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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2023

                   Friday, 01 May 1998

Today's Topics:
           Re: The National Midnight Star #2112
                     E...SL ramblings
               On stage non-improvisations
     so you thought you might like to go to the show
                        Disco Rush
                     On issue # 2112
                    Twenty-one twelve
                    worship and improv
                   VH1 "My Generation"
                    Who'll play Alex?
                      Acoustic Rush
                    Retrospective III
              Cars and Rush-Driving to Rush
                     Alex Look-alike
                    Separated at birth
                Family Tree of Rush songs
                   Mysterious Impostors
             Progressive Rock and Improvosing
                     RUSH experiences
                   Scary Rush Sighting
                     Geddy Look-alike
                  Good RS concert review
     Re: 04/30/98 - The National Midnight Star #2022
                      cars and rush
              rush IS on a movie soundtrack.
        We are NOT alone...Echo heard down under.
                   Rush Bumper Stickers
               John Hannah and Nelly Peart
               Re: hi everyone (TNMS #2022)
                   Cold Fire Country!!
                 Alex actors, rush disco
         Using Rush-themed passwords (a bit long)
     RE: 04/30/98 - The National Midnight Star #2021
                     Re: Disco stuff 
                       Ticket Story
                 Neil and John Hannah II

From: Bex Elttil 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:37:23 EDT
Subject: Re: The National Midnight Star #2112

I would like to cast my vote along with Craig, who said, "I think you should
resend Issue 1 of the NMS. It would be nice to read some of the original posts
and see how different (or similar) they are. And it would make for a nice
'Retrospective' ".

I think that would be a great idea.


From: "Will Holt" 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:14:22 -0400
Subject: E...SL ramblings

I have solved it!  I know why Rush hasn't been as popular since E...SL!!!
It's because there are 13 tracks on that album.  I mean, how could they have
chosen such an unlucky number?!?  DOH!  (Just kidding of course.)

Speaking of E...SL, anyone else notice that little blip at 3:35 of LVS?  It
is even on the remastered version.  What is that?  Did they have to switch
master tapes or something?  It sounds kind of like a bad splice.  This album
still has my vote for best drum sound, though; especially since it is a live
album.  The sound of the snare, hi-hat and bass drums simply rules on this

What was the thinking behind the drum sound on ASoH?  Every other album has
the drums positioned as if you were sitting at the drum throne (fills from
left to right) or standing right in front of Neil (right to left).  On ASoH
the drums and cymbals are all over the place.  He will do a fill that goes
from right to left back to right and then back to the left for the cymbal
finish.  I thought maybe it was because it was in Surround Sound but this is
definitely not the case as a listen on my Pro-Logic receiver proved.  Maybe
it was done as if you were actually playing like they attempted on MP?  Or
my other thought was that he is placed sideways relative to your listening
position so that drums cymbals closest to the crowd are on the left and ones
further back are on the right.  That's got to be it.  It's seems to be
different on each song, though.  Oh, never mind...



From: "Wayne Tapia" 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:45:56 -0700
Subject: On stage non-improvisations

Happy hello's and warm salutations to all....
I just thought I'd drop in my 2 cents (3 cents Canadian) on the subject of
the apparent lack of stage spontaneity. I've had the "pleasure" of being in
the music biz since 1986 (hired gun guitar stuff), and have been exposed to
some stuff that the average listener (or concert attendee) rarely ever sees.
    I can understand why there can't be a lot of improv at a Rush concert,
due to the fact of the amount of choreography required between the lighting
guys, the sound guys, and the  band itself. If they did a "off the cuff"
setlist, I really doubt that the show would be anything like the spectacles
that we have all been privy to (I'm not saying that it would be a bad thing,
just not as polished). My perception of Rush as a live band, is that they
are striving to be PERFECT on stage, meaning extremley polished, very tight
and professional. Flying by the seat of your pants onstage, while very
exciting and fun, can possibly lead to DISASTER!!!! For example, maybe Ged
forgets the words in mid-song,or Alex starts into a solo break in the wrong
spot. I would hate to see that happen to them.
OK- I know that some of you may be steaming mad at the thought of "Rush
making a mistake". Please remember, they are human beings and they can make
boo-boos just like all of us.
All in all, I think they should just keep doing it the way they want to, and
for those who don't like it...stop going to multiple concerts. It's that


From: Fred Pinto 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 98 16:31:57 -0700
Subject: so you thought you might like to go to the show

chad werner wrote...
"for the record, I've found myself dozing at 
     more than one (rush) show"

chad, for the true fans, please, next time, don't go!  i mean, since 
you're the type of guy who can't be satisfied with those "uninspiring, 
embarrassing, robotic, just plain stupid" stage antics, you really ought 
to think about spending your time and money more wisely.  

and then you follow up your rush bashing by saying "i love rush & i 
always will".  don't be such a hypocrite.  loving rush involves 
supporting them, not blasting them for using the same stage antics.  
yeah, that danny guy laid into cmoney pretty hard, but at least he didn't 
slam the band this list is supposed to support.  your opinion is yours, 
but don't think we don't see you winking and crossing your fingers when 
you say that you "love rush" and you "always will".  on a hypocritical 
scale from 1-10 you get a 2112.

if you should die before me, ask if you can bring a friend.  -stp


From: "Antony Gelberg" 
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 00:34:15 +0100
Subject: Disco Rush

And so it was:

>> Ok, so we've all heard Rush to Country (Cold Fire), they've done Rap
>> (RTB).  It's only a matter of time before we hear, Disco Rush.

>Actually, it may have already happened.  On Neil's fairly-recent "A Work in
>Progress" videocassettes he describes his part in Virtuality during the "Let's
>dance tonight to a virtual song..." part as being a "four-on-the-floor"
>disco-type drum part.  Even though it is disco-approved it's one of my
>favorite parts on the album.

Hi all.  First post here.

Surely "Scars" counts as Disco Rush!!  I'm not a disco (or 80's) fan by any
means, but what a cracking tune!  (Off a _really_ cracking album with a
great atmosphere about it, but not lacking melody in any way)

I'm pleased that someone (on this list) recently pointed out the criminal
underrating of "Presto".  I like "Red Tide" a lot, and also "Available
Light".  In fact, I can't understand why so many here rate "HYF" so highly.
I really think "Presto" is a better constructed album, and more original.
But then, I guess with so much good material over the years, everyone's
going to have their faves!!!

BTW, food for thought:

Why were Rush one of the _very_ few bands who managed to go on producing
good music in the 1980's??  Most 80's stuff is formulaic and dull.

Well, must go, but must first say how great this list is!!  Especially here
in England, it's really not easy to find people who appreciate the genius of



From: Joe Morisseau 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:06:57 -0400
Subject: On issue # 2112
        Had to comment on the NMS 2112 issue. I'd also like to see, not so
much skipping the issue, but putting something other than posts up. The main
reason I say that is, I really don't want to see 5 or so issues of posts
like "Did I make it??" or stuff to that effect, just because someone has to
get a post in # 2112. Or really, that the Rush-Mgr would have to go through
and *weed* all those posts out....or get 100 times the normal amount of
posts from people looking to get in the issue.

        As for what to put in the issue, that's a good question. I think
someone mentioned posting a list of NMS subscribers in that issue. Or maybe
post a cool article not previously on NMS. I have an interview with Geddy
about the 20th anniversary of 2112 that might be cool reading for that
issue. Or Neil's letter to the editor grilling the guy about his article :)
Has that been on NMS?

        I guess it's a tough call as to that something special to do for
that particular issue ;)

                                It's now safe to turn off your computer...



From: (Kevin M. Corr)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:50:35 -0400
Subject: Twenty-one twelve

Here's another idea for TNMS #2112, which is comin' up fast...
everyone submits a "What RUSH means to me" post.  You know,
good and self-indulgent, the kind of thing that would make all
those uninitiated non-Rush-fanatics (poor bastards) sick to their
stomachs, but which the rest of us would truly enjoy.  Just
put "2112" as the subject, and our always diligent [ rush-mgr ]
could save 'em up, to be published in a very special, freakin'
huge edition of The National Midnight Star.  Ya think?  =)

/\/ e v i k

"Art as expression, not as market campaigns
 Will still capture our imaginations
 Given the same
 State of integrity
 It will surely help us along..." (why did they skip this verse in concert???)


From: (Daniel Beck)
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 21:22:59 +0900
Subject: worship and improv

Henri Serton responded to Russel J. Thorpe:

>> The next question is this:
>> Which author is it that Neil Peart (the
>> lyrical genius in Rush) worships?
>I don't think Neil worships anybody.

Good call. I think that Neil would shy away from even using the word
"worship" to describe anything he does.

>> Ayn Rand of course (also given credit
>> of sorts in the liner notes of 2112).

Neil (not to mention Alex and Geddy) has mentioned numerous times in
interviews that he no longer thinks of Ayn Rand being much of an influence.

Erik DePoy asked the following:

>        Why couldn't Rush devote a little time each night to improv?

Neil has said before that he thinks improvization during a show is weak
sauce. He was asked if he ever improvizes. As best I can remember the quote
was something like "Those who improvize (during a show) have never
practiced a day in their lives." So, I wouldn't count on it ever happening.


Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:23:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: VH1 "My Generation"

>      Three topics,
>      1.Rush Sighting
>      Was eating dinner yesterday and went into the living room where my 
>      daughter was watching a game show on VH1 called , My Generation, or 
>      something like that. At the end of the show where the contestants have 
>      to use two words to describe a band and the other person has to guess 
>      the band. Guess what band name was selected for the year 1978?? You 
>      got it RUSH. I was very disappointed in the contestant because she 
>      passed on it. 
>      I could think of a million words to describe the band? What 2 words 
>      would anyone out there in TNMS land come up with??

Here's a few:

 1. Neil Peart
 2. Geddy Lee
 3. Alex Lifeson
 4. Twenty-one twelve
 5. Tom Sawyer
 6. Kick-ass band
 7. Music gods
 8. Canada's best
 9. Working Man
10. Awesome trio

The list of two-word phrases could go on and on....but I won't...

Matt Terry


From: "John E. Heald" 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:39:06 -0800
Subject: Who'll play Alex?

I've got to go with the guy from "Full House", David Coulier. Not only
does he look like Alex, but he loves hockey and may be Canadian!



From: The Fantabulous George Reimers 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:24:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Acoustic Rush

RE: acoustic Rush
I know it's never gonna happen, BUT...
1. Xanadu (Those of you with steel-stringed guitars try it. It
actually works.)
2. Limbo (Believe it or not...)
3. TFE (not sure how they'd do the "Can't do the time?" part, tho)
4. Red Barchetta
5. Mystic Rhythms
6. Time Stand Still
7. Stick it Out (Just kidding)
8. Bravado
9. The Speed of Love
10. B/t Sun and Moon (could get interesting...)
11. New world Man
12. Half The World
13. Presto
14. Nobody's Hero
15. Making Memories
16. In the End
17. Totem
18. Resist
19. The Pass
20. Different Strings
21. Natural Science (Don't know how they'd do hyperspace)
22. The Body Electric (Or should I say, The Body Acoustic)
23. The Spirit of Radio
24. Closer To the heart
Just a few thoughts. If you have acoustic guitars, try some out. They
Another thought: a Rush concert featuring a full symphony orchestra
instead of synthesizers. Wouldn't that be fun?


"Now if I wasn't such a weenie do ya think ya'd still love me?" -The Offspring

The actions of men are the best interpreters of their thoughts.  - John Locke


Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:52:34 +0000
Subject: Retrospective III

Hey there-

I think the reason that there isn't a Retrospective III is because 
the Remasters and Retrospective albums were done by Mercury 
Records...any other songs that would show up on a "retrospective" 
album were recorded on Atlantic....



Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:52:34 +0000
Subject: Cars and Rush-Driving to Rush

Hey there-

Does anyone else have this problem?

I'm driving down the freeway, listening to Dreamline....goind 75 
M.P.H. one minute....and going 80-85 the next.  I'm a law-abiding 
driver...never speed anyother time.  It's just that song.....

Anyone else?



Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:52:34 +0000
Subject: Alex Look-alike

Hey everyone-

I'm not sure if I've suggested this before, but I think Kieffer 
Sutherland would make a great Alex.  There's a pic of big Al in 
Visions(Page 91, for those who have the book) that just reminds me of 
Sutherland...anyone agree?



From: UberMar 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:53:38 EDT
Subject: Separated at birth

>   [ Maybe I should put "separated at birth" on the nms page? *heh*
>                                                         : rush-mgr ]
Hmmm.  U were kidding right?   I love the idea.  How bout NMS subscribers who
resemble them?



From: "Katherine H. Moore" 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:57:07 -0600
Subject: Family Tree of Rush songs

> Has anyone else made the above mentioned association with No one at the 
> Bridge and Broon's Bane ? Agree/Disagree ?

Well, they're both in triple meter (12/8 & 6/8) and both make very
effective use of minor6 chords and their inversions. Pretty good
call...which brings us to:

I'd like to start (or maybe resurrect) a thread about the "family tree"
of Rush songs. As an example of what I mean, I see "The Trees" as the
direct descendant of "A Farewell to Kings". I'll bet everyone can see
the obvious musical parallels, but what convinced me before everything
else was the group of chords (mainly) used and the tonal center of the
song (I'd call it an A mixolydian in my personal and bastardized
theoretical parlance). So, the parent of "Kings" is...? The offspring of

I think we can make up the rules as we go along, but here are some clues
to types of resemblance:

Musical (endless permutations here)
Lyrical theme or style
Sound texture
Role within an album (i.e. "the ballad", "the rave-up", etc.)

I'm heavily biased in favor of the musician perspective, but I think
that ideas from non-musicians can offer fresh and interesting
perspectives that musicians might miss. So... c'mon, everybody! Anyone
with at least 2 Rush albums can join in on this one.

BTW, I think the rush-mgr (why do they call you The Holy Bitch, and do I
really want to find out? ;>  ) does a pretty good job of presenting a
good variety of Rush fan "types". I agree (although it was unspoken)
that it is the responsibility of contributors to keep criticisms
directed at content and not character. 

> Surely Abba were big fans of 1221?
> Dr Paul
Heh. Good one. But you know how obscure those cultists like to be, and
openly acknowledging the 2112 influence would have made them Baab (who
probably drives a Saab) :> Also - I'm sure you care :) - it was supposed
to be "MLB" (Major League Baseball).

Sean Carroll -


From: "Katherine H. Moore" 
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 00:06:23 -0600
Subject: Mysterious Impostors

Wouldn't it be funny if, say, Neil posted to the list? He'd be careful
to conceal (the fact that he's only too real, hehe) the fact of his
identity by not giving away inside information and by occasionally being
somewhat critical of (guess who?).

Funnier still if he actually brought up the aforementioned in his own
post! Who could possibly know? Oh, it gets so convoluted...

Sean Carroll -

P.S. Thinking for Neil again here, these posts could be sent by and from
some address not even remotely connectible with him. Don't even think
about the implications - it's mind-boggling. ;>


From: Poomoble 
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 00:07:46 EDT
Subject: Progressive Rock and Improvosing

First off,
       Geddy said on the radio, that RUSH gets its bizzare time signatures
from a Genesis song.
        Alex improvises everynite on the solo to Dreamline. Heck, on RTB tour
he was improvising solos in Dreamline, Bravado and Where's My Thing.  

"Better beer" NP


From: Poomoble 
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 00:30:18 EDT
Subject: RUSH experiences

> Any other stories out there on what some people had to do to get
> tickets for a Rush show?.....Love to hear a few.
> Bye for now..

Yeah, mine(ha).
It appeared I think two editions ago!
Somehow people thought that I paid 650 for front row at Jones Beach. It was
only 400(but I would have paid 650)
Since we are on the subject. I was holding a little sign that said" Can I have
a pic Alex, please?" He said no! At the end of the show, he gave away one to
some grade school age kid in the second row! :-(
Talk about paying the price, w/o counting the cost!
Actually, I didn't mind paying the money, because I always wanted to get front
row and I definetly got my money's worth. Heck, now I know the correct way to
play alot of the stuff we have on tab.
There is a second reason that I paid the money-
I'm sabbath observant. Translation, I can not buy my tickets on Saturday when
they go on sale,so I am screwed!
Hence my posting a few weeks ago to meet a jewish girl who likes RUSH.
By the way, Brett was right-
 -Scalpers are the scum of the Earth!!--

   [ I agree! How fun is it to get to your local TicketMaster, the one that
     maybe 3 rush fans know about, only to see 20+ homeless guys standing
     around a scalper getting their lottery numbers (and money of course)
     *sigh*                                                     : rush-mgr ]

"Better beer" NP


From: Ophelia313 
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 00:53:33 EDT
Subject: Scary Rush Sighting

This might scare some of you but I was just reading the Marilyn Manson
autobiography "The Long Hard Road Out of Hell" and among its twisted and
shocking pages was a picture of Marilyn in a Rush T-shirt.  I think it even
might have been 2112 but his hands were too in the way to say for sure.  He
looked about 15 or 16 in the picture.  He also mentions in the book how he
used to have sex with his girlfriend to none other than Moving Pictures.  You
just never know about some people do you.


From: Leah Slife 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:36:55 +0000
Subject: Geddy Look-alike

>He's not a walk-on, he's one of the minor characters.  The
>actor's name is Dean Haglund and he plays Langly, one of the
>Lone Gunmen on the X-Files.  I recently read a transcript of a
>Q&A session he did at an X-Files expo, where someone asked him
>if he realized he looked like Geddy Lee.  He laughed and said
>he gets that question all the time. :)

>Wow, Rush and the 2 favorite things in the same
>thread...I'm in heaven! ;)

 >  [ Maybe I should put "separated at birth" on the nms page? *heh*
                                                         : rush-mgr ]

I don't watch the X-Files enough, I guess....Anyone got a pic of this 
guy????  Send it to me....

   [ Oh I'm for sure now going to put that on the front page (his pic I mean)
     Gotta have some humor around here ;-)                     : rush-mgr ]



From: "James A. Hoebel" 
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 02:09:38 -0400 
Subject: Good RS concert review

	I found something surprising at Rolling Stone's online magazine.
Visit this page...

	And you will find a glowing review of a concert for the T4E tour.  I
was shocked to see Rolling Stone open up its mind!		jimi

   [ Interesting article. If you click on the "rush" link at the bottom, they
     have a few more Rush stories, including an interview with Neil himself!
     (from july of last year)                                      : rush-mgr ]


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 02:00:03 -0700
Subject: cars and rush

Picking up on the Volkswagen story and putting it together with what 
someone else said a while back about driving to Red Barchetta, you 
should try getting out on the motorway (freeway), putting on 
Countdown (loud, natch), waiting till near the end and then "really
 brewing out".  I only have a fourteen year old Ford Fiesta, but the
effect is still magnificent.

Yeah, but as I recall, you have a lot less smog gear on cars in Britain,
and higher octane gas.
Last time I visited, we tried that trick with Analog Kid and had the
bejeezus scared out of us when a jet jockey out of RAF Mildenhall took
his F-4 over us from behind at about 200 ft and 200
knots---RROOOOAAARR!!!! woosh!



From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 02:06:22 -0700
Subject: TICKETMASTUR(bate)

Brett Gentzel said:
 -Scalpers are the scum of the Earth!!--

I agree.  And Ticketbastard is the scummiest of the bunch--surcharge on
each ticket and a "transaction fee" to boot.  Neither of which is
refundable.  No different from a scalper, except that a good scalper is
honest about the price up front.

And mine gets me 5th row for 35 bucks.  Well, 50 with the new higher
ticket prices.  From $20 to $32 in 2 years (92-4)?  SUUURRRE operating
costs went up.



Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 03:31:31 EDT
Subject: rush IS on a movie soundtrack.

i work at a movie theater. and one of the kids i work with brought in a movie
to watch afterhours. the movie is called "whatever" and it takes place in the
80's and is about girls in highschool and parties, etc. well, there was this
scene where the two actresses were getting all gussied up for a party, and the
tension is building, and the next scene is at the party, "dudes" and "chicks"
everywhere, cameros, kegs, the whole 9 yards. (really cheezy!) but, as the
girls walk in, tom sawyer is cued really loud, and continues on for a good 45
seconeds. i almost had a heart attack, sitting in this huge theater, with _MY
BOYS_ playing over the sound system. they are even listed in the credits, so
its a full fledged "soundtrack song." try to rent it if possible, its actually
a decent movie. 

because it happens.
In Ged We Trust.


From: Stuart Hodgetts 
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 06:29:28
Subject: We are NOT alone...Echo heard down under.

G'day all,

Remember the feeling that you get when someone comments to you about the
Rush T shirt you are wearing???  Bear in mind that I know of only 3 or 4
Rush fans in Perth, Western Australia.....

My brother and I went to the last Van Halen show down under this week.  We
had not seen VH before, so there was only one real choice as to what T
shirt to wear.  We both wore our "HYF" tour T shirts that we got in
Birmingham at the NEC (ASOH concert).  We spent a long time in the bar
whilst the support were playing and as we entered, a sheila smiled and said
"Far out...a Rush T shirt...have'nt seen one of those in years!!".  Great,
I thought. At least there ARE other fans out there.  After the show, as we
were leaving, came a tap on the shoulder.  "Love your T shirt, man.  Great
band."  Two VH fans commented on how much they love Rush.  One was a fan
since CoS.  After a good chin-wag my brother and I left feeling pretty good
about the VH concert and the fact that we had encountered other Rush fans
in Australia.  After all...there ain't very many of us around down here!

On the train home, two cops were on board making sure there was no trouble.
 One of them came up and said what a great fan they were, and that they
didnt know any other people in Perth who liked Rush - most people not even
having heard of them.  We chatted to this cop for a while and found out
they had'nt heard anything after PW. I told them about the other 11 albums
and they freaked!!!!!

So a resounding echo heard down under, in one of the most isolated cities
of the world. 

BTW, Van Halen were absolutely great.  Even I left thinking that Eddie was
the greatest guitar player in the world (I should be strung up for saying
that...) Alex VH is a great drummer, and his solo was superb, but he would
have to Neil before God.  Gary Cherone does a great job too.

At least VH gave me a reason to take my Rush drive tape out of the car...

Billy Oz...out.


From: "Ed" 
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 03:59:04 +0000
Subject: Rush Bumper Stickers

Did anyone ever see those bumper stickers in the early 90's that said 
"Rush is a band"?  I used to see them now and again in the Seattle 
area when Rush Limbaugh bumper stickers were the big thing.  I have 
always wanted one but never could find one.  Does anyone know where 
to get them?  Please send a private email, thanks.

For anyone living in the Seattle area, there is a cool store downtown 
by the Seattle Center called "Rock Memories" that sells a crap load 
of Rush realated stuff (among many other bands) in excelent 
condition.  I bought a few Rush concert posters there. 



Date:          Fri, 1 May 1998 12:30:20 GMT0BST
Subject: unplugged

Actually, I think Scott's idea of Rush unplugged is very cool.  I'll 
have you know that a friend and I used to do a very mean acoustic 
2112, myself on bass, him crashing between six- and twelve-string, 
 though it kind of lost its meaning with all the guitar parts 
being acoustic, as you can imagine.  We also used to do Analog Kid, 
though he could not do the fingering on the up and down scale 
section, so we just hit the rhythm chords, and sang diddle diddle 
diddle - well, what's his face on Working Man couldn't play it either.  
I think most of Presto works acoustically, doesn't it?


Date:          Fri, 1 May 1998 12:36:08 GMT0BST
Subject: John Hannah and Nelly Peart

Leah Slife says John Hannah is either British or from somewhere in 
the UK - that covers most of us over here.  But seriously, since 4 
Weddings, he has done a lot of TV over here, as a police pathologist 
in one series for example.  I think his head is a little too round 
for Neil, but I have no alternatives as yet.  Absolutely concur to 
the X-Files man and Geddy.  I also knew a girl at University when I 
was an undergrad who was a ringer - I think it was the hair.


From: (David Whiteman)
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 08:17:58 -0400
Subject: Re: hi everyone (TNMS #2022)

Stacey wrote:

> Now I own
> 2112, A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures,
> Exit..Stage Left, and Test for Echo.  I think they are all great and was
> wondering what I should buy next.

Signals, Power Windows, or Counterparts.
David Whiteman                          Applied Reasoning
The Fifth Beatle                        111 Corning Road, Suite 220
whiteman at        Cary, NC 27511-9231


From: Suze Jackson-Lequire 
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 05:53:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Lifeson/Shatner??

>> So now that we have Neil and Geddy cast (didn't someone recently say that a
>> walk-on character on the X-Files resembles Geddy?), anybody know who can
>> play Big Al?
>Bill Shatner.  See the uncanny (particularly in
>the eyes) resemblance at:

Holy seeing double, Batman!  I thought someone had taken a younger
facial photo of Shatner and stuck it on the body shot.  But that *is*
Alex!  He doesn't look to damn happy about something, does he?

Seeing this makes me realize that most of my Rush wallpaper photos
must be pretty old.  In most of 'em, Alex (and Ged, come to think of
it) has long hair!  Can anyone point me to a site with newer photos
that are sized to be wallpaper?

Suze Jackson-Lequire

"Insanity runs in my family.  Practically gallops in it."
 -Cary Grant to Priscilla Lane, 'Arsenic & Old Lace', 1944


From: Thomas Braksator 
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 09:18:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Cold Fire Country!!

>From: Eric Hansen 
>Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:23:16 -0600
>Subject: Cold Fire is Country???

> Ok, so we've all heard Rush to Country (Cold Fire)

>What????  If country music sounded like Cold Fire, I'd become a fan!

On the Counterparts tour Geddy (I believe) says

"shows a new direction for our band.   Country Music as you know it.
Good old fashion country song called Cold Fire."

That may not be the exact quote but it is close.  It comes from the boot
Critic Mass by Prism Records.

p.s.  Mike Bahr where are you?  I've sent you a few emails and have not
received a reply.  Thanks to you and the rush-mgr.

    Tom Braksator
    Home: (610) 918-2434
    Day:  (610) 219-5884


From: "Wilson, Daniel" 
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 09:16:46 -0400 
Subject: Alex actors, rush disco

Whoever daid Jeff Daniels for're right on, I agree definitely

As Could Fire sounding I have to REALLY strain to hear
that connection, but for Disco Rush, I always thought The Weapon could
be played with a big mirror ball over my head

Danny Wilson


From: Suze Jackson-Lequire 
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 06:20:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Using Rush-themed passwords (a bit long)

I'm the IS person for a large manufacturing company, and go to
people's desks to check on their computers.  Yesterday I got a report
of a dead hard drive, and what do I find when I walk into the guy's
cube?  A small RTB button hooked into the fiber wall!  After I got
done giving him the bad news (he needed a new hard drive), I asked him
about the button.  Ah yes, we are kindred spirits--he's managed to hit
every Rush concert in the metro Detroit area since '80 or so.

Chatting happily about Rush, we walked back to my office, where I
deposited his computer.  When I went to deactivate my screensaver, he
saw me type " **** " and instantly said, "Is that 2112 or RUSH?"

Well, so much for my secret passwords!  I had to change *all* of them
as every one was Rush-related.  Being the SysAdmin, I was able to go
in and look at his passwords for the system--RUSH, 2112, BYTOR,
ROLLTHEBONES, etc.  I warned him to change them immediately, as I had.  

And here I thought I was the ONLY one in the world who *used* to use
the 4-digit requirement-matching "2112" for my ATM PIN and voicemail

The moral of the story, boys & girls?  If there's another Rush fan in
the same area where you need to have secure passwords, change 'em!  If
this guy hadn't mentioned that he'd figured mine out, he could have
jumped into the entire network admin areas with unlimited access. 
Considering HE wrecked his hard drive, isn't that a scary thought?

But we traded some GREAT pictures! :-)

Suze Jackson-Lequire

"Insanity runs in my family.  Practically gallops in it."
 -Cary Grant to Priscilla Lane, 'Arsenic & Old Lace', 1944


From: "Wilson, Daniel" 
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 09:23:21 -0400 
Subject: RE: 04/30/98 - The National Midnight Star #2021

i'm asking everyone to please realize that there are more than one
"Danny"s on this group, and I'm not the one who has been blasting C
Money's concert opinions, thank you....the hate mail can stop now

Danny "WILSON"


From: James Gibbon 
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 10:18:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Disco stuff 

>>>>>  "nancy salmon" writes:
> Hi guys and gals!
> In response to the 'disco' thread, it's been done!  Well, somewhat.  
> Read the Signals tourbook.  And I quote:  "With all this and more to 
> accomplish with my hands, it is no compromise to let my bass drum foot 
> play a steady 'four', which is also something I never thought I could 
> do.  This also brings the feel of the song perilously close to a 
> (shudder) d-d-d-dance song, like, you know, disco!  Treason!  Kill the 
> traitors!  They wrote a song you can dance to!  Will you ever forgive 
> us?  (No.)"

In 1978, Geddy stated that he was contemplating making a disco solo
album, in an interview with Melody Maker.



From: Flame 
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 09:35:18 -0500
Subject: Ticket Story

Here is my little Ticketmaster story....

I used to live down Corpus Christi, Texas during the Presto tour.  I was
trying to get tickets to the Houston show.  They went on sale on Saturday
morning at 10am.  I was there at 1 am.  To my to a local
Alan Jackson concert went on sale the same time as my Rush tickets.  I was
not first in line, I was maybe 20th.  The store did get going on selling
tickets until maybe 10:30 am.  I was pissed.  I had to wait behind all
these kickers (no offense) for my tickets.  I HAD to listen to country
music all night long...when I finally made it up to the ticket counter I
found out I was the first Rush fan that morning.  I ended up with very
upper prom tickets.  I was veeerrrryyyy upset.  I did get my tickets
though.  To this day....I still can not stand to here an Alan Jackson song.  


Date:          Fri, 1 May 1998 15:50:32 GMT0BST
Subject: Neil and John Hannah II

With regard to the actors playing Rush thread, John Hannah plays 
opposite Gwyneth Paltrow in Sliding Doors.


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