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          The National Midnight Star, Number 183

                   Monday, 4 March 1991
Today's Topics:
                      Administrivia
                       Thoughts...
                       sounds alike
                         Re: 2112
                       "Bootlegs!!"
                 Red Sector A / Red Dawn
          A theory, Mars, a Fountain, and Christ
                    Several things...
                    New Album Rumors.
             random ravings about issue #181
                     RE: Red Sector A
                       Correction^2
                             
                        Oh yeah...
                       RELATED INFO
                          (none)
                 Rush in Jax, ESL cover..
Re: 02/28/91 - The National Midnight Star #181, bad RUSH lines
                 Re:  FreeWill (the band)
                         Answers
         Geddy Lee on Alex Lifeson on Metal Shop
                   The Pass (revisited)
                    Passage to Bangkok
                     Not a shrubbery!
             'Anagram' and 'Hotel California'
                  Rush wins another Juno
                          (none)
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From: Editor, The National Midnight Star <rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu>
Subject: Administrivia

This is notice that the mailing schedule for the NMS will change somewhat.
It used to be issued every weekday, sometime between 10 AM and 5 PM EST.
Due to load on Syrinx when the list runs, this schedule will be changed
to later in the day/evening.  This means that many of you may not get the
mailing until the next day.  If you think you've missed an issue, please
wait to see if it comes later before asking if something's wrong.

There will be a new issue of the FAQL posted in the next day or two; Dan
has gotten it to me, and I just have to send it out.

It's been noticed recently that somebody's been trying to gain unauthorized
access to Syrinx.  We've noticed several failed login attempts in the logs;
attempts to accounts like "guest", "games", etc.  For the record, there are
no un-passworded userids on Syrinx, so this will not work.  If/when we do 
find out who the person is, it will be followed up with their system admin-
istrator promptly.  We are currently tracing the attempts back through the
network with the help of some of our local network gurus.  Luckily, lots
of local gateways log information on who passes through, so we should be
able to track this down.  This will not be tolerated.  This isn't fun, it's 
breaking and entering (if successful).  True, you may not spend any time
in jail, but things could get spicy for you WRT your computer usage.  If
you think I may be referring to you, and you were just playing around, then
send mail to the administrative account letting me know, and giving an
explanation.  If you come to us before we (and your sysadmin) come to you,
things will go much easier...  Fair warning.

Well, enough mundane administrivia; on with the digest!

rush-mgr

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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1991 16:03 EST
From: THE UNINVITED GUEST <LOFFT30%SNYBUFVA.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Thoughts...

Here is my input on a few recent topics:

        As far as the sound of geddy Bass goes, I love the sound of Freewill.
I don't know which bass he used there, I would have to guess the Rick.
While I am only an amateur bassist at best, I havwe played a Rick and couldn't
stand it for one reason, I felt like I had a tree trunk strapped across my
chest.  I also noticed that when Geddy had the Rick, his style was very
reminicent of John Entwistle, but when he switched to the Steinberger and Wal,
his playing style also changed and resembles Jeff Berlin.

As far as the ultimate concert lineup goes....

Opening Act:  Kim Mitchell

First Song:     Prelude: Hemispheres
                Grand Designs
                Marathon
                Vital Signs
                Tom Sawyer (with no video introduction)
                Show Don't Tell
                War Paint
                Red Tide
                Xanadu
                YYZ/La Villa Strangiato/2112 (tied together somehow)
                Afterimage
                red lenses
                Subdivisions
                Digital Man
                The Camera Eye
                The Enemy Within/The Weapon/Witch Hunt
Last Song:      Something For Nothing

Encore:         Finding My Way/Working Man/Bastile Day

Final Encore:   Batlescar (performed with Kim Mitchell)

need I say more?
Kubla Khan

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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 15:46 CST
From: B619ZAW@UTARLG.UTA.EDU
Subject: sounds alike

Hey,
	Would anyone happen to know the name of the Led Zeppelin song that
sounds a whole lot like Anthem on FBN? The resemblance is striking.

Musician's quote for the day:
	{ C F# C F# C C C C F# F# C F# C C C ... }  (5/4)

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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 17:26:35 EST
From: vgupta@sulu.trincoll.edu (Vinay Gupta '94)
Subject: Re: 2112

In the NMS #182, Del Gordon talks of 'enlightening' his friend who thought that
the last lines of 2112 were "WE HAVE A ZOOM CONTROL..." Will somebody shed some
of that light here and tell me what they actually are for the benefit of less
fortunate souls like myself ??

[ To avoid numerous follow-ups:

  "Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation
   Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation
   Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation
   We have assumed control
   We have assumed control
   We have assumed control"                           :rush-mgr ]
   

					          Vinay (yup! another newcomer)

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From: soliz@ecn.purdue.edu (Joshua J Soliz)
Subject: "Bootlegs!!"
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 17:31:48 EST

To whoever put in the request about the "bootlegs".
  Remember there is no such thing as "bootlegs", only IMPORTS ;-)

Sincerely,
  J.J.S

[ How 'bout "special releases"?  ;-)                              :rush-mgr ]

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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 18:11:05 EST
From: paisley@cme.nist.gov (Scott Paisley)
Subject: Red Sector A / Red Dawn

Gary Varney wrote:

> One more thing, Can anybody out there explain what was
> happening when Neil wrote "Red Sector A" from _P/G_?  For some
> reason I always relate that song to the movie "Red Dawn".

I would also like for someone to elaborate on RSA.  Wow, I thought I
was the only one who thought about Red Dawn while listening to Red
Sector A.  I think I relate the song to the movie because of the
following lyrics:

       I clutch the wire fence until my fingers bleed
       A wound that will not heal -- a heart that cannot feel --

(BTW, in the lyrics dir on syrinx, the above line misspells heart as
"hear") 

[ Thanks for the notice - it's been corrected.                  :rush-mgr ]

         In the movie there is a point where the boys from the high
school see their families being held behind a wire fence.  I can't
remember the movie that well, but that image comes to mind from the
first line in the lyrics above.  As time marches on, the young boys
become more immune to pain and emotions, which is what the second line
"a heart that cannont feel" talks about.  What a way to deal with
reality.
---
"...I'm not giving in to security under pressure, I'm not missing out
on the promise of adventure, I'm not giving up on implausible dreams...
*Experience to Extremes* "  		-Rush from 'the enemy within'

Scott Paisley        paisley@cme.nist.gov      ..!uunet!cme-durer!paisley

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Subject: A theory, Mars, a Fountain, and Christ
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 91 16:53:48 PST
From: braun@iris.eecs.ucdavis.edu

Javier interprets thusly:

>my personal apreciation of such phases is different:

> 1) First Phase:  Metal (Strong inclinations towards Led Zeppelin)
> 2) Second Phase: Progressive-high tec
> 3) Third Phase:  "Back to basics era"
>                  Rush tends to simplify its music, but still with very
>                  high quality of musical performance. I know that this
>                  appreciation is shaky, but I do feel a difference between
>                  this phase and the rest.
> 4) Fourth Phase: Presto- ?

I'd always thought the third was quite the opposite -- rather then a
move back to basics, it seems to me like they were getting increasingly
*orchestrated*, culminating in HYF.  When I first heard HOF, I thought,
gods! how'll they ever get everything synchronized in concert;
everything seemed constructed as layer upon layer (I seem to remember
an interview in which Ged said that out of all their albums, they were
less concerned about how the songs would work out live on this one --
that whoever produced it suggested they cut loose a little and
experiment with a more layered sound).  I'd call phase 3 "The
Orchestrated Era", and maybe (yet to be seen) Phase 4 the "Back to
Basics"...  (IMHO, IMHHO, IMHHHOO, etc., etc.).

To Terry:

>        On another note, could anyone out there give me some insight on the
>cover of Caress of Steel?  I'm having a bit of difficulty trying to figure
>the pictures on the front and back of the album out.

The front: Friend Necromancer, gazing into his Prism "Eyes"
The back:  The Fountain of Lamneth, upon the Mountain in the East

Mr. Bob Pitas and Red Lenses:

>I have always thought it was written to reflect the paranoia
>accompanying the cold war.  Remember when we used to think that the
>'commies' were everywhere?  For instance:

>"We've got Mars on the horizon"

> - Mars, the god of war, just over the horizon?  Scarey thought in light of
>   things like the Cuban missle crisis.

Actually, the song could be quite prophetic, what with the possibility
of a joint US/Soviet manned mission to Mars in the future...

In light of the 2112 interpretations floating around, I was going to
offer one, in which our (tragic) hero can actually be seen as a Christ
figure, having to die before the better days could come, but in further
light of the recent (Christ!) Pass dialog, I'll forgo it...  ;) ;)

ron braun                   "Still it's all confusion..."  (CoS)
braun@eecs.ucdavis.edu         -- and this Quarter's almost over!

(By the way, did you notice that there are exactly 2112 stars on the
cover of 2112, and that 2112 bunnies surround the hill on Presto (you
can't see them all of course; some're on the other side... Amazing! ;o )

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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 20:49:16 -0600
From: Ed Federmeyer <ed@iitmax.iit.edu>
Subject: Several things...

Several things...  (I hope this isn't too long for the list.  Is there any
rule of thumb on the length of entries, Mr. Manager?  Would it be better to
submit each of these points separatly or is this an okay format?  :-)

[ In general, if it's a "normal" post (what is that??), then go ahead and
  send it here.  If it's an interview or article transcription, or something
  else that's lenghty and you're not the originator, then it should probably
  go to the administrative address.  I'll then make the decision if it gets
  a special edition or not.  When in doubt, send administrative mail!
                                                                  :rush-mgr ]

1)  I'm the guy who originally wondered about the ending to 2112...
    I did mention the "lost brotherhood of man returning"...  I
    meant to say "Elder Race of man".  I was shootin' from the hip,
    and I shot myself in the foot...  Sorry for the confusion.  BUT,
    the discussion was interesting :-)  After going back and re-listening
    to The Grand Finale, the voice at the end can actually sound
    benevolent and maybe even joyous.  I guess you kinda hear what
    you expect to hear.  Hmmmm...

2)  Someone asked "What is Red Sector A about?"  I always thought it
    was about the Earth being taken over by some menace from space...
    "Are we the only human beings to survive?"  Kinda gives you a
    creepy feeling to think that you and your mom are the only humans
    left alive...  What would you do?  Try to re-start the human race,
    or would that pretty much be it for us as a species?  :-)

3)  Someone else mentioned that Neil was writing less complex songs.
    Actually, I have not really noticed his drumming going downhill...
    In fact, I would say that he may be concentrating on the lyric now.
    If you take an album like "A Farewell to Kings", and look a the
    lyrics...  They are pretty much strightforward stories with relativly
    little double-meantings, little gotcha's, etc.  Looking at Presto,
    though, you can read alot more into the lyrics, as evidenced by the
    recent "Christ in The Pass" debates.  Just my observations...

4)  Okay, now that I have my copy of "A Farewell to Kings" out, I have
    some questions for you Rush-experts :-)

    4a)  Why was the guy trapped in "Xanadu"?  Why couldn't he just leave
         the pleasure dome and resume a mortal life?  Was it like
         "Shangri-La" in Lost Horizon, by James Hilton, where once you
         leave, you turn real old and crumble into dust real fast?
    4b)  Where does Cygnus-X1 Book I fit into "Hemispheres?"  On the one
         hand, the "to be continued..." bit makes it seem like it is
         chronologically before book II, like the guy went through the
         black hole, and inside he found this world in torment...  However,
         In Book II, part IV, he talks about 'The Rocinante's final flight
         to this immortal place'...  Like Book I actually takes place
         IN BETWEEN parts IV and V in book II, and in Book I, he is leaving
         the world and entering the world of the gods!??!
    4c)  Who IS this Cygnus PERSON(whatever) who has memory and awareness,
         but no shape or form?  Is it supposed to be the same guy on the
         Rocinante, somehow disembodied in the trip throught the blackhole?
         Is it the black hole ITSELF???
    4d)  Is the 'Rocinante' based in any literature, or was it like
         "By-tor and the Snow Dog", just something they made up?
    4e)  The picture inside my copy of "A Farewell to Kings" looks "funny"
         Its hard to describe...  Kinda grainy and washed out, like when
         the toner on a laser-printer or xerox machine starts to run
         low.  Did they mean to do this, or is my printing just bad?
         (The lyrics are crystal clear though)

Well, I have TONS of little observations/questions, etc (Don't we all? :-)
But I'll save them for another rainy day...  Hay, maybe it would be k00l
to meet together before the next concert (Whoever's going to the Chicago
concert) with all the albums and pick the lyrics apart???..!!!?  :-)

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Date: Fri,  1 Mar 91 22:27:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Barry Lowell Brumitt <bb1v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: New Album Rumors.

Well, I've heard the following rumors from a ***VERY RELIABLE** source:
1) Neil is going to a minimal drum kit: just 7 synth pads and an automated
switching system.., he's just tap with his fingers, no sticks!
2) Alex is going to pay acoustic only from here on out.
3) Geddy has refused to sing lyrics which are not environmentally concious.
4) Religious music will enter into their repetoire frequently.
5) They will have songs with no music, only words and slapping of body parts.
6) On their next tour, the openning group will be Eide Brikell and the New
Bohemians.
7) They will remake several songs by Vanilla Ice & Milli Vanilli.
8) The album will be released in 2 versions, the normal and "dance-remix"
version.
9) They will sacrifice small furry animals to Our Lord Satan on stage.
10) All concerts will be held in churches, temples, mosques, or vetrinarian
  clinics.

.... Really!

[ I assume there's an implied smiley here...                :rush-mgr ]

   Barry Brumitt     | "y=x^2: It's not too non-linear, as things go."
 bb1v@andrew.cmu.edu | "I just can't see holding a bowling ball in an elevator"
      Skydive!       |                 --Dr. Richard Holman, General Relativity

ps. And to be extremely anal: Derek L and Dan D, it's "You guys are so unhip
it's a wonder your BUMS don't fall off!" British for "derriere" is "bum."

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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 13:21:00 EST
From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
Subject: random ravings about issue #181

>From: djabson@UCSD.EDU (The God of Balance)
>Subject: bad RUSH lines
>
>	I know some, perhaps most, of you out there believe that everything
>RUSH has ever written is perfect.  What I am wondering is if there are
>certain lines (or even songs, or albums, whatever) that RUSH has written
>that you absolutely do not like at all.

Well, the only thing that's ever really bothered me is in "Cygnus X-1" (and
no, I'm not picking on your name!)  Being a rather technical person, I'm
annoyed by the use of plane coordinates to refer to 3-D space.	("...just
east of Lyra, northwest of Pegasus...")  But that's just me.  Now, what can
I do about that public service announcement that refers to a black hole as
"the biggest concentration of nothingness in the universe?" (Not relevant
to Rush, of course.)

-----
>PS: Am I the only one without a quote from Rush in his/her .sig?
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>| Oktay Ahiska        \   The opinions expressed above (if any!) are mine. |
>| osa@unhd.unh.edu	\  Not UNH's. What belongs to me, belongs to me!    |

Well, not for long.  I'm about to break a three-year tradition the next
time I change mine.  Which will be as soon as I decide *what* to change it
to, out of a list of about a dozen things.

-----
>From: ALDSTF10%OUACCVMB.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
>Subject: On P/G songs
>
>2) Does anyone out there think that Red Lenses is about Nuclear Warfare (I.e. t
>hermonuclear attack) - I think that if the atmosphere gets saturated w. low wav
>elength radiation - i.e. the Infrared associated with the heat output of a TMbo
>mb you would see red.	Or am I totally misinterpreting this tune? I'd love to h
>ear some interpretations of the song, because it was the first Rush tune I hear
>d and still is one of my faves.

I thought it was about McCarthy-ism and similar paranoia.

>On a slightly different note, here's a tip on how to get relatively new Rush fa
>ns (or slightly younger ones) even more into the group - explain the concept be
>hind Anagram For Mongo (i.e. the wordplay; you did notice the wordplay didn't y
>ou?) to them. It is surprising how many casual fans/listeners miss the connecti
>on between the title and lyrix completely!

Confession time:  The first time I listened to it, I didn't notice!
Arrrgh!  I can't remember what was on my mind at the time, but it obviously
wasn't the music.

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>From: Blue Steel <UCSKRT@ucs.UWPLATT.EDU>
>Subject: Comprehensive list of acronyms

Ha ha!	Thanks for posting that.  It really made my week.  (Gotta have
something to get me through the involuntary "Peaks" deprivation...)

>IGAGBAYCDTI:  It's Got A Good Beat And You Can Dance To It

Hey, not on *this* list!  <grin>

>NKOTB:  No Kissing Or Tongue Badminton

Oh, so *that's* what that stands for!  Explains everything...

>TOS:	 Totally Orgasmic Shit

Don't let the Atari people read that or we Amiga people will never hear the
end of it!  (NFP!)

-----
>From: bigal@wpi.WPI.EDU (Nathan Charles Crowell)
>Subject: The funniest thing I've EVER heard!
>
>vided her with a book called "Satanism Is Near You," and in this book, they
>have a quote (no less) from Alex himself!  The quote says "I am Alex Lifeson,
>and I am a Satanist."

Did you see "The Hype" on MTV earlier this year?  "We asked REAL DEVIL
WORSHIPPERS what kind of music they listened to..."  As it turns out, most
of them listened to CLASSICAL music!

-----
>From: stedmant@LONEX.RADC.AF.MIL (Terrance A. Stedman)
>Subject: Neil slowing down??, Caress of Steel album cover
>
>	 On another note, could anyone out there give me some insight on the
>cover of Caress of Steel?  I'm having a bit of difficulty trying to figure
>the pictures on the front and back of the album out.

Well, I haven't seen it for a while (I own "Archives" myself), but if I
remember rightly the front cover is the necromancer gazing into a crystal.
If I'm totally off-base here, someone let me know.

-----
>From: DG8150%ALBNYVMS.BITNET@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU
>Subject: Fear
>
>	 The Weapon- Using Fear to destroy your enemy.	The enemy is so
>	 powerful that if you but once loss concentration or vigor in fighting
>	 him, he will destroy you.  IE. Our treatment of the Japanesse during
>	 the WWII, Nazi Sacpgoatism of the Jews and the Gypsies.  Ronald
>	 Regan and the Evil Empire.  The list could go on and on.
>	 Propoganda could some it up.

That's a good interpretation.  The one I first thought of was a person, or
organization, or government, that had a big secret which would totally
destroy them if exposed.  Admittedly, I based that on only one line of the
song!

>	 The Enemy Within-This one is hard, I haven't read the lyrics in
>	 a while.(I do Remember the killer bass line though)  Maybe it is about

I think that it's about not being afraid of taking chances, and not
letting fear of failure or of venturing into the unknown keep you from
living your life to the fullest.  "I'm not giving in to security under
pressure, I'm not missing out on the promise of adventure, I'm not giving
up on implausible dreams, Experience to extremes!"

--
*  From the disk of:  | jms@vanth.uucp		     | "Glittering prizes and
Jim Shaffer, Jr.      | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | endless compromises
37 Brook Street       | 72750.2335@compuserve.com    | shatter the illusion of
Montgomery, PA 17752  | (CompuServe as a last resort)| integrity!"  (Rush)

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 91 02:48:50 -0500
From: atd@po.CWRU.Edu (Aron T. Drake)
Subject: RE: Red Sector A

Good day eh,

     Well this will be my SECOND post (actually that's pretty amazing...) anyway
here goes.

     I'm writing in response to Gary Varney's interpretation of Red Sector A.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not say that Gary is wrong, I just thought that I'd
add my 2 cents about the song.(By the way...I like your interpretation Gary)
I got _P/G_ when I was a sophomore in high school, and really started to get into
the album. I was also reading the book "Night" by Elie Wassel (not sure of the
spelling on that one). For those of you not familiar, the book is a true story
of a young man in a Nazi concentration camp. For some reason, I always pictured
the song being about a concentration camp. Of course I was probably greatly
influnced by "Night", but every time I hear the line "Sickness to Insanity,
Prayer to profanity", I can only think of Elie Wassel's struggle to understand
his religion and the attrocities of what was happening to him and around him.
     Well, this is all IMHO so if anyone else wants to talk about this some
more I'd be happy to see it!!!

                            "They horked our clothes"
                               -Aron

P.S. You can twist perceptions, reality won't budge.
                        -N. Peart
P.S.S. "Night" is a good book, depressing, but good.....

--
I think, therefore I am.....Confused!

"Well if we took the bones out,
  it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?"--Monty Python

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Subject: Correction^2
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 91 1:55:41 PST
From: Dan Dickerman GSY 1-447-4425 <dickermn@hpcugsya.cup.hp.com>

> Oh, and Dan D.-- that's "You guys are so unhip it's a wonder your _buns_
> don't fall off!"  (from one of the hitchhiker's guide books).  Just being
> an anal retentive for a minute, forgive me... :-)

Actually we're both wrong: "Shee, you guys are so unhip it's a wonder
bums don't fall off" (Think British)  I think I can concede that you
are closer, though.  Forgive me, I didn't have "The Restaurant at the
End of the Universe" at work that day.

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Subject:
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 18:09:11 CST
From: David Sandberg <dts@quad.sialis.com>

On the subject of Geddy's basses: like so many others here, I too
miss his black 4001 Rickenbacker.  In fact, no less than three of
my musical friends in high school bought 4001s after AFTK (two
black ones like Geddy's, and one *strange* red one).  Of course,
to really have a 4001 like Geddy's, you have to do some work on
the thing, like replacing the bridge with a Badass for starters.
It also helps if you're willing to use Rotosound strings - they
kill the neck of a Rick, but they do sound nice.

As far as Geddy's voice goes, I don't think I'd call him one of
the great rock vocalists (and I bet Geddy himself wouldn't claim
to be a _great_ singer, either).  He is quite effective in the
context of Rush's music, though, IMO.  His range isn't quite what
it used to be, and maybe that isn't all bad: I think he sounds
much better now that he isn't always pushing his pitch envelope.

Patrick Ryan writes:
> Someone told me that in the world of classical guitar, there are,
> at any one time, a fixed number of 'Masters' (when one dies, a
> new one is appointed) and that Alex is one of them.  Knowing that
> Alex isn't classically trained (though you'd never know it), I'm
> skeptical.

I'm not a "true" classical guitarist either (just a humble rock
and roll kid following in Alex's big footsteps), so my knowledge
may be less than complete.  But at the least I've never heard of
any enumerated and limited group of 'Masters', and I would be
highly skeptical of such an arbitrary grouping even if it did
exist.  My guess is that someone was pulling your leg.

rush-mgr writes:
> If we ever have a son, it's a good chance his name will be
> "Alexander Neil"!

You'd better be careful - people may expect him to start jumping
around and singing "Fake".   B-)

[ Ok, I'll show my ignorance here.  "Fake"?  Is there some musical artist
  named Alexander Neil?  Email replies to only rush-request@syrinx, please.
                                                                  :rush-mgr ]

--
    /~~~~~~~~~~~  David Sandberg  ~~~~~~~~~~~  ,=,       ,=,  ~~~~~~~~\
   /~~~~~~~~~  dts@quad.sialis.com  ~~~~~~~~~  | |uadric `=,ystems  ~~~\
  /~~~~  "and the rock must stand alone"  ~~~  `=\       `='  ~~~~~~~~~~\

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Subject: Oh yeah...
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 23:19:35 CST
From: David Sandberg <dts@quad.sialis.com>

I forgot to mention this in my other note...

On the subject of "bad" opening acts, the Rainmakers also opened
for Rush on the Minneapolis leg of the HYF tour.  They do kind of
a straightforward, feel-good rock and blues show.  It should be
said that the Rainmakers are actually a quite good band in the
proper environment (they headlined one of the big bar venues here
in town shortly before that and went over like gangbusters, from
what I heard), but I agree that they were entirely the wrong
sort of band to have opening up for a much more serious and
thoughtful group like Rush.

--
    /~~~~~~~~~~~  David Sandberg  ~~~~~~~~~~~  ,=,       ,=,  ~~~~~~~~\
   /~~~~~~~~~  dts@quad.sialis.com  ~~~~~~~~~  | |uadric `=,ystems  ~~~\
  /~~~~  "and the rock must stand alone"  ~~~  `=\       `='  ~~~~~~~~~~\

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 91 15:10 EST
From: V120P993@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu
Subject: RELATED INFO

in case anyone is interested, mr. Peart will be performing at the second
annual Buddy Rich memorial concert at the ritz in NYC IN MID APRIL. i
 believe it will be a taped event (which will eventually be availiable
on video, for those of us who cannot attend). should be quite an event.

                                     -KEVIN HULME

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 91 15:40:08 PST
From: Eric Rescorla <rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu>

I forget the address to post my playlist to, so I'll just
post it here.

My version of a Potential Rush playlist....
Opener: No opening band. I'd rather have an extra 30 minutes of
RUSH.
Open with 2112 Overture/Temples of Syrinx.(~7 minutes)
Playlist:
First Set:
Xanadu(12 minutes)
By-Tor and the Snow Dog(8 minutes)(?)
Something for Nothing(5 minutes)
Cygnus X-1 Book I(10 minutes)
Fly By Night(5 minutes)
Natural Science(10 minutes)
Working Man(5 minutes)

Second Set:
Bastille Day(5 minutes)
The Trees(5 minutes)
YYZ(10 minutes or so with Solo)
Force 10(5 minutes)(?)
Show Don't Tell(5 minutes)
The Pass(5 minutes)
La Villa Strangiatto(10-15 minutes)

Encores:
Tom Sawyer(5 minutes)
Red Barchetta(6 minutes)
Closer to the Heart(3 minutes)

So, whaddya think?
-Eric
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Eric Rescorla                                      rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu
Yale University Department of Chemistry             rescorla@psun.chem.yale.edu

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1991 18:58 EST
From: "John C. Walp Jr." <WALP63%SNYBUFVA.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Rush in Jax, ESL cover..

hey fellow Rush fans...

I posted these two topics earlier but I was experiencing problems with
my mail and didn't see the reply. I saw Rush in Jacksonville, Fla. for
the Presto tour... another great show.. I've been a Rush fan since my
junior high days and started listening to them during the Permanent Waves
era.. Oh, by the way Mr. Big was the opening act in Jax.. Here's my
question.. on the cover of Exit Stage Left.. I was told by a friend that
the audience is none other than fans at Buffalo Memorial Auditorium during
the MP tour... anyone know if this is legit?? Next, my friends went to
a Blue Jays game at the Skydome in Toronto last year and said they
picked out Geddy and his son Julian out of the crowd and put their
pictures up on JumboTron.. the huge TV screen in SkyDome.. this one I
believe but let's here some feedback on the ESL question...

John Walp..   @snybufva::walp63

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 91 20:51:58 CST
From: Ivelisse Atiles <rio@buhub.bradley.edu>
Subject: Re: 02/28/91 - The National Midnight Star #181, bad RUSH lines

This is the first time I'm posting to this, so bear with me, okay?
I'm a fairly new Rush fan, and so far the most obnoxious thing I've
ever heard from Rush is their song from the self-titled album,
"Need Some Love"....  I find the refrain so incredibly cheesy and
corny that it makes me wince every time I hear it!  8)
I don't know...  I like Rush because they don't write corny, trite
love songs-- they write songs that *mean* something.  But hey,
I still like them anyway 8)
(sorry about the smileys... they just... come...)

*  Liz!   @>---->-----                --+*+--  rio@buhub.bradley.edu          *
*  "Le coeur a ses raisons que la     --+*+--  iatiles@heartland.bradley.edu  *
*  raison ne connait point." -Pascal  --+*+--  an234@cleveland.freenet.edu    *

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 08:30:21 PST
From: jdinkins@eagle.calpoly.edu (nobody)
Subject: Re:  FreeWill (the band)

for clarity below:
FreeWill = the band you have all been refering to (east coast? canada?)
Freewill = SF bay area local band...

  My brother is the lead guitarist in a different Freewill (band) in the
San Francisco bay area. They have been playing for about 4 years now,
and are becoming popular. They have a tape out (that you can pick up at
tower records in San Jose (Bascom Ave.) - or could as of a year ago -
but I wouldn't bother, its not that good. Their newer stuff is much much
better), and are putting together a cd - don't know much about the
details. They have opened for Y&T a couple of times, and regularly play
bay area clubs. Their brand of music is more or less Steve Vai meets
Night Ranger (ok, so it lands more on the Night Ranger side).

  They won KSJO's best bay area band contest 2 (maybe 3) years ago, and
won some headbanger bay area cheapo-magazine's best South Bay band
award this year. Anyways, they claim that both of them (the two
freewill) bands know of each other. Steve (my brother) has a tape of
FreeWill (which I have not heard), and he doesn't think much of them
(again, its his opinion, not mine).

  For those that care about these things, Mike Varney of Shrapnel Records
(and Guitar Player fame) was supposedly interested in them, but wanted more
speed lick instrumentals, which they refused to do. Then (again
supposedly, I take what musicians say with a grain of salt or two) the
producer for Whitesnake was interested, but opted out to go produce
some other band. Soo.. such is life for starving musicians.

 jeff

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Date:     Sun, 03 Mar 91 13:38:28 PST
From: L5UFABD%CALSTATE.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU  (********** CHRIS ASHTON **********)
Subject:  Answers

A while ago, someone asked about the Backstage Club.  I haven't
gotten anything from them since Power Windows either.

[ If you don't order anything from them for a year, you get dropped from
  the mailing list.  I know they sent out a HYF and Presto edition; I
  received them.                                              :rush-mgr ]

Someone else asked about Voivod.  I have 4 cds from them and think
they rock.  Nothinface is my favourite.

More recently, someone asked about Rush imports.  My cousin got
one, a record that was red vinyl, that had all of the songs with
Red in them on it.  I have one that's called Through Time and it's
got songs from different albums up to Permanent Waves.

[ Killer "Best Of" album, IMHO.                                :rush-mgr ]

[A[B-Chris

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 18:22:10 EST
From: smoolky@eng.clemson.edu (Sudhir P. Moolky)
Subject: Geddy Lee on Alex Lifeson on Metal Shop

Serious Headbangers, if you've missed this week's edition of Metal Shop, it's
a shame. A lot of the "guitar gods" were either interviewed or their songs were
played. Some of the "gods" interviewed were Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Ted Nugent,
Jimmy Page, Angus Young, K.K. Downing and Glen Tipton, Geddy Lee(about Alex),
Joe Satriani(on Eddie Van Halen), Jon Lord(on Ritchie Blackmore), ex jimi's
bassist(on Jimi Hendrix), Montrose..............

I am reproducing the brief comment that Geddy Lee made.

Charlie "the butcher" Kendall : When you look at the reader's polls in most
metal magazines, rarely do they reflect the finest musicians but rather the most
popular. Rush's guitarist Alex Lifeson is one such person ( doesn't your heart glow at this comment!!!!!!) often overlooked by these polls. But regardless of
public opinion front man Geddy Lee recognizes the importance of having a
guitarist like Alex Lifeson in Rush.

Geddy Lee  :  Alex is such an integral part of the band. He's developed a style
that I think lot of people take for granted and forget that there's only
basically three instruments on stage most of the time. You know and such a big
part of that sound is him and I think his style as a rythm guitarist has been
underrated because he has the ability to play almost two parts at the same time
to keep the momentum and the rythm of the track going. I also think that his solo style is totally insane and (laughs) I don't think there are many guitar
players that sound like he sounds. I mean solo wise and play the kinds of notes that he squeezes out of his instrument. Very demented soloist and I think that's
a wonderful ability to have.

(then C the B K played "presentation" from 2112)

Metal Shop is a two hour radio network program c/o MJI Broadcasting, New York.
It is aired every week on Saturday from 12 midnight to 2 a.m.

Sudhir Moolky
smoolky@eng.clemson.edu

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Subject: The Pass (revisited)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 16:58:38 MST
From: Brent Taylor <ingr!cal_pn!bjtayl@uunet.UU.NET>

Well, I'm not going to say much about the whole thing about what "Christ,
what have you done" means except to say that I lean towards the ambiguity
camp.  What's more interesting is what I found in today's (Sunday, March
3, 1991) Calgary Herald entertainment section.  The "Selected Cuts" column
features five selected tracks that one of the Herald's music writers has
been getting into for the last month.  To quote:

"The Pass: Rush (from Presto, 1989).  Canada's - and the world's - best
progressive innovators are aging like fine wine.  Dramatic melody and
articulate, humanistic lyrics."

This week's writer was Frank King who, suprisingly, tends to review all
the Christian record releases, and writes on religion extensively elsewhere
in the paper.  I'm not sure, since I've never talked to him, but I infer from
some of his topics elsewhere in the paper that he leans toward evangelical
Christianity.  At least someone of that religious persuasion can see
through all the smoke of others who insist that Rush is satanic, and for that
matter, doesn't see "humanism" as another instrument of Satan leading us all
down the garden path.  Also nice to see someone in the mainstream media not
automatically run down Rush with the usual cliches.

Then again, he says in the same article that mentions Rush, that the group
Prism was "an underrated Canuck band" (one of my top ten least favourite
Canadian groups).  Maybe King ain't so bright after all!

All you Prism fans out there, send flames to address below.  I've got
my heavy duty asbestos underwear (commercial bland pop version) back from
the cleaners...

Brent J. Taylor           |  ph 403 291-7509 | "When the going gets weird,
..uunet!ingr!cal_pn!bjtayl| fax 403 250-6105 |  the weird turn pro."
Intergraph Calgary, Canada|    Go Flames!    |        -Hunter S. Thompson

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 16:22:56 PST
From: 6600mld%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu (Old Tom Bombadil)
Subject: Passage to Bangkok

>From: crenshaw.osbu_north@xerox.com
>Subject: Re: bad Rush
>
>Yes!  A Passage To Bangkok
>
>I don't agree with the sentiment behind it and it really bugs me that
>a band as talented and hardworking as Rush is would stoop to writing a
>song about drugs like so many other less talented groups do.

Is this purported "stooping" due to the fact that other "less talented"
bands write about drugs, or is it a comment on mind altering substances?
I *LOVE* _Passage_to_Bangkok_, thank you very much, and the fact that
its subject matter concerns drugs (gasp!) makes for a better song.

If you don't like it, that's fine.  But don't put people (The Band) down
because they don't match up to your standards.  They most likely march to
the beat of their own drum.

Just say Know!

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Matthew Deter    |  6600mld@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu  |  Taxes are not levied for
UC Santa Barbara |  6600mld@ucsbuxa.bitnet    |  the benefit of the taxed.

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 23:04:20 EST
From: El_Cid@ub.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Not a shrubbery!

I know it's not Rush-related, but our own Rush-mgr came up with the
Monty Python bit in a previous issue, and I thought I'd clarify.
"Pie Iesu Domine, dona eis requiem" is what they're saying when
they wack themselves on the head.  In English, that's "Dear Lord
Jesus, give them rest."

Now, the Rush stuff.  Is it permissible to upload the Rush FAQ
list to GEnie?  There are a LOT of folks there who don't have
net access who would probably LOVE to see it.

[ I've replied via e-mail on this.  For general interest/use, please
  drop me a line if you wish to re-distribute anything associated with
  the Rush mailing list.  If I give permission, please keep intact any
  reference to the list, including the administrative address, if present.
                                                                :rush-mgr ]

Steve Quarrella ---- "Questo me an buolto mios enemigos malos"
                          Ruy Diaz de Vivar, El Cid

Net:  el_cid@umichub
GEnie:  EL.CID

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 23:10:01 EST
From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
Subject: 'Anagram' and 'Hotel California'

I posted this earlier, in January, and didn't get any response.  Now that
we're all hypothetically back from winter break, I thought it deserved
another chance.

What do you think of this:

"In the master's chambers, they gather for the feast.  They stab it with
their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast!"

			--The Eagles, "Hotel California"

"There is no safe seat at the feast;  Take your best stab at the beast."

			--Rush, "Anagram"

*  From the disk of:  | jms@vanth.uucp		     | "Glittering prizes and
Jim Shaffer, Jr.      | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | endless compromises
37 Brook Street       | 72750.2335@compuserve.com    | shatter the illusion of
Montgomery, PA 17752  | (CompuServe as a last resort)| integrity!"  (Rush)

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From: pae@cs.UAlberta.CA (Patricia Evans)
Subject: Rush wins another Juno
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 22:36:25 MST

The title says it, the boyz get another interesting pyramid (Juno
Award) from their peers (and here I thought they were peerless) in the
Canadian musuc industry. The award was for Presto as best heavy metal
album.

  Alas, they were not in Vancouver to collect it in person, so Gowan,
who was one of the presenters, accepted it on their behalf. He praised
Neil, Alex, and Geddy highly, and finished with his best Geddy Lee
impression : "of salesmen!" (It was a fairly good imitation.)

"I'm not one to believe in magic, but........"

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Patricia Evans      |  pae@cs.ualberta.ca

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From: UNCLE <csd1em@hatfield.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 12:13:19 +0100

Has anybody else noticed that neil's guitar of the video of
SHOW OF HANDS recorded at the NEC Birmigham changes color during
In The Mood/2112 ? It appears to go from white to blue, and I dont
think that its lighting ? alright I suppose it MUST be, but its
really WIERD !.

[ Check out the FAQL; it's in there.                      :rush-mgr ]

	RUSH RULE O.K. !!!!

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