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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2018

                   Monday, 27 Apr 1998

Today's Topics:
               Aaron Calder (Dream Theater)
               rush sighting....hypocrites
                  Hiwatt Speaker Cabinet
                    Re: Xanadu tea...
                       New Threads?
                       playing 2112
      Rush has lost some of their sound and style!!
             Re:San Antonio Concert Promotion
                 Rush as a back-up band?
                   Presto Tour songlist
                     Caress Of Steel
                  Re: Riverside what????
             More accurate tour dates listing
                    re: Sean Carroll 
                       Pop-Up Video
                   Skipping Issue #2112
               Re: opinion on Neil's videos
                    Maple Leaf Gardens
                 Columbus, Ohio Musicians
                  pentagram (the truth)
     Re: 04/24/98 - The National Midnight Star #2017
                     front row seats
                    THE 1998 RUSH TOUR
            Re:  Jessica Henderson & Rush cds
              Re: Closing Maple Leaf Gardens
                      STAGE CHATTER
                    The presto debate
                   "never stand still"
      Anyone REALLY know what's going on with them?

From: (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Mon Apr 27 10:23:58 PDT 1998
Subject: Administrivia

Lots of news and notes for this issue...

First, the pop-up video thing. Pop-Up's web site is
and it has a listing for the episode and also has a listing of airdates
for each show up until May 9th. Good news: they're not only showing "Limelight"
but the Tears Are Not Enough video (Geddy sang in this, but I don't remember
if he's in the video or not).

Here's the listing for episode #81:

SHOW #81 - Canadian Invasion
           VIDEO                         ARTIST
           Sunglasses at Night           Corey Hart 
           Cuts like a Knife             Bryan Adams 
           Limelight                     Rush 
           Keep on Rock'in               Neil Young 
           Tears are not Enough          Northern Lights 

Bad news: best I can tell, the episode is not showing until AT LEAST May 10th,
because it doesn't show up in the current schedule (through May 9th) which
is odd considering they're showing episodes 86 & 84 on the 9th...

Next, on the Maple Leaf Gardens closing, here's a direct article that scoots
was able to dig up for me:

>>Says Joe Pantalone, Chairman of the Board of Exhibition Place, ``Entering 
formal negotiations with Maple Leaf Gardens confirms our solid commitment to 
the revitalization of Exhibition Place. This project builds on the successes 
of the National Trade Centre and will bring more business opportunities and
entertainment value to the site.'' The proposal is for a two-phase development,
to begin after Exhibition Stadium is demo-lished. The first phase would use 
about 12.5 acres and include the construction and operation of the new 19,000 
seat multi-purpose arena, a parking facility for 1,200 vehicles and other 
entertainment developments. The goal is to have the facilities operational for 
the first Leafs game in September 2000.<<

So it sounds like MLG won't be torn down for a while, possibly not even until
next year!

Finally, REAL Rush news!!

  * Neil will begin work with Hugh on packaging for the live album, probably in

  * They also plan to start writting a new studio record later this year or
    early next year

  * They want to release the album in January of 2000

 - rush-mgr

ps. we're thinking about a San Diego Rush party sometime soon (before my old
carpet is replaced ;-)  anyone in San Diego or LA (or anywhere else that can
get down to San Diego) feel like having a party? Drop me some email...


From: "Pierre Tessier" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:01:19 EST
Subject: Aaron Calder (Dream Theater)

I am glad that you discovered Dream Theater, they are number 2 for me 
(guess who is number 1)....

I know they did cover some Rush songs in the past and apparently Neil 
was not impressed with it. But Ill check with the people on theYtsejam 
mailling list and find out more about this and report to the NMS next week.

They are currently touring in the US so check the web for dates if 
you want to cacht them live, they are like Rush live they usually 
dont deviate much from the original song.


>...Living comes much easier,  once you admit your dying....  Dream Theater
Pierre Tessier
Technologue, Medias et Technologie



From: "Ball, Bill" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:31:18 -0500
Subject: rush sighting....hypocrites

Was flipping through channels last night, and came across VH-1.  They 
had some special on about sci-fi movies.  They were talking about 
Terminator 2 and in the background they were playing Driven.  Of 
course the band isn't good enough to make the top 100, but they can be 
used as background music.  I still say we go down to their building 
and paint a few red stars on the building.  Did anyone else happen to 
catch the show???



From: Alexander Segura 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:01:11 -0700
Subject: Hiwatt Speaker Cabinet

Hello fellow Rush fans and musicians, I'm looking to find someone with a
Hiwatt speaker cabinet for sale.
I'm looking for one that  has been manufactured between 1968 through
1978, I will however consider other years depending on condition and model.
 Do you have a Hiwatt Custom DR1003 from the same period you might part
with as well?
Write me  at



From: "Corey Lawson" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:24:09 -0700
Subject: Re: Xanadu tea...

>From: (Sean Jones)
>Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:55:06 -0700
>Subject: Workin Fellas, bumperstikers,

>Out here (I'm not too sure if it is anywhere else) a friend of mine
>works at a coffee shop and they have Xanadu Tea.  I went insane and
>bought a whole box of it, it just sits in my room and I laugh at it...
>Sorry... just thought I'd mention it...:)

And the box has a picture of Olivia Newton-John on it from the movie,

Corey Lawson


From: Dan 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:22:56 -0500
Subject: New Threads?

Does anyone here have any cool jewlery (rings, earrings, etc.) that
pertains to RUSH?  

How about tattoos?  (It's not necessary to tell WHERE the tattoo is! =) )

And for my final thread idea, someone already beat me to it!  Can you
imagine that? 

>From: "Will Holt" 
>Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:48:15 -0400
>Subject: Rush on 'Take the Hit'
>Anyone else hear the 'GO GEDDY!!!' at the beginning of the E...SL version of
>YYZ?  Who is that guy, anyway? :)

Good topic, Will!  Will the real GGG (Go Geddy Guy) please stand up?


"rising falling at force ten
we twist the world and ride the wind" - Neil Peart/Pye Dubois


From: "Foushee, Lane Russell" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:05:40 -0400
Subject: playing 2112

<< The 8 
year old especially.  He's been playing guitar for over a year now, and 
he literally kicks ass!!!  We have a lot of fun together because I play 
bass, and we get to jam(he LOVES to play 2112--Overture & Temples).>>  

Damn! And here I am in college and I can't find anybody to jam out to
2112 with. Much less any other Rush songs. I'm also a bass player and




From: "Chad Werner" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998  7:15 -0600

     Let me get this out of the way. The 2112 red star. Oh christ, I can't 
     believe I'm even going here.... Whether the band is satanic or wiccan 
     or christians or space aliens doesn't matter. The penta-whatever 
     doesn't prove anything; except that they liked poking at people's 
     moral sensibility. Come on. They (along w/ Hugh) KNEW what they were 
     doing in using the infamous red star; playing with satanic imagery for 
     the symbol of the oppressive federation. The fact that we're still 
     talking about it is proof of that. Mission accomplished, boys!
     Now, to make up for my contribution to the penta/satan/star/naked guy 
     thread, here's a neat story! While traversing Wisconsin on my way back 
     to college, I was driving through a thunder storm.... AND listening to 
     Presto (the plot thickens). EXACTLY as the line "...electrical storm 
     in your veins" was uttered, the hair on my arms stood up. A 
     microsecond later, lightning struck the ditch to the right of my 1982 
     Plymouth Horizon. This is all true. It was rather spectacular. 
     P.S. My 1982 Plymouth Horizon was called "the Happy Snacker" (ask if 
     you care - NOTHING to do with Rush).


From: Rushian953 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:20:37 EDT
Subject: Rush has lost some of their sound and style!!

Hey There Rushianites!!!!!
I have noticed that the last two albums do not exactly sound like rush.  I
tuned into a local radio station here in maine, and it was Driven, but for the
life of me I could not think of who wrote it, personally, I love rush, but I
can't get over this.  It seems like geddy has lost his voice alittle and not
nearly as orchestrated as their music in the past, What I am triing to say is
it is not totally Rush!!!  If you agree do not hesitate to e-mail me!!!!!!!
As they say in is not a car, but a kah!!!!!so lets
take the kah to bah habaa (Bar Harbor).


From: "John Villasana" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:58:02 -0500
Subject: Re:San Antonio Concert Promotion

Yesterday I recieved a very well done fold out flyer in the mail.  It =
was a promotion for 99.5 KISS radio station advertising 6 concert fly =
away packages.  They called it a six pack of concert flyaways.  There =
was paicture of the top of a six pack in the graphics.  Each can had a =
name of a concert.  Included were Pearl Jam,  Metallica,  Ozzfest,  Van =
Halen,  Robert Plant/Jimmy Page,  and ....RUSH.  There's also mention of =
a seventh concert with the Rolling Stones at Wembly stadium. =20

This is probably one of the nicest advertisements I have ever recieved =
from them.  I have to disagree with the Rush Mgr on this one,  I don't =
think that this is just DJ hearsay.  I don't think they would go ahead =
with a promotion of this scale,  include RUSH,   and not have some =
inkling of what they are talking about. =20

John (refab) Villasana


From: "Wayne Tapia" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:21:28 -0700
Subject: Rush as a back-up band?

Now before any of you get your panties in a twist, this is only a dorky
attempt at a thread, so please don't get offended or bent out of shape
because you think it's stupid (I already know it's stupid).

You know how sometimes solo artists will use established bands as back-up
for tours or limited engagement shows (for example: Chuck Berry w/ the E
street band, Eric Clapton w/ The Robert Cray Band, that sort of thing). I
was listening to Peter Gabriel's "Secret World Live" CD the other day, and
thought that it could be kind of cool to see the boys backing someone like
Gabriel. Any other Ideas from out in Rushland?
 BTW, hey rush mgr, I found a bunch of stubs from Seattle / Tacoma shows
from MP to the present. Need any scanned? You may have some of these
already, so I just thought I'd ask.

   [ I want ANY AND ALL ticket stub scans, even if I already have them!!
                                                               : rush-mgr ]

"...I'll kill you..." Psycho from "Stripes"


From: sara olson 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:36:04 +0000

As a RUSH fanatic for 19 years I would never post anything I thought was
bogus.  After about 10,000 times listening to Alien Shore, I swear it
hit me when I started hearing unclear speaking or chanting during the
last instrumental section-you almost have to not even listen to the
music-JUST KEEP HITTING REWIND-Who is it and what is he saying-it's like
a very  muffled version of "we have assumed control" or something.
How can we decipher this?
I am convinced there is some kind of hidden chanting or message at the
last instrumental section on ALIEN SHORE.  I am not the only one who is
convinced.  It's not guitar or keyboard, reverb, or echo either.

"This is a song about a town right down the road from a matter
a fact we drove though it on our way here tonight.....this-is.......,
Middletown Dreams....."Power Windows Tour/Hartford CT


From: Eric Hansen 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:45:46 -0600
Subject: Presto Tour songlist

Here is the song list for the Presto tour, taken from NMS #99.  I have also 
read somewhere that during the pre-tour shows or sound checks, Lerxst tried 
to do Presto but couldn't get it right and gave up in frustration.  Too many 
overdubs, etc.  Needless to say, where I read that, I cannot recall.  

 - Presto Tour --
The Big Money (played before April 3)
Closer to the Heart
Distant Early Warning
Drum Solo
Force Ten
In The Mood
La Villa Strangiato
Manhattan Project
The Pass
Red Barchetta
Show Don't Tell
The Spirit of Radio (played April 3 and after)
Time Stand Still
Tom Sawyer
War Paint

'Nuff said.
By the way, Holy Bitch, I have to say the mail server is awesome.

   [ Thanks, glad you like it! Too bad I'm still missing some of the older
     digests, I wasn't able to get them off before retiring the old
     machine... one of these days I'll resurrect it and get them off.
     They're all on the web page though ;-)                      : rush-mgr ]



From: (Chuck Flowers)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:22:46 EDT
Subject: stooges

It appears that Alex did the 3 Stooges thing at every Rush show, and I
know he did the 3 times I saw the Test For Echo Tour.  The fact that he
did the same gimmick at every show leads to a major complaint about Rush
concerts:  lack of spontaneity.  The Stooges thing is suddenly not so
funny when I realize that he does it every night.  It's kind of like when
I saw Van Halen a couple of years ago and Sammy came out in a Houston
Rockets jersey.  Most on the crowd tripped out because of the jersey,
failing to realize that he would be wearing a Spurs jersey the next night
in San Antonio.  By the time I saw Test For Echo for the 3rd time, I was
quite bored with it all (were you bored too, Codeman?) because I knew
exactly what I was getting.

In addition to using the same jokes, they also use the same set list for
the entire tour (with maybe 1 or 2 substitutions along the way). 
Although I will always still catch Rush shows when they are in my area,
it is not as much fun as some of the other shows that I really look
forward to.  My favorite bands to see live (such as FNM, Bosstones)
always come in with the crowd wondering what they are gonna see and hear
different that night.  Maybe half the set list is written in stone and
the other half is written right before the show.   This makes the
anticipation many times greater for me and that is an important part of
the concert-going experience.  I feel like Rush is a well planned
theatrical production and have lost much of what Rock & Roll is to me: 
spontaneity and live improvisation.  I think they are the greatest
recorded group ever, but the live show is somewhat lacking.

c money


From: YAguirre 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:24:05 EDT
Subject: Caress Of Steel

In response to Kate Collins' query about the meaning of "COS" -
IMHO, as a guitar player, caress of steel = playing a guitar (or bass).
Electric guitars and basses are strung with steel strings, and the act of
playing the instrument can be described as a "caress", hence the title.



From: Jim Questa 
Date: 	Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Riverside what????

Lot's of mis-information here - I thought I'd set the story straight.

The venue that the original poster was talking about is the Riverfront
Colisium   For the longest time, it
was the ONLY venue, aside from the Cincinnati Gardens, that would hold
rock concerts of any real size.  This is situated next to Riverfront
Stadium - renamed Cinergy Field just over a year ago - but rarely have
they held rock concerts there - only the Rolling Stones - Kool Jazz
Festival - large draws.

Riverfront Colisium was the sight of the Who Concert Tragedy - where 11 (I
think) people were trampled to death.  The insurance rates for the
Colisium became so high for musical events, most promoters stopped booking
shows there.  Since the construction of Riverbend Music Center - our
outdoor venue - most rock shows would skip Cincinnati during the winter
months so they could play at Riverbend in the summer.  And besides, the
Achoustics really DID suck.

RC was purchased by a group of investors (As the venue was privately
constructed - not a city owned building) and renamed the Crown.  The venue
has been completely refurbished, and it's my understanding (from some
knowledgeable sources) that the achoustics are MUCH better now.
Nedderlander Entertainment (who also books for Riverbend Music Center) has
become partners with the investors, and MANY shows of all kinds are
scheduled and held there now.

It appears that Riverfront Stadium is headed for the wrecking ball
shortly.  A new Football complex will be built down on the riverfront West
of the current facility - Baseball only facility looks like it will end up
on the east side of Downtown - the Crown will remain at it's current

there ya go - more information than ya wanted to know about Cincinnati
Venues. ;-)

   Jim  -

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From: Eric Hansen 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:47:20 -0600
Subject: More accurate tour dates listing

Rush mgr: in cross checking some of the dates of the bootlegs I have with the 
dates listed in NMS 99, I found many discrepencies.  Is this listing 
accurate?  Is there a more up to date listing somewhere? 

   [ The list featured in #99 was our VERY FIRST attempt at something that
     had never been done before (at least that we knew of ;-)  -- a *complete*
     listing of every date Rush has ever played! The most up-to-date list
     is on the NMS web site, under "Tour Dates Listing". If you haven't seen
     it, check it out! We've even put in links under dates that we have
     ticket stubs/fliers/newspaper articles/pictures for.     : rush-mgr ]


From: "Russell J. Thorpe" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:15:10 -0400
Subject: re: Sean Carroll 

Wow man, You are so cool.  If you are getting sick of posts, unsuscribe.  I
personally am getting sick of all the people that bitch.  Some folks won't
post anything but bitch lists about other posts.  If you don't like it,
don't read it.   You have a scroll bar in your mail program.... USE IT!  Of
the many people on NMS, I am sure that yopu can't get everyone of them to
agree with every post.

But, maybe I am wrong.  Maybe you are the one collective mind for the whole
mailing list.  EVERYONE communicates with you through telepathy, and you
speak for everyone.

If this is not the case, Shut the hell up!

One other thought,  If you don't like the way the Rush Mgr. manages this
list, MAKE YOUR OWN!  Then you can put in only the posts you wish to read!
You could even be the only one who posts, and then you can argue with
yourself about the dumb posts.


Russell Thorpe


From: "Fred Kessler" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:25:46 -0500
Subject: Pop-Up Video


Rush will, indeed be on Pop-Up Video, Episode #81.  The question is = when?
If you go to, they have air dates for all of the = shows they
do, but guess what?  Their list is not current; it only is current up to =
April 12.

I just e-mailed them to see when the hell they will air that show (called 
"Canadian Invasion").  I will get back to you if/when they get back to me.



From: "Fred Kessler" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:31:50 -0500
Subject: Skipping Issue #2112

Kevin Said:

>Don't know if this has come up before, but I propose that we simply =
skip issue #2112.

I think that if we skip issue #2112, then we should go all the way.  For =
example, if you are at some store, and your bill comes to $21.12, then =
you should just walk out of the store without making the purchase.  Or =
if your ATM password is 2112, you can no longer use the ATM Machines.

Just a thought.



From: "John J. Hathaway" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:44:59 -0600
Subject: Re: opinion on Neil's videos

WARNING: Long post with little actual Rush content.

> From: Brooke YOOL 
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:44:00 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: opinion on Neil's videos
> Hey folks --

>   Now, I'll admit to, in the past,
> having thought that drummers have excellent rhythm but don't know a whole
> lot about music itself, since they don't actually play notes.  Thanks to
> reading NMS and watching these vids, my opinion has changed.  Yeah, there
> are the drumemrse (a la Hanson) who do bare-minimum, let's keep the beat
> playing.  Then there are folks in the Neil category, who make drumming a
> work of art just as any top-notch guitarist, bassist, what have you.

I'd like to make a couple of comments regarding this post. First, 
welcome to enlightenment Brooke, glad you could join us. As a 
musician who plays the drums, I'm obviously sick of the bad
drummer jokes out there , e.g. Definition of a band: 3 musicians and a drummer.

Drummers, like other musicians, posess a wide variety of musical 
tastes as well as skillsets. I think any honest observer would agree 
that there are equally egregious examples of musical overkill (or 
monotony) displayed by guitarists, bassists and keyboardists. Just as 
music can be reduced to lowest common denominator status by plodding, 
unimaginative parts, soo too can it be reduced to a mere technical 
exercise by those refusing to show any restraint in the construction 
of parts and solos. While interesting as a showcase for technical 
ability, such displays can hardly be called musical.

Rush, like other progressive rock bands, has occasionally walked a 
very fine line between musicality and bombast. I credit our heroes 
with a great deal of restraint for choosing music over technical 
exercises. When you have the kind of chops they have it's very hard 
not to want to show them off constantly.

Don't forget, however, that in rock music one of the crucial elements 
of a song is the 'feel' or 'groove' that underlies it. I don't mean 
this in the 'Superconductor' sense but as a larger measure of what 
makes a great song. The drummer provides the direction to produce 
this feel or groove, and the complexity of a part is usually 
inversely proportional to the feel of the song, unless you posess the 
awesome talents of a Neil Peart, etc.

Listen to a Boz Scaggs song called "Lido Shuffle", from the Silk 
Degrees album (showing my age there) as an example of a song with a 
very non-embellished (don't call it simple) drum part that absolutely 
grooves as if there's no tomorrow. I could listen to that track for 
hours without getting tired of it. The drummer was Jeff Porcaro, who 
sadly is no longer with us. Another example, famous in drumming 
circles, is Steve Gadd's groove on Paul Simon's "50 Ways to Leave Your 
Lover." This part is more complex without losing any of the groove.

So please, don't confuse technical ability (actually, Gadd and 
Porcaro have/had loads of it) with musical skill. While chops can 
help facilitate good music, musicianship means a lot more than how 
fast you can play.

After all, a guy named Ringo did pretty well with one bass drum and 
two toms.


P.S. Cut Hanson some slack. I know quite a few drummers who don't 
have as much groove as that kid does.


From: Jeffrey Balog 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:47:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Maple Leaf Gardens

Can anyone from Toronto confirm if in fact the Maple Leaf Garden will be 
closing?  Where will the new home of the hockey team be?  If the Garden is 
to close in the very near future, wouldn't construction of a new arena 
be nearing completetion by now?  I doubt that the Maple Leaves will be 
leaving Toronto for a new city.  Certainly there would been a lot of talk 
about this move or proposed move.  Unfortunately, I think this fall show is
just a rumour.

   [ Read the article in the administrivia above, I think it answers your
     questions.                                                : rush-mgr ]


From: Jeff Shapiro 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:06:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Columbus, Ohio Musicians

I'm a drummer in the Columbus, Ohio area looking for a guitarist and bassist
to play Rush stuff with. Anyone interested??


From: (z z z)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:20:09 -0500
Subject: pentagram (the truth)

if you're debating the fact that Rush is a satanic band by the pentagram
on the cover of 2112, you're highly mistaken, and obviously don't know
what a pentagram means.  the star is what makes it a pentagram.  the
points all have a meaning.  since i can't remember the exact meaning of 
each line and point is, but i know the overall meaning.  it starts by
going down (man's attraction to the devil), and ends by going up (man's
ascension from the attraction to the devil).  that's if it points up,
which it does on the cover of 2112.  
if you don't believe what i say, look it up in a witchcraft, alchemy, or
black magic book.

"If at first you don't succeed, it's probably someone else's fault."


From: "Super Dave" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:01:54 EDT
Subject: Re: 04/24/98 - The National Midnight Star #2017

I'd be interested in talking to anyone who was at any of the Rush shows 
that I've seen over the past few years. I wish I'd gotten to see more, 
but alas, this is the best I've been able to do since 1990:

Roll The Bones -- Albany, NY (12-12-91) & New Haven, CT (3-14-92)
Counterparts -- Albany, NY (5-03-94) & Worcester, MA (3-12-94)
Test For Echo -- Boston, MA (9-09-96)



From: "Gary and Rhonda" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:26:19 -0500
Subject: front row seats

I have one wish!!!

To get front row seats for a Rush concert!!!!(better yet backstage passes).
I've seen Rush a number of times at all different angles, but never really
close up.

Could any of you fellow Rush fans Help me out???

How does one get front row or backstage passes?????

   [ One gets very VERY lucky, and knows a guy who is also very lucky who
     wins front row tickets and doesn't know anyone in town to bring but you!
     ;-)                                                         : rush-mgr ]

Gary Garceau


From: (Mark J. Lanzilla)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:18:24 -0400
Subject: THE 1998 RUSH TOUR

To the Rush mgr. and all on this listing====
I personally called the dj at KISS in San Antonio to confirm this Rush
tour stuff..
in his words====
They are, as a prize, going to send 2 people to Toronto to see Rush in
the fall.
this is no joke!!!!
They were giving away various trips to see different bands


From: Ray Lambert 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:29:50 -0400
Subject: couple-a-things

[lurker mode off]

> There is a Rush show planned before the closing of historic Maple Leaf's
> Garden.  No details if this is a one shot, a tour kick off, or what.
> More details later.
> --
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Kevin Vargas

Has anyone thought to check what the schedule is for the closing of MLG?
Or, to even verify that it's closing, for that matter?  I don't doubt that
it's closing but, if you find out it isn't, then that proves for certain
that there's no show.  If it is closing, then that establishes a time frame
for a potential show.  Perhaps someone from MLG can verify some of this?

   [ Check the article above. They ARE demolishing MLG at some point, but
     it might not be until next year.                          : rush-mgr ]

Also, I've noticed that when big venues like this close their doors they
usually have one big bash to close it with a bunch of celebs who have a
history with the venue.  Considering this, I think it is VERY likely that
Rush may show up at the 'closing bash' and maybe even bang-out a song or
two with a minimal set-up.  That may very well be the extent of this MLG show.


Regarding the red star controversy: Hugh Syme said it pretty plainly in the
interview blurb that was posted: The naked man represents the hero of the
story (and the movement he creates) and the star represents the oppressive
Solar Federation.  Taken together, the man and the star symbolize the
CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO, nothing more.  Specifically, it does not imply
ANYTHING about any potential resolution to the conflict.


Regarding the playing of Presto on the Presto tour: Someone (I forget who
it was) has asserted that Presto was played in Providence and Worcester.  I
cannot speak for the remainder of the tour, however, I was at both the
Providence and the Worcester shows and I can AUTHORITATIVELY state that
Presto WAS NOT PLAYED AT EITHER VENUE.  The person who asserted this was
mistaken and possibly confused the song Presto with some other song, as has
been suggested.

The reason I am so certain about this is because of circumstances that
existed around the time of the two shows.  The local Providence radio
station, WHJY, supported the Presto album VERY STRONGLY.  Probably the only
Rush album they supported more strongly was Moving Pictures!  One of the
reasons for this strong support was that the song Presto had become a
pretty large hit on the station.  One of their DJs (who is no longer with
them) was called Rick OB, and he was probably the biggest supporter.  He
was very excited when Rush came to town and he made no bones about it.
After the show, we (i.e. me and my friends) were all very disappointed that
The Boys did not play Presto, and Rick OB was also very unhappy about it;
he even made several comments on the air about it.  I had the impression
that he actually felt slighted over it since he and the station had
promoted the song and the show so strongly.  The station still plays Rush
(one of the few in the area that do, in fact) but they've never supported
them that strongly again.

So, after all this, you could say that the experience left an indelible
impression on me and I have not forgotten it since.

BTW, I suspect that the reason Rush has never played the song is because of
the very-difficult-to-reproduce switching between electric and acoustic
guitars in the song.  Even with The Omega Concern's funky acoustic guitar
stand, this song would be a bear to play live!  It would probably be much
easier to play now with the funky new electric/acoustic guitar that Alex
used on the TFE tour.  (Sorry, I forgot the name of it.)  So, maybe they'll
include it in the set on the next tour??!  We can only hope....

[lurker mode on]

 Helluva way to travel... scatter a man's molecules all over the universe!
   -- bones
 Helluva way to communicate... scatter a message's octets all over cyberspace!
   -- me


From: Martin Beaman 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:03:45 -0500
Subject: Re:  Jessica Henderson & Rush cds

>I personally think that Rush should come out with a new cd.  My dad 
>is always wanting to just get more of their music.  I have never heard 
>any radio station play Rush on the radio recently.  I guess they just 
>haven't had the time because of what's going on with Neil Peart and 
>his daughter.  I'm just thinking that rush should come out with more 
>cds for more people to appreciate their music more and I'm sure that 
>everybody that visits this site often, would definitely buy their new 
>cd-if there is another one.  This is my father's e-mail but I had to 
>post it after reading it.  If rush decides to come out with another cd 
>my dad will be the first person to buy it.  
>                                        Jessica Henderson


I couldn't agree more.  Nice post!!



From: James MacLachlan 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:38:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Closing Maple Leaf Gardens

Hey folks:

I have been reading about this "K.I.S.S." radio station saying that
Rush  will be playing Maple Leaf Gardens when it closes.

Well, there are a few things to remeber here first. I live in Toronto,
and KNOW that there is no "scheduled" date for the closing of Maple Leaf
Gardens. (I think Torontonians would know aboult this one!!)First off,
they STILL haven't chosen a new arena site. (They are currently building
a site for the Toronto Raptors basketball team, but STILL have not come
up with a location for a new arena for the Toronto Maple Leafs.) So,
there will be a new arena for the Tor. Maple Leafs, but that would be a
fair time down the road. Unless, this radio station knows something the
rest of T.O. doesn't, this doesn't sound like something that will happen
in the near future. 

If anybody else has accurate info, please post. 

James MacLachlan


From: "C.N. Ramirez" 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:07:55 -0400 (EDT)

the closest i've come to seeing rush live is on the 2 live videos. my
question is how much does the band chat with the audience? in exit stage
left geddy said hello and mentioned that they'd be doing stuff from a few
albums etc etc. and on the album, all the world's a stage, he screams at
the audience sometimes "i want to see all your hands!"  do they still do
this kind of stuff or do they just play their songs and prance about?

+ Ulric Reginald Simon Ramirez (1921-97). Rest In Peace, Daddy.         +
+ Yvonne Gayle Antoinette born December 30th, 1997, my daughter.	+
+                                                                       +
+ The Canadian Diabetic Association                  Christian Ramirez  +
+ 1-800-BANTING     Please give.                     Hamilton, Ontario  +


From: (Hang Lee)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:38:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: The presto debate

Once and for all, let's settled the debate: I know they didn't played that
song on the Presto tour esp. at Worcester centrum in May, 1990 (god, my
memory is good on Rush). It may have been mistaken as Presto, but the song
does not sound like presto. Also, another evidence of this: I had a bootleg
videoof the phillie show (lost it, Damn!!!) and i certainly did not see or
hear presto played live. In short they played five  tracks from that album
(the last LP released by the boys): Show don't tell, the pass, war paint,
scars, and superconductor, not much in terms of new material. It might hAve
been different around the country, so I'm not doubting. But since Rush is a
tight band with an unchanging setlist, I honestly don't think they did so.



From: Scott McDow 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:17:06 -0400
Subject: "never stand still"


I just had to say:

Craig'sVirtual Concert Hall just made available a
T4E title "Never Stand Still". Entire concert from
Albany, NY October 19th 1996, opening night.
I'm listening to Driven live for the first time since
the second leg.

remember: Ged gettin' all funky on the bass line,
then tossing in a 90 sec bass solo? It does rock!

Sound quality is about a 7 mainly for the audience
noise (which is pretty funny in it's own way!). I did
have to max the treble and back off on the bass
some to get the best sound but overall this title is
worth it. If you get winamp (freeware) you can get
all 23 songs. The Virtual Concert Hall will close
for the summer starting May 6th. So get it soon I
guess. I'm I no way connected to the VCH just a
user. Thanks Craig.

"there's no mistakes, just new parts!" -Geddy


OH- To Jessica Henderson who posted on her dad's
e-mail- I'm with you Jessica I would also like to see
more cd's by your dad's favorite band. You will have
to tell him that he has to get in line *behind* me
though. I'm sure he won't mind being the second
person do buy it! What a cool post that was by J-

gotta go


From: BRAVADO 69 
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:25:08 EDT
Subject: Anyone REALLY know what's going on with them?

This San Antonio radio station seems to swear that Rush will playing in
Toronto sometime later this year and that there may be a tour.  Obviously, all
evidence would seem contrary except that they are so adament about this and it
is part of a 6 show giveaway where the other 5 are legit (Van Halen,
Metallica, Pearl Jam...).

On all of this list, isn't there ANYONE who either is close to the band, or
knows someone close to the band who could give all of us the REAL STORY on
their plans?  

Rush's fans have been very loyal over the years to them and I don't think it
would be asking too much in return for them to come out with some kind of
statement as to their status and their plans over the next year or two so that
we don't have to keep speculating, spreading wild rumors, and be left in
suspense.  Is there anyone on this list that has access to the band and can
find out the real story once and for all?  I think we are all entitled to that
and I don't think the band should take their loyal fans for granted,
especially in this day and age where musical tastes change with the wind.


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