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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2042

                 Wednesday, 27 May 1998

Today's Topics:
                 Stupid Radio Announcers
                    Deep Rush Thoughts
                  an itty bitty sighting
                      Time & Motion
        re: 2 words, 2112, M. Gibbs, and M. Denney
                      couple things
                   Alex sounds like Ged
                  Re: Morning ??? #2040
                  Re: issue #2112 #2040
                       Re: chorus 
                        Rush Limbo
                       Re: Toastado
         Cygnus Explosion Distortion Cleaned Up?
                      Re: out-takes
                      Re: Morning???
                      Kids and Rush
                 Rush are just freat guys
                   Performing old songs
                  Rush and David Spade..
                     Re: Song lyrics
                      2 live titles
                        Rush Lyric
                        Issue 2112
                Radid Play... (NMS #2041)
                   Re: More tee anyone?
                  aimee mann/super mann
                       david spade
                      kids and rush
                       Rush Dreams
                     Rush beats Yes!
                       Howard Stern
                       Kids & Rush 
    Guest vocalist, Aimee Man, KAZOO! Superfluous post
                     Re: Rush & Radio

From: Ryan Park 
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:15:56 -0400
Subject: Stupid Radio Announcers

Hello y'all...

On the radio this weekend, one of our local stations is doing a "Top 500
Classic Rock" countdown -- in alphabetical order (strange).  This station
plays hardly no Rush, but I caught "The Spirit of Radio" this morning and
"Tom Sawyer" this afternoon.  Well, after Tom Sawyer, the announcer came on
the radio and basically said the following (paraphrased):

"That was 'Tom Sawyer' by Rush.  Rush features Neil Peart, who's probably
the best drummer in all of rock music [cool!], and he writes their lyrics
too.  Well, he came down with a form of cancer, but he's doing better now..."

D'oh.  It's sad that *radio announcers* carry on rumors such as this... so
let's all pray for Neil and hope he can make it through his chemo, or
something like that .



From: Ryan Park 
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:15:52 -0400
Subject: Deep Rush Thoughts

I bet there's a plastic surgeon in Toronto who's laughing his head off
every time he remembers the Yiddish kid with the funny name who actually
believed that crap he told him about "the bigger your nose is, the better
you'll sing".
 -- David Malan

So there I was, surrounded by thousands of screaming Rush fans, wondering
to myself when this loud rock band would lave the stage so I can hear what
he has to say about Newt Gingrich.
 -- Ruth Goodman

I fell sorry for the poor girl in the "Time Stands Still" video. She was
trying so hard to film the boys and they just wouldn't let her. When she
showed her boss the tape, she probably got fired. It probably ruined her
 -- Donald Dintaman

Think these are funny?  There's a whole collection of Saturday Night
Live-style "Deep Rush Thoughts" online at -- check it out!  They were
compiled about two years ago from posts here on The National Midnight Star.
 It's been about 2 years, so I'm guessing most of you weren't around back
then.  Let me know what you think, and if you've got any new submissions,
send 'em here or let me know!



From: Brooke YOOL 
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:33:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: an itty bitty sighting

A wee lil' Rush sighting for ye!

WHile working (? kind of) this Memorial Day...  I surfed onto the CNN web
site, and eventually got to a message board asking the question, "what do
you like to read while on vacation?"  When what did I see before my very
eyes...  someone mentioned the Masked Rider!  "Peart's prose is as
eloquent, clever, and inspiring as are his lyrics, and his world view is a
breath of fresh air.  I can't wait for his next one...?"  

G. Gerig, if you're out there...  THANKS for yet another attempt to
enlighten the world.  I was pleasantly surprised!

brooke in san fran

Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

Brooke Yool
Dept of Pharmaceutical Chemistry		Rock and Roll Marathon,
University of California, Box 0446		Sandy Eggo 6/21/98
San Francisco, CA 94143-0446			Hood to Coast Relay,
Phone 415-502-8229  Fax 415-476-0688		Oregon 8/28-29/98			TCM *or* Portland 'thon 10/4	


From: The Mystic S 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 00:49:29 -0400
Subject: Time & Motion

I have recently discovered that time & motion is one of my favorite
songs.  In the interest of picking the minds of those that subscribe,
I'd like to get feedback on specific parts of the song.

Time & Motion Topic of the Day:

       Superman in Supernature
       Needs all the comfort he can find

Please tell me- what's your interpretation of this verse??



From: Rvndl 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:49:47 EDT
Subject: re: 2 words, 2112, M. Gibbs, and M. Denney

This is in reference to a thread asking to describe Rush in 2 words.  Even
many, many, many words will never describe Rush, but with thanks to Martin
Gibbs' 4/24 posting (Emotional Rush), I think we all (IMHO) can use these 2
words he said to describe our feelings of Rush.

       "Baptize Me!"

We'll have one big *** concert, (it'll have to be months long, the boyz will
be very tired) and one by one we can all climb Jacob's Ladder (metaphorically
of course) to study the Natural Sciences during our Lessons of the way Neil's
world has taught us it should be.  He is a wonder, ain't he?  If you want to
put words to it, go ahead,  but for me they're just this feeling that's always
with you, always making you think, always picking you up when you need it, or
letting you feel it's ok when you're not, and always making you just f###'g
smile real big!!    CRANK IT UP!!  (way up, if you want to)  Excellent insight
and excellent jams!!  There are never just 2 words for these guys to me except
as I  have noted.  Mr. Martin (don't want to be too formal, but he does
deserve a title after what he wrote so eloquently! Yes, I know it was a long
time ago as postings go, but it was excellent!)(imho) Anyway, Mr. Martin could
not have said it better.  

I  have been a fan since '77 and 2112 was quite an eyeopener for me as a
Here's to that thread of "where were u when..." with 2112!  I think I was 15.
(go ahead, figure out my age) :"Who is this band?"  "God, are they good!", and
"This is a really cool f###'g story!" were all some of my first responses.  My
dad's however were quite the opposite after reading the album jacket, and I
quote: "That's it!  #### society, kill yourself, and smoke pot!  Is this what
this world's coming to?!!"  And with that said, the album went flying across
the room, crashing, unharmed (thankfully), into the wall. (Sigh-he'll just
never understand.)  Those were the days, eh?  And as "Driven's" lyrics now
voice on the cd player..."the road unwinds before me, and I go riding
on..."...thru Rush's continual words, worlds, energy, insight and
long as I am..."I see the work of gifted hands, grace this strange and
wondrous land..."  Geddy's voice is "home"...wherever that may be or is...and
Neil's work is (to quote another great artist) "a sensation". No Alex flaming
here please, I don't mean to leave him out of this.  ((Hey, on YYZ does any
one else picture them running thru the airport (like they have to) on certain
sections of it?)) There's my tribute to Alex: a thread:  the pictures he draws
in your mind with his chords and riffs related to the song topic. Yes, No?
(Can't you just see the characters fighting in By-Tor?)  Or was this done

As for the #2112 issue, I sure do hope the band will provide the content for
the issue, it just wouldn't be right any other way.  It should be a tribute
(personal letter) to the fans from their hearts and minds because that is
where they live in us, imho, "with the heart and mind united in a single,
perfect sphere."
Otherwise, my vote is for a blank page... just hold our own jam sessions in
our own way.  

"Peace of mind and sanctuary by loud waters flow..." Peart
"Quickly fading into the stones and the shadows (that's me now) the grey-
cloaked people of Lorien rode towards the mountains, and those who were going
to Rivendell sat on the hill and watched, until there came out of the
gathering mist a flash..."  Tolkien   (he musta been talking about the boyz
there!)  ;)


P.S.  Here's to Mike Denney's post that had me rotflmao!!!! Side splitting
entry there, dude!!  He wrote:
"That's it!  I was trying to think of a way to represent the trio in web-ese, 
and thought of this:
:-{ -- Neil during 'Fly By Night' days, including mustache...
:-0 -- Geddy--mouth open and singing...
:-) -- Alex, just plain happy freewheeling through La Villa Strangiato...
Tell me if this is even STUPIDER than my last posting--you'll learn I'm a 
halfwit and 1/2
(okay--cut out the snickering and open-mouthed stares)""

Still chuckling...


From: Mark Lancisi 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:54:07 -0400
Subject: couple things

This is very kool...

I have been a Rush fan since 1980.. Seen them 19 times from GUP on, own
all their records, yadda yadda yadda....

What is kool is that today, for the first time ever, I noticed, in the
Dalmations back spots from the Signals cover, the word Rush.. Its a
negative image and is clear as day...

I'm sure this has been talked about before and is really nothing more
that a kool tidbit.. Its just very kool  to be a fan for so long and not
catch something like that. That happens with their music sometimes
too... After hearing a tune hundreds of times, you happen to hear
something totally new that has been buried  in the mix  to your ears all
these years, if even only one chord, or note or fill.....  This is one
of the marks a truly great band, IMO. 

One other thing.. I recently was given a copy of an album that I was
very reluctant to listen too, but was blown away by when I finally did.
The album is the debut self titled album by the band Ambrosia.. YES
Ambrosia.. That Air Supply-like cheesy love song band...  Well let me
tell you, their first album is anything but cheesy..  Its heavily
Yes-like, with undertones of the Beatles, Rush, Steely Dan and Billy
Joel all thrown in there, and quite progressive.. Don't be turned off by
the name.. Definitely check it out! Especially if you like Yes!

Farewell to Kings..



From: (Jack Mevorah)
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:13:50 -0400
Subject: Alex sounds like Ged

>>>I think it's a triggered "effect" although
>>>King Lerxst mouths it in concert. Who
>>>triggers it? Anybody?
>>> -me

>>No, Lerxt says it... he doesn't sing it...
>>He did the same thing on this tour as well...:)

>It's possible I got my facts mixed up (happens
>more often than I care to admit!) Any trigger
>experts out there to back me up? If not then
>just stick me in the corrner with a dunce cap
>on my head.   <:^)>

I watched Alex pretty closely during the last few tours
because his voice was getting better and sounding more
and more like Geds.  He appears to be 'triggering' the
vocal part with his Midi Pedals ... probably a sample
of Geds voice.  Mind you this is merely speculation,
but the timing was too perfect and there was no other
sound made apparent at the step of his foot.

And before anyone says it ... yes, he 'said' Subdivisions,
in his own voice, during the Signals tour.  Which could
explain why he now samples Geds voice.  :-)



From: "Kevin L. Kitchens" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:27:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Morning ??? #2040

Are you absolutely sure on this?

"Take Off!" was one of the reasons I started listening to Rush, and 
that didn't happen until late 1983, early 1984 (My senior year).  I 
was a long time Bob and Doug fan (from SCTV), so I sure that 
album didn't come out until 83 or 84.

> From: "David Lombardo" 
> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:01:09 -0500
> Subject: Morning ???
> Just a The Camera Eye, is it possible that Geddy said
> "morning Doug" as in Bob & Doug McKenzie?  The reason I ask is that both
> Great White North & Moving Pictures came out the exact same year, 1981.
> They could have recorded both at the same recording studio & the guy who
> plays "Doug" (don't know if it was Moranis or the other guy) came in &
> said "Hello" & as a joke Geddy responded "Morning Doug".  I'm not saying
> it doesn't sound like Gov or Guv but who (or what) is a Gov/Guv?  Not
> flaming anyone who hears Gov/Guv, cuz I'm not even sure when I hear
> it...Geddy is somewhat away from the mike and what is said is difficult to
> discern...hence my curiosity within the context of the timeframe of the
> two albums. Any thoughts or clues................
> david :-) 

Kevin L. Kitchens, PEI Programming, Stone Mountain, Georgia
PEI Programming:         
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From: "Kevin L. Kitchens" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:33:37 -0500
Subject: Re: issue #2112 #2040

> you know, i think rush-mgr already has decided what to do for issue 2112
> and is planning it now.... thus i won't give any suggestions because i'm
> sure he knows what he's doing already. i hope its good!
> now, what will happen for issue 2113? a big let down probably.... maybe
> EVERY issue after 2112 should be special in some way or another :-)

Perhaps 2113 should be called 2112+1, then 2112+2, 2112+3. :)

Or just Volume II, Issue 1 :)

Kevin L. Kitchens, PEI Programming, Stone Mountain, Georgia
PEI Programming:         
The BEST Installer: WISE   -Info: 
The BEST Grid: SpreadOCX   -Info:


From: Slim Jim 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 19:54:21 +0100
Subject: Re: chorus 

>>>>>  "Michael Z. Williamson" writes:
> >> Slim Jim said:

> >>Alex makes extensive use of chorus effects on the first album, which
> >>wasn't recorded at Le Studio if I remember rightly - so I don't think
> >>we can credit the late great Jaco Pastorius with this.
> No, he used overdubs.  Chorusing is an electronic effect that was
> invented in the mid-seventies.  Alex reports in various interviews that
> he started using chorus in '77.  I'll look for the article.  There's
> also his comment on Counterparts about "Ending my horrible 15 year
> dependency on Chorus."

To be pedantic he used a flanger on the first album - certainly not
overdubs - to achieve the effect as evident on (eg) In the Mood.



From: KingLerxst 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 16:01:45 -0400
Subject: Rush Limbo

> In all truth, Rush(the guy) has lost a lot of weight (see an episode of
> Drew Carey this last season)  Since he, at one time, was a rock and roll
> DJ in the 70's, I'll bet he is, or at least was, a fan of the band, for
> perhaps as simple a reason as they share the same name. That is his real
> name, BTW... Cheers from New Mexico.. Dan

>>Quite true...he has lost a (figurative) ton.

>>Whoever does his bumper music must be a fan, because I am pretty sure >>I've 
>>heard some Rush on Rush before.  Nearly fell off my chair at the >>irony.


Sorry Rush-mgr(for the mild political content..but this must be
straigtened out for once and all!!), but if anybody thinks that the guys
in Rush actually want anything to do with Limbaugh, and finally realize
the guys actually think he is a big goof, check out Alex's oppinion of
him on the T4E album premiere!!

"If at first you don't succeed, it's probably someone else's fault.:-P"

A "stolen" quote.:))


Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Toastado

It warms my heart and brings a smile to my face to see the Breadman back in 



From: Nick Bruels 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:17:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Cygnus Explosion Distortion Cleaned Up?

I've always disliked how the explosion at the end of the
Prologue distorts at anything above very modest volume
levels, even on relatively good quality sound gear.  I've
not yet invested in the remastered AFTK disc, anyone got
an opinion as to whether this particular issue has been
improved?  Very cool sound effects though, BTW!




From: Eric Gumtow 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 15:26:01 -0500
Subject: Re: out-takes

>1-I notice in 'Freewill' that Geddy says "if you choose
>not to decide you still have made a choice" but the
>lyric sheet inside the album clearly say "you cannot
>have made a choice".  Did the band do some inter-
>views or something that influenced them to change
>the song at some point?

Geddy was asked this question on a radio show some years back.  He
responded that he was very careful to sing the correct lyrics and did
not sing them incorrectly.  He stressed the part about being careful
to sing the correct lyrics.  So does Geddy know what lyrics are on
Permanent Waves?  Of course he does.  He probably sang them a hundered
times in the recording studio.  IMHO, he changed the lyrics to make
a point about the song Freewill.  Free will (the concept) deals with
us having the power to change our destiny, if their is destiny.  Free-
will's (the song) destiny is written on the lyric sheet.  But Geddy
changes its destiny.  I realize this is a major stretch, but it fits
and it's a good explanation.

Now for a tougher question: on PeW, the first song is The Spirit Of
Radio.  On ESL, the first song is Spirit Of Radio (no The).  Which is
the correct title?

Eric Gumtow


From: "Joseph Ornelas" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:37:57 -0700
Subject: Re: Morning???

>From: "David Lombardo" 
>Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:01:09 -0500
>Subject: Morning ???
>Just a The Camera Eye, is it possible that Geddy said
>"morning Doug" as in Bob & Doug McKenzie?.... I'm not saying it
>doesn't sound like Gov or Guv but who (or what) is a Gov/Guv?

Gov (or guv) is short for Governer, which I believe would be the British
equivalant of a very formal "Sir."  Whatever it's used for, it definitely is not

In CD player:
Rush - 2112

(that's all.  It only fits one disc)

Joseph Ornelas

"Get your facts first, and then
you can distort them as much
as you please"    - Mark Twain


From: "Michael Reeves" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 16:00:26 -0500
Subject: Kids and Rush

Kathy Jones wrote:

>My 10 year old son has apparantly caught the RUSH bug. I always knew he was a
>spectacular child!  Of course I am thrilled (we conspire against the rest of 
>the family by slipping RUSH cd's into the player).  Unfortunately though, this
>means I have to occassionally retrieve a stack of cd's from his room.
>Anyone else have kids who like THE BAND?  I'm curious to know which cd's/songs
>kids like.  My son's favorite cd and song is PRESTO/Presto.  He also likes
>Half the World and Time Stands Still. Like I said, he is a spectacular child.

My 7 year old son listens to his CD player every night as he goes to sleep.
The current CD he plays is Grace Under Pressure.  His favorite song is
probably The Body Electric (he dances around singing "one zero zero...).
Before that, he used to listen to Moving Pictures. Red Barchetta was his
favorite on that one. He even saw a model of a Ferrari Barchetta at some
store and had to point it out to me..."Look, dad, just like on Moving's a Red Barchetta."

Michael Reeves


From: "J.Scott Leggitt" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 16:56:33 -0500
Subject: Rush are just freat guys

I,'ve listening to Rush for some 23 or so years and have loved there
music since I first heard them.  And that was during the 2112 tour in I
think 1977  See I won a back stage pass to the two day show in San
Anotnio, Tx. where I lived at the time.  I can't begin to tell you how
thrilled I was. Before the show I got a chance to meet the guys and they
were great!!! Alex even spent a few minutes showing me how to play a few
licks "Something for Nothing" and They were more than happy to answer
any question that I ask.  Beside being the best musicians I've ever
heard they are just fantastic people!!!


From: (mconsani)
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 18:11:53 -0400
Subject: Performing old songs

     Hi fellow Rush-heads:
     I've been a dedicated fan since 1980.  I've collected all the 
     remasters, some videocassettes and some boots.
     Last Friday night, my wife and I saw Van Halen at Madison Sq. Garden 
     in New York City.  We were amazed at how many "old songs" they played. 
     The thirty-something audience was on their feet for practically the 
     entire show.  
     On the way home on the No. 1 subway we wondered what it would be like 
     to hear By-Tor and the Snowdog, Bastille Day, or Passage to Bangkok 
     one more time again.
     Although we respect Neil, Alex and Geddy's musical preferences or 
     taste in deciding which songs to play, we can't help wanting to hear 
     the songs that got us hooked into Rush in the first place.
     Mark "the Librarian" Consani and his wife Kristin 


From: "Daniel Ware" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 16:21:27 -0600
Subject: Rush and David Spade..

Hey gang..
I'm in a pissy mood today, so watch out......
I'm glad Rush gets a little exposure now and then from the TV, ie: game show
answers, etc.. I'm even glad David Spade mentioned them in his act. It does
bother me, however, that no matter how long has passed since Rush could be
conceivably identified with the long haired idiot, pot smoking crowd,
they're always remembered for that, not their excellent current sound..I'm
sure the band gets a little miffed when they hear stuff like that. Their
music goes way beyond some idiots passing the pipe around at a show. The
only good thing the smoke was for was making the lasers look cool.. Uh oh,
Tornado warning for my city.. Better shut down.. If you don't hear from me
again.. Send me your prayers...
Cheers from tornado alley, NM


Date: Tue, 26 May 98 15:23:52 -0800
Subject: Re: Song lyrics

StevieD2 wrote:  I will probably get some flames for this, but whats up with
of you who submit posts and then at the end feel a need to quote some Rush
lyrics?  We all know the words to the songs! No need to add them to the posts!

Although I basically never post, let me be the first to flame.  I read the NMS
at my desk at work, where I unfortunately do not listen to music.  When people
put lyrics at the end of a post, it brings up a random Rush song in my head,
maybe even one I haven't listened to in quite a while.  Sometimes it even drives
me to go home that night and break out whatever album it is I was listening to
in my head at work because of the post.  A while back, there was a string about
"chills," well sometimes Rush lyrics at the end of a post will give me "chills"
and, regardless, definitely add to my day.  So I say...keep on writing them!!!  
And for those of you who don't like them...don't read them.


"The focus is sharp in the city"


From: "Costello, Bryan" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 19:54:54 -0400
Subject: 2 live titles

Hey  Y'all!

Just a note to pass on. I picked up 2 live cd's from an individual
selling them on the net. They were both killer!

The 1st is a triple disc, complete show from the Camden, New Jersey stop
on the second leg of the T4E tour....June of 1997. This is by far the
best quality disc I have yet to hear from that tour... 1st or 2nd leg.
It is from an Audience DAT, and it truly captures the spirit of the
evening, it is all there!. The package is just as awesome. It has a
color cover, and instead of numbering the discs 1, 2 & 3...there  are
pix of our 3 faves on each disc. If you see it listed, I highly
recommend it! It is just called "Camden, NJ".

The other disc is a double Dream Theatre from their Atlanta show in Dec.
1997. It is two discs, complete show, audience DAT from the Masquerade
ballroom in Atlanta, GA. The sound is awesome & as with the Rush is all there! It has a color cover & nice color discs as well,
another top notch production. I also highly recommend this as well. It
is simply titled "Atlanta 12/97".

In this day & age, it is very easy to get burned by crappy boots, but
for the record, these two are awesome! Get these titles!!!

yours in allegiance,

(giant Sandman mark)

I am always looking for other good titles, anyone no where I can turn
for some fresh Metallica?


From: "Shawn Quirk" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 17:09:53 PDT
Subject: boston

Talking about wounderful rush experiences, mine was seeing them in 
boston, nov. '96.
            My very first rush experience was with my cousin introducing 
me to 2112. I had just started playing drums, and i was about 11 or 12 
yrs. old. Now although i can't say Neil introduced me to drums, he DID 
introduce me to percussion MUSICALLY, instead of notes on a page, 
showing just what could be done on the instrament. Ever seince then, i 
have been listening to rush nonstop. I still get into other bands, but 
none could replace rush. When i got to see them, i went with my same 
cousin and our friend. On our way into the Fleetcenter, we ran into a 
roadie, or someone with a setlist. When we saw "2112," we freaked out. 
When that song started, I had to pinch myself to make sure i wasn't 
dreaming, and during neil's solo, i actually had goosebumps. In fact, 
just thinking about it is starting to bring them back. After the 
concert, i thought " If anything happens to me on the way home, it's 
     That's my rush experience, how about yours, everyone?


Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 18:19:47 +0000
Subject: Rush Lyric

Hey there, Hi there, Ho there!!

>"Courageous convictions will drag our dreams into existence"--The Camera Eye

No, no, no.....Vital Signs.  Don't believe me?  Look in yer CD 
book.  I know all post-Rutsy Rush lyrics by memory, so I was a little 
taken aback when I read this.  I'm not being insulting or 
condecending, just helping  :-)


"Those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves"


From: KMKeller 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:03:05 EDT
Subject: Issue 2112

I think that Issue #2112 should be about....

We should share our experiences and opinions of the album - when you heard it
first, what's your favorite song? etc.



From: UNC Cary 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:01:24 EDT
Subject: Radid Play... (NMS #2041)

    Somebody said they hear Tom Sawyer and TSOR the most on the radio.
    Charlotte's WRFX (John Boy and Billy's Flagship station) is pretty
consistent about playing TS and TSOR on alternate days.
    WRDU Raleigh plays Limelight to death; If i put on that station at school,
I will hear Limelight.  Even heard the live version from one of the video
soundtracks once (or possibly a boot).  But I've never heard them play Tom



From: "Miguel Farah F." 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:43:54 -0400 (CLT)
Subject: Re: More tee anyone?

>From: Neil Bonfield 
>Date: 21 May 1998 11:18:25 -0400
>Subject: More tee anyone?
>Hey rush-mgr, whatever happened to the NMS t-shirts? I paid my money and
>made my choice, but no tee ever showed. This was several months ago, ie.
>mid 1997. I know there were some problems with printing etc, but an
>update would be good...
>   [ Checks should have been cashed only for those people who got sent shirts.
>     There is no update; I haven't had time to find a new t-shirt printing
>     place, go down and have new ones made. I also don't have enough money
>     to pay for it at the moment (usually you have to order 100 shirts in the
>     first batch, with designing the new shirts it'll come out to like $10-12
>     per shirt). I don't have a spare $1000 laying around to afford it...
>                                                                : rush-mgr ]

Well, why don't we make advance orders? At least *I* trust rush-mgr
enough to send her a check for a t-shirt.

Oh, and I want the GOOD OLD shirt design. I think it ruled way back in
1993 when I bought my original TNMS t-shirt, and still rules.

   [ Glad you like it, I designed it on my old (ancient now) mac IIci, 
     hard drive of 212mb :-)  I just don't know if we can get enough advance
     orders to fill the gap. I'll figure out what to do after I get back
     from my long-awaited vacaction in the middle of June (till then things
     will be very hectic).

     Hey, would anyone be interested in a NEW nms shirt? I'd still have the 
     old, but we could have a new one designed as well... I know there are 
     several graphics design folks on the list! If you feel like trying one, 
     send me email and I'll tell you what I'm looking for.        : rush-mgr ]

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  Sledge Hammer


From: Scott McDow 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 22:06:21 -0400
Subject: aimee mann/super mann


Just a couple of things I ran across recently on the nms

from the roll the bones Q&A with neil
(found in articles/interviews):

>On my Hold Your Fire cassette, towards the end of
>"Tai Shan" I hear a female singing (Aimee Mann?) What
>is she singing? It is very hard to hear.

>It is indeed Aimee Mann in there, only she's not exactly
>"singing" anything-we took her voice from one of the other
>songs and played it backwards, just as a nice texture which
>gave an eerie, pseudo-Chinese sound.


>1/ Whose voice is on "The Camera Eye" that says "Let us
>through"? (I know it's trivial.)

>Trivial maybe, but at least it's fun! We were looking for an
>urban sound effect, and we ended up using a part of
>Superman, when Clark Kent is arriving at the offices of the
>Daily Planet amid the traffic and bustle of Metropolis. No
>deeper meaning, I promise you.

I'm sure (but can't document) that the Superman use was
Ged's influence. He is a huge movie buff and is the strongest
influence in the video/animation dept. for the video on tour.


I can learn to resist
Anything but biting into a tootsie pop!


From: Scott McDow 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 23:17:30 -0400
Subject: david spade


O.K. For about the sixth time in a month I've
read posts from folks talking about the David
Spade HBO special and the obligatory rush
content. If any have an idea could you please
let me know when this special might be playing
again? Seems like every time I'm channel surfing
Jeff Foxworthy is on HBO. I like Spade and
would like to catch his standup. (rush content

Maybe up here in Michigan we get Jeff Foxworthy
and ya'll down in Alabama get David Spade?



From: Jim Gibbs 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 20:26:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: kids and rush

Well I finally did after lurking for years I going to send a real
message. Someone mentioned they had a son who liked rush. Well I have
a 4 yr. old daughter who I have been able to enlighten (or corrupt as
my wife would have it) with "rushness". I recall as a teenager that
myself and some friends would go into the basement and blast the
stereo and air band to rush for hours. ( I was always geddy btw) Well
now I'm 33 and we have gone our seperate ways, but a few years ago
when she was two (I will still air band when my wife is out) the music
was cranked and I was jamming away and I noticed it..she was joining
me.. i was 14 again and not it is a ritual for us, wife
goes out and we rock! btw i'm still geddy and she's alex.anyway her
favourite song beyond a shadow of a doubt is....roll the bones..don't
know why but she'll grab the cd and tell me to put it on....
anyway i just want to add i've been a rush fan since i was 12 (closer
to the heart was the first album i ever bought) and at 33 there is no
sign of it wearing off..The guys have been with me through thick and
thin always reminding me that this was my life to make something of,
our screw up, no one else to blame ("all of us do time in the gutter,
dreamers learn to steer by the stars...)  with each album they get
better and better like few bands do, never resting on their laurels,
always breaking new ground (something for the rolling stones to learn
in this btw). I just want to thank them for making such great music
and for providing some inspiration for a "misfit"(probably like many
of you I was that kid in subdivisions) who's been able to make
somthing of himself..."now get out there and rock and roll the bones" 

Jim Gibbs
ps I recommend another canuck band for when you want to give those
rush cd's time to cool off..the tragically hip..many see them as the
heir apparent to rush as canada's serious, noncommercial kick ass rock
band(they like rush as well btw)

   [ The Hip is a great band, they remind me of Rush (not that they SOUND
     like Rush by any means) -- each CD of theirs is completely unique.
     It ain't the same old shit different picture crap that some bands are
     known for (anyone say Oasis???) I highly recommend them, either "Day For
     Night" or "Trouble in the Henhouse" are both excellent.      : rush-mgr ]


From: Hanstones 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 00:36:48 EDT
Subject: Rush Dreams

Michael Denney brought up Dreams in Rush tunes.  I agree, but first must point
out that "Courageous convictions will drag our dreams into existence" is from
Vital Signs, not The Camera Eye.  Also, Xanadu and Rivendell make no reference
to dreams, but I get what you were aiming at.

Probably one of my most favorite underlying themes in the music of Rush is
dreams.  Sure they mention dreams in many of their tunes, but, I find they
repeatly sing of how our lives begin with our dreams, and need only act upon
them to be succesful.  I'm not talking about just having a dream, as in Double
Agent, but dreams as mentioned in Jacob's Ladder and Vital Signs, as pointed
out by Michael previously.  In these songs, dreams only need a flame.  One of
my favs, this one from TFOL is similar to Mission:

"Life is just a candle
And a dream must give it flame"
which is similar to 

Middletown Dreams
"Dreams flow across the heartland
Feeding on the fires"

And how about Losing It:
"Some are born to move the world-
To live their fantasies
But most of us just dream about
The things we'd like to be"

Or Everyday Glory
"In the city where nobody smiles
And nobody dreams
In the city where desperation 
Drives the bored to extremes"



From: Grand Designs 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 00:37:13 -0700
Subject: Rush beats Yes!

Rush beats Yes in Battle of the Bands at Mining Company!

Against the run of the mill
Static as it seems
We break the surface tension
With our wild, kinetic dreams

Visit the Grand Designs Rush Site


From: mark irwin 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:48:16 +0000
Subject: Howard Stern

They played "Spirit of Radio" on Howard Stern this morning. Wow.
Mark Irwin

"sometimes the most meaningless drivel is just..plain...meaningless."


From: Elaine Tabinowski 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:57:26 -0700
Subject: Kids & Rush 

Whenever I read a posting on the NMS about a parent introducing their child
to Rush, I am totally delighted...........

>My 10 year old son has apparantly caught the RUSH bug. I always knew he was a
>spectacular child!  Of course I am thrilled (we conspire against the rest
>of the family by slipping RUSH cd's into the player).

What a unique experience.........sharing Rush with your own son or daughter!

Being a Mom of a son and daughter (who are now adults), as well as a
passionate music lover, I have always believed that the appreciation of
music is one of the greatest gifts a parent could pass on to their
children.  When my children were both under the age of 4, I clearly
remember setting them in front of the stereo and playing "All In A Mouse's
Night" by Genesis.  They loved it!

I became a Rush fan around 1977 when AFTK was released.  One day, when my
son, Brian was in high school, he brought home"Signals" which he and a
friend had been listening to and said; "Wow, this is really great music!"
and I said; "Oh yeah, Rush!"  Soon, Brian became a devoted Rush fan and my
love of Rush grew during that time.  We are now BOTH total Rush fanatics.

On the Rush "Test For Echo" tour, I was thrilled to attend 5 concerts.  I
live in Arizona and son Brian lives in  Maryland.  So we combined visits to
see each other with Rush concerts in Phoenix and Bristow, Virginia.

I think it would be interesting to know if there are more mom/dad and
Rush families out there.  If there are, let's hear from you!

And BTW, I would like to add my 2 cents about females and their musical
Being female has nothing to do with the type of music one enjoys.  I
believe it has more to do with one's  levels of:  creativity, intellect,
curiousity, nonconformity, sense of humor and passion for life.  Anyone who
does not allow the constraints that society uses to define what are male or
female behaviors, thought patterns, or preferences is the type of
individual that one often finds among the ranks of Rush fans.

Against the run of the mill
Static as it seems
We break the surface tension with our wild kinetic dreams
Curves and lines -- of grand designs...


From: "Mikey" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:56:20 -0700
Subject: Guest vocalist, Aimee Man, KAZOO! Superfluous post

>From: "Kevin L. Kitchens" 
>Subject: Perfect Female Voice...
>Other non-Canadian contenders would be Chrissie Hynde and Delores ____ 
>from the Cranberries.

Delores O`Reardon? (I think, it's O somethin like that)
I don't think so... She really can't sing man *L* My friend is obsessed
with them as much as I'm obsessed with RUSH... and I don't think that
would really be a good choice...;)

>From: StevieD2 
>Subject: Aimee Mann
>A couple of things..first, several issues ago, someone noted that Aimee Mann
>sings on another song other than Time Stand Still. Can you please e-mail me or
>post again what song she is in. I think it was at the end of a song, somewhat
>burried under the music.

Aimee Man sings during the chorus she's the voice that says "Time Stand
Still, and she sings a small harmony with Ged during the chorus as well
"See more of the people and the places that surround me now, Time Stand

>From: "Katherine H. Moore" 
>Subject: Kazoo?

>Anyway, why don't you try double-tracking the solo like Alex did, with
>those same lazy bends, and see if you still think it's a kazoo. I think
>it's just the result of the "chorus" effect produced by two
>not-quite-the-same pitches. Rush have always been good for a bit of
>humor/obscurity in their liner notes - I think a kazoo would have been
>mentioned on an album where they went so far as to call themselves
>"By-Tor" and "Snow Dog".

That would work for at home, when I"m dinkin around here, but if I play
it live, I'm trying to make it as simple as possible, ya know?  I'm
thinking and eight voice chorus, I haven't had time to play with it
latley, but I think I'll try that...  But I got a message about
overdriven tone so I'll run distortion through my pre-amp and then use
the tube distortion as well. and see what kind of overdriven tone I can
get... BTW I came up with this wicked tone for Beneath, Between, Behind,
use your typical distortion, and then use a two or four voice chorus,
and you'll get that nice warm feel, kick it off for the chorus (The D
major [XX0232} and G Major [3X0033] chords, use a Flange for the small
guitar run at the end (C, B, A, G, F# E / C, B, A, G, F#, G / A, G, F#,
E, F#, E)
I was listening to Leave That Thing Alone!!! and is that the 1/4 inch
plywood making a return appearance during the solo? *LOL*

>From: "Chad Werner" 
>Subject: Just fire & walk away...Superfluous Post.

3. I wish I could play "Analog Kid".
*L* Analog Kid is just a bunch of tripled notes after the A Major Chord
Anyway, pretty funny...;) I got a good laugh out of readin it


The guns replace the plow, facades are tarnished now
The principles have been betrayed
The dreams's gone stale, but still, let hope prevail
History's debt won't be repaid


From: Sean Carroll/Katherine Moore 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 00:47:13 -0600
Subject: Re: Rush & Radio

> I would like to hear about what 
> Rush other people's radio stations play. Take care everyone.
> Palo

Here in Chicago, the Rush "radio chestnut" hall of fame is occupied by:

1. Tom Sawyer
2. The Spirit Of Radio
3. Limelight
4. Closer To The Heart
5. Fly By Night 
6. Subdivisions

I've heard maybe a dozen Rush songs (out of 144) played on the radio
anywhere and ever. It's kind of sad. Gives the impression Rush broke up
sometime back in the early 80's, the same way it (radio) could lead many
to believe Jethro Tull made Aqualung and called it quits. But has a
truly daring, open-minded approach to radio music programming
even        *existed* anywhere, let alone thrived? That would require
integrity on a par with Rush themselves, something the broadcasting
media are not famous for. 

Personally, I like the idea of a radio station that would never play the
same song twice. Ever. *That's* entertainment.

Sean Carroll


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