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         The National Midnight Star, Number 1994

                   Monday, 23 Mar 1998

Today's Topics:
               MTV introduced me to Rush ?!
                Bill Bungle & live records
                    "Lyric Sightings?"
                        Re: Presto
                         Re: Age
                Re: Where is Middle Town?
                      Fav Musicians
                Ongoing Drummer Debate...
                      Tom Sawyer rap
                  Peart and Shakespeare
         Capture my thoughts and carry them.....
               Re: other favorite drummers
                  questions and answers
                  Re: Rate The Musicians
                   Average age of NMSer
                My 2 cents on the pub....
                      Top 5 drummers
                      Samuel Daigle
              Virgins for the Secret Society
              Crashing the stage continued.
             Rush: the magic of the internet
                     Julien SHUT UP!!
What might be included from H. Odeon Show (2nd live disk)
                       new bootleg
                       Drum Debate
                RES: Unreleased Rush songs
                   RE: The Rush SecSoc
                  C-Money = sexist slob
     Re: 03/20/98 - The National Midnight Star #1992
                   Re: Rush, of course
          Fave drummers/top 10 (non-Rush) albums
     Re: 03/20/98 - The National Midnight Star #1992
                  disconnected comments
                   Re: Fav. Drummers...
            Julien, Julien, Julien . . . Alex?
                 Rush songs for a wedding
                      Body Electric
                    Exit Stage Left...

From: (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Mon Mar 23 14:50:03 PST 1998
Subject: Administrivia

Although the Rush news has been sparse lately, here's a few tibits courtesy
of $ean & Emmet Swimming:

  - Alex is working on a follow-up to Victor
  - Geddy is looking for some projects of his own in the next few months
  - The fate of the band is still up in the air. The live album will be
    released, but nothing is certain after that. (and please don't start up
    rumors about how Rush is/will be breaking up because THAT IS NOT WHAT I

 - rush-mgr


From: Art Brown 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:16:12 -0500
Subject: MTV introduced me to Rush ?!

I have to admit, seeing Rush on MTV was the reason I went out and bought
Hold Your Fire. One cold winter morning in early 1988, I was at home sick
(or playing sick to avoid going to school) when I saw the video for Lock and
Key on MTV. I was so impressed by Rush's sound, I went out that night (after
a miraculous recovery) and I bought the Hold Your Fire cassette. 

Go figure. eMpTyV was responsible for my introduction to Rush.

Art Brown

in my simple 3 cd changer:
1. Rush - Hemispheres
2. Cowboy Junkies - Lay It Down
3. Squirrel Nut Zippers - Hot!


From: Timmyweb 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:09:29 EST
Subject: Bill Bungle & live records

>From TNMS #1992, Randy Campbell lists his favorite drummers.This is his #4:
<"Bill Bradford [SIC] Ohhh... YES!   Can't say enough.">
Can't say enough, and can't say it right. It's Bill Bruford.
By the way, I dig your list of drummers.
bye for now,


From: Super George Reimers 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:37:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Covers...

First off, with Metallica doing "Driven", it wouldn't be "Mother
F******g driven to the edge of a deep, dark hole, Motherf****r!" It
would be "Driven to the edge of a motherf*****g hole.....YEAH!" :)
On to the covers:
 Ani Difranco doing "Cold Fire" ("A man talking to a woman and she's
smarter than him." -Neil Peart)
 Were Freddie Mercury alive, Queen doing "Xanadu".
 NiN doing "Witch Hunt".
 Offspring doing "Dog Years" (Geddy DID say ",It's a bit punky.")
 Victor doing "Limbo". (Please tell me you saw that coming.)
 Pink Floyd doing "Limbo".
 Primus doing "La Villa Strangiato". (hehehehehehehehehe...)
 Metallica doing 2112.
 Dave Matthews doing Roll the Bones, with John Cleese on the "rap."
 Dream Theater doing "Time and Motion."
 Soundgarden doing "Stick it Out."
 Dreamline with Eric Johnson on guitar, Ani Difranco on Vocals, Mike
Portney on drums, Jason Newsted on bass, and a symphony instead of
 KI$$ doing Different Strings (DON'T FLAME ME IT'S JUST A JOKE)
One more thing-
If you go see "Titanic", pay attention to the music at the part where
Kate Winslet (babe) is looking at the Statue of Liberty. It sounds a
little like Test for Echo.


"If there's order in all of this disorder, is it like a tape recorder?"
        - U2, "Wake Up Dead Man"

I don't know that's wrong with my television set.  I was 
getting C-Span and the Home Shopping Network on the 
same station.  I actually bought a congressman.  - Bruce Baum


From: "Scott E. Blackman" 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:36:03 -0600
Subject: "Lyric Sightings?"

I know fellow RUSH folk submit exciting news of a purchase or change which 
result in the number 2112, but how often do you see  or witness a RUSH  
lyric in the world??  Those who have played the game Warcraft II should know 
of one of the cheat commands which is sure to be the result of the
programer's love of RUSH.  For those who who want to learn of another great 
presence, though indeed obscure, the words are this: "glittering prizes".  
This is the cheat command in the game to award you vast sums of riches.  
If you don't know the game, go get it.  It is excellent.  

Also, how many of you have a square picture disk of Roll the Bones? Besides 
the tune, there is also an interview with Alex.  Paid $10.00 for it a while 
back.  It is from the U.K.  For a truly excellent time visit the site for 
Little Green Men, a group of guys who have excellent origanals
and are also able to play over 25 RUSH tunes......WELL!
"Thankyou very kindly,goodnight!!" or 


From: CamMan123 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:59:40 EST
Subject: Re: Presto

<<<  Now, as for Rush content, I've been making my way back around to Presto
again as of late, and I was wondering that, when listening to this album, does
anyone find themselves cranking up the bass and turning down the treble, just
to get the sound to *resemble* the rockingness of albums like Grace Under
Pressure and Test 4 Echo?? (and before you flame me, let me state that if I
have to capitalize the word God, I'm sure as hell NOT abbreviating Rush album
titles, so dont remind me! :))  This album (Presto) sounds awfully
unsubstantial unless I max out the bass and crank the hell out of it....  >>>

Absolutely. While Presto is my favorite Rush album, I always have to do some
tweaking of the bass and treble to get it sounding not too tinny (even moreso
with Roll The Bones). Well, that and set it to skip War Paint and

   [ Hey, I *like* War Paint (except the repeating chorus at the end... once
     was quite enough thank you)                                  : rush-mgr ]



From: CamMan123 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:05:47 EST
Subject: Re: Age

<<< And now to something completly different:
I thought about the average age of the Rush-fans (or the people at
TNMS). What will it be? My bet is: far beyond thirty! Am I right? >>>

Okay, I'll bite. As of today, 24



From: NakedAspn1 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:19:05 EST
Subject: Re: Where is Middle Town?

If any one cares...the is also a Middletown, IA. Its in SE Iowa, west of
Burlington on  highway 34.

Thats My 2 cents

 --Smoke :^P


From: "Phelan" 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:29:34 -0500
Subject: Fav Musicians

Hmmm....good question man :)

I love the i have a ton of favs in this category...Hendrix =
and Stevie Ray Vaughan tie for first in my list...they can do some =
amazing stuff with the fretboard...Joe Satriani is awesome as well.  =
Clapton is good as well...and...lets see...oh yeah, Lifeson (of course), =
David Guilmore, George Thorogood and Robben Ford...i love the blues :) =
and Rush too of course :)

Bass is hard, because i havent really paid that much attention to =
it...mostly to the drums and guitar.  Geddy is great....i think Rush is =
the only band that i know of where i can actually hear the bass without =
too much struggle. =20

Drums...Neil Peart, Carl Palmer...two of the best players ever...both of =
them are really progressive i think. Phil Collins is also a good one...

I might toss this one into the mix...what about piano/keyboards? Reese =
Wynans, Dr John and Keith Emerson are my personal favs...



From: "Elias Granillo, Jr." 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:34:07 -0800
Subject: Ongoing Drummer Debate...

> From: "John E. Heald" 
> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 04:14:59 -0800
> Subject: The ongoing drummer debate...
> Michael, you have great taste! Barrimore Barlow also worked with Kerry
> Livgren on his first solo release, great player. I'd also add Mike
> Mangini (ex-extreme), Mike Sturgis (Asia, Wishbone Ash, 21 Guns), Ken
> Mary (House of Lords, Impellitteri) and the guy who plays for Talisman.
> Tourniquet's drummer, Ted Kirkpatrick, is also terrific. His style
> reminds me most of Neil ( we will have SOME Rush content). E-man,
> way to wreak havoc with my credibility! ( if I had any to begin
> with) ;^)>

Oh, you love it!

Kirkpatrick kicks ass! Yo! I got three words for y'all: Pathogenic Ocular



From: (David Watson)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:47:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Tom Sawyer rap

The rap song that samples "Tom Sawyer" is Young Black Teenagers' "Time to
Make the Dough Nutz" on the album _Dead Enz Kidz Doing Lifetime Bidz_. 
Biz Markie also gave the song props in an article in Spin on great breaks
to rap over.

Dave Watson, Severed Heads Liberation Front (Re-release the _Stretcher_ EP!)
Frezier Balzoff (Ottawa), Ontario, Canada
My music and anime webpage:


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:55:50 -0800
Subject: Peart and Shakespeare

>Rob Savoury said:
>a lot of people give Peart credit for things he did not write.
>Prime example...a few days ago someone wrote a letter and as a 
>sub-script used a quote from limelight that reads as follows
>                      All the world's indeed a stage
>                      and we are merly player's
>                      performers and portrayer's
>                      each anothers audience
>                      outside the guilded cage
>They proceeded to credit this quote to Neil Peart when,in actual fact
>it is a quote from Shakespere.

I hope I'm not totally off-base here, but I recall Shakespe(A)re's quote
as "All the world's a stage and all the men and women merely players. 
They perform their roles..."  I'm not positive, but that's the gist. 
And old Bill swiped it from Bacon anyway.

NOT quite the same as Neil's bit.  And it's "gilded" cage--as in covered
in gold, not built by a guild.

Anyone heard the hilarious rumor that Shakespeare wrote the 47th Psalm? 
e-me for details.
"Is anal retentive two words or just one, and if only one, is it
hyphenated?"--Mad Mike


From: Hanstones 
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 00:24:37 EST
Subject: Capture my thoughts and carry them.....

Thanks to Erik DePoy for nominating me for the Syrinx.  By the way, Erik, the
checks in the mail! :)

> I'd like to nominate Hanstones for a Syrinx Award. Not only is he one
>  of TNMS's more frequent posters, his website "Power Windows: A Tribute
>  to the Album Art (and Music) of Rush" (
>  is the ultimate resource for those looking for Rush wallpaper, desktop
>  themes, animated cursors, and midi files. I wish such pages were
>  available for other musical groups. Hanstones has also helped me out
>  with follow-up technical advice and as a result I've learned a good deal
>  more about how to exploit my computer's capabilities. 

Although there are many flames on the NMS, I have made many friends here and
enjoy continued correspondence with them (from Half the World away, right
Erik?).  When I first got wired into the net, I found very few Rush artwork
images suitable for wallpaper and only 1 Desktop Theme.  My site started when
I altered the HYF juggler photo, which many people asked for when I offered it
here on the NMS.  Since then its become a hobby (or obsession!), and I always
love to help another fan.  It's also amazing how many emails I get from my
website from Rush fans that haven't heard of the NMS.  Needless to say, I do
my best to point them in the right direction (any of you guys subscribed

Anyone with Windows 95 Plus that hasn't been to my site has got to check it
out.  You won't be sorry.  Trust me!  We all have great taste, right?
Coming soon to  ---> Permanent Waves desktop theme
(really, I promise), plus more wallpaper images.

Thanks again for the plug Erik, stop by for a brewski next time you're in the


From: Caroline in the City 
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 98 00:37:24 -0500
Subject: Re: other favorite drummers

Hey fellow Rush freaks!

I must apologize for the lack of Rush content...I just read Marco's 
favorite drummers, and was so excited to see Bill Stewart in the list! 
Bill went to college with my brother, Doug Weiss (who is a big name in 
the NYC jazz scene...he's a bassist...ANYWAY...). I've known Bill for 
years, and I'm glad he's finally getting the recognition he deserves! You 
have great taste, Marco!

Caroline Wise

"No, Monica, I didn't tell you to lie in the deposition...
 I told you to LIE IN THAT POSITION!" --Bill Clinton


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:45:19 -0800
Subject: questions and answers

Is "The Story of Kings" CD out of print?  I keep seeing people offer to
sell it.  Haven't been in a record sore in months.

To the person who said Julien Daigle isn't the reincarnation of Buddha. 
Damn right!  _I_ am!  Just kidding.

RE:  the fictional account of meeting Neil:  I meet a lot of famous
actors in my work.  The WORST way to start is to pretend not to know
someone, then try to let it slip later.  Just acknowledge them, and
treat them like a normal person.  I had a great conversation and
drinking bout with Gary Lockwood of 2001 and Star Trek.  I said, "Hi,
Mr. Lockwood, what's new?" 
He started telling me about his job as an architect (since he stopped
acting in 1968 or so, although he may do some more soon, he admitted),
then we started discussing booze--he's an aficionado of tequila, I of
Scotch.  We went to the hotel bar to experiment...
If I met Neil, I'd probably just say, "Hi, Mr. Peart, How are things
That leaves it up to him to pick a subject of converstion, or not.



From: "Elias Granillo, Jr." 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:55:12 -0800
Subject: Re: Rate The Musicians

> From: greg cormier 
> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 98 17:10:23 EST
> Subject: rate the musicians
> Just to get everyone thinking of something other than when is the new album 
> coming out ....etc. Tell me what are your top 10 musicians at Lead guitar,
> Bass,and drums. 

I'm game: (in no particular order, of course)

6-String Wailers 'n' Criers: Alex Lifeson, John Petrucci, Jimi Hendrix,
Carlos Santana, Jim Matheos, Henry J. Osborne (Djam Karet), Bill Berends
(Mastermind), Edgar Froese (even though he plays so friggin' little
nowadays, it's all keys), Kerry Livgren, Frank Zappa.
4-String Hummers 'n' Throbbers: Geddy Lee, John Francis "Jaco" Pastorios,
Stanley Clarke, Zeek (Eternity X), Atsushi Hasegawa (Gerard), Tony Levin,
Chris Squire, John Myung,
Doug Pinnick, Pete Trewavas.

Skin-Beaters 'n' Pulse Pumpers: Neil Peart, Mark Zonder, Terry Bozzio,
Jimmy Peruta (Eternity X), Bill Bruford, Stewart Copeland, Mike Portnoy,
John Heald, Anders Johansson, Rich Berends (Mastermind).

Ivory-Ticklers 'n' Pounders: Rick Wakeman, Toshio Egawa (Gerard), Vitalij
Kuprij (he's only 22, and he can SMOKE), Jens Johansson, Mark Kelly, Edgar
Froese/Johannes Schmoelling (Tangerine Dream), Claudio Simonetti (Goblin),
Keith Emerson, Ryo Okumoto (Spock's Beard), Clive Nolan. Plus, Kerry
Livgren could also fit into here, too.

Violinists, anyone? David Ragsdale, Eddie Jobson, David Cross & Matthew
Parmenter (Discipline), to name some.

Larnyx-Stranglers: ..awwww, I'm sick of typing.



From: Hanstones 
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:47:52 EST
Subject: Average age of NMSer

Frank (36 years old) wrote: >I thought about the average age of the Rush-fans
(or the people at TNMS). What will it be? My bet is: far beyond thirty! Am I

I recall around 6 months ago someone did a poll to which about 100 of us
answered.  The average age was 28.

Just another ute,


From: "Jeffrey Robinson" 
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 06:33:16 -0500
Subject: My 2 cents on the pub....

In the pub article, Mr.Mills (I'm assuming it was Mr. Mills) wrote
   "I knew in my heart of hearts he'd be an asshole in person." Then he went
on about the angry stare, and "and just.... do whatever you want to do....
whatever you have to do to heal.   Everybody worth a shit will understand,
just like it's always been with you & the band, no matter what you do."
Assuming this is true, and I hope it isn't, thinking that he will be an
"asshole" before you meet him is plain wrong. Thinking that he is an
"asshole" after this encounter is also wrong. You say that he is an
'asshole', but do you realize that he talked to you, and could have said
"No, you may not sit here." Neil let you sit with him, and then YOU treated
HIM with DISRESPECT.  He may act differewntly under normal circumstamces,
but you even worte that these are not normal circumstances. What do you
expect him to do, turn around and be joyful and happy to everyone, and
anyone, and continue making albums? To not get upset when some stranger
disrespects you, and your deceased daughter, by treating it like a minor
incident?  Think about this: Neil lost his ONLY daughter. Selena is not
something Neil can bike down to the nearest music store and purchase. She
was a living, breathing, feeling human being. He is, understandably, shaken
by her death, as any father would be.  Do you finally understand? HE LOST
HIS ONLY DAUGHTER!!! I honestly hope that he does take all the time in the
world that he needs to deal with the loss of Selena. I do believe that all
Rush fans should show their support to Neil, but to do it in a tactful way.
I like the idea of buying a Rush album on August 10th, the date of Selena's
death. I think that all Rush fans should not just buy any album, but, if it
has been released by then, the new live album. However, the 'do whatever you
have to do to heal' is innapropriate. He is trying to heal, and he doesn't
need people saying things of that sort to his person.
I have the utmost respect for Mr. Peart, not only as a musician, but a
decent, caring human being. I can only hope that you, Mr. Mills, never have
to experience what Neil is experiencing now. I hope nobody on this list, or
in this world, has to deal with this type of thing ever again. Alas, I know
this is an impossibility, and no parent should outlive their child.

None of us can share his pain, and  none of us can understand what he is
feeling. What happened to Neil is a tragedy, and I hope that Neil  finds his
solace as soon as possible.
I just hope that this story is a farce.

   [ As was pointed out a few digests ago, the story was merely fiction.
     Sure got a lot of people riled up though...                : rush-mgr ]

Jeff Robinson


Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:59:42 -0300 
Subject: Top 5 drummers

Well, this list will probably come under tons of fire, but you know
what, i am
going to add two lists.
1. Mike Portnoy From: Julien Daigle 
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:39:09 -0400
Subject: Samuel Daigle

	Just as I thought, my pathetic insults have put some into flame. how
come is it so easy to provoke some of you Rushians? You always  take
things so seriously, don't you have anything else to do? And for those
who think this is Julien having schizophrenic tendencies, you are wrong!
However, I have no way of prooving this(If you think of something,
please tell me). I'm his real brother...As for the same adress : we live
inthe same house, he is subscribed to NMS, and I read his posts
everyday. Why wouldn't I sign my name as Julien's brother, it'll just
make you speculate even more, or bombard both of us with falsly-based
pejorative comments. Only a weak-willed individual would succomb to
	But why constantly babble on about Julien's supposedly insane ideas and
motives? Don't you have anything better to do than shut down people's
ideas just because they're not yours or you simply don't agree with
them. Give the guy some respect! He wrote what he thought, that's it!
Where's the crime? Where's the insanity?
	They condemned Jules Verne for insanity because he was the first one to
think of the time-machine or the submarine. and look what happened...
	We can't always shut-down somebody's ideas by expressing  narrow-minded
remarks. Respect it, and politly don't agree. If you are tired of
reading it, don't!

						Samuel Daigle


From: "Jen Fisher" 
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 06:48:54 PST
Subject: Virgins for the Secret Society

Frank Mahle  wrote:

<< I never saw it this way, but it is a nice idea: Let us pray to 
beautyful young (and naked?) women. But we also need virgins, a lot of 
virgins for the rituals........Where are the virgins? >>

I'm a virgin, and not yet a member of the Secret Society. Anyone care to 
initiate me? ;)



From: Peter Geissler 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:05:14 -0500
Subject: Crashing the stage continued.

MPK@BDI-AE.COM (Michael P. Kane) wrote this thing about crashing the

And I think he's right.  Admittedly, running around up there for a
second would be a cool little novelty, but shooting a driver who has
just cut you off in the face would also be a cool little novelty, but
you just don't do it because you hope the guy is worth more than one
stupid act (unless he doesn't like Rush or is a Spice Girls groupie, in
which case you should just shoot him and not worry.)

The idea of enjoying a whole concert is worth more than one stupid act.
Which is why I enjoyed it in Los Angeles when some roadies starting
beating the piss out of this cracker who ran up on stage (RTB?).

In a related story, someone threw an entire beer onto Les Claypool at
Roseland this last Monday night, and the throwee was publicly
castigated.  Now, this is the third time I've seen this happen to Primus
(out of 5 shows).  (Lest you wonder, I'm a Primus groupie, and we
worship a little stuffed doll of Eric Cartman while we snort ajax.  Most
of us have a large bone pierced through our skulls.  Join us.  Help me,

Can't we think of some creative suggestions to deal with these morons?
Or should they just be ignored?  Should we ignore the guy who cuts us
off, shoot him in the face, or give him flowers?  Should we give flowers
to just anyone, just because we feel like it?  I don't know.  I'm
confused, so I'm gonna go shoot myself in the face until I stop typing
the phrase 'shoot in the face'.)

Zaphod Beeblebrox


From: Taj Dickinson 
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:33:55 -0500
Subject: Rush: the magic of the internet

I must say that the magic of Rush never ceases to amaze me. My ISP is a
complete piece of crap and I have trouble connecting soemtimes. I could
try to connect for twenty minutes and get nothing but a busy signal. But
the last three times that I had that problem, all I had to do was throw
in a Rush CD and, BAM! I'm on :) Tonight it happened to be Lakeside
Park, the insparation of this letter, that got me connected. Hehe, bring
on the magic :)


From: "Robert G. Bolton" 
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:03:50 -0800
Subject: Julien SHUT UP!!


            I won't mistake your ideas as insanity, your FAR TOO much an
ego-maniac to be considered just insane!!
     Remember, the gene pool needs some chlorine, so drink heavily!


From: "Terry Hoffer" 
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:34:51 PST
Subject: What might be included from H. Odeon Show (2nd live disk)

Responding to S. Berrets' post:

If they use the H. Odeon show from the Hemispheres tour:
I think we can expect to see Cygnus X-I/Hemispheres for sure,
and probably A Farewell to Kings and Circumstances... it is also
possible that everything except for 2112 will be included (since it was
on ATWAS).
If they use the H. Odeon show from the Perm. Waves Tour:
We'll still get both books of Cygnus (except I think Hemispheres is
abbreviated for that tour) and probably Natural Science too ;-)

So the question is ... which tour will they use? 
I thought before that the complete 2112 might appear on the new live
album, now I think it would be redundant since most of it (- Oracle) was 
done for ATWAS. 

Reading into what was said about Rush not going into the studio
to record this year seems to make sense. Live album late this year,
next studio (?) late 1999 or 1/1/2000. 
Neil writing... one could infer he's working on his second "T4E tour
by motorcycle" book... this is a good thing. and something that should
make for a great read. I hope it inspires some great lyrics for the next
Yup, the English pub psuedo-encounter w NP was believeable, a
good story to ponder if you did actually run in to him. 
Thanks, to everyone posting Rush-related news...and *insider info*..!

Rushin' on


From: Guy Walker 
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:49:05 -0600
Subject: new bootleg

 Heard a new bootleg off the TFE tour,can't remember the name.It's a triple sounds alright...for a non-board mix.I think it was from New jersey.
First one off any recent tours that I've seen...I could be wrong.One thing's
for sure....the boys were really on...swinging man,swinging.


From: Little Drummer Boy 
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:08:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Drum Debate

> From: Harry Johnson 
> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:37:05 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Settle a dispute about Neil's Drums
> A friend and I are arguing about whether Neil's kit did the turn
> around thing between his electronic and acoustic drums on the TFE
> tour.  Anyone remember?  Anyone specifically at the Charlotte show?

>From what i recall, Neil his the echoing drums once, lets
it echo.  A second time, lets it echo, then stands up.  Then
hits is a third time and sits down on the electronic side.
I remember the set spinning a little over half the way around,
so that Neil would be facing ppl that were on his left
for most of the show.


From: Marco Mendonca 
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:40:23 -0300
Subject: RES: Unreleased Rush songs

I have here some RUSH's album (CD) called "Live from the Eletric Ladyland 
Studios 1974" with THA GUYZ playing some songs from RUSH and some from 
(unreleased at that time) FLY BY NIGHT. It's from KLONDYKE RECORDS and has 
a track which reads:

	"CAN'T YOU SEE (unreleased track) - 4:10"


>I may be remembering this wrong, but I recall listening to "The Story of
>Kings" CD interview (which I don't own anymore) where Alex said there was a
>song scrapped from the first album.

>Just a thought.



From: Marco Mendonca 
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:49:14 -0300
Subject: RE: The Rush SecSoc




From: UberMar 
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:22:33 EST
Subject: C-Money = sexist slob

>>Finally, here's an idea for a new thread (please, no flames yet):  
>>What song(s) would be good for a wedding?
>>Entre Nous
>>Different Strings
>>That's my plan, anyhoooo.
>Man, I hope you enjoy being single, because no chick is gonna let that
>happen at her wedding.
>   [ Oh REALLY?                                              : rush-mgr ]
>c money

Yeah, Oh Really.  Hey, C, there ya go assuming everyone on this list is a tri-
pod.  I am a chick, and it is SO gonna happen.  Stupid.

Mar (a chick, duh)


From: (Derek Tetlow)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:12:33 -0700
Subject: Re: 03/20/98 - The National Midnight Star #1992

Hi all!

My girlfriend (who is also a Rushian) and I had a discussion on which
was the most well known Rush song in the view of the public eye;  I say
Tom Sawyer and she says Spirit of Radio.  Any thoughts out there to
settle this little dipute?

"Sadder still to watch it die than never to have known it."

Derek Tetlow
Streamline Sports Video
"Simplification through Modernization"


From: (Brian M Donlin)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:17:30 EST
Subject: Re: Rush, of course

>>As I remember it, that was the beginning of the end of RUSH on Mtv.
I don't remember any videos actually being played from any album after

I actually saw "Half the World" the night of  first leg of T4E tour on
MTV. After the second show during the second leg, I got the video for
"Driven" off of MuchMusic.

Now I'm pissed because my cable company stopped getting MuchMusic. A lot
of videos get played on that, though. Got a tape full of them :)

"A spirit with a vision, is a dream with a mission." ~ N. Peart, Rush


From: (Ryan  N Waggoner)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:15:12 -0500
Subject: Fave drummers/top 10 (non-Rush) albums

Ok.  I'm finally gettin' around to posting my picks here, so...

Fave drummers (other than Neil)....

*Paul Roraback  (Grammatrain)
*Stewart Copeland  (The Police)
*Peter Furler/Duncan Phillips  (Newsboys)
*Louis Weaver  (Petra)
*Phil Ehart  (Kansas)
*Todd Sucherman/John Panozzo  (Styx)
*John "Bermuda" Schwartz  ("Weird Al" Yankovic)
*Scott Savage  (Jars Of Clay tour drummer)
*Brian DuVall  (Johnny Q. Public)
*Jason Carson  (The Orange County Supertones  (a.k.a.  The Supertones) )
*Mark Does  (Trailer Park Heroes)  
*Chris Thomas  (Roaster)
*Roger Taylor  (Queen)
*Nick Mason  (Pink Floyd)
*Trent Reznor/Trent Reznor's computer  (Nine Inch Nails)
*Jerry Gaskill (King's X)
*John Bonham  (Led Zeppelin)
*Carter Beauford  (Dave Matthews Band)
*Ginger Baker  (Cream/Blind Faith)
*Keith Moon  (The Who)
*Jim Gordon  (Derek And The Dominos)
*Carl Palmer  (Emerson, Lake, & Palmer)
*Alex Van Halen  (Van Halen)

Top 10 Non-RUSH albums....

10.  'Dogman'  --  King's X
9.  '1984'  --  Van Halen
8.  'Freaks Of Nature'  --  Kansas
7.  'The Wall'  --  Pink Floyd
6.  'Da Da Da'  --  TRIO
5.  'Take Me To Your Leader'  --  Newsboys
4.  'Brain Salad Surgery'  --  Emerson, Lake, & Palmer
3.  'A Night At The Opera'  --  Queen
2.  'Rocks-Volume 1'  --  Queen
1.  'Flying'  --  Grammatrain



From: Rushman523 
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:30:12 EST
Subject: Re: 03/20/98 - The National Midnight Star #1992

Hello Fellow Rush fans,

          A friend of mine and I are having a debt here. I think that Geddy
lee was the guy who got Rush together. I had heard in an interview with Alex
that Geddy interduced him to John Rutsey. And it also my belief that Geddy was
the first to hear Neil.  So if any one can help me with this debate.



From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:35:08 -0800
Subject: disconnected comments

no one has mentioned Jonathan Mover as a drummer--Stu Hamm, GTR, several
other groups.
I agree that the bass on RTB is virtually non-existent.
I like REM's music, but their lyrics are trully obscure and stupid--they
should stick to instrumentals ("follow me don't follow me, I've got my
spine, I've got my orange crush??????""Oh , no, I've said too much, I
haven't said enough.  That's me in the corner, that's me in the
spotlight losing my religion?????"  WHAT IN THE NAME OF GOD AND RUDYARD
rant mode off.
Still trying to reach Giuseppe Fortino.  E-me dude.
So, you with a copy of "The Larger Bowl"--tell us--what's it sound
like?  What are the lyrics?
There are a TON of Rush fans at the Indpls Gun Show--I sold several Rush
related stickers.
Caroline In The City, are you still there?  Didn't get any response to
my last e--did you get it?

KAR:  I have the M-60 and 3 silencers as requested.  How much ammo will
we need?  And do we have any use for my Steyr AUG?



From: Phil Humpherys 
Date: 23 Mar 1998 00:16:28 -0700
Subject: Re: Fav. Drummers... (Randy Campbell) writes:

> My favorite drummers are as follows

1. John Bonham
2. Keith Moon
3. Neil Peart

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From: "Brian T. Peterson" 
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:44:19 -0700
Subject: Julien, Julien, Julien . . . Alex?

Hello everybody!

It seems lately that half of the posts on the NMS contain the subject
words, "Julien Daigle," and/or "Rush Secret Society." Some of these
posts are from Julien himself. And some of these posts are from people
flaming Julien. 

So, is Julien Daigle actually Alex Lifeson?  One cannot help but wonder
>. . . 

"Catch the witness, catch the wit, catch the spirit, catch the FISH!"

As Julien would say, RUSH on,

"We travel in the dark of the new moon."


Date:          Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:50:04 GMT0BST
Subject: Rush songs for a wedding

Rush songs for a wedding is a pretty terrible idea, but you might try 
the following:
Distant Early Warning
Time Stand Still
The entire Fear trilogy
Something for Nothing
Force Ten (tough times demand tough hearts)
I am sure other subscribers can improve on this.


Date:          Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:03:46 GMT0BST
Subject: Body Electric

Amusing Rush stories, number 637.

I was at the Milton Keynes Bowl in 1984 for the last ever Status Quo 
gig - well, that's what it was packaged as.  On the bill were 
Nazareth, Marillion etc.  I went principally to see Marillion and to 
attend what we all thought was going to be a historic day.  As it 
turned out Quo decided to go on the road again, but that is 
by-the-by.  During the afternoon, filled with some pretty dreadful 
bands, the DJ came on and cried out, "Does anybody want to hear some 
Rush", to which 20,000 people bellowed "Yeeeeeeessssss".   "Okay, 
here's The Body Electric", to which 20,000 thousand people whispered 
"Noooooooooooooooooooooo".  After all, whenj someone offers you Rush 
through a big PA, you don't need that, do you?
Yours, not afraid to say if he doesn't like a Rush song.
Dr Paul


From: greg cormier 
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 7:42:20 EST
Subject: Exit Stage Left...

  It was another gloomy weekend with a mix of sleet snow and rain here in 
New England.Confined to indoor quarters I went through all my Rush stuff 
and dusted off my Exit Stage Left video.I popped it in to the VCR and sat 
back to enjoy the show.I hadn't watched this video for quite some time but 
was pleasantly reminded how good it was.The live By-Tor and Trees/Xanadu 
versions are worth the price of the video alone.The only part that wasn't 
so pleasant,to the eye,was the wardrobe of one Alex Lifeson.That Orange 
blazer must of been one of a kind because I've never seen one before or 
after that.My ears were not disappointed and the OPrange blazer was only a 
slight distraction.
I wouldn't rate this video as their best overall production but the set 
list is excellent and shows the band just after the Moving Pictures album 
really coming in to their own.
    Did the band ever release a video following the live "All the World's a 
Stage" album release? I have three concert video's that have been released 
by the band,Exit Stage Left,Grace Under Pressure,and A show of hands,the 
later being my favorite video.The overall audio and video quality are 
excellent and once again the set list is perfect.The wardrobes are even 
respectful so you can't miss with this video.Are there other concert 
video's that have been released by the band ? What are other peoples 
favorite band released video's and for what reasons ?  


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