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         The National Midnight Star, Number 1089

                  Monday, 24 April 1995
Today's Topics:
                       song lyrics
              Apology/CP Video/Geddy's Pick
                   Christians and Rush
         Re: 04/18/95 - The National Midnight Sta
                 I came this <> close ...
                   Geddy's bass playing
                      Boot question
             My vote for "No more Trees" etc.
                      @ the phantom
             Re: #3(3) 04/19/95 - The Nati...
                      Re: ELP & Rush
             You too can own a Red Barchetta
                    lyric similarities
     Re: 04/18/95 - The National Midnight Star #1085
                         2 Cents
                       20 QUESTIONS
            What you believe is what you are!
                     Lit. Influences
     Re: 04/20/95 - The National Midnight Star #1087
               Alex and Geddy lyrical input
            the RTB logout... simple and cool.
                 Re: warm memory chips...
                  Rush and Rush? Yikes!
               lyrical literary references
     RE: 04/20/95 - The National Midnight Star #1087
                       Rush Numbers
                      to Rich at KU
              By Tor ... and the Snow Cone!
     Re: 04/20/95 - The National Midnight Star #1087
                   Rush Lit. Allusions
                        During PW
                      Hitler Theory
                      Peart's set...
           Re: RUSHINFO V1.0 -assessment, IMHO

Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:31:40 -0500
From: Mike Bruneau 
Subject: song lyrics

What's this i'm hearing about Lee and Lifeson not being able to write good

example...hey, baby, let's get closer to the heart....TNMS 1086....

Well....just remember, Lee wrote the lyrics for "Different Strings" and that
song is one of my favorites....and Lifeson wrote the lyrics for "Lessons"
off of 2112.  There's nothing wrong with the lyrics in either of these
songs!!!!  It might be that Peart might have a little more of a philosophical
mind than L and L, but they ALL can write lyrics.......

(Hey, Baby, I wanna rock and roll ya
 At the Lake Between the Sun and Moon!!!)
              JUST KIDDING!!!!

Mike Bruneau


Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:58:38 EST
Subject: Apology/CP Video/Geddy's Pick

Hello all,

	First, I'd like to apologize for misleading any of you.  I had posted
that Rush was writing right now and would release an album in the fall but
probably winter.  Well, that turns out to be wrong.  It wasn't a rumor, though.
I DID get my info in late Feb. from Val Azzoli, pres. of Atlantic.

	In reference to Gina's post, I have the CP video.  It is, by far, the
best boot video I've ever seen.  There are times when they placed a frozen
frame in places where, I hypothesize, the recorder stopped to watch the show
(first verse of Dreamline, first couple minutes of The Rhythm Method).  The
audio is on the whole time, however.  It has great sound and the guy had great
seats.  He was a steady camera-handler, as well.  It's definitely
worth...finding on the street...yeah, that's it, finding! :)

	Finally, there has been some stuff about Geddy using a pick.  Well, no,
Geddy never learned how to use a pick properly - for the bass.  What we're
forgetting is that Geddy is a guitar player as well.  Remember the ol'
doubleneck??  I would imagine, when he had to switch to rhythm guitar, he used
a pick.  I may be wrong - I never saw any of those shows.  Ok, waiting for some
of you dinosaurs to refute this! :)

	That's 'bout it for now.  Again, sorry for the inaccurate album post, I
thought it was credible. :(

 -Chris at York College
	"There's no such thing as gravity.  The world just sucks." :)
	The giant, savage So-ut is especially bloodthirsty and cruel, making it
a crowd favorite against unarmed opponents.
  	      Major League Baseball players...keep playing!


Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:01:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Christians and Rush

I see no reason why you can't be a good Christian and a Rush fan either.
I personally happen to be a practicing Catholic and a practicing
Rushoholic.  Liking a group's musical talent and appreciating their
lyrics doesn't mean you have to agree with their political/social views.
It simply means you appreciate their ability to write and play music.
(Cringing in terror from all the flames about to come for that remark)
And I will be the first to say that they are about the best in the business
when it comes to writing and playing.  But I digress.  Appreciating
Rush is actually *very* Christian, because it is appreciating the boys'
God-given abilities and talents which are being put to proper use -
omnia ad maioram gloriam Dei.

 -J. Reimero
The Catholic University of America


Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 23:05:46 EDT
Subject: Re: 04/18/95 - The National Midnight Sta

Hey, everybody!

   In NMS #1085, Arvid Hokanson wrote about the complaints of Rush overkill
on Canadian radio,  saying that he can't really see these complaints of
"too much of a good thing".  Speaking as one who has burned out on
played-out Rush masterpieces like "The Spirit of Radio", "Closer to the
Heart", and of course, "Tom Sawyer" (I await the flames.), as well as
classics like the Stones' "Satisfaction", I have to respectfully disagree.
You can have way too much of a good thing.  Hearing the same songs over and
over again from a band that has such a vast and diverse catalog is kind of
depressing.  My examples are all great songs, but why can't program
directors dig out the more obscure, and in my possibly biased opinion,
better, songs like "Between the Wheels", "Losing It", or "Lock and Key"?
They play nearly forgotten Black Sabbath and Rainbow songs like "Heaven and
Hell" and "The Man on the Silver Mountain", why not "Mystic Rhythms" or
"Available Light"?

   Arvid did point out that this Canadian station played a lot of Rush,
which I guess implies the songs which aren't quite American radio fare get
some air time.   There's another problem of overexposure.  I listen to at
least one Rush disc a day.  But when I turn on the radio, I want some
variety.  Hearing the same band on the same station more than two or three
times a day doesn't constitute a variety, IMHO.

   I'm sorry if my tone seems hostile.  I just had to share my thoughts on
the matter.  I'm not usually this acerbic! :)

   Well, that wraps it up.  It's been groovy.

                                               Dale Freeman

  I have no signature file and I'm very proud of that! :)


Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 23:35:13 -0400
Subject: I came this <> close ...

Hi friends!

I have been resisting the temptation to tell this story, but after reading
about Puanani's friend's friend's friend Neil in TNMS #1082, I've decided to
give in.  So here goes...

You may recall that during Major League Baseball spring training 1993 (or was
it some other year, they all run together) Geddy took the field with the St.
Louis Cardinals.  It seems that Brynn Smith, then a Cardinal, and Geddy are
good friends.  So what's the point, you may ask.  Well ... Gene Geisleman
(sp?), a trainer for the Cardinals, is a brother-in-law of my best friend
Eric.  I kept bugging Eric to use this connection to get us an audience w/
Ged, or at least get us good seats to the upcomming concert, but he wouldn't,
the bum.  Oh the things that may have been ......

So I guess it is now looking like we won't be seeing a new album until maybe
mid '96 ... I'm soooo depressed.  Ah well, hopefully Alex will give us all
something to cheer about in the near future.

> life blood spills over...
 -just kidding ;-) Norm


Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 23:35:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Alex Lifeson 
Subject: Geddy's bass playing

	To the person who said that they saw Geddy's pick in a guitar IS Geddy's pick, as far as I know, but it is not for his bass.
Don't forget that he also plays the guitar on a few songs, like Xanadu, where he
plays the 12-string.  But I don't think he has EVER used anything but his
fingers on his bass.  briaN M eichorN


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 00:35:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Boot question

Hey Now,
Has any one heard of a CD called Right to Passage that was recorded
in 1979 at the Bath Festival? I would really like
 to know the sound quality of it & if Hempispheres Book 1 & 2 is on
this CD. Thanks for any help.



Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 95 00:41:02 EDT
From: Tumtum Tree <34RVVT3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      My vote for "No more Trees" etc.

And the maples baw-baw-baw because the Oaks baw-baw-baw......
    Thank you Chris Harig for your last post in support of the discontinuation
of the Trees thread.  We all appreciate your insights, folks... but I think "ov
erkill" is very applicable here....  I only wish I knew how to excite high scho
ol students with ciriculum literature the way RUSH excites us!!  It'd make my f
uture-job O-so-much easier!!  On to different things---
    -Mr. Amato (u know w00 j00 be &=-)) i shall sink my teeth into ELP ASAP as
soon as I'm done with MTV and QVC and HBO and CBSNBCABCCNBC.... (bad joke, huh?
) you don't need to flame me to tell me, either....
    -EVERYONE who owns a radio should listen to NPR (that's National Public Rad
io) at least thrice a week... mui, mui good stuff  Don't Let Newt Take It Away,
Either!!  check local listings for a public radio station near you. WCMU 89.5 F
M in the Greater Metropolitan Mt. Pleasant Area (heh, Michigan joke)
    -Anyone else besides me list fav. bands like this:
            1. RUSH (sha.. as if I'd put anybody else!!)
            2. Frank Zappa
requiring minds must know
    -Question: perhaps I missed this in the FAQ... anybody know what is said/sh
outed/sang/chanted at the very beginning of 'Alien Shore'??? Forgive my feable
attempt at phonetics and my monolingualness, but it sounds (phonetically) to th
is English-speaking U.S. citizen like:  Yadda-ba-ohhhhh    Arabic?  AN Indian d
ialect?  BTW ALien Shore is on Cp  I gots no clue
      -To the unfortunate soul who almost got shanked out of floor seats becaus
e of American Express:  I have never had a problem similar to yours when purcha
sing tix for Detroit shows...... just cold feet, fingers, nose etc.
  That's all the babbling I can think of for now
                           "Thank you very kindly, Good Night!"

      *Better people...  *
      *Better food...    *           YKYAARFW people who aren't are just
      *..and better Beer!*            plain WEIRD!


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 00:16:59 -0500 (GMT-0500)
From: Meredith Leigh Cronin 
Subject: @ the phantom

	To answer the ? about the dude who asked @ the phanton at the
concert who had a board, screens, etc. set up, aparently, you have never
seen nor opperated a light board.  For a system that big, you have
monitors, and a huge board (grid)  how else do you expect it to work.
	-till it rains purple elephants


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 02:55:35 -0400
Subject: Re: #3(3) 04/19/95 - The Nati...

Rush Friends,
    I was wondering if any of you could supply me with the Primus mailing
list. I have been trying to find it, but have been unsuccessful. E-Mail me
direct at this address.


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:55:28 BST
From: (James Screaton)
Subject: Re: ELP & Rush

Hi All, says: (I hate it when people don't have names :))

> ELP has QUITE A FEW similarities with Rush, a big one being their
> respectve keyboardists' choice of equipment.  Both Ged and Keith
> Emerson were pioneers of the Moog synth, Emerson used a Moog Modular
> for a long time (he's got many stories to tell about it) and Ged
> uses the more modern Moog Poly and Minimoog.

Well, both have used Moogs, although I'm not sure about Geddy using
a PolyMoog. I always thought that Keith Emerson's sound was equally
represented by a Hammond organ. He also used Yamaha keyboards (intro
to Fanfare for a Common man). Geddy has used Oberheim equipment for
a long time (see Visions) including the OB8 (Subdivisions?). Also
he used a Roland Jupiter 8 in the Signals era, and a PPG for p/g.
 I've no idea what he uses now, but I suspect there are a few
samplers (Akai, as Neil has used perhaps) hidden away backstage.

I don't disagree with you though. It's just that the sounds produced
are from many other instruments than Moog's. It's a shame that Geddy
doesn't seem to still be using the Mini Moog, live at least.

This is all from memory, so if I've got anything wrong, I'm sorry,
but on the whole I think it's right.



Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:37:47 est
Subject: You too can own a Red Barchetta

     Fiat, those nice Italians have just released a new model - The
     Barchetta - Its a 2 seater sports cars, a bit like the MG. An MG being
     featured in the original article that inspired the song.

     THE TREES Pt #761

     I have always interpreted this as being about colonialism - The oaks
     being the English - Oaks being the traditional English tree.

     I don't know my Canadian history but if any other English "Colony" is
     to go by we probably weren't too nice to the natives.


     Please don't complain about getting 8th row seats, as I would prefer
     any seats to the ones we get in Europe when Rush tour - i.e. ones 3000
     miles away. PLAY EUROPE PLEASE!

     regards, Salutations and Play THE WEAPON loud!

     Ian  -


Date:        Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:43:31 EST
From: Steven Horwitz 
Subject: lyric similarities

The recent thread on similar musical passages in Rush songs and songs
of other bands leads me to note an instance of parallel lyrics.  Has
anyone ever noticed the similarity between the chorus to "Territories"
and the lyrics in Paul Simon's "The Boy in the Bubble" from the
*Graceland* album?  Both albums came out within a month of each other
so it's not an issue of intentional copying.  However it is fascinating
that two of the best lyricists in rock (Roger Waters is #3) hit on the
same themes at the same time.

"The whole wide world / an endless universe
But we keep looking through the eyeglass in reverse"


"The way the camera follows us in slo-mo
The way we look to us all
The way we look to a distant constellation
That's dying in the corner of the sky"


[was that short enough, oh dear brother of mine??]

The Professor

P.S.  *Live* Unplugged was excellent!


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:08:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Karen Lawrence 
Subject: Re: 04/18/95 - The National Midnight Star #1085

Hi all. I know this is a bit old - but with Spring Break, I've been backed\
up on my reading..
Anyway - In reply to the Christian Rush fan subject..
I'm Roman Catholic... In fact, I'm the stereotypical Roman Catholic
12 years of Catholic school, Irish/Italian ancestors...
Big families (except mine.. sigh.. )
schoolteacher mom.. I mean, geez.. what else could there be?
Anyway, I'm a HUGE Rush fan.. (I just spent my tax refund on a CD of Power
Windows, b/c I dint have a copy of it.)
I don't really find anything wrong with any of theirt lyrics.. I remember
being in school and hearing about them being Satanic... But, the star symbol
is not Satanic (you have to flip it, I tihnk ,m for it to be satanic)
Freewill, of all things, is my favorite song.. -
and because i don'y believe in predestination, Roll The Bones, and Freewill
have a lot of meaning for me.. not necessarily the meaning Neil had in mind.
but, in a way.. If we didn't interpret te songs to our own lives, well
then the songs wouldn't mean as much...
I don't think Roll The Bones is about leaving things up to chance as much
as it is working with what you've been given... (regardless of how you believe
you got it) and I things Freewill isn't necessarily saying religion is bad..
but saying, if you're going to believe in something, at least make sure you
believe in it b/c you want to, not because you're afraid, or b/c you want to
go to heaven..
geez - boy can I prattle..


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 07:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 2 Cents

     I wasn't going to get caught up in this argument about Christians and
     Rush, but here's my 2 Cents worth:

     Yes, I'm a very serious born again Christian--and a Rush fan.  In that



Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:47 EST
From: Michael Messina 
Subject: 20 QUESTIONS





Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:58:51 -0600
From: (Tom Keekley)
Subject: What you believe is what you are!

This is a note to Cheryl and all those involved with the 'Anniversary Project':

'thank YOOOOoooo!' (in high, piercing voice)

The sweatshirts look GREAT! My buddy Steve (his long-delayed birthday
gift!) and I will wear them with PRIDE, knowing that part of the money went
to a good cause and in the hopes that I will be recognized by a fellow

Even in-between albums and tours, NMS keeps the Red Star held high in hand!

Feeling Rush-bondish and sentimental,

tom ('It's true!')

PS: Hey, Ibe, lets dump the babes and REALLY jam to the CLASSICS!! (No
offense to the numerous and very hip female fans!)


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Lit. Influences

Add John Barth's _Tidewater Tales_ to the list for "We will pay the price
but we will not count the cost"  -- RTB Tour Book

The fact is that Mr. Peart is quite an intelligent person, and is rather
well-read.  To limit his list of 'literary influences' to one, two, or
even twenty authors would be to insult both Neil and the nature of
literature.  More to the point, Neil has become his own literary any accomplished writer should, and it should be enough
that he writes as well as he does.

The conversation about 'The Trees' has been going on ever since this
newsletter has been posted.  The lyrics have an  impact on most people
that listen to it, and because most people want to let their opinions be
known (why else do we have them?), this makes it a popular topic for
discussion that is probably not going to stop anytime soon.  For those
that are annoyed with the constant "trees" thread, just press whatever
keys are necessary to skip the offending posts.  This is, lest we forget,
a forum for thought and discussion, and no matter how annoyed you or I
may get, the right of speech does prevail (BTW, I, too, am tiring of
constant "Tree"-hugging discussion).

Now I will step down off my box of Tide...

^ Mark Kaiser				...She said 'Just don't disappoint me ^
^ a.k.a. Delric the Unabashed  		   You know how complex women are.'   ^
^					---N. Peart   ^


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:57:31 -0500
From: (Waldo)
Subject: Re: 04/20/95 - The National Midnight Star #1087

you buy a 22" Zildjian ping ride b/c that's what a modern drummer said neil

>       What is the specific type and dimensions of your ride cymbal?
>Not the brand name. Say hello to Selina, Alex, and Geddy.
>Burning for Buddy was great, but I thought "Cottontail" was a little too
> precise for a Buddy Rich tune.  It doesn't sound like you're having much
>fun.  Nice solo, though.  Is Rush ever coming back to La.?  Seems like it's
>been a few years.  We're waiting.
>                                                                Thanks ,
>                                                                       Nath=

   "no, you must be thinking of someone else."=A9  =20


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:08:47 HST
From: puanani@wana.pbrc.Hawaii.Edu (Puanani Akaka)
Subject: Alex and Geddy lyrical input

Dia duit!

>In NMS #1080, Chris said:
>>       But just think if Geddy and Alex still had input, we may have been
>>       subjected to some of the following classic lines:
>>       Closer To The Heart--
>>       And the men who hold high places, must be the ones who start
>>        Well hey now baby, let's get Closer to the Heart.  Oooh yeah, oooh,
>>        yeah.

Ah, but Alex and Geddy *do* still have input!  Remember *these* classic

   "Catch the mystery, catch a fish..."   -- Geddy, ASOH

   "Sang some sad songs, and I drank twelve beers"  -- Geddy, GUP video

   "Closer to your house...a closet in your house"  -- Alex, Fresno (Cp)

   " ????? !"  -- Geddy, ESL (La Villa Strangiato)

   "One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball"  -- Geddy

I guess Neil hasn't *quite* had the impact we'd all like to THINK he did..

Subj:   #2(2) 04/24/95 - The National Midnight Star #1089
Date:   Mon, Apr 24, 1995 6:27 PM CST

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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:10:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: prelude...

what follows is a little logout i threw together just for fun.  y'all
can have a copy, if'n you're wily enough to get it to work for you.

here it comes...



Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:11:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: the RTB logout... simple and cool.

$ fly
$ set term/width=80
$ type sys$input

          ===========   ===     ===    ============   ===     ===
          ===           ===     ===    ===            ===     ===
          ===           ===     ===    ============   ===========
          ===           ===     ===             ===   ===     ===
          ===           ===========    ============   ===     ===

		          "Why are we here?"

			         "Because we're here!"

			               "Roll the Bones..."



Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:40:05 -0500
From: (Gary Conners)
Subject: Re: warm memory chips...

Hi Rush fans,

     In NMS #1086, Cygnus wrote:

>there next to the stage..hidden in the darkness..was a >synthesiser
setup..with several monitors..and someone standing by >the
the boyz at that time had a small synth for >alex and a small syth for
geddy..and a pedal that would say >"thats nice" my question is...WHO
IS THIS PHANTOM THAT I >SAW??? was he playing keyboards in the background

This is bothering me also, Cygnus.  When I saw Rush for the first and only
time on the CP tour (sorry, it took me awhile to see the light), I was
amazed at how it seemed that everything I heard was somehow played on the
stage.  I never liked bands that use a lot of overdubbing on the albums,
although Rush does it also. (I'm beginning to realize that overdubbing is
necessary to make an album sound good and that it's not bad to use the
technology we have.)  The fact that Rush writes all their own music and can
play it all without anybody else filling in really gave me a great
appreciation for them.  If I find out that somebody was backstage playing a
keyboard, I will not only lose some respect for Rush (although it will be
easy to gain it back), but I'll have to eat the words I said when praising
Rush to non-Rush fans.  I would also appreciate any information anybody else
has on this subject.


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:07:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alan Schussman 
Subject: Rush and Rush? Yikes!

>Heinz Reiske  said:
>        Last week I had the pleasure of attending the RUSH Limbaugh show.
>        In the past, Rush has used some songs by Rush as "bumper music"
>in between commercial breaks, and I always wondered if there might be some
>sort of connection between the two RUSH's.  So, I asked him, "Are you
>a Rush fan?"  His reply was yes!

	Yikes!  Are you sure he wasn't replying that he is a fan of himself?

		.. Alan


Date:        Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:59:59 EST
From: Steven Horwitz 
Subject: lyrical literary references

Just a few additions to Corey Harbaugh's list of lyrical references:

The title of the song "Anthem" is borrowed from Rand.

"Entre Nous" is a phrase used several times by Gail Wynand in Rand's
novel *The Fountainhead*

"In the Mood" is of course a famous big band tune (Glen Miller)

"The Spirit of Radio" lifts the last verse from Paul Simon's lyrics to
"The Sound of Silence"

"Between the Wheels" refers to "Brother can you spare..." which is from
"Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?" a depression-era song I believe

Lastly, and most obviously, "Red Lenses" which borrows the title of
this very forum from that mysterious Canadian TV show referred to in
the FAQ :).

Two quick points:
1) bravo to Will Collier's tribute album suggestions (in 4/20)!
2) rush-mgr:  even though you got snippy with my recent long and only
slightly Rush-oriented post  a couple of issues ago (deservedly so
in retrospect), my compliments on running an efficient, civil, and
very enjoyable sector of cyberspace

   [ I just hadn't had my daily allowance of popcorn! I have now, and feel
     much better :-)                                          : rush-mgr ]

The Professor

"Wheels within wheels in a spiral array
A pattern so grand and complex
Time after time we lose sight of the way
Our causes can't see their effects"


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:26:54 EST
From: "cApT. iNcOmPeTeNt" 
Subject: RE: 04/20/95 - The National Midnight Star #1087

In answer to the post about the ride cymbal: Neil probably uses an 20" Avedis
Zildjian ride cymbal. Either that or he uses an A Custom, of probably the same
size. I'll betcha that he does use more than jone, seeing how his ride patterns
have a wide variety of tonal qualities. At any rate, you can find out exactly
what he used on the Counterparts album by reading a copy, I think that it's
either the Dec, Jan, or Feb, issue (1994) of Modern Drummer.



Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:33:02 PST
From: "Jund, Michael" 

     Fellow Rushters,


     THis is Michael Jund again asking for a list of all the song Alex
     Lifeson sings on, and in your opinion the best guitar solos from the
     man.  I will play this list next Thursday April 27th on my radio show
     here at Loyola Marymount University.

     Thanks for all of your help.


From: Mr Darren I Lacey 
Subject: Rush Numbers
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 23:05:42 BST

Hail fellow Rushians!
	No big diatribes on The Trees you'll be glad to hear! The Lottery 
started here in England about 2 months ago, and my numbers so far have not 
even come close. So, can any of you think of any RUSH related numbers? I have 
21 and 12 (surprise surprise!), but can think of no others (1001001=73 and the 
numbers are from 1 to 49). Any ideas? If you think this is too trivial to be a 
thread, then e-mail me privately with any ideas.

BTW Has anyone else noticed how much the song Synchronicity II by the Police
sounds *just* like a RUSH song?
See Ya,
Darren Lacey				'Too many rapids
					 Keep us sweeping along,			 Too many captains
					 Keep on steering us wrong'
Surrey University
					 Second Nature - RUSH


From: King Jorge 
Subject: YKYARFW
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 21:07:14 CDT

Just my $.02 worth:

	You entitled your program manager "Rushville Central Intelligence,"
	Your wallpaper consists of the Tortise and the Hare from CP, Windows
	opens to the sound of Big Money, closes to "That's Nice," and every
	time you push a key that windows doesn't like, you here,
	"Don't swallow your tongue..."

	Bored and avoiding my Assembler Program,



Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:27:43 -0600
From: " an enchanter" 
Subject: MFSL

Ok, who out there thinks the 2112 and Moving Pictures MFSL remasters
are worth $20 if one already has the 'originals' on CD?



Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:20:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Beaudoin 
Subject: to Rich at KU

Yes, I would be interested in knowing when Rush tribute bands are coming
to the area, but I no longer am at UMKC!  Try to guess where I am now.
Hint: check out my userid.

Rush content:  I got the KC Royals hat from the Mr. Big lead singer when
Rush played in KC a few years ago.

Tom Beaudoin


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:29:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Beaudoin 
Subject: By Tor ... and the Snow Cone!

Once again, someone has baited me with a great chance for a Rush parody.

By-Tor and the Snow Cone
Outside the video arcade
Looking for more quarters
My best friend By-Tor is a geek
A real snot-snorter

I see him approach me with something icy cold
A summer snack, crunchy, fruity and bold!

By-Tor and his Snow Cone!
If I walked away right now, they'd be each other's friend!

Across the parking lot I amble really fast
Because I just figured out By-Tor has gas
But I turn around to see him striking a mean pose
His Snow Cone attacks and ices him in the nose

By-Tor and his Snow Cone!
Square for battle -- let the fray begin!!

[imagine lots of horrid battle music here, with Neil on kazoo
representing By-Tor and Geddy's distorted Rick representing the Snow Cone]

Snow Cone is victorious!
No more geeks in the arcade
Let's go ba-ack!


Sorry that you all had to endure that .

Tom Beaudoin


Date:          Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:36:12 +0000
Subject:       Re: 04/20/95 - The National Midnight Star #1087

>It's 'bout 4:00 AM and I'm bored.  I'm listening to Presto while
>studying Calc.  Then I start thinking about how many people would like to hear
>Presto, the song, live.  "What are the chances of that happening?" I ask
>Not good, I conclude.  See, I know the set lists from about GUP pretty
>well, and I know Presto, RTB, and CP for sure.  My studies show that if they
>don't play a song on that album's supporting tour, they never play it.
> If anyone has conflicting evidence (set lists) then I'm perfectly willing to 
> admit I'm wrong...

Actually, Witch Hunt was a song that they never played on the Moving
Pirctures tour.  (As a matter of fact they didn't play it until the
P/G tour, if I remember correctly.)  The reason for this was that
it was supposed to be a studio piece not meant to play live
because they used a lot of keyboards and Neil double tracked his
drums.  Later on, after the Fear trilogy was complete (and the
technology was developed to allow them to play this song as a three
piece) they played it live.

I don't think they play Presto live because of the way Alex's guitar
abruptly switches from electric to acoustic guitar.  Now there are
guitars coming out that have both an electric pickup in them and an
"acoustic" pickup so that a player can switch sounds instantly.  Now
that technology has "caught up" maybe they will add the song!


From: Jared Strasburg 
Subject: Rush Lit. Allusions
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:40:40 -0600 (CDT)

Ernest Hemingway made heavy use of the phrase "grace under pressure"
and, if I remember correctly, also spoke of the "lost generation" after
WWI ("lost generation" from Between the Wheels). Both fairly questionable,
but could be construed as allusions to Hemingway.

Jared Strasburg


Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:15:38 -0400
Subject: During PW

During PW time.....
The man that was seen in "the light" changing disks backstage on the keyboard
was Jack Secret.  (Pg.88) on VISIONS. The Keyboard was an Emulator II. This
was used for the small orchestra on Manhattan Project and the choir sound on
"Jack Secret changes the discs backstage, but physically Alex and I must
trigger them onstage" - ged boy.


Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:29:09 -0400
Subject: Hitler Theory

It's strange that one talks about Hitler recently here on NMS.
I was just saying to my brother the other day that I know the answer....
I know where all the (good) bass players went.
Hitler must have had them killed.
This isn't too funny....but think about it- Ged's a jew. Ged is great.
Oh well,
If your a teen Geddy looking for a band - E MAIL ME!!
p.s. I've got a mini-moog    heh heh                     THANKS!!


Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:52:17 -0400
Subject: Peart's set...

I was wanting to know if anyone could tell me what type of stuff Peart uses,
such as Hat sizes and toms, etc.  I'm particularily interested in finding out
the cymbal sizes which could include splash, ride, and hats.
Also, could someone tell me about snares and bass drums in terms of what
sizes sound tighter (snare) and deeper bass sound?  Thanks.


Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:05:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: ** RiOT Nrrd! *  
Subject: Re: RUSHINFO V1.0 -assessment, IMHO

On Thu, 20 Apr 1995 wrote:

> Me again!
> I just downloaded the Rush Info Help file for Windows from syrinx.  I want to
> say to its creator,  Paul Singh , THANKS FOR NOT
> HAVING A LIFE!!!  This thing is GREAT!  I often reference my copy of the FAQ,
> but this help file puts all the info, and MUCH more, into an easy to use and
> FUN format.

Hey, I'd like to think I have at least some semblance of a life! :)
Anyway, thanks for the kind words, I'm glad you like it.  While I'm at
it, I'd like to publicly thank Meg Jahnke, Jimmy Lang, and Dan Delany
who are responsible for the bulk of the information contained in

> I have some Rush icons that you might be interested in.  As soon as I have
> some more time, I'll see about uploading them to syrinx.

That'd be great -- thanks in advance.

 - Paul Singh

| RiOT Nrrd * -- * RiOT Nrrd |
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