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          The National Midnight Star, Number 168

                Thursday, 7 February 1991
Today's Topics:
                    Rush opening ascts
            The French Open and Hold Your Fire
                         The Pass
                       tour, tour!
                     RUSH guest jam?
        Opening acts and the mysterious letter "D"
               Anticipating new Rush albums
                        Frivolity
      Aimee Mann and Rush and pre-concert meetings.
                    Concertgoers unite
                 By Pass and the Road Hog
          Rush on MFSL Gold CDs (oooooohhhhhh!)
                   Album Poll Results!
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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 91 13:09:44 EST
From: herrera@tegra.com
Subject: Rush opening ascts

I saw Rush at the Orpheum Theatre in Boston, MA in 1978;
I think it was the "Farewell to Kings" tour. The opening
act was The Babys. I wished I'd showed up late......

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 91 13:19:20 -0500
From: dchao@ecn.purdue.edu (David H Chao)
Subject: The French Open and Hold Your Fire

   I wasn't aware that Geddy and Alex were big tennis fans.  I found it pretty
cool that my favorite group (well, 2/3 of it) happens to like my favorite sport.
   However, in regards to the French Open they saw during the HYF recording, I
believe that Chang won it in 1989, Wilander won it in 1988... but I am not
sure who won in 1987.  I'll probably go look it up, but in case I forget, does
anybody know who did win the French in 1987?  Whoever won, the boyz must have
had a good time to acknowledge Stade Roland Garros in the album.

   (I wonder what the head of Garros would have thought?  Maybe he/she's a
   Rush fan?  :-)

                                      -Dave

                  Need some chaos?  That's our specialty.

                        Chaotic Enterprises, Inc.

                         dchao@en.ecn.purdue.edu

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From: Kenneth Mark Maxham <max@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject: The Pass
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 91 13:10:02 CST

I wonder how many people realize that when Neal writes in The Pass:

     Someone set a bad example, made surrender seem alright
     the act of a noble warrior who lost the will to fight.
     Christ, what have you done?

that the word "Christ" is a noun and not an interjection.

| Mark Maxham  | No, his mind is not for rent, to any god or government |
| max@rice.edu | ... he knows changes aren't permanent.  But change is. |

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 91 09:57:17 hst
From: Hinano Akaka <bigtuna!hinano@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
Subject: tour, tour!

On the subject of going to concerts in groups on their next tour:

MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!  (hey, anyone from Hawaii wanna fly up?  I've
done it before and I'll do it again...!!!)

Puanani Akaka

Let's do it!

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 91 15:42 EST
From: V073NQA6@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu
Subject: RUSH guest jam?

I've posted to the local bulletin board and haven't gotten any response on t
this subject.  So here with my first post, I'll try.

Last semester, I caught a tune on the radio that was no Rush track that I
know, yet there was Geddy's voice and I'm not sure of the rest of the band.
Definitely in the song there was enough going on, for them to have been there.
I read a post on a board at about the same time that RUSH had jammed with
this band on their album.

Problem here is, I don't remember the group's name.  It was pretty obscure
to me.  I'd like to pick up a copy next time I'm up in Toronto.  I have
a feeling that the band was from up North.

[ I traded mail with Elvin, and we've ruled out the Gowan album w/Alex, and
  anything Geddy's done/doing w/Voivod.  He said it was new last fall, so
  this rules out "Battlescar" w/Max Webster.  Any other ideas?    :rush-mgr ]

							-elvin c.

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 91 15:08:57 -0800
From: David Conley <dmc@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Opening acts and the mysterious letter "D"

Patrick M. Ryan <pat@iris1.gsfc.nasa.gov> writes:

>helix      - grace under pressure; capital centre, largo, md
>             (they apparently were supposed to have
>              a band called zebra open but they canceled
                             ^^^^^
>              at the last minute)

WoW! That would have been a grrrreat show! Two super power trios on
the same bill. Too bad it never came to pass. (yep, I really dig Zebra)

On the subject of opening bands, .38 Special opened some of the shows
out west on the Permanent Waves tour. And if you really want to go back
a long way, I believe Rush opened for Manfred Mann's Earth Band and
Uriah Heep in 1974 on their first tour!

>I always assumed it was quite obvious that "Brought to you by the
>letter D" had to do with the fact that the CD is DDD - as in digital
>recording, mixing, and mastering. Maybe I was wrong to assume this but
>I think this is a good explaination.

>well, good assumption, but you forget the fact that
>"Brought to you by the letter D", etc, was on the _ALBUMS_ long before
>CDs were around.... I think the Sesame Street explanation is the correct
>one... plus, to my knowledge, Rush CDs prior to Power Windows were in
>AAD; HYF, Power Windows, and Presto are in DDD, while ASOH is in ADD...

Maybe, but HYF was the first Rush production that was designed specifically
for the CD format. Neil comments on this in an interview I heard (maybe
on the Profiled! CD). They planned the album for around 50 minutes and
knew that it would be done as DDD. You will recall that the big switcheroo
to CD's from LP's occurred about 1987, when HYF came out. Anyway, the idea
that "brought to you by the letter D" = DDD sounds good to me. Maybe Neil
will answer this question via the Backstage Club (eh, Hinano !).

BTW, has anyone gotten any current newsletter from the Backstage Club??
I'm a member in good standing and I haven't heard anything from them
since Presto was released.

Cheers,
David
-----
David Conley     "The Digital Anatomist"     dmc@milton.u.washington.edu
University of Washington School of Medicine, Seattle

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 91 16:12:43 PST
From: Mark Lent <lent@stat.washington.edu>
Subject: Anticipating new Rush albums

	I don't work at a record store, but from what I've
seen, Rush albums tend to be bought heavily during the first
day that record stores receive the new shipments.  I know that
I call the local stores over and over checking up on it and it
is usually the case that the things get postponed for different
reasons.  Anyway, I have never felt this severe anxiety to get
an album so fast with any other group.  Many of my friends feel
the need to get the new material on the first day as well.  The
record stores know this, I think, and put a sale price on them
only after a week or two has passed.  How aggravating!
	My purpose in even mentioning this stuff is related to
how much people feel about the albums as they listen to it more.
How many of us thought _Signals_ was a bad album, but after a
while of listening to it, we fell in love with it.  This may be
a result of how much anxiety we have: something along the lines of
"_Moving Pictures_ was so awesome, I can't wait to hear their next
album."  Consistently for me the albums get better the more I listen.
I have come to acknowledge the fact that at first I may not think
it is a very good album compared to the others but that in time
(maybe 10 or 20 listens) it is up there with all the rest.  Yes,
I will buy the next Rush CD the first day it arrives in Seattle,
and so will many others.

Does Billboard keep any stats on first day sales?  I'm sure Rush
has the top spot hands down.

Mark Lent

"This is called 'Anthem'" - The Gedman

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Subject: Frivolity
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 91 11:54:50 CST
From: David Sandberg <dts@quad.sialis.com>

So why isn't our beloved "National Midnight Star" brought to us
by a letter yet?  Maybe one of rush-mgr's real initials?  Or just
'N' (for Net)?

[ We'll see.  Depends on how zany I'm feeling on any given day... :rush-mgr ]

--
 \\         David Sandberg         \  Geddy: "People aren't idiots.   \\
 //      dts@quad.sialis.com       /  Well... some people are idiots, //
 \\  uunet!umn-cs!sialis!quad!dts  \  but _I'm_ not an idiot!"        \\

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 1991 17:12:35 PST
From: "Ray (DJ) DeGennaro II" <degennar@aludra.usc.edu>
Subject: Aimee Mann and Rush and pre-concert meetings.

	Real quick question (actually two) and a statement. During the HFY
tour, when Aimee's line was sung, a picture of her drifted across the video
screen and the image "lip-synched" (I've been waiting to use that term in a
non derogatory fashion.) to the recording. However, on the Presto tour, the
screen went completely blank. I saw the show in LA, did this happen elsewhere?
And if so, any ideas why?
	Meetings before the concerts sounds like a great idea. Somebody in LA
remember this when the boyz come to town. I'm assuming they'll be there during
the school year.

YAORQ: "The suburbs have no charms to sooth the restless dreams of youth."
	- verified by personal experience.

|  Where do the old men go,                     |  "Dog City"              |
|  When their song stops playing on the radio?  |        - Crack the Sky   |
|  How does the young man know,                 \__________________________|
|  When his dream is over and he's lost his soul ... to Dog City?          |

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 91 21:45 EST
From: "Derek D. Lichter [Cinderella Man]" <DEREK%ALBNYVMS.BITNET@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU>
Subject: Concertgoers unite

Well, I think having a net/list concert group is a great idea, and not
unreasonable at all, considering the amount of people now reading this.
As long as we organize it in advance, we can probably do really well getting
tickets for large groups.

At any rate, I'd be happy to organize a Northeast/lower New England group,
I guess composed of New York, upper Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut,
Vermont, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania people -- basically all who are
within a two-hour driving limit.  We could get the list together, and once
we find out the tour dates, work out multiple concert trips that suit our
schedules.  This is way ahead of us, of course, but when the time is right
it could work out really well.  E-mail is faster and more reliable than
most other methods of communication...

[ Count me in; I've got friends in Philly.  We might consider driving a
  ways if it's a Saturday show.                                :rush-mgr ]

(Oh, yeah... since my girlfriend lives in Maryland, I'd be interested in
 the "Capital Region sphere" as well.  :-)  D.C., Baltimore, even Philly
 -- any excuse to visit my gf!)

                        I guess that'll do, except for the obligatory RQ:

"genetic blends/with uncertain ends/on a fortune hunt that's far too fleet"

                                                Derek L.

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 91 22:43 EST
Subject: By Pass and the Road Hog
From: "Charles <S3SIJDP@SAE.TOWSON.EDU>" <S3SIJDP@SAE.TOWSON.EDU>

   Yes, the Rush Mgr got it right. I was merely trying to make a joke.
I apologize if my humor was a bit too subtle. (Sorry Ron.) I also hope
that I didn't create a false sense of euphoria in 650 people's hearts
with the possibility of unreleased songs. But anyway, carry on, carry on.

ORQ- "He and she are in the house but there's only me at home."
Well.         Actually, he is home too.

  -Charles Grogan

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From: rlr@bbt.com (rader)
Subject: Rush on MFSL Gold CDs (oooooohhhhhh!)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 91 10:38:28 EST

  With all due respect to the Patster, do we really care whether or not MFSL
releases a gold Rush CD?  This gold CD is an audiophile marketing gimmick,
and nothing more.  If you really want to pay $25 for a Rush CD, go right
ahead, but don't expect much more.  Unless you also dab green ink or Armor
All on your CDs!

  Unless, of course, MFSL remastered one of the analog early albums.  Then
it might be worth it.  Personally, I think Mercury or Polygram or whoever
should remaster the old disks to modern digital standards.  That's the only
real advantage to the MFSL disks.

--
ron rader, jr   rlr@bbt.com OR ...!mcnc!bbt!rlr = Opinions are my own and do
| |  i gotta six-pack & nothing to do...        = not necessarily reflect those
 | | i gotta six-pack & i don't need you        = of BroadBand Tech. (SO THERE!)
  *** Punk ain't no religious cult, punk means thinking for yourself - DKs ***

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Subject: Album Poll Results!
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 91 8:03:08 PST
From: Doug Grumann <dougg@hpptc16.rose.hp.com>

Thanks to all you Rush fans who sent me your 10 favorite albums for my poll.
Response was terrific.. I received about 90 replies!

Many of you have quite eclectic tastes in music.  I was surprised at the
sheer number of different albums nominated.. 460 in all!  That averages out
to be over 5 unique albums per person!  Yow!  Rather than listing every
single album nominated, I'll email the results file to anybody who asks for
it.  Send requests to dougg@hpptc16.hp.com.

To score the nominations, I chose a point scheme.  When an album was somebody's
first place choice, I gave it 20 points.  19 points went to people's second
place choice, 18 for third, and so on, down to 11 points for 10th place votes.
Nominations that were "in no particular order" all got 16 points each.  This
way, two people voting an album for 10th place scored roughly equal to one
person voting an album their 1st place choice.  It makes sense to me, anyways.

Now for the album list.  The "points" column is the total score for that
album.  The "#votes" column is the number of people who voted for that album.
The "times #1" column is the number of people who voted that album as their
#1 choice.

Rank  Group: Album                              points  #votes  times #1
---- --------------------------------           ------  ------  --------
1    Rush: Moving Pictures                      527     28      13
2    Pink Floyd: The Wall                       345     20      3
3    Led Zeppelin: IV                           267     16      0
4    Pink Floyd: Dark Side Of The Moon          220     13      5
5    Boston: Boston                             214     14      0
6    Queensryche:  Operation: Mindcrime         202     12      3
7    Marillion: Misplaced Childhood             187     11      3
8    The Beatles: Abbey Road                    162     9       2
9    Rush: 2112                                 159     9       3
10   Yes: 90125                                 153     10      1
11   Rush: Hemispheres                          130     7       3
12   Van Halen: Van Halen I                     127     8       0
13   Beatles: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hts Clb Band 126     8       1
14   Pink Floyd: Wish You Were Here             117     7       0
15   Led Zeppelin: Physical Graffiti            116     7       1
16   Genesis: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway    103     6       2
17   Led Zeppelin: II                           103     6       1
18   U2: War                                    95      6       2
19   Rush: Power Windows                        93      5       3
20   Rush: Permanent Waves                      90      5       1
21   Metallica: Master of Puppets               89      5       1
22   The Who: Who's Next                        88      6       0
23   Rush: Signals                              87      5       1
24   King Crimson: Discipline                   85      5       2
25   Kansas: Point of Know Return               83      5       0
26   Triumph: Allied Forces                     81      6       0
27   Jimi Hendrix: Are You Experienced?         79      5       0
27   Yes: Close to the Edge                     79      5       0
29   Joe Satriani: Surfing with the Alien       78      5       0
29   Led Zeppelin: Houses of the Holy           78      5       0
31   Yes: Fragile                               77      5       0
32   Peter Gabriel: III (face melting)          76      5       0
33   Rush: A Farewell to Kings                  75      4       2
34   Metallica: And Justice For All             72      5       0
35   Peter Gabriel: So                          69      5       0
36   Metallica: Ride the Lightning              69      4       0
37   The Eagles: Hotel California               66      4       0
38   Yes: Tales from Topographic Oceans         64      4       0
39   Rush: Hold Your Fire                       61      4       0
40   U2: The Unforgettable Fire                 58      4       1
41   Fleetwood Mac: Rumours                     57      4       0
41   Led Zeppelin: I                            57      4       0
43   The Police: Synchronicity                  56      4       0
44   Rush: Exit.. Stage Left                    56      3       2
45   Asia: Asia                                 54      4       0
46   Def Leppard: Hysteria                      53      4       0
47   Pink Floyd: Animals                        50      3       1
48   Kansas: Leftoverture                       50      3       0
48   King Crimson: In the Court of the Crm King 50      3       0
48   Pink Floyd: The Final Cut                  50      3       0
51   AC/DC: Back in Black                       49      4       0
52   Aerosmith: Permanent Vacation              49      3       0
52   Black Sabbath: Paranoid                    49      3       0
54   Steely Dan: Aja                            48      4       0
55   Talking Heads: Remain in Light             48      3       0
56   Jethro Tull: Heavy Horses                  47      3       0
56   Queen: A Night at the Opera                47      3       0
56   Yes: The Yes Album                         47      3       0
59   ELP: Brain Salad Surgery                   46      3       0
59   Paul Simon: Graceland                      46      3       0
61   Cream: Wheels of Fire                      45      3       0
62   Peter Gabriel: Security (IV)               44      3       0
62   Yngwie Malmsteen: Rising Force             44      3       0
64   Black Sabbath: Black Sabbath               43      3       0
64   Supertramp: Crime of the Century           43      3       0
64   Tom Petty: Full Moon Fever                 43      3       0
67   Journey: Greatest Hits                     42      3       0
67   Moody Blues: Days of Future Passed         42      3       0
67   Pink Floyd: The Delicate Sound of Thunder  42      3       0
67   Styx: Paradise Theater                     42      3       0
71   Saga: Worlds Apart                         41      3       0
72   Rush: Presto                               40      2       2
73   Marillion: Clutching at Straws             39      2       1
73   Stevie Ray Vaughan: Texas Flood            39      2       1
75   Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, & Howe: ABWH   37      2       0
75   The Who: Quadrophenia                      37      2       0
77   Genesis: Trick of the Tail                 36      2       1
78   Aerosmith: Rocks                           36      2       0
79   Derek&theDominos: Layla&Othr Asst Lv Songs 35      2       1
80   Deep Purple: In Rock                       35      2       0
80   Genesis: Seconds Out                       35      2       0
80   King Crimson: Beat                         35      2       0
80   Pink Floyd: Meddle                         35      2       0
80   Roger Waters: The Pros & Cons of Hitchhkng 35      2       0
80   Sting: Nothing Like the Sun                35      2       0
86   Blue Oyster Cult: Secret Treaties          34      2       1
86   King Crimson: Starless and Bible Black     34      2       1
88   10,000 Maniacs: In My Tribe                34      2       0
88   Genesis: Abacab                            34      2       0
88   The Police: Ghosts in the Machine          34      2       0
88   Rolling Stones: Sticky Fingers             34      2       0
88   Rush: Grace Under Pressure                 34      2       0
88   Simon & Garfunkel: Concert In Central Park 34      2       0
88   The Who: Tommy                             34      2       0
95   Dream Theatre: When Dream and Day Unite    33      2       1
95   Iron Maiden: Killers                       33      2       1
95   Prince: Sign 'o The Times                  33      2       1
95   Yes: Drama                                 33      2       1
99   Chicago: Greatest Hits Volume I            33      2       0
99   Chick Corea Elektrik Band: Inside Out      33      2       0
99   Dire Straits: Love Over Gold               33      2       0
99   ELP: Emerson Lake & Palmer                 33      2       0
99   Genesis: Foxtrot                           33      2       0
99   Jethro Tull: Minstrel in the Gallery       33      2       0
99   King Crimson: Red                          33      2       0
106  Blue Oyster Cult: Imaginos                 32      2       0
106  Judas Priest: Stained Class                32      2       0
106  Kate Bush: The Whole Story                 32      2       0
109  Steve Vai: Flexable                        31      2       1
110  The Doors: The Doors                       31      2       0
110  Genesis: Selling England By the Pound      31      2       0
110  Kazumi Watanabe: Mobo Club                 31      2       0
110  Stevie Ray Vaughan: Couldn't Stand Weather 31      2       0

Since some groups had several albums which received votes, this final list
ranks the groups themselves according to the total scores of all albums
nominated.  The "#albums" column shows how many albums by that group were
nominated, and the "#votes" column shows how many votes total were received
for all albums by that group.

Rank  Group                     points  #albums #votes
---- ----------------           ------  ------- ------
1    Rush (who else?)           1394    13      77
2    Pink Floyd                 879     8       52
3    Led Zeppelin               670     7       41
4    Yes                        470     7       30
5    Genesis                    368     11      22
6    The Beatles                324     4       19
7    Marillion                  279     6       17
8    King Crimson               251     6       15
9    Metallica                  230     3       14
10   Queensryche                221     2       13
11   Peter Gabriel              214     5       15
12   Boston                     214     1       14
13   Jethro Tull                210     9       14
14   Kansas                     190     5       12
15   Van Halen                  181     5       12
16   The Who                    175     4       11
17   U2                         167     3       11
18   Aerosmith                  158     6       10
19   The Police                 146     4       10
20   Black Sabbath              139     5       9
21   Styx                       111     5       8
22   Dire Straits               109     6       7
23   Triumph                    108     3       8
24   The Eagles                 98      3       6
25   Judas Priest               95      5       6
26   Blue Oyster Cult           95      4       6
27   Queen                      95      4       6
28   Iron Maiden                93      4       6
29   Talking Heads              92      3       6
30   Joe Satriani               92      2       6
31   Def Leppard                90      3       7

...and anybody who wants to know more can request the full tabulation from
me at dougg@hpptc16.hp.com

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