closer To The Heart".  I've caught every tour since the MP one and I'm
always amazed at how The Boys just keep getting better.

A previous poster asked about the three Gold disks.  I've got them all, and
think they're all worth the dough.   But I do think that Signals & MP were
the greatest beneficiaries of the remix process.  I'm really hoping for Gold
(or at least remastered) of Hemispheres and PeW.

I'd really love to see "Presto" and "Kid Gloves" live on the next
tour...maybe an impossible dream, but I still hope.

You root for the "shots on goal" counter at a hockey game to get to 21:12

You flip through all the cd's in the Rush bin, even though you have them all,
and imagine how much fun it would be to buy them again.   (I know, sad, but
what can I say)

Sorry for the length and thanks for reading!
Eric Martin ""

PS.  That post about the band "Echolyn" is right on, these guys are
tremendous.  I think their sound is a bit more like Kansas or old (pre Steve
Hackett leaving) Genesis than Rush,   But since the aforementioned are 3 of
my faves, I'm not complaining.


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 19:27:46 -0500
Subject: Rush CD Video, YKYARFW

Hello again fellow Rushians!

>From time to time I see people looking for Rush memorabilia and placing their
want listings on the Star here.  Well, I'm not looking for to buy anything,
per se, but I am looking for a good home for a Rush CD Video ("The Big
Money") that I've had for quite awhile, but have only been able to listen to
the audio tracks (like live "Red Sector A").

So I thought I might as well see if I can sell it through here, since that
way I know it will stay in the hands of a Rush fan.  I'm NOT looking to make
a pot of money off of it, so if anyone out there is interested email me
direct at and we can hash out the details that way.  (First
email, first serve)

Also, those "YKYARFW"s keep tickling my funny bone, how 'bout this...

You know you're a Rush fan when...

"Rush hour" is your favorite time of day to drive.

'Till the next Rush album...

"She said this is not a love song,
This isn't fantasy land..."


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 17:14:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Alistair Manuel Lizaranzu 
Subject: Re: 02/22/95 - The National Midnight Star #1058

Hello, folks :

This is my first correspondence to TNMS. I very seldom have time to read
any of the e-mail that comes my way, but on one ocassion I had an hour to
burn, and read the 2/22/95 TNMS mail. In it I found some comments which
moved me enough to force a reply out of me, so here it goes :

  (a) Ron Bratis - when I was in high school back in '81, I used to spend
most of my time in class writting the lyrics to songs like The Trees,
Xanadu, Limelight, Natural Science, A Farewell to Kings, and In The End,
amongst others. At that point in time, I got more about the world around
me and my place in it from those songs than I did from my clases. School
is great and necessary, but sometimes the world of a youngster needs more
inspiration and less discipline.......
  (b) Arvid Hokanson - while I agree with you that Rush is a phenomenal
band which has no peers, I dont think anything is won by ridiculing Ms
Tori Amos, Ms Sara Mclaughlin, or Concrete Blonde. These artists/bands do
deserve credit, and at a very minimum deserve respect, as well as the
fans who listen to their music.
  (c) Aaron - on the subject of Rush fillers, I must admit I'm as
offended as fans of Tori Amos and Sara Mclaughlin must be to Mr.
Hokanson's remarks. Your comments are absurd, and for your information,
I'm one of quite a number of individuals who feel that all those songs
you mentioned cannot possibly be improved. As I stated before, Rush is a
band which has no peers.
  (d) You know you are a Rush fan when you make a statement like this :
Rush is not Rush until it's all you are holding on to (a great example of
plagiarism, but a true statement none the less!)

  And one last comment for you all out there: please keep in mind one of
my favourite sayings when stating your opinion in public,

     Opinions are like assholes : we all have one !

Flame me if you must,



Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 20:22:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Paul Ackley 
Subject: My Comments

This is my first post!  I have been a Rush fan since the power windows tour!
Since getting the NMS I have notice that quite a few of you are pretty
down on Rush Limbaugh?  I personly think the man is great (my opinion)!

I think that Neil would probably like Rush Limbaugh, and agree with many
(not all) of hiw opinions.  I once hear Rush Limbaugh advise a caller to
read any of Ayan Rands books, that they were very good.  I know that Neil
is a fan of Ayan Rand's books.

I have heard Rush Limbaugh play Bravado on his show.

Wonder what Rush Limbaugh thinks of Rush (the band)?

Just thought I'd chime in.

Paul Ackley


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 21:16:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael E Brindamour 
Subject: Re: 03/09/95 - The National Midnight Star #1066

Hi, This is not a flame, just a clarification:

>>reality check...what are the odds that
>>Neil, Ged, and Alex (who has the only last name you can spell with the
>>elements on the periodic table--Lithium + Iron + Sulfur + Oxygen +
>>Nitrogen) are going to release a country album...come on, people...

>Isn't this missing some letters???  The only point I can see to this is
>that, as misspelled (sp.?) LISON is the only last name without an "E."
>But, the periodic table has several elements which begin with the letter
>"E" (Aaron apparently you forgot about the Lanthanide which has Europium,
>and Erbium and the Actinide series which has Einsteinium.

I'm just pointing out that what the origional meant was that the symbols
for the elements on the periodic tables spelled LIFESON.
Lithium= LI
Iron= FE
Sulfer= S
Oxygen= O
Nitrogen= N    Therefore LI+FE+S+O+N = LIFESON

Granted, by using just the first letters of any group of elements you can
spell almost anything, but the idea was that the symbols did.  I just
checked, you can't, however, spell Lee or Peart using symbols.
This is NOT a flame... just a clarification for the people who thought
the origional poster meant to use first letters.
	See ya on the DREAMLINE!!

* We sometimes catch a window, A glimpse of what's beyond.     *
* Was it just imagination, Stringing us along?                 *
* More things than we dreamed about, Unseen and unexplained.   *
* We suspend our disbelief, and we are entertained--           *
*****************************************From "Mystic Rythms"  *
*Michael Brindamour-  *1995 Delta Class *        By RUSH       *
* * Kappa Kappa Psi ************************


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 20:57:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Atul Kapur 
Subject: Re: 03/08/95 - The National Midnight Star #1065

Jim Heuser wrote,

> YKYARFW: You use "Pert" shampoo exclusively.

Especially if you pronounce it "Peert" like Neil's last name.

Atul Kapur, Resident           E-Mail: Atul_Kapur@UManitoba.Ca
Emergency Medicine             "Everybody got to deviate
University of Manitoba          from the norm"--N. Peart, RUSH


Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 21:06:06 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Children of Rush

Rush children -

	- Geddy has a son and a new baby daughter 
	- Neil has a daughter 
	- Alex has two sons

	I'm not sure on the ages, but I know Alex's oldest son is a little
older than me and I'm 21.  All the other family members are younger than
me...that I'm sure of.  If you go to the Orbit Room in Toronto you may
catch a glimpse of Alex's oldest kid.  (Maybe even Lerxst himself!)

*         "All my life they said I was going down,
*          But I'm still standing, stronger, proud.
*          And today I know there's so much more I can be."
*             - Someone Else? -  Queensryche 1994
*        *** Always interested in trading Kansas shows ***
*           Steve Smits


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 23:32:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay 
Subject: ....and some Rush stuff

Sorry 'bout that total non-Rush post, I just decided to split this in two
It's about _2112_, and the struggle between the protagonist (Does he have
a name?) and the priests (rather one-sided)....based on the music/lyrics
(kid=soothing, nice; Priests=harsh,arrogant) it seems we are supposed to
cheer for good 'ol whatshisname....but, if only for the fact that I like:
I) Overture and II) Temples of Syrinx better than iii) Discovery and
vi) Soliloquy, I find myself uplifted by the kid's downfall....
maybe that's a bit harsh.....I feel little sympathy for the protagonist
 ......anyone agree?
And no, I'm NOT A SOCIALIST, i just the priests' music better, that's all
A few more questions:
A) Is it two-one-one-two, or twenty-one--twelve?
B) is the *other*  National Midnight Star real? If not, which Canadian TV
show does the FAQ refer to?  (and BTW, here in Michigan, we get CBC just
fine, but I still don't know which show.....I watch Hockey Night in
Canada regularly......GO RED WINGS)  Talk about a
last thing, a YKYARF that I hope hasn't been done before:

YKYARF when, every time you see a fire hydrant, you start looking around
for that dog................. PARTHA


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 23:33:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay 
Subject: Echolyn show....

about the titles, I mailed them in the wrong order

Before Tuesday, I'd never heard any Echolyn music, but I went out to
their Ann Arbor show, and to describe how glad I was that I did would
take waaaaaaay too long....briefly, there is a very good reason Echolyn is
the first prog band to be signed to a malor label (Sony) in years....they
have music that pleased me, a guy with a Rush/Dream Theater/Queensryche
background, and also left a friend with a Yes/ King Crimson/Rush
background drooling.....It was just an amazing show, and I highly
recommend a) going to see them live, b) buying their album, which John
Subj:  #3(3) 03/17/95 - The National Midnight Star #1069
Date:  Fri, Mar 17, 1995 5:56 PM CST

Mail Split By Gateway

------- cut here --------
Santore mentioned *very* favorably in TMNS bands,
especially ones as good as this need all the support we can give them......
P.S.-if you see 'em live, you get a sampler + coupon for the album....I
just used mine and can't wait to get home and hear "As the World"


Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 22:43:16 -0600 (CST)
From: Sulring Durgul 
Subject: Re: 03/09/95 - The National Midnight Star #1066

In 1066 wrote that he couldn't tell how Lithium + Iron +
Sulfur + Oxygen + Nitrogen spelled out Lifeson. Well, connect the atomic
symbols: Li + Fe + S + O + N. Bingo!


May my pet Creetox come along for the ride?


From: Analog Kid 
Subject: Peiodicity
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 23:58:46 -0500 (EST)

Hello everyone,

	This is my first posting -- I've been a Rush fan for about 5 years
and a subscriber for a few weeks.  I'd like to clear something up
concerning Russell D. Taylor's post (TNMS #1066), if I may.  Sure, you can
spell Lee, Lifeson, and Peart with the *first* letters of elements in the
periodic table, but Lifeson is the only name you can spell using the
proper IUPAC abbreviations for lithium (Li), iron (Fe), Sulfur (S), oxygen
(O), and nitrogen (N).  I believe that was the original intention.
	That matter aside, I'd like to share a brief story: in April, I
was in Italy for ten days with my Latin class.  We were due to arrive back
in the States on Sunday the 24th, the same day Rush was playing the
Hartford Civic Center.  Of course, I had no intention of missing the show.
 We flew out of Milan at on the morning of the 24th, arrived at JFK around
2:00 in the afternoon, and left for Connecticut shortly after that.  I was
biting my nails the whole way home -- I didn't want to miss any of the
show!  Well, needless to say, I made it there with time to spare, and
caught an incredible show.  On the whole, it was undoubtedly one of the
best days of my life.  Of course, I had jet lag for the rest of the week,
but it was a small price to pay for the thrill of seeing the boys in concert.
	Oh well, I've rambled on long enough.  I hope at least someone
found this story mildly exciting.  Until next time...



Subject: Temples of "THE" Syrinx - St. Louis 1980 Bootleg
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 95 00:01:48 EST

Well, now that I have everyone high on stress because I got the name of
the song wrong...hear ye, hear ye.  Yes, I know it is not Temples of THE
Syrinx, but rather Temples of Syrinx.  Let's move on shall we.

My question is about a bootleg recoridng I own called Temples of the
Syrinx, a live recording from St. Louis in 1980.  The songs it contains
are the 2112 Overture and Temples, Natural Science, La Villa, In the
Mood, and something called More??!!??  Wow sounds like a Ronco add.  And
much much more!!!  I believe the MORE refers to a drum solo by Neil.  IT
seems that I may have seen this recording mentioned in the FAQ once, but
I don't recall for sure right now.  Anyway, you are all wondering what
my questions are.  Let's begin...

1. The album is copyright 1988 by LEE Music, Ltd. out of Toronto.  Does
anyone know if this Lee Music is related to one Geddy Lee?

2. If you own this album, and I do mean vinyl, (remember that), just
prior to Neil's solo, Geddy says "Okay kids, it's time for
Doctor ______________."  Can you fill in the blank for me.  I have never
been able to figure out what he calls Neil.

3. There is one spot in the middle of In the Mood, when Geddy says,
"Alright St. Louis, let me see all your hands".  That's the only proof
that this is from St. Louis.  You don't by chance think Geddy sat in a
studio one day and just recorded different city names and they dubbed
them in on a lot of different albums do ya?!?!

       "Alright Cleveland...."
       "Alright Chicago...."
       "Alright Detroit..."
       "Alright Dubuque..."

Okay, well maybe not Dubuque!

And finally YKYAARF when you find out what hotel the band is staying at
during the P/G and you bake a cake and frost it with the circle/star and
put happy 10th on it.

I am not making this up!  Too bad the icing melted in the humid St.
Louis summer.  They never got it, but we did meet the band.  Aaahhh, the
joys of adolescence.


Rob Burns
You feel there's something calling you
You're wanting to return
To where thie misty mountains rise
And friendsly fires burn



Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 23:36:44 -0700 (MST)
From: Boo-ba Fett 
Subject: Periodic Table

>Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 14:04:25 -0600
>From: (Russell D Taylor)
>Subject: Reality Check...Aaron White's Post and other stuff
>Fellow Rush Fans,
>Sorry in advance.  This is a flame (well at least partially)!

>>Neil, Ged, and Alex (who has the only last name you can spell with the
>>elements on the periodic table--Lithium + Iron + Sulfur + Oxygen +

>Isn't this missing some letters???  The only point I can see to this is
>that, as misspelled (sp.?) LISON is the only last name without an "E."
>But, the periodic table has several elements which begin with the letter
>"E" (Aaron apparently you forgot about the Lanthanide which has Europium,
>and Erbium and the Actinide series which has Einsteinium. The upshot of all
>this is that the last names (i.e. stage names: Alex's real last name has a
>J in it) of all the band members can be spelled using elements of the
>periodic table:

Actually, no. He is using the symbols of the elements.
Lithium=Li, Iron=Fe, Sulfur=S, Oxygen=O, Nitrogen=N
which together gives LiFeSON.

                                Boo-ba Fett - aka John Haveman
       "You can change perceptions, reality won't budge"
                           - Neil Peart / Show Don't Tell
           -         -         -        -          -
       "                                               "
			   - No One / La Villa Strangiato


From: (Stefan Roberts)
Subject: Seems to me it's Chemistry
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 95 1:51:43 MST

Per the last NMS:
You CAN spell Lerxt's surname (the band version of course :) with the
periodic table if you use a little Chemistry (electricity, biology, etc) -

Li    -    Fe    -     S     -    O    -     N
(lithium)   (iron)     (sulphur)  (oxygen)   (nitrogen)

Lee and Peart are somewhat more troublesome, unfortunately (maybe THEY'RE
the electicity and biology, and Lerxt is the chemistry .... nah.)

See you folks later,
Stef  aka new guy


Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 11:39:00 +0100
From: LARS BROBERG              H101 
Subject: Sweden?

I don't know if they are coming to Sweden in the near future,
but they were here in -79 and played in Stockholm (Groena Lund)
and in Gothenburg (Concert House).

If you live in Sweden, as I do, you have to travel to see Rush.

Me and my brother went to London in -92 on the Roll the bones
tour. Need I say that they were GREAT(?).
Primus were opening for them. (Pretty good bassist)

So long...



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