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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2043


                  Thursday, 28 May 1998

Today's Topics:
     Re: 05/26/98 - The National Midnight Star #2041
                       not a kazoo
                        rush movie
                      Geddy's basses
                         t-shirts
                     by-tor, snow dog
                    canadian football
                   Freedom of criticism
                          (none)
                 Dreams [Still going]...
                      Prince By-Tor
                      my first post
                        Radio Rush
                         Various
            Shirley Manson, Metallica, Visions
                         Tai Shan
           T4E Tour Posters Available for sale
                        Kid Thread
                   Female singer stuff
                   Re: Rush Limbo #2042
                     RE: Pro athletes
                  Rush 8-tracks, anyone?
            flange, phase, something like that
     RE: 05/27/98 - The National Midnight Star #2042
                     Re: Morning??? 
               Rush and Kids/bob and doug..
                      Kids and Rush
                    the straight dope
                   It's in Ged's Jeans
     RE: 05/27/98 - The National Midnight Star #2042
                      Actors & Rush
             Rush in the Boston Radio Market
                    Re:Time and Motion
                   Heartbeats on  AFTK?
                 Take Off/Freewill lyrics
                      Sound systems
                 Subdivisions video game
                  Re: The Tragically Hip
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From: Sean Carroll/Katherine Moore 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 00:59:29 -0600
Subject: Re: 05/26/98 - The National Midnight Star #2041

> Where else 
> can I find the videos?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Caroline

"Guitar Center"s everywhere, as well as (probably) most larger music
stores that cater to rock musicians.

Sean Carroll

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 00:52:12 -0700
Subject: not a kazoo

>Scott McDow said:

>>I think it's a triggered "effect" although
>>King Lerxst mouths it in concert. Who
>>triggers it? Anybody?
>(referring to "subdivisions")

Don't know who triggers it, but it is a sample.  Sounds exactly the same
every time.  Easy enough with MIDI to have any of them trigger it.

>on another Mikey note
>on "In The End" and during the guitar solo
>(at approx. 4:22 on the CD) It sounds like
>the guitar that is bending the A a full step to
>B is doubled by a Kazoo!!! REALLY!!!
>lsiten to it... like RIGHT NOW... and tell
>me... if that is the case

>You betcha. No doubt about it. Left channel.
>It's easier to catch if you balance all the way
>left. Definately a wind/humming sound not
>string. Great call.

Nope.  I've made a few booboos lately, but I stand by this one:  THAT IS
MASSIVE DISTORTION ON A GUITAR OVERDUB,  To do that on a Digitech
anything, max out your distortion balls and level, even it out with the
mixer, and possibly split your left channel, running one track through
another disto unit and mix it back in again.  Or use an effects loop. 
If you have multiple racks, use maximum gain on each stage before that,
and active pickups or DiMarzio Supradistortions.  I can get that sound
running EMG's into the GSP-7, through max gain on my other racks, and
into the amp, with disto cranked.  OR through my Mutron.  But it's not
easy without duplicate racks and a mixer.

mike
"Do autoparanoid schizophrenic agnostic dyslexic insomniacs stay awake
at night wondering if they might BE the dog that's out to get
them?"--Scott Merritt

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 01:02:42 -0700
Subject: rush movie

Well, spoke to Mark Racop at Magichouse Productions, and he says that
he'd have a crack at a Rush Movie for $250,000 to $500,000.  So if
convince a distributor that they can sell 50,000 copies of such a movie
on video, or that it will last two weeks in national release, we can get
him the funding necessary.  Or, If 1000 NMS subscribers each chip in
with $250, on the understanding that it is a risky venture, we can do it
freelance.  He might get bank financing on 20% of that up front.  Any
bank managers on the list willing to front a loan to a small production
company with a short but reliable track record?

Met another NMS subscriber at a SF convention this weekend.  There's
gotta be more of us out there!!!

mike
"The right of self defense, without the legal MEANS of self-defense, is
no right at all."--Mad Mike
http://www.2112.net/daggers    rush related stickers

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From: Sean Carroll/Katherine Moore 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 01:15:49 -0600
Subject: Geddy's basses

Burning questions for bassists/G Lee devotees:

When (tour or album) did Geddy first use the Rickenbacker 4003? Also,
subsequent use of this bass?

Was a Steinberger used to record New World Man?

Facts only, please, no conjecture, and name your source of information.

Thanks in advance to the enlightened.

Sean Carroll

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 01:09:35 -0700
Subject: t-shirts

hey, Rush-MGR, we can do one sided T-shirts at a VERY reasonable price,
and double sided for a bit more.  6 trained artists on staff--airbrush,
CGI, line, and acrylic--and our minimum bulk order is 12 shirts.  Can we
help????

As an example, we just released "Mice in Black" with Pinky and the Brain
(similar, anyway).

for the perfect female voice--Loreena McKinnit.  Or my wife.  

mike  (Cloak & Dagger/Fly By Night Graphics)
http://www.2112.net/daggers    rush-related stickers

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 01:17:54 -0700
Subject: by-tor, snow dog

"Katherine H. Moore" or someone at her addy said:
> sounds like distortion and a talk-box--you can hear the growling say
> "prince bytor" near the beginning of the bit.

I hate to pick on you again, but if you think you can hear a bass run
through "a kitchen sink" of effects and controlled by a volume pedal say
"Prince By-Tor"... either it's very expensive or not very good for you
or both. But let us have some anyway. 

well, it sounds a bit like a talk box effect.  If Ged says it's not, I
believe him.  But listen to that part again, and tell me it doesn't
sound a bit like that?

mike
"We aren't 'gun nuts.'  With our government, you'd be nuts NOT to have a
gun."--Scott Merritt

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 01:25:18 -0700
Subject: canadian football

>(T.J. Higgins) said:

>"Limelight".  As a big fan of the CFL I have to point out an error. 
>The video stated that the balls used in the CFL are smaller than
>those used in the U.S.  In fact, CFL balls are *larger* than the ones
>used in American football.

So Canadians have bigger balls than Americans?  Hell, we KNEW that!
And if you look on a map (Canadians can at least find their country on a
map)  you'll note that Canada is bigger and on top of the US.  So in
prison, the US would be Canada's bitch...

I'm looking for Rush references to my statements recently--let me finish
with the dirty jokes first...

And I haven't heard from Mike Bahr in months--Where IS my copy of E2E?

mike

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From: Slim Jim 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 07:47:47 +0100
Subject: Freedom of criticism

>>>>>  strirand@juno.com writes:
> >From: Slim Jim 
> >Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:18:11 +0100
> >Subject: Unwanted Taurus Augmentation
> >
> >The Taurus pedals were a real pain for the first few years they
> >were used IMO.  Geddy couldn't leave them alone and used to ruin
> >'Lakeside Park' and a few other classics by adding excessive 
> >zoopity-zoo sound effects where none was required, usually over
> >Alex's most tasteful and subtle rhythm parts.  A particular
> >grave offence was his practice of drowning out the delicate
> >acoustic guitar into to 'Closer to the Heart'.  In later years, 
> >he learned to practice a little restraint and discretion.
> >
> >Slim
> 
> 	Who make up the members of the band called RUSH?  As far as I
> remember, your name isn't in the list of three.  They're artists, and
> were doing what they wanted to do.  What gives you the right to 
> critique Geddy's performance on what he did.

Freedom of speech?  The fact that I paid money to attend the 
concerts to which I referred?

It's only right that any artist should be the subject of sincere
criticism now and then, especially by their paying audience.  Your
post is the most naive I have seen for a long time.

Slim

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From: "Michael D Denney" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 98 01:56:13 PDT

Thanks for the overwhelming [8 e-mails today]
response to my post about dreams in Rush
music.  Timm Bielac noted another reference
within 'Red Barchetta' that I'd forgotten--
"To keep it as new has been his dearest dream"
I was using the line at the end,
"To dream with my uncle at the fireside"
I'll probably hear more later.

"Courageous convictions will drag our
dreams into existence"
Michael Denney
archangel@premiernet.net

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From: "Michael D Denney" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 98 02:03:13 PDT
Subject: Dreams [Still going]...

Mikey 	(bytor@lanset.com
	http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/1669)'s
signature is another reference to dreams in the music
of the spheres--

The guns replace the plow, facades are tarnished now
The principles have been betrayed
The dreams's gone stale, but still, let hope prevail
History's debt won't be repaid

"A spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission"
Michael Denney
archangel@premiernet.net

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From: "Michael D Denney" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 98 02:15:31 PDT
Subject: Prince By-Tor

TNMS,
	Not to rub anybody the wrong
way, but at one time I thought the song
was saying something, too.  This was drug-
free.  I for one agree with Katherine Moore
that it's a talk-box run through a synth or
distortion-thingy.

"Courageous convictions will drag our
dreams into existence"
Michael Denney
archangel@premiernet.net

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From: "a s" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 01:29:05 PDT
Subject: my first post

Ok..
This is my first post. What should I say..?
Ok.
I know.
Do you know where I live? In Finland.
Do you know how many times I have seen Rush live? Zero times.
And the propability to see Rush live is about... zero, unless they do a 
world tour. And even then, they wouldn't come to Finland.
This is so depressing.
Rush is never played on radio here, and I have seen only one of their 
videos on TV.
But that doesn't matter, actually. I have all of their records, and I 
can buy tour videos (like ASOH and ESL, which I have)

But it would be quite nice to see the guys live...
sigh.

(btw: the guitar riff from 'the spirit of radio' was in the theme of one 
of our local radio. )

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From: "Ed" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 02:13:19 +0000
Subject: Radio Rush

> I'm curious.  How many Rush songs have gotten good radio play besides 
> TSOR and Tom Sawyer?  I have only heard a few others besides these two 
> and here they are and about the number of times I have heard them (not 
> on any one particular station):

In Seattle 99.9 plays, I would honestly say, about one Rush song 
an hour!  It rocks.  I have heard: (in chronological order)

Working Man, Fly by Night, 2112 (Overture, Temples), Passage to 
Bangkok, Circumstances, The Trees, TSOR, Freewill, Entre Nous, Tom 
Sawyer, YYZ, Limelight, Subdivisons, New World Man, Roll the Bones, 
Test For Echo, Driven, Half the World.

Those are the songs I have heard them play, and have heard them 
numerous times.  Sometimes they play  an ad where the go "So-and so 
Rocks!" and then they play little sound bits of various songs by 
that band  and then play a couple of that bands songs.  Once in a 
while I hear "Rush ROCKS!" and hear parts of Distant Early Warning , 
Big Money, and a couple other songs but then the bust out into Tom 
Sawyer or something along those lines.  Sometimes 99.9 has "The 
Ultimate CD Side" where they pretty much play the greatest hits of a 
band and now and then they feature Rush.   

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From: Andrew_Griffiths@vnu.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 10:42:03 +0100
Subject: Various

Sorry, havn't had chance to look at the digest for a while, therefore if I
am repeating anything previously said, apologies in advance.

1. Female singers for Rush. Is this a serious theme? If so I would love to
hear them do something with Tracey Thorn (EBTG) Something Bravado or The
Pass pace would really suit her haunting voice- check out the stuff she
guested on with Massive Attack.

2. "Morning Guv" from The Camera Eye. I used to have a sneeky suspicion
that this might, just might, have possibly been  a sample of Dennis
Waterman from the '80s TV series Minder, but as no one else have ever
suggested this, I gave up on the idea.

I did have a friend who spent years intrigued by the line about "the
boldest sex shop in the city"

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From: grs2 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:40:48 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Shirley Manson, Metallica, Visions

Dear All,

Kudos to everybody who posted on my 'guest vocalist' 
thread, but extra specials go to everybody who voted for 
Shirley Manson, since I think she's just about as good as 
it gets on the rock female vocalist front right now.  
Anyone who hasn't bought Garbage's new album Version 2.0 
should hasten to a nearby purveyor of compact discs and 
pick it up, as it is simply breathtaking.  

Lucas Harris posted this recently:

>>any Metallica fans out there? I think I like them. I'm really loving 
>>that "fuel" song that's on the radio now. What's a good 'starter' >>album? 
>>Load? (heh heh heh she said load)

>>>Load? Yeah, right. Maybe the first seven songs but not 
>>>crap like "Mama Said".
>>>The Black Album would be better.

I have to disagree.  Personally, I think Mama Said is an 
exceptional song for Metallica, demonstrating a new level 
of depth and emotional resonance for them, which is carried 
through to the new album.  I'd personally recommend Load or 
Re-load anytime over the immature, pretentious 
thrash-metal-lyrical-nonsense of The God That Failed or Of 
Wolf and Man off of the black album, *especially* if it's a 
starter album you're looking for.

And to bump up the Rush content in this post so's I don't 
get panel-beat for trying to turn the NMS into a 
Metallica-forum, somebody recently posted saying they'd 
love to do a post-Visions book on Rush.  My question is, 
isn't it about time Bill Banciewicz (probably spelt wrong) 
did an updated version?  That would be the best...

Testing 4 Echoes,

Greg Sanderson

P.S. Stay tuned for 'Power Windows - why there are no D'oh 
songs' - coming soon to a post near you...

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From: greg cormier 
Date: Wed, 27 May 98 8:39:07 EDT
Subject: Tai Shan

  In NMS issue #2040 Chris Herrage wrote "When I first heard this song, I 
felt that it was the best song for making you feel like you were 
experiencing everything that Neil was !"

  I totally agree with Chris on the mastery of the lyrics serving the music 
and vice versa. The best way to appreciate all the song has to offer is to 
close your eyes and block out everything else except the song and visualize 
what the words are saying and let the music set the mood. When I do this I 
definitely feel like I'm climbing all those stairs just to see that 
fantastic view ! I strongly recommend to all those skeptics of Tai Shan to 
try this method and see for yourselves the mastery of the lyrics and music 
serving each other so well.

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From: Jeffrey Balog 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:19:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: T4E Tour Posters Available for sale

ArtRock is selling for $25 (+ shipping & handling) the poster advertising 
the Dec. 6, 1996 show at U.N.O. Lakefront Arena.  The 23.75" by 18" color 
poster has the man in the star floating in space ( a guitar is the 
background).  You can contact ArtRock at 1-800-262-7249 or 
WWW.ARTROCK.COM.  The item # is MG038.  The website did not list this item 
but it is available in their spring catalog.  I ordered my copy yesterday.

ArtRock sells collectibles for mostly classic rock artists. 

   [ If anyone has or has seen the Presto tour poster with hand & bunny in
     the hat, it's by the same company (I personally dislike both of them
     and will probably never buy either)                         : rush-mgr ]

Jeff

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From: "Patrick Lyon" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:04:04 EDT
Subject: Kid Thread

Hello Fellow Rush Freaks...

I think this "kid thread" is pretty cool, so I must respond.  A couple 
of Xmas' ago, Santa brought my (then) 6 year old son Chris a Fender 
Strat Pack, and me a Fender P-bass package.  With the help of his 
Uncle(Hi Justin!), he and I have been learning how to play.  He has 
taken quite a liking to Rush, Black Sabbath, and Ozzy---especially Rush!  
Let me tell ya, it's been a lot harder for me to learn Ged's bass lines 
than it has for him to pick up on Alex's work(except for the leads, of 
course).  We like to jam to 2112's Overture and Temples, Fly By Night, 
Working Man, Bastille Day, The Necromancer, and a few others.  He seems 
to love old Rush and new Rush, but doesn't listen to a lot of the stuff 
in the middle.  He is totally into T4E.  His other favorite CD's:  Rush, 
FBN, CoS, 2112, AFtK, and PeW.  I've been trying to turn everyone into 
"Rushians" my whole life, and now I don't even have to try with my son.  
Life is grand sometimes! :)
Take care Rush Freaks...

P.J.

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From: "Sewer Urchin" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:27:23 EDT
Subject: Female singer stuff

I guess I missed the beginning of this thread since I don't read every 
issue so I may be sounding like a retard but...

What about Aimee Mann?  I think her vocals on HYF (Time Stand Still) 
were reall good.  Why not work with her again?

Bryan

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From: "Kevin L. Kitchens" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:33:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Rush Limbo #2042

> >>Whoever does his bumper music must be a fan, because I am pretty sure
> >>>>I've heard some Rush on Rush before.  Nearly fell off my chair at the
> >>>>irony.
> 
> Sorry Rush-mgr(for the mild political content..but this must be
> straigtened out for once and all!!), but if anybody thinks that the guys
> in Rush actually want anything to do with Limbaugh, and finally realize
> the guys actually think he is a big goof, check out Alex's oppinion of him
> on the T4E album premiere!!

What did you "straighten out"?  It had nothing to do with the band's 
attitude toward Rush L.  But that his programmer/producer or 
whoever, played some of Rush's music as bumper to his show.  I 
don't believe they need the Band's permission.
Kevin L. Kitchens, PEI Programming, Stone Mountain, Georgia
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PEI Programming:                  http://www.peiprog.com 
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The BEST Grid: SpreadOCX   -Info: http://www.fpoint.com

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From: GMCLEOD@uapinc.com
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:35:32 -0400
Subject: RE: Pro athletes

Hello my fellow Rush fan(atic)s:

<>

"Michael Cangemi"  wrote:

>On an entirely unrelated note, here's a Rush sighting which I don't 
>think anyone's mentioned yet.  During games at Yankee Stadium, each guy

>on the Yankees comes to bat to their own choice of music.  Chuck 
>Knoblauch comes up to Big Money.  Anybody else hear this?  Does anyone 
>else know of other pro athletes who are Rush fans?

Here in Montreal, F.P. Santangelo comes up to Working Man.  Appropriate!

<>

Glen McLeod

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From: chrise@spie.org
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 12:39:30 -0700
Subject: Rush 8-tracks, anyone?

I know it sounds weird, but I got a couple of Rush 8-tracks from my brother
as a gag gift, and I thought there could be someone out there in NMS-land
who might actually want these.  They are: "All the World's a Stage" and "A
Farewell to Kings"

They're really beat up, and I have no idea if they play (I haven't seen an
8-track player in close to 20 years)... but if there are any collectors out
there who've got to have it all, I will gladly send them to you if you send
me enough stamps for them.  Please e-mail me privately, in case there's
more than one of you interested...

Cheers,

Chris

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:30:36 -0700
Subject: flange, phase, something like that

> Slim Jim said:

>To be pedantic he used a flanger on the first album - certainly not
>overdubs - to achieve the effect as evident on (eg) In the Mood.

sorry.  first studio use of flanger was "Barracuda" by Heart.  If there
was flanging on the first album, it was tape flanging--a tricky effect,
but well within Broon's capability.

All these solid-state effects are very new. (mid to late 70's) The
phaser Alex used sounds a bit flange-like, which is why it was
invented--to simulate tape-flanging.  You might be hearing a phaser, as
he did have one.

mike

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From: "Wilson, Daniel" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:57:07 -0400
Subject: RE: 05/27/98 - The National Midnight Star #2042

It's sad to hear about everyone fighting to hear Rush on the radio.  I
live in Rockville, MD and I can tell you that 98Rock out of Baltimore
plays A LOT of Rush, during the day and in the morning mostly.  the also
use musical "snippets" from 2112 and La Villa during their station
identifications.  The actually have cool DJs too.  I just came from
Richmond VA where radio is awful!  XL102 (Richmond classic rock station)
plays Rush maybe once every 2 months, but will play the Stones and
Aerosmith 157 times a day.....No lie, I once heard 3 Stones tunes during
a three hour morning show, which is mostly talk and jokes!  That station
is really pitiful.  I feel for rockers in Richmond.  But now I'm lucky
enough to live near a station on which I have heard the following:
All of Moving Pictures (sans The Camera Eye)
Something For Nothing
Working Man (once a week)
Fly by Night
Anthem
Bastille Day
Closer to the Heart
The Trees (once a week)
La Villa Strangiato
The Spirit of Radio
Freewill
Subdivisions
New World Man
The Analog Kid
Distant Early Warning
The Big Money
Force Ten
Time Stand Still
Show Don't Tell
Dreamline
Animate
Stick it Out
Test For Echo
Driven
Half the World
Promise (victor)

98 ROCK RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: Slim Jim 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 20:57:19 +0100
Subject: Re: Morning??? 

>>>>>  "Joseph Ornelas" writes:
> Gov (or guv) is short for Governer, which I believe would be the 
> British equivalant of a very formal "Sir."  Whatever it's used 
> for, it definitely is not Doug.

Hello from England.. no, actually, although derived from the term
"Governor", "Guv" is short for "Guvnor" a very INformal way to say
"Sir", often used by taxi drivers and the lower classes, eg:

"Dulwich..?  I'm not going sarf o' the river this time o'night 
guv."

Slim

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From: "Daniel Ware" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:09:04 -0600
Subject: Rush and Kids/bob and doug..

Hey gang...
Had to comment on the Rush and kids theme.. During the summers of 1991,92, I
worked at a Jewish Summer camp in Maine. (Camp Modin). I had about a dozen 7
to 10 year old boys in my charge, and would play music for them at night, to
help them relax. Their favorites? Enya's Shepard Moons, and a compilation
tape I made of quieter Rush tunes (ie) Rivendell, Different Strings, Losing
it, etc.. They just loved it. I hope, now that they're older, they still dig
Rush as much as they did then.. God I miss working at that camp. I can't
believe its been so long since I was there. Maine is about the coolest place
I've been outside New Mexico..

Oh, BTW, I can't remember if I've asked this before, but is there any word
on the when and if the new  Bob and Doug movie has even started produciton?
Did anyone see their recent commercial? Someone told me about it, but I
haven't seen it yet. I remember the Pizza Hut ad they did a while back. It
was pretty funny..
Cheers from New Mexico..
Dan

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From: langford 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:09:54 -0500
Subject: Kids and Rush

Greetings Campers,

	Kathy asked if anyone elses kids get into Rush.  Well I've got 
two of them.

	My son first got into Roll The Bones. Then, after he asked who 
that was, it dawned on him that Dad plays Rush all the time. Now he 
tells me that his favorite Rush tune is Driven.

	My daughter and I were playing on the computer the other day and 
I had Fly By Night and Presto in the Changer. She sang Fly By Night from 
beginning to end. Normally I would have told her to stop but she was 
pretty much on key with Geddy.  I, looking on from behind, smiled 
proudly. 

Paul

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 15:06:04 -0700
Subject: the straight dope

ok, the story got scrambled in my memory.  I have a mind like a steel
trap--everything goes in and gets crushed and mangled.

Guitar School, May '90. interview with Alex, transcription:
Q:  How does Presto differ from past efforts?
AL: The approach on this record was to go for a chunkier, more
unaffected sound--getting away from my terrible 10-year dependency on
chorus (laughs).  I really liked having just the straight-forward guitar
into the amp sound.  It may be taking a few steps back, yet is still
refreshing for me.  My custom Signature (see Vital Stats) with the
split-coil active bridge pickup gives me clarity and brightness; at the
same time I can get a chunky thickness and warmth out of the humbucker.
Q:  Your comment on the chorus makes me think of a story about Jaco
Pastorius.  He was playing with Joni Mitchell and she came in with one
of the first chorus amps, maybe a Roland.  When he heard it, he just
immediately commandeered it and played through it the rest of the
night.  It's such a great sound.  {this is where I screwed up}
AL:  I went through exactly the same thing on AFTK, way back in _77_
(emphasis mine).  I rented a new Roland Jazz Chorus before the session,
and I couldn't _believe_ how it sounded.  I thought, "Where has this
sound been all my life?"  Unfortunately, I got very dependent on it.

So, THERE WAS NO CHORUS BEFORE AFTK.  The box came out in late '76, as
did electronic flanging.  Digital delay existed in 75, and was used on
The Necromancer.--VERY expensive effect then--about $10,000 (then) for a
fractional second delay.  These days, 8 seconds costs $200.

mike
"Gun exchanges would be alright if you turned in a criminal and they
gave you a gun."  Scott Merritt

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From: j_mevorah@hwawashington.com (Jack Mevorah)
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 17:13:22 -0400
Subject: It's in Ged's Jeans

Scott McDow  says of Ged:

> He is a huge movie buff and is the strongest influence in
> the video/animation dept. for the video on tour.

Maybe its genetic!?

That's a mighty familiar name on the tour credits ...

   "Rear Screen Projections created by Spin Productions:
    Norman Stangl, Alan Weinrib, Roy Pike, Peter Wellington,
    Chris Van Dyke, Ian Robertson, Rob Jones, Nuno Paulino,
    John Coldrick, Mark Powers, Ferene Rofusz, Steven Lewis,
    Paul Cormack"

jack

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From: "Turner, Karl J. (EXCH)" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 17:23:56 -0400
Subject: RE: 05/27/98 - The National Midnight Star #2042

>Here in Chicago, the Rush "radio chestnut" hall of fame is occupied by:
>
>1. Tom Sawyer
>2. The Spirit Of Radio
>3. Limelight
>4. Closer To The Heart
>5. Fly By Night 
>6. Subdivisions
>
>Sean Carroll

Greetings all !!

The posts regarding radio stations' reluctance to play more than a
couple of Rush songs strikes a chord w/ me too.  However, here in
Syracuse, N.Y., we're slightly spoiled by WAQX-FM (95.7 if you're in the
area).  In addition to Mr. Carroll's list, we also hear such delights as :

The Trees (most frequently), Red Barchetta, New World Man, Working Man
(I swear), Freewill (a lot), and occasionally Dreamline (when the moon
is full).

Like most fellow Rushians, I'd love to hear Hemispheres, 2112, and
Xanadu, but let's not push our luck !

It's just that Led Zep, though phenomenal, gets tons of airplay, about
30 songs, over & over & over  etc. And don't get me started on Boston !!
  But I guess only having the Chronicles CD in their studios (the
stations probably bring the rest to their local used record shop) limits
the selections.  But hey, who doesn't think their favorite artists get
enough respect ?

Whew !!  That felt great !  I should post more often !!

Best to all, Karl Turner                kjturner@intermedia.com

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From: "The Voice Of Silence" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:23:06 -0700
Subject: Actors & Rush

Rush Fans,

I truely believe that the only three actors in the
world that would come close to portraying geddy,alex
and neil as actors would be:

Cheech & Chong as Geddy and Alex
Pee-Wee Herman as Neil

 --
       The Voice Of Silence
______________________________________

I Am Made From The Dust Of The Stars
       And The Oceans Flow In
             My Veins

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From: Dom Kallas 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 17:44:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Rush in the Boston Radio Market

Hello...

There is an unwritten rule in the Boston area when it comes to radio
stations playing Rush:  your station must be outside of a 40-mile radius
from Downtown Boston.  There are occasional exceptions: WZLX (100.7) plays
Rush once in a great while (it's either "The Spirit of Radio," "Tom
Sawyer," or "Limelight.") or WBCN (which played stuff off of CP but
nothing from TFE since the station is trying to out-alternative the
"alternative" station known as WFNX).  However, if you are looking for
Rush on the radio, you have to tune your radio to the fainter stations
such as WHJY (Providence RI, 94.1), WHEB (Portsmouth NH, 100.3), WGIR
(Manchester NH, 101.1), or WAAF (Worcester MA, 107.3).  They feature Rush
in their playlists, and they make sure they play tracks off of the new
albums when they come out. 

	Here's some Rush songs I remember hearing on WAAF over the past
few years to give you an idea of their support of Rush: 

	Cinderella Man
	The Trees
	The Spirit of Radio
	Freewill
	Entre Nous
	Tom Sawyer
	YYZ
	Limelight
	Subdivisions
	The Analog Kid
	Dreamline
	Stick It Out
	Cold Fire
	Animate
	Test For Echo

>...and I believe that WAAF carried the world premiere broadcasts of both
CP and TFE.

________________________________________________________________________________
The angle of the dangle is inversely proportional to the heat of the beat
								Beavis
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From: harper@magiclink.com
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:58:09 +0000
Subject: Re:Time and Motion

Hey there, Hi there, Ho there!!

       Superman in Supernature
       Needs all the comfort he can find

To me, this means that even the best man(or woman) on the best 
circumstances possible still needs as much comfort or compasion as 
they can get.  Kind of a "No one is immune to being lonely" type 
thing.

Don't ask me...I'm just improvising!!
 Jaime

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From: "Jan Estling" 
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 00:11:32 +0200
Subject: Heartbeats on  AFTK?

Hello!

Since summer 75 ive been a"Rushist"
Well im just woundering,listning to 
the end of Cygnus X-1 book one 
you can hear some heartbeats or?
Someone who knows?

swederusher "lex rushon"

"Im a working man with my dog years behind me"

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From: chrise@spie.org
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:59:42 -0700
Subject: Take Off/Freewill lyrics

There's been some discussion about when "Great White North" came out:

>Are you absolutely sure on this?
>
>"Take Off!" was one of the reasons I started listening to Rush, and 
>that didn't happen until late 1983, early 1984 (My senior year).  I 
>was a long time Bob and Doug fan (from SCTV), so I sure that 
>album didn't come out until 83 or 84.

I'm pretty certain I got "Great White North" shortly after ESL, before
Signals came out.  I'm thinking Christmas 1981...  Anybody still got it on
vinyl and can check the date?  Then again, I suppose it doesn't really
matter when it came out, right?

Then, in another post from the same issue:

>>1-I notice in 'Freewill' that Geddy says "if you choose
>>not to decide you still have made a choice" but the
>>lyric sheet inside the album clearly say "you cannot
>>have made a choice".  Did the band do some inter-
>>views or something that influenced them to change
>>the song at some point?

SNIP

>times in the recording studio.  IMHO, he changed the lyrics to make
>a point about the song Freewill.  Free will (the concept) deals with
>us having the power to change our destiny, if their is destiny.  Free-
>will's (the song) destiny is written on the lyric sheet.  But Geddy
>changes its destiny.  I realize this is a major stretch, but it fits
>and it's a good explanation.

I think this is much simpler than that... this question comes up fairly
often here.  See the FAQ, question #78.  Condensed version here:

According to a member of the Backstage Fan Club, someone wrote to Neil
about the apparent mistake in the Freewill lyrics and Neil responded:

"You and James of New York are right about this thing.  I don't know how it
happened- the lyrics are right on the Canadian sleeve- I can only imagine
that our American record company got hold of an uncorrected typeset.  I
hate that!"

Any Canadians with original copies of the PeW record able to check the
lyric sheet for us?

Cheers,

Chris

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From: "Antony Gelberg" 
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 00:05:33 +0100
Subject: Sound systems

>3-I was wondering if anyone had experimented with
>stereo systems and come up with the optimum set-
>up for playing Rush albums, CDs, or cassettes?

I am lucky enough to have an Arcam Alpha 8 CD Player, Alpha 9 amplifier,
Monitor Audio Studio 3 speakers, and an REL Q100E sub.  Everything I play
sounds good, but Rush really comes out well, it's a warm sound, but still
detailed with great soundspace and separation.  It's really hard to pick out
the best sounding song out of them all, but I'd have to say that La Villa,
YYZ, and The Analog Kid all sound the bollocks!!

Adding the sub has added a lot more presence, especially to those albums
previously sounding a little thin e.g. Power Windows, Presto

Antony

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From: Ketan Deoras 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:35:28 -0400
Subject: Subdivisions video game

I can't remember who asked this question so that's why I'm just posting
this answer to the list, sorry about the waste of space.  For whoever asked
what the name of that game is in Subdivisions, it's called Tempest.
Someone gave me a copy for my PC, and as stupid it is, I have played it a
couple of times.  I can't even get close to that dorky kid's score on the
video though.  I can't get as fired up or as pissed off about it as that
guy either.
Carving away the stone,
ketan  

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From: "bytor" 
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:51:33 -0500
Subject: Re: The Tragically Hip

>>ps I recommend another canuck band for when you want to give those
rush cd's time to cool off..the tragically hip..many see them as the
heir apparent to rush as canada's serious, noncommercial kick ass rock
band(they like rush as well btw)

   [ The Hip is a great band, they remind me of Rush (not that they SOUND
     like Rush by any means) -- each CD of theirs is completely unique.
     It ain't the same old shit different picture crap that some bands are
     known for (anyone say Oasis???) I highly recommend them, either "Day For
     Night" or "Trouble in the Henhouse" are both excellent.     : rush-mgr ]<<

I second that notion.  The Hip have become one of my favourite bands here
in the last couple of years.  I'd have to go with "Fully Completely" as
their 'magnum opus', though.  The sheer brilliance of that disc is
comparable to Rush's "2112" or "Moving Pictures"!  By the way, The Hip has
a new album due out in July...I belive it's called "Phantom Power"...a
North American tour should follow shortly thereafter.  In concert, they are
like a wild acid trip without the side effects!!

   [ And because they never really "hit the big time" in the U.S., they're
     still playing small, intimate clubs so check them out!!       : rush-mgr ]

Here's a fantasy billing:

Rush
Tragically Hip
King's X

Man, I'd need plenty of Kleenex on hand for that one!!

Just my random thinks...

Dave

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