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         The National Midnight Star, Number 1087

                 Thursday, 20 April 1995
Today's Topics:
                     NMS 1083/Boot Cd
                2112/Something for Nothing
                    A Cool place. Not!
                More Philosophical Debate
                    unorthodox playing
   who really wrote Tom Sawyer and Closer to the Heart
                      Sightings. . .
                  Re: No racists allowed
              Hockey 2112; some other stuff
                 re: misunderstood lyrics
     Re: 04/04/95 - The National Midnight Star #1082
             Favorite Listening Environments
               Hitler, Geddy and the Trees
                  What are the chances?
                    more on the Trees
                    Roll the Swastika
                Limelight solo--the best??
                   Misunderstood Lyrics
                      Tribute bands
                   Favorite bass lines
             type of ride cymbal used by Neil
                       BMG numbers
                        Alex gear
              First posting incl. reflection
        Greetings all and...Pete...Where are you?
                   Hmm, been a while...
                Matt  Re: Bridge of Sighs
                  Re:  Progressive Rock?
                       Binary Stuff
                      Fiat Barchetta
             Re: #3(3) 04/10/95 - The Nati...
             Rush Lit. Allusions... last call
                       first entry
               addition to previous letter.
               Rush Tribute Album Wish List
                    Rush items wanted

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:11:54 -0500
From: Mike Bruneau 
Subject: NMS 1083/Boot Cd

To the person who thought that the names of Talbot and Dubois were just named
of buddies that the person stuck on the CD....YOU'RE WAY WRONG!!

Pierre (sp?) Dubois not only wrote Tom Saweryer with Rush, but also wrote
"Superconducter" off of PRESTO, and "Between Sun and Moon" off of

   [ I believe you mean Pye Dubois...                         : rush-mgr ]

Dubois is a really good friend of Neil Pearts....refer to the Counterparts
inworld premiere interview from October of 1993.

As for Talbot, I know that he wrote "Closer to the Heart" with the boys, but
nothing else that i can tell...

Just wanted to clear this up!!!!

Mike Bruneua


Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 16:47:30 -0400
Subject: 2112/Something for Nothing

Hello all...

I know that everone here is interested in lyrics, and was wondering if anyone
here had an opinion on the reference to 2112 (can't say if it was on purpose
on not...)

"The sleep is still in my eyes
The dream is still in my head
I heave a sigh and sadly smile
And lie a while in bed
I wish that it might come to pass
Not fade like all my dreams

Just think of what my life might be
In a world like I have seen
I don't think I can carry on
Carry on this cold and empty life

My spirits are low in the depths of despair
My lifeblood spills over.." -2112


"Waiting for someone to call
And turn your world around
Looking for an answer to
The question you have found
Looking for
An open door

No, You don't get something for nothing
You can't have freedom for free
You won't get wise
With the sleep still in your eyes
No matter what your dreams might be"-Something For Nothing

(lyrics taken from ftp at, any problems with them sould
therefore be addressed to the authors of this file)

The quote  "You won't get wise / With the sleep still in your eyes / No
matter what your dreams might be" seems very relevent to the actions in 2112
  I am very interested in comment either on this forum or at   or


Date: 07 Apr 95 16:52:36 EDT
From: Henrik Hallgren <>
Subject: Rush-boots?

Hi all Rush-fans out there!
I'm a Rush-fan from Sweden who really like to read TNMS,(I've just
taken a subscription on the electronic mag, much easier than download it
from Compuserve).
I want some help with addresses to shops who sell's not so official cd's by
Rush (fax# or e-mailaddress if it's possible) if you have any reliable
to recommend.
The shop-list on FTP/ seems a little bit out of date, I've tried
several shops but there was no answer on their fax#, neither did the e-mail
addresses work.

Thanks in advance, mein froinds!



Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:58:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: "I've upped my standards...UP YOURS!!!" <0217762@ACAD.NWMISSOURI.EDU>
Subject: tshirts

I  haven't had time to check the gopher lately.  Last time I looked, there was
an offer for new TNMS t-shirts.  I looked today and it was gone.  I was just
wondering if these were still available and how I could get one.  I would like
to have one when I go the Modern Drummer Festival Weekend, since in an
auditorium full of drummers there are bound to be tons of rush fans.  Speaking
of which, anyone else going mail me!  It's going to be a great show, even though
Neil won't be there.  Anyway, enough of my babble RUSH ON!!
Steve B


Date: Fri, 7 Apr 95 16:09 EST
From: "Tony J. Romano" <>
Subject: A Cool place. Not!


I am a little behind on my NMS readings (just read 3/27), so maybe some of the
other posters (not the paper kind, the NMS posting kind!) from here have 
already told of this.  Near Colorado Springs out towards the prarie is Rush, 
Colorado.  Other than the cool name, there is not any good things I can say 
about this place.  Oh yeah, I once heard of an unrestored '70 hemi Cuda 
hidden in a garage there.  It's a very small ranching-type town about 20 
miles away.  I have always wanted to drive out there with
my hatchet, axe or saw, and add a nice little wall hanging to my garage.

Tony Romano

"Yes we know, it's nothing new... It's just a waste of time!"


Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 17:37:05 -0500
Subject: More Philosophical Debate

Hello, all,
        This is my first posting, though I've been listening in for over a
year now.  I must say that listening to Rush got me into hard rock about
six years ago (I used to hate it), and that they're still my favorite
        As for the trees:
> wrote:
>Rand's view is that the "second-handers" of society, believing themselves
>oppressed by the creators, become parasites to the detriment of both.  So
>far so good--it fits the song.  But Rand held this situation to be the
>unfortunate consequence of a bad system, and that under a system of laissez-
>faire capitalism, NO ONE WOULD OPPRESS ANYONE.  That doesn't seem to fit
>the song's imagery, in which the Oaks, BY THEIR NATURE, deprive the Maples
>of light.
        I have to disagree with this idea.  Rand held that some people
would always lose out (except, maybe, in her ideal society of Galt's
Gulch).  It is simply how hard one works to be happy and free that is the
determinant of who really wins.  In my mind, the song is a parable to be
taken that when socialism is introduced into a society, it helps nobody,
and actually ends up hurting them.
        Also, I can corroborate what said in his
story about waiting for the Worcester Centrum show of Cp.  You're right
Randy, It was *COLD* out there.  My friend and I arrived at 11:00 the night
before, and waited a record eleven hours in the parking lot of a music
store in Lowell...
Around 4:00 in the morning 6 police cruisers came barrelling into the
parking lot and practically scared the life out of us... They thought that
we were planning to rob the store (One would think that other bands had
fans that waited at night... I guess not!) Needless to say that we had an
excellent view of the Boyz, once the concert finally came around, but not
without some truly interesting memories.

                                        -Andy   $tgs

ORQ:  "The point of a journey is not to arrive - Anything can happen!"
"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake
of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."


From: (Peter L. Zimmer)
Subject: UntimelyInteruptionOfForestDisspute
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 00:53:30 +0200

>... acoustic guitar bit, kind of classical...
little vocal verse ...BOOM!... little Mini-Moog doodling... wood block
>... a woodpecker going...chords... Geddy solo-esque moment...
Alex ...beautiful interplay ...Alex staccato ... With birds tweeting...
>... trees having awful dispute...more, less or equal sunlight... some
mall/parking lot contractor/builder...interupted... without even a
batted eyelash!

Isn't it always like that????
My compliments to all the good observers!!!
Peter L. Zimmer
Vorderrissstrasse 8
D-81825 Munich
FAX  :+(089)4271210


Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 19:11:03 -0400
From: (Alan Novitsky)
Subject: unorthodox playing

I have read in a few past posts ( since I have joined an internet provider
recently!!) about Geddy's
bass playing being less than technical or perfect..   Well, he makes it
sing!  So what if you don't play an instrument like it is supposed to be
played with a certain finger here or there!!   Alex is unorthodoxed as can
be.. Thats why many guitarists can't play him.  Look at Eddie VanHalen.. You
wrote the book there.. But yet he is known as one of the best of all time!
The post a few days ago from the bassist who noted on Geddy's inperfections,
thats what makes a great musician.. Figuring out ways of playing the
instrument like no one else has before.. Thats OK if his thumb sticks over
too far.  If you are gonna be techincal, you will sound like every other
Tom, Dick and Harry, who has ever sat in front of a board and a 16 track.
As a musician myself,
( piano since age 4 and organ, then guitar in my high school days and up to
now! ) I find it difficult to copy many
of what my guitar playing friends call easy.. ( that is average run of the
mill,  Rock and Roll guitarists..)..
Alex, usually I can listen to a few times and play note for note..  Eddie
VH, is the king to me, next to Alex..
But yet I can play *most* of his stuff.. Take Clapton ,  forget it..  What I
am trying to say is there is NO
wrong way to play a guitar or bass.. ( Piano is different,  when my old
teacher kept saying - " Curve your
Fingers-- Curve your fingers! )..  Thats what makes Rush so great.. They are
ALL very much unique..
And since the synth additions,  my point is that they added a fourth
"virtual" musician.. The synths are great.
Counterparts was a great way to escape that a bit..


Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 19:26:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: who really wrote Tom Sawyer and Closer to the Heart

In response to Phil Romans remark: "Best I can figure is that someone
wanted their buddies names next to the trio and plugged them in."
Read the liner notes and credits on MP and AFTK Dubois and Talbot are
both credited for lyrics along with Neil.  So no buddy theory.

This leaves the question as to who theollaborators are.  I have no idea.
I've noticed the credit before but never relayy gave it much thought. Any
in put would be interesting.

Bye for now,


Date:         Fri, 07 Apr 95 18:22:44 CDT
From: Kevin Ivan Smith 
Subject:      Sightings. . .

On the subject of Rush's influence on other bands, am I the only one who
recalls the strongly GUP-flavored moments on the first Icicle Works album?
This was particularly true on the song "Factory in the Desert".

I thought this band had promise, despite the ludicrous lyrics.  Unfortunately,
they soon took a creative nose-dive. . . oh, well . . .



Subject: Re: No racists allowed
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 95 23:31:00 -0100


 We just have our own views on the subject.  Only Neil knows what he
originaly meant when he wrote it.

Now, one to Troy's statements on racism,

T>>The song is *not* about taking a little pain for the sake of equality.
T>about what happens when a group tries to attain equality by destructive
T>coercive means.<

T>Sounds like a very racist and/or sexist-driven statement to me. "a group
T>TRIES to attain EQUALITY"? Please justify your statement.

Gee, I don't know.  Could it be that "a group" refers to the maples, and
"TRIES to attain EQUALITY" refers to them wanting the same light the oaks
get.  Why are people like YOU so quick to label a person "RACIST".  I'm
sure you will think I'm one also, but guess what?  I DON'T CARE!

"The righteous rise           "Those who know whats best for us-
 With burning eyes             Must rise and save us from ourselves"
 Of hatred and ill-will"

"Quick to judge
 Quick to anger
 Slow to understand"

T>>The maples could have occupied a different part of the forest that they
T>would own outright and where they would not have to compete with oaks for

T>And I'm sorry, but that sounds like forced segregation to me. Go be with
T>your own kind, etc.

Could the Maples live in the same space with the Oaks and still get as much
light as the Oaks?  I think not.  Oaks by their very nature (which they
cannot change) are taller than maples and therefore take up much of the
maples light.  If segregation is the ONLY way for the Maples to receive
equal quantity and quality of light, then so be it!  Far better than..."the
trees are all kept equal, by hatchet, axe and saw!"




Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 00:32:46 -0400
From: (David Panian)
Subject: Hockey 2112; some other stuff

Well, the hockey season is now in its stretch run. As a Detroit sports
fan, I guess I could get into some interesting conversations with the
guys about the Jays and Tigers and Leafs and Wings. Anyway... a few weeks
ago, the Red Wings acquired Bob Errey from the San Jose Sharks and he
took number 21 because Mike Sillinger already had Errey's favorite number.
Well, when Sillinger and Jason York were traded to Anaheim, Errey switched
his number to number 12. So, Errey went from 21 to 12. Cool, huh?

Oh, what else. Oh - I just got tickets to see Boston at Pine Knob in May.
That prompted me to put aside my Rush CDs for a while and relisten to
my Boston (only four?! Sheesh. Darn lawsuits/contracts/picky musicians.)
Anyway, I was reading the "liner notes" or whatever they're called in CDs,
and noticed that Boston makes a big deal out of not using computers and
tapes and recordings and stuff either in the studio or live. Well, knowing
that Rush makes big-time use of MIDI and sampling during concerts and is
always checking out new technologies in their albums, this kinda cheeses
me off. I know Tommy Scholz is a mech-e grad of MIT, and having lived with
a couple engineers in college, I know they can be picky about exactness
(unless it came to partial credit on tests and labs). But doesn't it seem
that Boston is being kinda high and mighty? I mean, especially after their
lawsuit against CBS so they could design high-tech amps and such, they
seem to be taking a holier-that-thou stance. I guess they're denigrating
"bad" uses of drum mahcines and synths, but through Rush and their
proteges, we know computers can be used for good in music. Well, I know
this has little to do with Rush, but it's been bugging me.

Okay, I'll end with some disjointed Rush content. Uriah Heep, a significant
band in the history of Rush, has a song where they just sing the English
alphabet and pronounce the last letter "Zed." As for concert t-shirts, I
was at the credit union cond]cting business and a woman and her little
kid were behind me in line. When I left the teller, the woman said to me
that my shirt (the tourtoise & hare with the "counterparts" on the back)
was interesting or something like that. I thanked her and told her it was
a concert shirt, which seemed to impress her (hey, it is different from
a "Screeming Sexists With Long, Messy Hair - Sex, Drugs & Rock 'n' Rule
World Tour shirt), and her kid recognized the tourtoise and hare. That was

Later, David

 "My precious sense of rightness/Is sometimes so naive/So that which I
 imagine/Is that which I believe." - Neil Peart, Rush, "Double Agent"


Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 23:33:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeff Bergstedt 
Subject: re: misunderstood lyrics (James Thomas) asks,

>Any more miscontrued lyrics out there?

A friend of mine once said "Bytor and the Snow Cone" and "Bytor and the
Snow Man"
    Insert Favorite Quote Here.
Jeff Bergstedt


Date: Sat, 8 Apr 95 0:53:06 EDT
From: Heinz Reiske 
Subject: Re: 04/04/95 - The National Midnight Star #1082

Hey Rush fans!!!

	This is my first post to NMS.
	Last week I had the pleasure of attending the RUSH Limbaugh show.
Some of you might feel that this is not such a pleasurable thing, but I
digress.  Before the show is actually filmed, Rush comes out and give an
audience briefing, where everyone gets to ask questions.
	In the past, Rush has used some songs by Rush as "bumper music"
in between commercial breaks, and I always wondered if there might be some
sort of connection between the two RUSH's.  So, I asked him, "Are you
a Rush fan?"  His reply was yes!


Date: Fri, 07 Apr 95 22:00:23 PST
From: "Jund, Michael" 
Subject: Favorite Listening Environments

     Fellow Rush Persons,

     Well, here is one of my favorite listening Rush environment

        Turning off all the lights, switching on my computer and stereo,
     blasting ASOH as loud as it goes, and reading your great comments on
     The NMS.  Thanks Rush mgr for this great outlet.  Thanks guys and gals
     for your great comments.

     Michael Jund
      e-mail me personally if you can relate to this.


Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 00:54:24 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Hitler, Geddy and the Trees

In TNMNS #1083  "Janss L. Adams"  WROTE:
>"Why did Hitler kill Jews? B/c he did. Roll the Bones!!!!"

Thank God he didn't get to Geddy. Or Slash or Einstein or, well you get my
point. The whole Trees debate made me think of a story about Robert Frost.
It seems the poet was visiting an advanced college english class, and they
happened to be analyzing one of the lines from his poems. The professor
proposed many theories about the meaning of the line, and the students had
their own insights. They had been debating for over two weeks, and the
discussion was going nowhere. The professor finally asked Frost what the
line really meant. Frost replied,"I don't know, it just sounded nice.".
The discussion was interesting, but now it's time to move on to something
else. Maybe "Natural Science"?
P.S. Recently I have gotten the idea that I am the only liberal on this
mailing list. Are there any others? It seems everyone likes the OTHER Rush.


Date: Sat, 08 Apr 1995 04:03:41 EST
Subject: What are the chances?


	It's 'bout 4:00 AM and I'm bored.  I'm listening to Presto while
studying Calc.  Then I start thinking about how many people would like to hear
Presto, the song, live.  "What are the chances of that happening?" I ask

	Not good, I conclude.  See, I know the set lists from about GUP pretty
well, and I know Presto, RTB, and CP for sure.  My studies show that if they
don't play a song on that album's supporting tour, they never play it.

	Then again, it's early in the morning and I'm a bit delirious.  If
anyone has conflicting evidence (set lists) then I'm perfectly willing to admit
I'm wrong, but I just can't think of anything they didn't do for the original
tour that they ended up doing later.  It's a shame - there are a lot of good
songs floating around that they haven't given the satisfaction of playing live.

	Until next time...

The Suspicious-looking Stranger,
Chris at York College
	The giant, savage So-ut is especially bloodthirsty and cruel, making it
a crowd favorite against unarmed opponents.
  	      Major League Baseball players...keep playing!


Date: 08 Apr 95 13:37:36 EDT
From: Mike Horwitz <>
Subject: more on the Trees

To continue the discussion on the meaning of The Trees, I will quote reviewer
Rick Clark, in
the All Music (something like that) CD Guide:

" The Trees, metaphorically adressing the Quebec secessionist movement became a
controversial rock-radio hit. "

Not that this is a definitive answer, of course. The guide has a little write up
on the band, and reviews of almost all the CDs. If anyone is interested in 
hearing what the guide has to say, just e-mail me. or if the rush-mgr doesn't 
mind, I can transcribe them all into one post.


Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.


Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:55:00 -0400
Subject: Roll the Swastika

Subj:   #2(2) 04/20/95 - The National Midnight Star #1087
Date:   Thu, Apr 20, 1995 1:30 PM CST

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In ish 1083 "Janss L. Adams"  dribbles:

>I want to comment on the overanlyzing of lyrics
>to The Trees. People have been going back and
>forth about domination vs. submission and Oaks
>being taller than Maples or vice versa...etc.
>Come on- Neil was probably on drugs when he
>wrote the damn song...probably on acid or
>something and sawa some trees attacking each
>other. This struggle to know the true, exact
>meaning/origin is pointless and leads right
>back to "individual interpretation"- which is
>what songs/art/etc should be judged by.

"Why did Hitler kill Jews? B/c he did. Roll the Bones!!!!"

In light of your observations of 'Art' and "individual
interpretation," I would like to know what in the hell
your interpretation of this line is.  And how do you
suppose this line fits into the realm of 'Roll the Bones'?
You are a scary individual - puting this line between
Eddie Van Halen and a beer jingle.



Date:        Sat, 08 Apr 95 18:45:30 EDT
From: "Cygnus, the God of Balance" 
Subject: Limelight solo--the best??

I am suprised at how many people really like the Limelight solo!!
It is a great solo, but one of the easiest to play (which
doesn't mean it can't sound great) and I can think of some solos
that are just so incredible--Analog Kid, Cut to the Chase,
2112, Hemispheres, The Body Electric, and Before and After! I guess
it's not so much what is played, but rather how its played--the
23rd fret sustained note is a very nice touch!!! Well just adding
a few thoughts!!
YKYARF when-You wait until 9:12 PM to make that important phone call,
for good luck;)---Vesuvian Dopplegangers rule!

The impulse is pure.....               /|/  /|  |  (~~~  |  |
Sometimes our circuits get shorted..    |    |  |    \   |--|
By external interference                |    \__|/  __)  |  |

Signals get crossed-
And the balance distorted
By internal incoherence
Magic--The Gathering--Long live Kird Apes!! Weenie creatures rule!!


Date:        Sat, 08 Apr 95 18:58:41 EDT
From: "Cygnus, the God of Balance" 
Subject: Misunderstood Lyrics

Red Barchetta and Tom sawyer!! So hard to get what he says without
reading the words...
RB-That hides a shining car--a brilliant red barchetta-under reddish, ta
nnish vines
TS-The world is, the world is..grey and quite foggy..maybe as his
eyes are white!!!
Hope it gets a laugh!!

The impulse is pure.....               /|/  /|  |  (~~~  |  |
Sometimes our circuits get shorted..    |    |  |    \   |--|
By external interference                |    \__|/  __)  |  |

Signals get crossed-
And the balance distorted
By internal incoherence
Magic--The Gathering--Long live Kird Apes!! Weenie creatures rule!!


Date:         Sat, 08 Apr 95 20:10:58 CDT
From: Kevin Ivan Smith 
Subject:      Tribute bands

Say, could anyone who is savvy to the tour schedules of the flock of
Rush tribute bands which appear to be out there please alert me (and Tom B.
at UMKC) if one of them will be approaching Kansas City?

Much thanks in advance,


Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 21:37:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kathy Dittrich 
Subject: Favorite bass lines

It seems odd to me that people are posting their favorite bass lines, and
yet seem to be COMPLETELY ignoring the tunes on Presto. Well anyway,
here's my top 10:

1 - Show Don't Tell
2 - Grand Designs
3 - Digital Man
4 - Best I Can
5 - Cinderella Man
6 - The Camera Eye
7 - Circumstances
8 - Alien Shore
9 - Scars
10 - Prime Mover




Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 22:55:21 -0400
Subject: type of ride cymbal used by Neil

       What is the specific type and dimensions of your ride cymbal?
Not the brand name. Say hello to Selina, Alex, and Geddy.
Burning for Buddy was great, but I thought "Cottontail" was a little too
 precise for a Buddy Rich tune.  It doesn't sound like you're having much
fun.  Nice solo, though.  Is Rush ever coming back to La.?  Seems like it's
been a few years.  We're waiting.

                                                                Thanks ,



Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 07:48:37 -0400
From: Peter Beshuk 
Subject: BMG numbers

I thought this might help the people asking about the BMG numbers.  BMG
recently members a rather comprehensive catalog of what looks like all their
CD's.  I definetly got the impression that it was everything they had for
each artist.  The Rush section contained these numbers (which aren't in
the FAQ as of a few months ago):
   FBN     103184
   PoW     103185
   CP      135147

ATWS, CoS and R  were not in the BMG list, everything else (except Archives,
never on CD?) was, I think


Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 13:10:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Eric Liebman 
Subject: Alex gear

To all alex gear-heads--

Does anyone know the following (or where the info might be held in ftp or
some other hard-to-use internet location:

(1) What amplification does Alex use for PW/MP/Sig??
(2) How does Al keep the Hentor in tune? (it looks as if it has a Floyd
Rose bridge, but perhaps a graphite nut w/o locks, which seems very odd...)

Thanks, Eric


Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 22:00:26 -0100
Subject: First posting incl. reflection

Hi there, this is my first posting to NMS. My Rush fanatics started when
listening to 2112. Then I bought the newly released AFTK...

After recieving a few issuse of NMS the following starts to sing in my head
everytime I start to read a new NMS:

        Like a rare and precious metal
        Beneath a ton of rock
        It takes some time and trouble
        To separate from the stock
        You sometimes have to listen to
        A lot of useless talk
                        Neil Peart



Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 14:40:53 -0700
Subject: Greetings all and...Pete...Where are you?

Greetings all and Pete?....Where are you!  The E-mail address you left on your 
6 April posting don't work!  I've got a deal for you for the Not Fade Away 
single..a Gold Record GUP!  E-mail me!

Also folks, I was fortunate enough to fly down to San Francisco Last "wow" 2 
February's ago for Counterparts Tour!  As always, it was fantastico!  I missed 
the lasers though and missed Marathon and The Manhattan Project, but no 
complaints here!  Hopefully we'll all be listening to yet another masterpiece 
from the guys!

Until Later all!

Mr. Steve


Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 18:38:59 EST
From: "And she was looking at herself, and things were looking like a movie"
Subject: Hmm, been a while...

	Been awhile since I've been able to read (let alone post) to
TNMS, but I was intrigued by a few things, so I guess I'm gonna get it
all out and then go back into hiding.

	(*) "The Trees" is definately about some trees.  That is, in my opinion.

	(*) Bands I'd like to see cover Rush...
		In The Mood (Tony Benett)
		Roll The Bones (the Rolling Stones, who shoud be Rolling Bones)
		Something for Nothing (Pearl Jam, since the song title
		could also describe their success)
		Time Stand Still (The Dead Kennedys)
		Stick It Out (Peter, Paul, and Mary)
		Animate (The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra)
		Working Man (as a spoken word piece by Allen Ginsberg)

	(*)  YKYARFW when you spot the acronyn YKYARFW and recognize it

	Click Click, See ya later (beta beta)

====================== [[[ IN STEREO, WHERE AVAILABLE ]]] ==================
Don Chase is...                       | Jerry Brown, Ronald Reagan, Pete    	      | Wilson?  NO! NOT CALIFORNIA UBER	   -and!      | ALLES!                 |
  (same as it ever was...)	      | [one sweet dream came true today.]
Candles have dream words to flip and change with planet motion


Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:29:38 -0400
From: (mark)
Subject: Matt  Re: Bridge of Sighs

Matt thought The Necromancer was ripped-off from another song...
You're joking right? Well, if you are serious...... Bridge Of Sighs
is a song by legendary guitarist Robin Trower, formerly of Parcol Harum
(spelling). Anyway, BoS is from the early 70's. Chronologically speaking
of course. Oh well, I'm Too Rolling Stoned anyway......
Mark Hayes              "Rapids are where it"s at,
                           but where's it's ?"
Virginia Beach, VA USA


From: "Randy Marquis" 
Date:          Sun, 9 Apr 1995 21:33:06 EST
Subject:       Re:  Progressive Rock?

    Someone recently asked about the definition of "progressive
rock."   Well, for what it's worth, I asked the same question of a
friend of mine, recently.  According to this rather knowledgable (sp?)
source, anything considered progressive rock basically has "roots" in
some other genre of music.  For example, both The Moody Blues and Yes
have stong classical influences ("The Symphonic Music of Yes" or "A
Night At Red Rocks With The Moody Blues" are good examples).  These
are rather obvious.  Not being a great musical mind, I won't even try
to pin down what characterizes Rush as progressive (I'm sure the
complex chord arrangements have something to do with it).

Randy (


Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:07:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Binary Stuff

I was wondering if anybody knows anything about the binary sequences
inside the CD insert for the Counterparts album???  It looks like the three
lines are identical patterns, but do the sequences mean anything or have
any significance (i.e. translations into letters and/or words)?


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:30:54 -0400
Subject: Fiat Barchetta

Came across a little something in "Car & Driver" magazine some might be
interested in:

Fiat has just introduced their new roadster: The Barchetta!

They didn't give color choices, but I'd imagine Red must be an option.
(Although the one in Car & Driver was orange...Close.) It looks kinda
like a Miata.  They said that only 15,000 will be made per year, and
that US sales would be impossible.  So for you European NMSers:

You DEFINITELY know you're a Rush fan if you own a red Fiat Barchetta!

               Russ Brooks
"Wave after wave / Will flow with the tide
 And bury the world as it does"
"You can feel the waves coming on
 Let them destroy you or carry you on"
                             -Dream Theater


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 11:42:35 -0400
Subject: Re: #3(3) 04/10/95 - The Nati...

This may have been talked about before, but did anyone catch "Stick it Out"
on Beavis & Butthead?  I though t that for them (B+B) it was funny. They
sorta dogged the band, but the comments 'bout the guy on the pole were
amusing.  ANd hearing Beavis sing  "Spirit of Radio" was worth it.    anyyway
that's it   Later.


From: Corey Harbaugh 
Subject: Rush Lit. Allusions... last call
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 13:19:19 EDT

As promised I have continued to compile a list of the allusions from Rush
lyrics to works of literature (and other mediums, for that matter) and I
believe my list is nearing completion. Please take a look at this list to
see if there are any additions/corrections etc. needed before I send it off
to the FAQ board. The list is as follows:

*2112 (from 2112) closely parallels in theme and narrative the novel Anthem
	by Ayn Rand.
*Hemispheres (from Hemispheres) mentions Gods and Goddesses of Greek Mythos.
*Name of spacecraft in Hemispheres (from Hemispheres) is Rocinante- this is
	also the name of the horse of Zeus (Greek Mythos), the horse of Don
	Quixote (novel Don Quixote by Cervantes), and the motor home in
	Travels with Charley (novel by Steinbeck).
*Bravado (from Roll The Bones) inspired by a line in Tidewater Tales (novel
	by John Barth).
*The line "wilderness of mirrors" in Double Agent (from Counterparts) is a
	line lifted from T.S. Eliot poem "Gerontion".
*Xanadu (from Farewell To Kings) is based on the poem "Khubla Khan" by
	Samuel Taylor Coleridge.
*Tom Sawyer (from Moving Pictures) is the title of a novel by Mark Twain.
*Jacob's Ladder (from Permanent Waves) alludes to the Biblical story of
	Jacob and the heavenly ladder.
*Rivendell (from Caress of Steel) is the name of a safe haven in Tolkien
	fantasy series (Lord of the Rings by Tolkien).
*All The World's A Stage (both the live album title and a line in the song
	Limelight {Moving Pictures}) is a line from William Shakespeare's play
	As You Like It.
*Big Money (from Power Windows) is the title of a novel by John Dos Passos.
*Grand Designs (from Power Windows) is also the title of a novel by John Dos
*Losing It (from Signals) alludes to author Ernest Hemingway and two of his
	novels (For Whom the Bell Tolls and The Sun Also Rises).
*The image of a "Cold Fire" (Counterparts) is an image that is explored in
	the Tom Robbins novel The Jitterbug Formula.
*The motif of women archetypes in Animate (Counterparts) is a motif explored
	in the Tom Robbins novel Skinny Legs and All and is also based on
	the writings of Carl Jung. (Incidentally, Neil Peart is quoted
	praising the novel Skinny Legs and All in its opening page
*Between Sun and Moon (Counterparts) was inspired by a poem by Pye Dubois.
*Red Barchetta (Moving Pictures) parallels the short story "A Nice Morning
	Drive" by Richard Foster. [Note: I could not confirm nor deny this
   [ Not quite a parallel, more like a "based on" -- the original story is
     available on syrinx in the ftp/gopher/web site.          : rush-mgr ]

*The line "nothing to fear but fear itself" from The Weapon (Signals) is
	from an inaugural address by Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
*The line "thy...will be done" in The Weapon (Signals) refers to The Lord's
	Prayer from The New Testament.
*Necromancer (Caress of Steel) alludes to The Lord of the Rings by Tolkien.
*Panacea (Caress of Steel) refers to a mythological cure all (Greek Mythos).
*Lotus Land from Freewill (Permanent Waves) alludes to a land described in
	Homer's epic poem "The Odyssey."
*Absalom from Distant Early Warning (Grace Under Pressure) is a name from
	the Old Testament story of King David. Absalom Absalom is also the
	title of a novel by William Faulkner.
*Ta'i Shan (Hold Your Fire) is the name of a mountain in China. The song
	alludes to the legend connected with that mountain from Chinese
*Cinderella Man is based on the movie Mr. Deeds Goes to Town.
*Twilight Zone (2112) is based on the old television show of the same name and
	specifically refers to two episodes.

Ok sharp-eyed Rush fans- what have I missed and what do I need to correct.
In all but a few cases I was able to personally confirm the sources by
looking up the sources etc. Please respond sooner rather than later so that
I can send this list to the FAQ section and begin my next project:
historical/cultural allusions in Rush lyrics.

    [ Don't forget the line in Alien Shore -- "We hold these truths to be
      self-evident", but then again you might call it historical as well!
                                                             : rush-mgr ]

Thanks and happy reading/listening/living-




From: "Whipple, Steven J (Steve)" 
Subject: Archives
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 17:03:00 CDT

Hello All!

A local CD store has one copy of _Archives_ on cassette for something like
$15 or $16.  I'll pick it up for anyone who wants it.  This will be a
one-time, first-e-mail/ first-serve offer.  I'll ask if the store can get
more, but I suspect that no one is printing _Archives_ anymore and supplies
are therefore limited.

BTW, I'm sure this has already been said, but let me restate that _Archives_
has not (and, sadly, probably never will be) been released on CD.  It's only
available on LP, cassette, and 8-track.  Now should anyone find it on
8-track and want to sell it to me...well, you know where I am.  Until later.

                    -Steve Whipple

e-mail address:


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 16:55:58 -0700 (MST)
From: "Ryan Douglas Redalen" <>
Subject: first entry

Hey everyone!

This is my first entry so I will keep it short.  Rush has been my favorite
band for about 8 years now.  I grew up listening to them thanks to my two
older brothers who were both Rush fans.  I have only been to one concert
though.  That was the counterparts show in Landover, Maryland.  It was
amazing.  Geddy was sick that night and they canceled their next two
shows, but they still put on a great show.  My seats were on the floor so
I had a fairly good view.  The best part was the fire on "Double Agent".
I could feel the heat.

My favorite Rush song ever is "Natural Science".  That song is like many
different songs in one.

Alex's best guitar solos?  Well there are so many that it is hard to
narrow it down to just a few.  I will go with

"Freewill", "Limelight", "By-tor and the Snow Dog" live and "Cygnus X-1"

And finally I want to say What Up?! to my boy Skever out in Hagerstown,
Marlyand.  He of the giant Rush wall clock.

Ryan Redalen


From: Christopher Lee Mace 
Subject: addition to previous letter.
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 21:29:53 -0500 (CDT)

I'm not sure, but I think I might have neglected to put in my email address
on a letter that I sent out a couple days ago to the NMS. I asked about any
other newsletter like the NMS for other bands. My address is  Thanx, and sorry about the confusion.


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:56:11 -0400
Subject: Rush Tribute Album Wish List

Hi, y'all.  Just thought I'd start another endless thread (you're welcome) .

I think it's pretty likely that there will be a Rush tribute album one of
these years; maybe not tomorrow, but sooner or later.  Here's my wish list.
 The criteria were:  (1) Bands/artists that have identified themselves as
Rush fans in the past; (2) Bands that members of Rush have said they like;
 (3) Bands that I think would sound cool (heh heh huh huh) playing Rush
songs; and (4) Bands you wouldn't neccesarily expect.  Limit of 12

Steve Morse Band:  La Villa Strangiato
Billy Joel:  Subdivisions
Queensryche:  Overture/Temples of Syrinx
Live:  Presto
Smashing Pumpkins:  Time Stand Still
Metallica:  Anthem
L.L. Cool J.:  Roll The Bones
Eric Johnson:  YYZ
Living Colour (yes, I know they broke up):  The Enemy Within
Lyle Lovett:  Closer To The Heart
Gin Blossoms:  Middletown Dreams
Sammy Hagar:  Working Man

And just for fun . . .
Dash Rip Rock with Robert Plant:  In The Mood

Why are they here? (because they're--OW!  OK, OK, overused joke):

Steve Morse:  He is like unto a god.  And he's a Rush fan.  Buy his new CD.
Billy Joel:  A Rush fan, and I'd love to hear his vocals and keys on this
Queensryche:  Major Rush fans, and can you imagine Tate's voice on "Temples"?
Live:  Neil likes them, and they're a hell of a good band.
Smashing Pumpkins:  A critical darling, and the singer likes Rush.
Metallica:  They like Rush, Rush likes them, they rock, hey, what's not to
LL Cool J:  The only rapper who cares about *music*.  A little weird, but it
could be, ah, cool.
Eric Johnson:  See Steve Morse.
Living Colour:  See Metallica.
Lyle Lovett:  Hey, I think he's great.  Sue me.
Gin Blossoms:  They were on the radio when I wrote this.
Sammy Hagar:  Why not?  He'd wail on the whole first album.

Now, I have to say looking back that I'm not a big fan of at least two of the
above (I won't say which), but I still think they'd do cool versions of Rush
tunes.  Comments?  Suggestions?  Flames? (DUCK!!!)

 --Will Collier


Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 01:40:21 -0700
From: (Bill Baker)
Subject: Rush items wanted

Can anyone tell me where to get Rush items like concert t-shirts and bumper

Bill Baker                              "What you own is your own kingdom,
Easton, WA                               What you do is your own glory,                What you love is your own power,
                                         What you live is your own story..."
                                                         Neil Peart


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