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         The National Midnight Star, Number 1092

                   Thursday, 4 May 1995
Today's Topics:
                         Red Star
                  Synths and Literature
               Selections for Rush tribute
                     I Had a Dream...
                    Moving Pictures CD
              Literary references... and REM
                   Two quick questions
             Rush/Led Zeppelin (was tribute)
                Mystic Rhythms - The Book
                Signals Ultra-Disc errata!
                   The Police and Rush
     Re: 04/21/95 - The National Midnight Star #1088
                        new topic
                   Visions/Lit./& stuff
                     Re: Rush/Guitars
        tribute/first post/tribute to first posts
                     Bridge of Sighs
                        Rush Hour
               VanHalen immitates no one!!!
     Re: 04/20/95 - The National Midnight Star #1087
                 Favorite Guitar Solo(s)
                       Re:  Dubois
         Song lyrics and the evils of overplaying
                   Hitler and the Jews
                       Random stuff
            Forest Grump takes temporary leave
         Rush by Brian Harrigan...just a reminder
                 literary influences....
                    RUSH tribute picks
                       In the news
                    Unimportant stuff
                     Boston and Rush

From: (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Thu May  4 19:31:28 EDT 1995
Subject: Administrivia

Well I've been silent enough here... I'm still *WAY* behind on admin mail. I'm
trying out a new script that'll run from a separate machine, we'll see how
well it works in adding/dropping people (since neither the sysadmin nor I have
the time or energy to make perl work on here!)

Just be patient, and PLEASE remember to send your sub/unsub to the CORRECT
ADDRESS. Thank you.

 - rush-mgr


Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 09:21:07 est
From: "Dintaman, Donald" 
Subject: Red Star

     Hi fellow posters,

     Please forgive me for this question because I'm sure it's been asked a
     thousand times on here. But can somebody help me out with the meaning
     of the Man and Star.  People always ask me what it means and I have a
     hard time trying to explain it to them.

     The Alex Solo that brings out the most emotion in me = "LIMELIGHT"

     For misinterpreted lyrics:  My 7 year old sister thinks that in Fly By
     Night, Geddy sings: "Chicken McNuggets I just can't resist" instead of
     "My ship isn't coming...."  I've never told her different. or

     1995 Smit Dog remix

     "Halfway Park, tennis in the breeze"
     "Halfway Park, so many memories"


Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 10:50:51 -0500
From: (Ed Blonski)
Subject: Synths and Literature

Greetings fellow readers!
This post has a two-fold topic.

1) I've been listening to the albums from MP through RTB quite a bit lately.
I've also been reading the tourbook transcriptions from RushInfo for Windows
(get it if you haven't and can!). I've also read some of the interview
transcriptions from the syrinx FTP site. I've taken quite a bit of interest
in the synthesizer work of Geddy and how its progressed through the years.
In doing this, I've determined, for myself alone, that the best use of
synthesizers in the Rush catalog has got to be Hold Your Fire. When I say
"best use" I mean, composition, performance, and mixing. There is a steady
progression in Geddy's proliferation of synth playing that culminates with
his work on Hold Your Fire.
  Your thoughts?

2) People have been batting back and forth the literary influences of Neil
in his lyric writing. I think we can all agree that they are Legion! But I
was especially interested in the different literary devices that Neil uses.
A while back I pointed out the device of story telling bringing about a
reality (in Hemispheres). BTW, thanks for the person who pointed me to this
same device used by R.A. Heinlein in The Number of the Beast - I hadn't
really noticed it the first time I read it, I'll be re-reading it again soon!
My question is:
  Has anyone else notice other literary devices that Neil has used in his
lyric writing?

Please remember that with a new album not on the near horizon, the list
topics tend to get very varied! (as well as quite silly sometimes!) Other
lists would shut down in the time period between new material, so we can
count ourselves quite lucky to have so much to talk about in the lean years!

*Ed Blonski ( "One likes to believe in the     *
*Rush fan (the band and the man!)       Freedom of Email!" TNMS         *
*Titus 1:5-9                           "But I'm young enough to remember*
*Soon to be Alumni of Concordia         the future and the way things   *
*Seminary, St. Louis, 1995              ought to be!" NP                *


Date: 26 Apr 1995 13:40:34 -0500
From: "Robert Sharkey" 
Subject: Selections for Rush tribute

As a continuation of a thread started by Will Collier, I offer my selections of
artists and Rush songs for the "ideal" Rush tribute album.

I listen to most of these artists, but not all. I'm also caught between wanting
the artists to do a faithful reproduction of the original songs as Rush did
them, yet I yearn to have the artist improvise and interpret the song in the
manner they feel appropriate.

1. Queensryche: Natural Science /or/ Cygnus X-1
2. [That Japanese Drum Troop]: YYZ
3. Megadeath: Spirit of Radio
4. Melissa Etheridge: Closer to the Heart
5. Alice In Chains: A Farewell To Kings
6. Eric Clapton: Working Man
7. Toronto Symphony Ochestra: La Villa Strangiato (!)
8. Tori Amos: Tears
9. Sound Garden: Anthem
10. Pearl Jam: Between the Wheels
11. Metallica: By-Tor & the SnowDog /or/ Cygnus X-1
12. Garth Brooks: Cold Fire

Next week, I might change my mind ... :->


Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 10:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: I Had a Dream...

     Last night I dreamed that the entire cast of the "We Are The World"
     video was singing "Subdivisions".  I didn't actually see Rush there,
     but some Geddy-ish looking girl was singing the lead, and everyone
     else sang along (James Earl Jones did the "Subdivisions" voice).  It
     was beautiful, except that most people couldn't keep up with the 7/8
     parts and ended up dropping out or mumbling along.

     I'm weird.


Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:11:20 -0700
Subject: Moving Pictures CD

     I spoke to Polygram on April 26, 1995, and the address I was given to
     return the defective CDs to is:

        Attn: Celie / Warranty Dept
        9999 E 121 Street
        Fishers, IN 46038

     I just sent my old CD in, so I don't know yet if this works.  I didn't
     get the correct 800 number, but the one listed was for the accounts

     -- peace


Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 18:47:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Fornaris Watson 
Subject: Literary references... and REM

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet...apologies if it has...but I
believe "let us not go gently into the endless winter night" from Red
Tide is adapted from a poem whose name and author escapes me.
And to whomever mentioned a short section of "Bang and Blame" sounding
like SoR - that to me is the most Rush-like section of any non-Rush song
I've ever heard.
Just my dos centavos.


From: Gore_Josh/
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 19:05:57 -0400
Subject: Two quick questions

Hi y'all,

I have two questions that you fellow Rushites can most likely answer for

1)  Is there any way I can obtain the "Take Off" single which Geddy Lee
sang for Bob and Doug MacKenzie (John Candy and Dave Thomas) on their
comedy album?

2)  Is Alex's last name pronounced "life" or "leaf" in the first
syllable?  My friend says it's "leaf" but I think it's "life".

Please post your responses on the next TMNS. Muchas gracias!
"Wheels within wheels in a spiral array
 A pattern so grand and complex
 Time after time we lose sight of the way
 Our causes can see their effect"
                     -- Neil


Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 19:18:47 +0500
From: (John Bishop)
Subject: Rush/Led Zeppelin (was tribute)

>	It would be nice for example to see how a band like (the remaining
> members of) Led Zeppelin would cope with some of the rush songs.
>	-the first album would be *dead* easy :-).

That first album is so distinct from any of the others, it's almost like
listening to another band.  So was that how Rush got started, playing
a lot of Led Zeppelin stuff?

Then on the second record, the Led Zeppelin sound is history, replaced
by many of the trademark sounds that you can still hear on
Counterparts.  I've always been a bit surprised at how abrupt that
change was and how consistent the band has been ever since.  Any

Jonathan Bishop


Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:07:58 EDT
Subject: Mystic Rhythms - The Book

Hey all,

        Did anyone ever find that book Mystic Rhythms: The Philosophy of
Rush by Carol Selby Price?  I really want to take a look at it so if anyone
has it or knows where to get it can you please let me know?


YKYARFW...You have a different Rush .WAV file for every event in Windows.


Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:47:04 -0700
From: (Toby D Sanchez)
Subject: Signals Ultra-Disc errata!

Hey dudes (and dudettes!)

(Apologies if this is a repeat topic)

How many of you have snagged the ultra-disc of 'Signals'.

Listen to 'The Weapon'.  There is a section of the song that starts at 3:15
and ends at 3:25 (just before the middle 'interlude' section of the song)
where normally we hear the a section of the chorus that goes 'And the
things that he fears, are a weapon to be held against him'.  However, on
the Ultra-Disc version, that vocal seciton is GONE!  Is this a rare thing,
or did Mobile Fidelity just screw up?

Inquiring minds want to know....


Toby D Sanchez >><<
"This heavy heart that I carry... still holds the
weight of you.  And when I fall, as I always do,
I'm crushed by the absence of you." - Front 242


From: "Mike Horwitz" 
Date:          Wed, 26 Apr 1995 19:44:22 +0000
Subject:       The Police and Rush

Hi all,

In NMS 1089, Darren Lacey commented on how much Synchronicity II by
the Police sounds like Rush. Has anyone noticed how much New World
Man sounds like the Police?

I must thank whoever it was that did the RushInfo thing. It is great.

Also, if anyone taped the Live unplugged show, can you PLEASE let me


Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk hand in hand


Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 20:13:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Robert Bird (SAIL)" 
Subject: Re: 04/21/95 - The National Midnight Star #1088

King's X blow Rush away?  HA!  can you hit wonder...or night
clubs forever...come on, you're in a Rush meca here, not a slam fest on
the 8, 9, and 10th wonder of the universe.


Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:42:33 -0700 (MST)
From: "Ryan Douglas Redalen" <>
Subject: new topic

Time for a new topic everyone.

List your favorite keyboard work by Geddy.  I like anything off of
Signals, my favorite being  "The Weapon".

I would also like to know how many of you out there think the Necromancer
is possibly Rush's best song.  Alex's guitar playing on that song is amazing.

And to Donald Dintamin (I forget his E-mail address), please do not put
inside jokes (Paw Paw Raw Paw's?) on the NMS.  No one knows what you are
talking about and I don't want to read it.  Thank you.

Ryan Redalen

P.S.  The Hinkles got some fragile knees and Jay Lew needs to take a walk.


Date:     Thu, 27 Apr 95 9:57:32 EDT
From: ASQM-SWP-G (Galaxy) 
Subject:  Visions/Lit./& stuff

Good day all,

First, I'd like to provide the info for RUSH:Visions as requested by
Arthur in #1090.  It is as follows and comes from the Library of Congress:

Banasiewicz, Bill.
  Rush visions : the official biography / by Bill Banasiewicz.  London ; New
York : Omnibus Press ; New York, NY, USA : Exclusive distributors, Music Sales
Corp., c1988.  96 p. ; ill. (some col.) ; 29 cm.

LC CALL NUMBER: ML421.R87 B36 1988

  Rush (Musical group)
  Rock musicians--Canada--Biography.

DEWEY DEC:  782.42166/092/2  B dc20

  Discography: p. 95-96.

ISBN:  0711911622
GEOG. AREA CODE:  n-cn---
LCCN:  91-209151 MN r94

As for the RUSH Lit thing,  just some minow things:
Rivendell is on Fly By Night, not COS.

Red Tide uses a line simialar to the title and a line in a
poem by Dylan Thomas called Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night

Rocinante is mentioned in both parts of the Cygnus epic.

oh, and to Chris at York College, Lock and Key was indeed played
live on the HYF tour.  i'd love to see it again though.  keep  your fingers

oh, and i think the Camera Eye was also based on/inspired by something or
another. i'll have to check Visions.  unless anyone can help.

how's this for a cover: Pearl Jam doing Rivendell?

that's it for now.

as ever, JP
"the mad immortal man..."

                                     "Greet a passing stranger
			Feel the strength in his hand
			Feel the world expand"       - NP


Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 10:26:24 -0400
From: (Joe Chiro)
Subject: Re: Rush/Guitars

>Best Living Guitarist
>1)Eddie Van Halen
>2)Eric Johnson
>3)Joe Satriani
>4)Alex Lifeson
>5)Steve Morse

Hey, how come no one has mentioned John Petrucci in this thread?  Truely,
one of the (if not THE) greatest living rock guitar players.

>>sort of connection between the two RUSH's.  So, I asked him, >"Are you a
>>Rush fan?"  His reply was yes!
>And Hitler loved children.

Actually, Rush has used Rush as bumper music MANY times, including songs
like Bravado, Distant Early Warning, and Subdivisions.  He's also spoken
about them on the air briefly (after using one their songs for bumper
music).  It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was a Rush fan.

>It's a shame that even on the usually above average literacy level reflected
>in TNMS that this demigogue appears.
>Rush is not your typical ROCK band and the fans are not your typical ROCK
>fans so lets keep our dignity as such and try to stear clear of such nasty
>topics in the future.

Ah, censorship.  First the liberals try to censor what we hear on the
radio (Fairness Doctrine), now it's what we post on the NMS.  Neil would
be so proud.  



From: "RRush@CLC.CC.IL.US" 
Date:          Thu, 27 Apr 1995 10:02:28 CST
Subject:       tribute/first post/tribute to first posts

G'day eh,

I had to throw a couple of cents into the Rush Tribute fountain:

I'd like to see a trade, Neil and Alex playing an extended, more
complex version of "Wipeout" and the Beach Boys playing "I Think I'm
Going Bald" (the latter just because I think it would be funny -

By (tor) the way, this is my first post and congrats to all the other
first-posters out there!

ORQ - "Draw another goblet, from the cask of forty-three"
Does anyone know what the cask of forty-three is a reference to?

Thank you very much, goood night!


Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 9:36:09 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Bridge of Sighs

Okay, okay -- geez, this one's gonna follow me to my grave.  I goofed
when I said that Bridge of Sighs was a rip-off of The Necromancer.  I'd
never heard it before, and then heard it on the radio twice in a week and
thought it was a new song.  Thanks to all the people who let me know that
Bridge of Sighs predated COS.  Y'all can stop now -- I got the message.



Date: Thu, 27 Apr 95 13:39:01 -0400
Subject: HemiTB?

    Does anybody out there in NMSland have a Hemispheres tourbook that they
would like to sell/trade? I mean... why would you want it? After all, it's so

Lemme Know, ( no relation to Lemmy Kilminster of Motorhead )



From: Colin!!!!! 
Subject: Rush Hour
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 15:33:00 -0600 (MDT)

Hi- I recently obtained a live compilation called "Rush Hour" in
Berlin, Germany. I was wondering if anyone could clue me in to the
origins of this CD. It doesn't seem to be put out by the boys, but
it's way too nice to be just a boot. (12 page full color insert,
picture disc, etc.) Please reply to me personally, I'd be much
obliged! thanks!


From: (Joseph DeAngelis)
Subject: VanHalen immitates no one!!!
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 18:53:42 -0500 (EDT)

  This is a response to the post on April 18th by

  WHO ARE YOU KIDDING!!! Van Halen immitates NO ONE!!!

  1) The drum solo on Balance, all be it a decent one at best, in no way
     sounds like or immitates *any* Neil Peart solos. Just because Alex
     uses a drum machine for some sequences does not mean he is trying
     to be like Neil.

  2) Second, the song Pleasure Dome by Van Halen, which sucks by the way,
     is nothing like Xanadu, in sound, lyrics, or anything else.

  3) And finally, Eddy does not even listen to other music, instead he
     prefers to constantly write his own stuff.  In an interview on MTV,
     Sammy Hagar made a point of this because he thought it was odd that
     everytime he would hear a good song and ask Eddy if he heard it, the
     answer would be NO.

  My first love when it comes to music is RUSH, but I think Van Halen is
  cool as well, in fact, I am looking forward to seeing them on April 29,
  in good old wocester Mass.; after all, we all got to do something while
  waiting for RUSH to tour again ... Take care.

		A E R O D Y N E    R E S E A R C H,  I N C.
			    Joseph DeAngelis
  			Systems Software Engineer
 45 Manning Road				Phone:    508-663-9500 Ext.277
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:25:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Karen Lawrence 
Subject: Re: 04/20/95 - The National Midnight Star #1087

YKYARFW>>> you research the DMV system for handing out plates and stay at the 
correct office just so you can get YYZ2112 as a plate..

	You get in touch with your female side (or male side, if you're one of 
us rare female fans) just b/c of Animate

	You start a frat or sorority called gamme gamma Zeta.. (if you don't 
get this, look up the greek alphabet in your encyclopedia. gamme looks like a 
lowercase y, a capital Zeta is a Z)

	You go looking through encyclopedia's for greek characters just so you 
can create a "YKYARFW"


Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:42:15 -0500
From: (William Geraths Jr)
Subject: Favorite Guitar Solo(s)

Well, since everyone is posting their favorite guitar solos...  Here is my
two cents worth.

        Natural Science: HyperSpace - very energetic, and raw sounding.
        The Spirit of Radio - excellent tone
        The Camera Eye - Another that has an excellent tone
        Working Man (ATWAS) - I think that Alex a couple too many daquiris
        Witch Hunt (ASOH) - Hey, that should've been in the studio version
        And of course all of the others...

See Ya, and Rush On?!!?

*** SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS  ***   "Attention all planets of the Solar Federation...
***   ***    We have assumed control..."  N. Peart


Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:21:14 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re:  Dubois

On Thu, 20 Apr 1995 wrote:

> To the person who thought that the names of Talbot and Dubois were just named
> of buddies that the person stuck on the CD....YOU'RE WAY WRONG!!
> Pierre (sp?) Dubois not only wrote Tom Saweryer with Rush, but also wrote
> "Superconducter" off of PRESTO, and "Between Sun and Moon" off of

	You're correct about TS and BSAM, but where'd you get
"Superconductor"?  Dubois didn't co-write that one, unless the boys just
didn't give him credit for some odd reason.

>    [ I believe you mean Pye Dubois...                         : rush-mgr ]

	Oh, come on!  "Pierre" fits much better with the last name!  :)

> Dubois is a really good friend of Neil Pearts....refer to the Counterparts
> inworld premiere interview from October of 1993.

	You mean there's more than one Neil Peart?  Wow!!  That explains how
the drums on "Scars" were done in one take!

"We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost."


Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:28:25 -0500
Subject: Song lyrics and the evils of overplaying

>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:31:40 -0500
Subj:   #2(2) 05/04/95 - The National Midnight Star #1092
Date:   Fri, May 5, 1995 2:13 AM CST

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>From: Mike Bruneau 
>Subject: song lyrics
>What's this i'm hearing about Lee and Lifeson not being able to write good
>example...hey, baby, let's get closer to the heart....TNMS 1086....
>Well....just remember, Lee wrote the lyrics for "Different Strings" and that
>song is one of my favorites....and Lifeson wrote the lyrics for "Lessons"
>off of 2112.  There's nothing wrong with the lyrics in either of these
>songs!!!!  It might be that Peart might have a little more of a philosophical
>mind than L and L, but they ALL can write lyrics.......

        Well...sure Geddy and Alex can write song lyrics, and they're OK,
really they are, but I'm sorry, it just does not compare to Neil.  And it's
not just a matter of philosophy, his song lysics are simply *well written*.
Content aside, the phrasing, the imagery, the meter, by whatever standard
you which to use, his lyrics are high quality.  Most of his song lyrics
would read very well as poetry (think of the Spirit of Radio or Witch Hunt)
or prose (Red Barchetta, e.g.).  Personally I would rank Neil up with Mark
Knopfler, Peter Gabriel, Paul Simon and Roger Waters as the greater gods of
rock lyrics. If I had any criticism about Neil's lyrics, it's that they are
generally short on insight; he's a keen observer of people and their
foibles (i.e. fuckups for those of you not studying for the SAT's) but not
one to spark a revelation.  IMHO.

>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 23:05:46 EDT
>Subject: Re: 04/18/95 - The National Midnight Sta
Speaking as one who has burned out on
>played-out Rush masterpieces like "The Spirit of Radio", "Closer to the
>Heart", and of course, "Tom Sawyer" (I await the flames.), as well as
>classics like the Stones' "Satisfaction", I have to respectfully disagree.
>You can have way too much of a good thing.  Hearing the same songs over and
>over again from a band that has such a vast and diverse catalog is kind of

        I've actually called this phenomenon the Tom Sawyer Syndrome:
hearing a fantastic song so many times you begin to forget just how good it
is.  Other songs in this category, to me, are Pearl Jam's Jeremy and,
currently, Live's Lightning Crashes, an absolutely first rate song that I'm
beginning get sick of simply because I'm hearing it three times a day on
the radio.  On the other hand, there are occasionally songs that never
sound stale, after hundreds of times through.  Personal examples to me are
Born to Run and Light My Fire, two songs that for whatever reason I just
never get tired of hearing.

       "Share if it makes you sleep,
        If it sets you free,
        If it helps you breathe." -C.C.


From: "Randy Marquis" 
Date:          Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:59:24 EST
Subject:       Hitler and the Jews

    All right.  I wasn't going to say anything.  I was going to bite
my tongue (for once).  But I have to say that the references to
Hitler on TMNS have been very off-color, and very offensive.

"Why did Hitler kill the Jews?  b/c he did, Roll The Bones!"

Excuse me?!?  Hitler commited mass murder of over 7 million Jewish
people, because he was a very sick and disturbed man bent on world
conquest.  He had a very distorted view of the world, thinking that
all of Germany's problems were caused by the Jewish population.  I
don't remember who wrote this quote, but I find it very tasteless.
Secondly, another person commented on why there are no (good) bass
players left, and it was because Hitler killed all the Jews
(following the Geddy is a good bassist, Geddy is a Jew, all Jew's are
good bassists, Hitler killed most of the Jews, so Hitler killed most
of the bassists?).  Once again, EXCUSE ME?
    Hitler's massacre of the the Jews during WWII is a very serious
topic, one that shouldn't be trivialized by silly comments like the
above mentioned.
    This a respectible forum for discussing/parody/trashing of Rush's
music.  I enjoy most of the discussions, but this stuff just leaves a
bad taste in my mouth.  To the folks who wrote this trash:  try to
stay awake in history might learn something.


P.S.  I'm NOT sorry for the lack of Rush content.  This is just
something that had to be addressed...and I'm not sorry if this seems
like a flame...


Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:56:44 PST
From: "Jund, Michael" 
Subject: Random stuff


        Your Rush DJ back on the air asking for more suggestions.  Please
     e-mail your favorite Peart drum work list so that I can play it on my
     radio show next week.  Make the list however long you want.  Thanks!

        The other day in my Flight Sciences class we started talking about
     black holes and my teacher mentioned the closest black hole to earth
     is Cygnus X-1.  For the rest of the day I could not get both the
     Cygnus songs out of my head.

        In the November 1992 issue of Communication Theory (scholarly
     journal that I was using for a paper) I came across a section on the
     use of Distant Early Warning (DEW).  page 298.  Here is what it said:

        "When we say the exception proves the rule, we mean the exception
     makes us attend to the rule more than we would have if it had not
     happened.  (sound familiar?).  In an example from the Cold War, in the
     1960s the Distance Early Warning (DEW) (yes, distance, not distant)
     line of radar screens and computers in Northern Canada announced a
     Soviet intercontinental ballistic missile attack on North America.
     The computer system misread the radar signals bouncing off the moon as
     an attack because the programmers had not prepared the machine to
     anticipate such an occurrence.  This break in the list produced an
     organizational story, and there have been many similar, almost annual,
     stories about DEW line radar since then."

     Thats all folks.  Thanks for caring.

     Michael Jund


Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 18:12:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sabina Becker - JOUD/F94 
Subject: Forest Grump takes temporary leave

Hello everyone.

I'm unsubbing momentarily because my school's Internet link shuts down to
all but authorized summer students on May 5.  Sorry I'll have to miss
some worthwhile stuff, but maybe when I return, the Trees debate will
have been replaced by some more intriguing point to argue over (oh nooo,
don't get her started again!)

I have to say...Considering how high the male/female ratio here is, I was
really expecting more guys to flame me on what everyone has probably
guessed are some radical, feminist views.  Much to my surprise, the only
really abusive missive I got was from someone going by a female name.
(Although it could have been an alias for a sick pervert who
cross-dresses, or for a zit-faced 15-year-old loser who got pissed when
his fake ID was confiscated at the door to some strip joint...who
knows.)  In any case, regardless of whether anyone here agrees with my
views or not, there's no sense in getting uptight over it.  I don't need
the grief, and you don't need to hear my sharp retorts.

I'll be rather busy, as I start a new full-time job Monday; I'll be an ad
copywriter, entry level (naturally!) for a German-language newspaper.
But I hope to get back on again in a few weeks time.

The world ain't perfect yet, but there's a little more hope in this
corner of it anyhow.  Many thanks to the guys who've been chatting with
me privately; I'll keep in touch and try to send my freenet address as
soon as I get one.  I'm taking down addresses from all those I'm
currently chatting with.  In case I miss you, post a brief notice here in
a few weeks, say a month to be safe, just to remind me of where you are.
Discussions are fun; flaming is not. So: Hold Your Fire!


* You can make me smile, in the end...


Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 19:34:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Rush by Brian Harrigan...just a reminder

  Just a reminder, since I haven't seen it as a post.  I transcribed the first
book about the band, _Rush_ by Brian Harrigan.  It was sent as a post (and
must have been huge), but looks like rush-mgr hasn't had a chance to post it.
I've seen it reposted on, so I thought I would let those of
you who didn't know it was there in on it.  It should be at the FTP site, I
assume still in the incoming dir.
  Hope you find it, hope you enjoy it, forgive any typos (my fingers were
killing me!  :) )



Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 21:32:22 -0500
From: (Garet Jax)
Subject: literary influences....

Sorry to post this to the whole nms, but i lost the email address of the
guy who is keeping this list...

I think a relavant and important literary influence(which i don't _think_ i
saw there...) is the bible. The most glaring example is "The meek shall
inherit the earth", but i know i read neil say something about biblical
imagery playing a big role in his lyrics....

anyway, later

             "A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it."
                                                           -- Oscar Wilde


Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:02:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kathy Dittrich 
Subject: RUSH tribute picks

I don't normally respond to the "wouldn't it rule/suck if Rush did..."
threads, but the old chestnut of the tribute album sort of intrigues me.
Here are my picks. Some of these are bands that I'm not normally fond of,
and some are bands that *sniff* don't exist any more. And mind you, I'm
not even really saying there should even BE a concept album! (There, I
think I've disclaimed everything...)

So anyway here goes:

The Necromancer -- Queensryche
What You're Doing -- Queen
Finding My Way -- Aerosmith
Rivendell -- Rob Wasserman & Emmylou Harris
Scars -- ClockDVA
Red Tide -- R.E.M.
Mystic Rhythms -- Sarah McLaughlin
YYZ -- Weather Report (YYYYESSSS!!!)
Analog Kid -- The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Ghost Of A Chance -- Eric Clapton
New World Man -- Sugar
Tai Shan -- Kate Bush
The Pass -- Kansas
Jacob's Ladder -- Laurie Anderson

E-mail me your favorite picks if you're embarrassed to post them here.


p.s. Oh yeah, almost forgot:

		Limelight -- Michael Bolton


Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 95 11:19:38 EDT
From: Paul Bartlett 
Subject:      Presto!

I had an idea for a cool way for Rush to open a show.  Those of you
who would like to hear Presto live would probably agree.  They open
with clips from the Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoons.  In every show
Bullwinkle would say "Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my
hat... nothin' up my sleeve... PRESTO!"  At that point, the lights come
on and they start into Presto.  They could even show a snippet or two
between songs with Rocky saying "Now here's something we hope you'll
really like."  It would be silly but fun.


 Paul Alexander Bartlett           Tel: (613) 545-6368
 Geography Department              Fax: (613) 545-6122
 Queen's University
 Kingston, Ontario
 K7L 3N6


Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 17:25:19 -0400
From: (Tim Hyland)
Subject: computers/Boston

        In #1087, somebody was saying that Boston brags about not using
computers in studio or live.  I think this is incorrect.  I own "Boston"
and "Don't Look Back" and I believe that Scholz used alot of computers on
both releases.  The band drew much criticism for doing so and, therefore,
on "Third Stage", which took 6 years to produce, they did not use any
computers or synths.  But they are still a cool band, and I plan to see
them in Cleveland in June.



Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 18:15:11 EDT
Subject: In the news

 I read this and thought you guys might like to hear about it...

        This is from the Fri. April 28 Detroit Free Press in an article
about the Queensryche concert that night.

        "The theatrical, mixed-media spectacle nods to
     forbears such as David Bowie, Rush and Pink Floyd
     as it flows through more than two hours of set
     changes, flashy video presentations and high-tech
     concept peices."

 Then in referring to a film that Queensryche shows...

        "Not many bands would do this-- Pink Floyd will,
     R.E.M., Rush," says tour manager and lighting director
     Howard Ungerleider.  "It puts a lot of pressure on everybody."


  "And the meek shall inherit the earth"

                -NP, 2112


Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 23:56:07 EST
Subject: Unimportant stuff


	I was pretty bored so I decided to look at some back issues of the NMS.
I looked at a few from June, '93.  It's pretty interesting how people, without
official documentation, assumed that "Counterparts" was, indeed, going to be
called "Critical Mass."

	I just found that amusing...

 -Chris at York College (a.k.a Scrappy, the very contagious monkey)
	The giant, savage So-ut is especially bloodthirsty and cruel, making it
a crowd favorite against unarmed opponents.
  	      Major League Baseball players...keep playing!


Date: Sun, 30 Apr 95 17:19:53 PDT
From: (Scott McAfee)
Subject: Boston and Rush

In issue 1087, David Panian wrote of Boston:

        I know Tommy Scholz is a mech-e grad of MIT, and having lived
        with a couple engineers in college, I know they can be picky
        about exactness . . .

Yeah. I read once that he liked to walk up and down the rows with a
frequency analyzer and white noise blaring through the speakers at
each venue in preparation for the shows.  His reason: fans pay so
much for tickets; they ought to get their $s worth.

David also mentioned the liner notes where Scholz condemns computers
et al.  Scholz is quite adamant (read: pretentious) on this issue.
I quote the following liners:

DON'T LOOK BACK: "No Synthesizers Used        No Computers Used"

THIRD STAGE:  ". . . Boston sound is powered by old, straight ahead
rock-n-roll equipment, as opposed to midi-interconnected-computer-

And finally, WALK ON:  "Boston doesn't take along sampler/computer/
tape stored studio recordings of vocals or other parts to fake it when
we perform on stage.  We actually bring instruments and play them."

This condemnation is enough to make the average Rush fan cringe with
a sudden pang of insecurity, followed by rage at Scholz for putting
the Boys down (indirectly, of course) with such strong words.  One
wonders when we will see "Save the Tube Amp Fund" next to "The Fund
for Animals" and all the other noble causes in the Boston liners.

Keep in mind though, that although Scholz is a purist, so are Alex,
Neil, and Geddy.  Their standards are different, that's all.  You
might even say that musically, Scholz is the "Analog Kid" to Rush's
"Digital Men". 8^)



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