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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2046

                  Tuesday, 02 Jun 1998

Today's Topics:
          Re: Drummer Question - Natural Science
                  Athletes & Rush pt. 84
                   evil country, et al
    Re: Ged's sound - Rush is split? - A fake in ESL?
                That sound on "In the End"
                    Rush on the Radio
                peart for city councilman
                        Dog Years
                  Your own Red Barchetta
             Geddy's bass sound in ESL Video
                Count me In on the shirts
                     Rush and Mexico
            Ayn Rand growing in popularity???
                      i see red ...
                       By-Tor sound
                    Rush = Iron Maiden
                   The Live compilation
 Question about keyboard setups and looking for rare CD's
                    A Farewell To CDs
     Re: 06/01/98 - The National Midnight Star #2044
                    Re: Rush on boats
                Marillion Recommendations
                    rush on the radio
                    Burning for Geddy
     Re:T-shirt hunt, PeW drum overdub?, Kids-n-Rush
      Natural Science Drum "Overdub" &  A Boat Pic!
   Re: Another Hair-Brained Idea for the 2112 Issue...
                       Geddy Spice
                    Rush on the Radio
         Re-recorded Vocals on _A Show of Hands_?
     Re: 06/01/98 - The National Midnight Star #2044
     Re: 06/01/98 - The National Midnight Star #2044
   RE: Another Hair-Brained Idea for the 2112 Issue...
   Re: PLEASE HELP! - "Narpets" meaning needed (#2045)

From: "David M. Fornalsky" 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:14:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Drummer Question - Natural Science

>>Drummer question :  Has anyone noticed that on Natural Science that the
drums starting when Ged sings  "In their own image, the world is
fashioned..." seemed to be overdubed? There's a ride cymbal happening as
well as a washy hi-hat thing going on.<<

He's alternating between the ride bell and hi-hat. One hand on the
ride, the other on the hi-hat. When it's time for the snare drum,
his right hand comes off the cymbal for the hit, then right back
to the cymbal. It's 32nd notes, so it washes together nicely
giving the impression the two cymbals are being played at the same

 - Dave


From: "Costello, Bryan" 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:02:23 -0400 
Subject: Athletes & Rush pt. 84

Hey y'all,

For what it is worth.....

I had moved to Wichita, KS during the summer of 1984 to live with my
Father and attend Wichita State University (from where I graduated in
1989 with a degree in Political Science & a degree in History). Wichita
is a town of only about 300,000, not big at all, and is more
"Southwestern" than it is "Midwestern". 

Anyway, my Father owned and operated a bar there called "Incahoots", and
several of the players for The Wichita Aeros (the triple A team for The
Cincinnati Reds), used to frequent the place and drink their dinner
there after the games. One of which was an incredibly nice guy named
Brad "The Animal" Leslie, a pitcher. He was always leaving us tickets
for games and bringing in players from the other teams and such, an all
around friendly/class guy.

The night was Thursday, June 13, 1984, the eve of the Rush/Gary Moore
show at the Kansas Coliseum in Wichita. I was there at The Bar, working
with my Father, the place was packed, and Brad came in for his usual
post game festivities with his normal 3 or 4 other
players....Plus......Geddy Lee!

Geddy had attended the game that night, Brad saw him, introduced
himself, quickly made friends with him, etc. etc. etc. Gave Geddy the
VIP tour of a Triple A ball park, threw in a couple of baseballs for he
& his kid, and were then going out after the game to "lift a few". I
spoke to Geddy for awhile, he was very nice and very cordial....(I kept
The Rush talk to a minimum, afterall, he wasn't "on the clock", eh?) but
when I did pose him a music question, I found him to be very candid and
straight forward, not a pretentious "Mr. Rock & Roll" -type, which I
knew he would not be anyway. I got the feeling he would have answered
about anything I would have asked him. 

Whenever baseball was mentioned, he would talk your ear off. He seemed
to be as "in awe of" Brad, as Brad was of he. It was almost like he
could not believe he was getting to hang out with some baseball players.
As the evening wore on, a few folks would come over and ask for an
autograph, to which Geddy would graciously comply. It was no big deal at
all to him, he was happy to do it. In fact, he grabbed a stack of Molson
Beer coasters, and whenever anyone asked, he would peel one off & sign

I saw Geddy the next night after the show and he remembered me as well.
Brad had to miss the show, for The Aeros had a game, but as fate would
have it, he got called up to The Reds a few weeks later, and Rush was in
town for a Saturday evening show. The Reds had an afternoon game, so
Brad got to attend. When he got sent back to Wichita later in the
summer, all he spoke of was his evening of "Grace under Pressure" with

Brad was a relief pitcher, never really hit the big time, but Topps did
make a card of him in their 1986 set. If you look inside of the credits
for what would be Rush's next album, "Power Windows" concealed in the
credits & Thank You's is:

"On the mound: The Animal"

So Brad Leslie's legacy lives, not in the spirit of Baseball, but in the
Spirit of the Radio, the realm of Rush. 

Just thought someone might be interested,
yours in allegiance,

Bryan C

   [ Didn't want to interrupt the story, so I put my query down here:
     June 13th was a Wednesday, and according to the tour dates listing
     they were playing Tulsa that night. The 14th was a Thursday, but I 
     had Rush playing Wichita on the 15th (Friday). So the listing has been
     changed to the 14th unless I hear otherwise...            : rush-mgr ]


From: (Chuck Flowers)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:19:21 -0500
Subject: evil country, et al

>My son (6) is the stumbling block in the family. For some reason he's
embraced the music of Garth Brooks and >Shania Twain.  Are there any
country music deprogrammers out there? 

Don't know of any personally, but you had better find one quick.  You're
son's future is at stake.

>I've heard a lot of positive talk about Marillion on this mailing list
and I want to go and check them out.  Which >Albums should I check out

Try the album "Clutching At Straws."  It is a great CD.  Don't expect to
hear much Rush influence in it.  It does sound alot like Genesis though.

>Thanks to everyone who recommended the Bare Naked Ladies. I had the
opportunity to see them yesterday (3 >songs acoustically performed at
work for our sales group) and loved their music.  Unfortunately, no Rush
covers. >Oh well, maybe next time.

I'm not aware that they do any Rush covers (other than the bits of a
couple of songs on their first album).  However, they do cover Public
Enemy and the song is available to the public for sale.  I may as well
use this opportunity to plug the new PE album.  Not as good as "Fear Of A
Black Planet" but good nonetheless.

c money


From: Alex Gray 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:45:29 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: Ged's sound - Rush is split? - A fake in ESL?

On, Thu, 28 May 1998 17:15:02 PDT, "Remis Ramos"  

>>Hello all Rushians everywhere!

             I'am a bass player, I have spent all my time playing 
Geddy's songs, during four long years, and I want to emulate the 
signature sound of Ged in the HYF lp. I have a Gibson and a Laney amp.<<

My condolences.  ^_^

Seriously, I've never played a Gibson bass.  The only person I've ever seen 
doing so is Adam Clayton of U2 (check out the band photo on the inside 
front cover of the "Achtung Baby" CD booklet).  How is it?
I didn't know Laney made _bass_ amps...  How is it?

Geddy-no soundo on HYF (I assume you mean his _bass_ sound):  Well, I 
achieved a reasonable facsimile by cranking all the volumes and tones on my 
bass (which is how I normally play) (meaning, use both pickups), then 
turning the amp's lows down, the mids up and leaving the treble at 5.  Be 
sure you don't get any distortion; the Wal sound, as opposed to the Fender 
or Rick sound, is a _clean_ sound.

The REAL secret:  You've heard the expression "Tone is in the fingers"?  
Well, that's very true in Geddy's case.  He plays fingerstyle, but he plays 
fingerstyle HARD (if you've seen him play, a lot of times he seems to be 
picking with all his fingers together, probably making contact mostly with 
that middle nail of his), which is why he has such a cutting, aggressive 
sound.  That's somewhat less the case on PoW and HYF, tho...
Also, it would help to get a Wal bass .  They have a very distinctive 
Lastly, I seem to remember somebody posting a Geddy interview here in which 
he said that he used lighter-gauge strings on HYF.  Makes sense, as his 
bass sound is "snappy" rather than "grungy" compared to other Rush albums.

Alex R. Gray,

"A _person_ is smart.  _People_ are dumb, panicky, dangerous
animals and you know it."
                     - "Men In Black"


From: Alex Gray 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:57:17 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: That sound on "In the End"

I brought this EXACT SAME thing up back around Christmas or so.  Didn't 
generate NEARLY this amount of discussion.

The sound doubling Alex's solo is NOT a guitar, I'm sorry.  Maybe it's 
because I routinely listen via quality headphones, but I can quite 
clearly hear distinguishing characteristics of a FIDDLE, a VIOLIN.  You can 
hear it scraping, you can hear the player not _quite_ hit a high 
note at 4:36 and then slide off.  As the solo ends, Alex goes into a really 
heavy repeated chord (perhaps hence the "more distortion than a human 
should be allowed to use without a license" thing) while the fiddle and 
maybe one of the guitar tracks (that solo is at _least_ doubletracked) stay 
on the repeated pentatonic riff until Geddy comes back in.

I've listened to that section over and over, many times, and I just can't 
_not_ hear the fiddle's distinct scraping attack (particularly right when 
it comes in at 4:22 or whatever).  The only way a _guitar_ could do that 
would be with the aid of a fairly advanced guitar synth, which Alex most 
certainly did NOT have in 1975...

btw Remis Ramos, another note: to the best of our collective knowledge, 
even though Rush may not be touring this year, they are not breaking up 

Alex R. Gray,

"A _person_ is smart.  _People_ are dumb, panicky, dangerous
animals and you know it."
                     - "Men In Black"


From: Matthew & Colleen 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:59:43 -0400
Subject: Rush on the Radio

For those of you who care what Rush songs any particular radio station might 
When Signals came out in 1982, WMMR in Philadelphia used to play "Digital Man" 
all the time. I remember hearing it and not knowing what the title was. They 
also used to play the live versions of 
"Tom Sawyer" and "The Spirit of Radio", "Entre Nous"(studio, obviously), and 
I think even the studio version of "Jacob's Ladder" a few times.
Now I live in Boston. A few years ago, I worked graveyard shift at a 
convenience store. Every night at 3am, WZLX does "Long Song of the Night". 
Two times I was blown away to here Rush-the live version of "Xanadu" and the 
live version of "By-Tor and the Snow Dog". That  one really shocked me...must 
have been a request.

Matt Riley

Any bass players in the Boston area want to jam on some Rush?


From: Joe Lynch 
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 16:49:10 -0700
Subject: peart for city councilman

Here in Woodland, California, running for city councilman is 54 year old
business owner Neal Peart! No, not our Neil, but some coincidence.

It's pretty cool driving around town seeing all these signs reading "Peart
for City Council." 

Another guy named Arrowsmith is running, too. I guess I'll have to vote
the Rock and Roll ticket tomorrow.
Joe Lynch
Valley Media, Inc.
(the One Stop Formerly Known as Valley Records)
(530) 661-7810


From: Steve May 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:28:38 -0600
Subject: Dog Years

When T4E came out, I thought that "Dog Years" was one of the worst Rush
songs ever.  Now, however, it has turned into one of my favorites on the
album.  The bass line is just incredible.  Just a thought.

"Too many rapids keep us sweeping along.  Too many captains keep on
steering us wrong." - Neil Peart


From: Caroline in the City 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 20:12:58 -0500
Subject: Your own Red Barchetta

Hello fellow Rush freaks!

I've been corresponding with a fellow NMS'er (Hi, Tom!!), and 
we discussed a thread that I thought would be kind-of fun. How many 
NMS'ers have their own Red Barchetta? I recently bought mine...a 1995 red 
Mazda Miata. It's my graduation present to myself. And the first song I 
played in the tape deck? Guess...

   [ The co-rush-mgr owns a red '94 Toyota Celica :-)   Me, I get a 
     gray van! hee hee                                       : rush-mgr ]

On another topic, we've been talking about guests vocalists...what about 
guest guitarists? I, for one, would love to hear Eric Johnson play on 
some tracks with the boys...has anyone out there got Stu Hamm's CD called 
"The Urge"? I highly reccommend it. Anyway, I've seen Eric open for the 
boys, but it would truly be a musical orgasm for me to hear them playing 

Anyone care to second this?

Rush on, guys!


Now playing: "Everybody Holds the Future", The Why Store

"If a tree falls in the forest and no one's around, and it hits
 a mime, does anyone care?" --THE FAR SIDE, Gary Larson


From: "dman" 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:03:53 -0400
Subject: Geddy's bass sound in ESL Video

Hi everyone, I like to know if anybody out there have an idea how Geddy got
his Ric to sound like it does in the ESL Video. I know Rics have a punchy
bass sound ( I know, I own one ) but the sound in the Video to me is just
AWESOME!!!! I would kill to know this secret of getting that sound from my
Ric. Please provide details and Amp settings if necc. You all have my TIA.


Toronto, Canada

Ric 4003 owner (best bass I've ever played)


From: "Willaim E.\"Hap[lo Peart\" Dunn Jr." 
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 22:50:43 -0400
Subject: Count me In on the shirts

I even have an Idea...did anyone get a good shot of the Dino's on the
last tour?

|  /====\  #     #  /===\  |     |"A memo to a higher office open|
|  |     | #     # |       |     |letter to the powers that be"  |
|  |____/  #     #  \___   |_____|  |
|  |    \  #     #      \  |     |                 |
|  |     \ \     /       | |     |         |
|  |     |  \___/   \===/  |     |William E."HaploPeart" Dunn Jr.|


From: Ryan Joseph King 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:40:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Rush and Mexico


I was shooting the shiznit with some dude and I found out he was a rush
fan.  He told me that Rush is big in Mexico.  Especially Rush cover bands.
Any input?

   [ Well, I can say that I get probably 5 letters a week from Mexico, Brazil,
     Peru & other Central & South American countries wondering when is Rush
     playing there and why doesn't Rush tour there (sometimes they're not
     in English which is interesting to read...)               : rush-mgr ]



From: "Anderson, Chris " 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:58:49 -0400 
Subject: Ayn Rand growing in popularity???

hey NMSers out there,

About this time last year I noticed an ad posted
on a bulletin board back at my home school of Virginia Tech.
This ad was about a group that met like once every two weeks
to discuss the works (and meaning of those wokrs) by Ayn Rand.
Recently, while watching South Park (a very low-intel but comical
cartoon on Comedy Central), I noticed the use of Ayn Rand...the
formerly illiterate policeman turned - reader was going to read this
book.  How did Ayn Rand come up?  Furthermore, in a newspaper
down in Virginia it appears that some high school kid was in car
accident and during his recovery he said he would read stuff by
Ayn Rand.  He went on to make a comment on how his friend
had read this book and how this reading greatly influenced his 

I have heard that Rand's work shows up in Peart's lyrics on 2112
or Hemispheres or of them...
I would like to think that Neil really did reach people through the
lyrics on 2112/hemispheres.....he/Rush made Ayn Rand more known
maybe,,,,,well, who knows for sure.

(BTW, could someone fill me in on which album has lyrics that were 
influenced by the works of Rand?)

Anyway, just email me if you noticed the use of Ayn Rand on South Park
>.....I nearly died laughing!!!!  

I need to read this Ayn Rand philosophical
stuff now it seems......

Chris A.


From: "Aaron Calder" 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:08:27 MDT7MST
Subject: i see red ...

Hello fellow Rush-Addicts,

What is it with Rush and the color Red? It seems to be their favorite
color, as it is mentioned more than any other color, here are a few 
of the more obvious Red references:

Red Barchetta
Red Tide
Red Sector A
Red Lenses
"Red alert - Red alert" and
"Take a page from the red book"  (Distant Early Warning)
"We can fall from rockets' red glare" (Between the Wheels)
The Red Star of the Solar Federation 
The Red Fire Hydrant on Signals cover
The men moving the pictures are all wearing Red clothing
Band Name on the covers of Presto, Moving Pictures ,Hemispheres,
     Hold your Fire and Rush 
Entire Hold Your Fire cover

So it seems that Grace Under Pressure contains the greatest number
of Reds.

I don't think that all this Red has anything to do with Communists
and if any of you do you probably work for MTV or Rolling Stones
Magazine.  My guess is that all these references to Red have to do with
the Red Maple leaf on the Canadian flag, that would seem to be the 
most logical explanation.  Who Knows? Maybe Red is Neils Favorite 

Aaron Calder

No way these are my shorts ... these bend.
 David Lister

I'm really getting good at this lying mode.


From: Chad Mitchell 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:14:03 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: By-Tor sound

>I have a book in front of me right now called Bass Heroes that was 
>put out by Guitar Player Magazine.  It has an interview done in 1980 
>with Geddy, and he explains the noise.
>The growling noises....Explained by Mr. Geddy Lee himself:
>About Fly By Night: "I used the Rickenbacker(4001) on every track.  On 
>one song called 'By-Tor and the Snow Dog', a fantasy tune that 
>featured a charactor representing evil and a charactor representing good, I 
>was given the role of By-Tor, the evil one.  And I developed an 
>interesting sound--there's a monster sound that sort of growls around 
>during one really chaotic musical segment.  I put my Fender bass 
>through a fuzztone--I can't remember what kind--and then into the 
>board(mixing board).  It was distored all to shit, so we added 
>phasing, and ultimetly put in everything but the kitchen sink.  I had 
>all that sound going through a volume pedal, so everytime the monster 
>was supposed to growl, I would lean on the volume pedal.  When we fit 
>it into the song, it sounded like a real monster!"
>There....that is from an honest-to-God interview with Geddy.  I'm not 
>making this up and several people here on the NMS have already backed me 
>up on this. 

Add me to the list - I have the original interview in Guitar Player magazine
  there's also an interview with Alex in the same issue.  Your quote is
quite accurate.

Chad Mitchell

"Doctors get to bury their mistakes, Architects can only advise their client
to plant vines."
						-Frank Lloyd Wright
NOW PLAYING:  Spock's Beard - "The Kindness of Strangers"


From: Steve and Kim Thompson 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 00:18:11 -0400
Subject: Rush = Iron Maiden

This could be an interesting new thread.  A friend of mine who I have made a
Rushian out of has been trying forever to get me to listen to Iron Maiden.
"I'm telling you, man, it is just like Rush.  They are the same!"

Well, to date I have listened to one Maiden album, Powerslave.  I think the
album is outstanding, but I don't see much similarity to Rush.  I think
Maiden falls somewhere between Queensryche and Dream Theater from what I
have heard.  Of course, those bands are widely said to be similar to Rush as

The biggest difference is that they have two guitars and not a whole lot of
emphasis on bass.  Secondly, the lyrics, while interesting, are very violent
and much less intellectual than I think of Rush.  Thirdly, I think the
entire Powerslave album is in 4-4 time, with no variance - something Rush
would never do (Roll the Bones notwithstanding).

The biggest similarity?  They do a song based on a Samual Coleridge poem -
The Rime of theAncient Mariner.

Now, like I have said, I think Powerslave is a great album and I'm certain
to listen to more, but are there any Maiden fans out there who would like to
comment on the statement "Maiden is just like Rush!".  Obviously they are
not identical, but I dno't really hear many similarities at all.



From: Chad Mitchell 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:21:14 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: radio

>Dear fellow Rushians, 
>>From the last several years, I have heard tons of Rush on the radio.  There is
>a station here in Maine Called WTOS, they have a DJ nick named "The Rush Man,"
>and three times a day, You have "The Rush Hour" where each set is started and
>ended with a Rush song.

KMOD in Tulsa, OK has a weekly "Rush Hour", where they play nothing but Rush
for one hour.

Sadly, I live in Okla. City. where we get an hour of Metallica.  Oy, Oy,

Chad Mitchell

"Doctors get to bury their mistakes, Architects can only advise their client
to plant vines."
						-Frank Lloyd Wright
NOW PLAYING:  Spock's Beard - "The Kindness of Strangers"


From: "Chris Palo" 
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:23:46 PDT
Subject: The Live compilation

Dear fellow Rushians,

Summer is upon us (well most of us anyways) and you know what that 
means: work, work and more work.  Well, in the space of 7 hours when I'm 
not working I need something new to listen to.  When is that new live 
album supposed to come out?  I know this was a discussion topic about a  
month ago.  Is there any new information?



"Is a fly without wings called a walk?"--anonymous 


From: "Aaron Calder" 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:23:59 MDT7MST
Subject: 2112

The 2112th issue should be a compilation of all the posts that contain 
suggestions about what the 2112th issue should contain.

Aaron Calder


From: "Erik 'Starblazer' Stearns" 
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:52:05 -0500
Subject: Question about keyboard setups and looking for rare CD's

Hey guys,

	I'm back in black with vengence and the creative juices are flowing. 
Now that I've moved into my OWN new place and am pretty much settled,
I'm getting back into the music business.  Since my consulting career
took off, I decided to take advantage of it and invest in a keyboard
setup for jam and stage use. 

	I'm looking at an Alesis QS7 with an expandable rack both for
additional keyboards and rack mounts, 32 mb of ram and the ventage
PCMCIA expansion card for the prog sounds like the Hamond B-3, etc.  The
amp I am also looking at is an Alesis RA-100 stereo amp with .7 stereo
reference monitors.  The thing I was wanting to know is What do Geddy
Lee and Kevin Moore use.

	Also I'm replacing some CDs the exbitch stole.  I was wondering if
anyone knows where I can score a copy of these:  Saga's Worlds Appart,
Autograph's first self titled release, and Taking On The World by Gun. 
Anybody know?

Thanks in advance,


	An Open mind is the thriving of a society while 
the closed mind is the downfall of the same.  For 
in Saroks's words, "The spear in the others's heart 
is the spear in your own.  You are he."

 - From the "Freedom" Speech to Larion's Congress

Erik Stearns
StarBlazer Enterprises Inc.
Fax:  (512)719-1066


From: "dean stahl" 
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:59:32 PDT
Subject: A Farewell To CDs

On Thursday, May 28th, some desperate fool broke into my car and stole 
every CD I had.  I took them with me that night to the computer lab at 
school to work on my webpage.  The next morning, I discovered that all 
of my CD Folders were taken.  The police have a report, but, really, 
what can be done?  

I admit I was wrong to leave them in my car, but now, I must bear the 
loss of all of my Rush CDs as well as all of ther other great music in 
my collection. 

This was just a heartfelt little note to say how much I miss my Rush CDs 
and can hope someday I can afford them again.



From: Paul Hightower 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:50:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: 06/01/98 - The National Midnight Star #2044

"Aaron Calder"  wrote...

>I am a big fan of Rush and Dream Theater.  I've heard a lot of
>positive talk about Marillion on this mailing list and I want to go
>and check them out.  Which Albums should I check out first?

>P.S. How do you pronounce Marillion?
>Does it rhyme with Chameleon?

No, it's pronounced  . It's short for Silmarillion, the
Tolkien book.
Marillion is kind of a mixed bag but basically it all comes down to two
choices: Fish (original singer) or Steve Hogarth (current singer). This is
the band that pretty much single handedly invented the neo-prog style so
often imitated. Much of their very early work was somewhat patterned after
Peter Gabriel-era Genesis and gradually matured and evolved over the course
of the 4 albums Fish was on ('83-'88). These are considered more "proggy"
than current Marillion which is much more song-oriented with Steve Hogarth.
It's kinda like comparing Permanent Waves period Rush to current Rush. To
hard core fans it's all good but you'll run into some people who prefer the
old over the new.
Fish, as a singer, can take some getting used to if you've never heard him
before. His vocals are somewhat lyrically dense and there's times you want
him to just shut up. Hogarth is technically a better singer though some
feel he lacks Fish's lyrical inventiveness and bite.
Recommendations? I think there's a decent sampler available you may want to
check out just cuz they've been around a long time. My guess is you'll
prefer the earlier stuff, probably Clutching At Straws or Fugazi.


Paul Hightower
Studio H
Art Direction and Graphic Design
6953 Chantel Court
San Jose, CA 95129


From: (StarScape International)
Date: Mon,  1 Jun 98 22:40:47 PST
Subject: Re: Rush on boats

Seems like I saw a shot once, but the closest thing I have is a 6' Tama Drums
banner featuring Neil floating down a river somewheres, wailing on the skins.
He's on some sort of raft, drumkit and all, right out in the water. Very cool.

And getting older every day.
Thomas Puckett Advertising, Inc. - 702.798.5300, Main - 702.798.7772, Fax


From: "Alex Smith" 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:15:07 -0700
Subject: Marillion Recommendations

Man, Marillion kicks ass! get any of the albums with singer/lyricist Fish
(later albums have a sappy guy named Steve Hogarth singing and
writing...uggh). The albums with Fish are:

Script for a Jester's Tear (1983)
Fugazi (1984)
Misplaced Childhood (1985)
Clutching at Straws (1987)

Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws are AWESOME, but the other two
are really good too. There's a single which came out in '82, I think, called
"Market Square Heroes" which has an awesome Genesis-esque 19-minute song
called "Grendel," but "MSH" is going to be almost impossible to find.

FYI, Fish is a pissed-off, drunked Scot who sounds like a Phil Collins with
too much 'lager'--in other words AWESOME!!! much better than Hogarth....

Sorry for lack of rush content, but, you know...

Alex Smith


From: "Alex Smith" 
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:21:29 -0700
Subject: rush on the radio

Rush on KLPX, 96.1 in Tucson, AZ:

* means lots

Tom Sawyer*
Roll the Bones*
Red Barchetta*
Spirit of Radio*
Test for Echo*
Working Man
Fly By Night
Making Memories !?
2112 (the whole thing, at 3:00 AM!)
Something for Nothing
Closer to the Heart
The Trees
New World Man
Distant Early Warning
Big Money
Force Ten
Show Don't Tell
Ghost of a Chance
Stick It Out
Nobody's Hero
Half the World
Time and Motion

Alex Smith


From: Sean Carroll/Katherine Moore 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 01:39:25 -0600
Subject: Burning for Geddy

Thanks to everyone who's answered (so far) my Ged's basses questions.
I'm actually asking them for a couple correspondents of mine who seem to
know everything *else* about Ged's gear.

So, no Steinberger on New World Man and no 4003 at all? I coulda sworn I
saw a post a while back right here saying something about the 4003 used
somewhere or other by Ged, but I'll go with the aforementioned unless
someone cares to dispute it.

Sean Carroll


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 01:33:52 -0700
Subject: stuff

> (Tim Hart)said:
> Augmenting the sound of the recording
>with equalizers and the like seem like trodding thru the
>sanctity of the recording without respect for the originators.
>It was intended to be heard the way it was recorded because
>they felt it was perfect. Maybe the first suspect might be the

The room's acoustics have an effect on things.  That is the purpose of
an equalizer.

>Scott McDow said:
>Mike Z. stood by his words: (re: kazoo)
>>Nope.  I've made a few booboos lately,
>>but I stand by this one:  THAT IS MAS-
>I'll bow to the technical experts on this one.
>Only thing is, it seems like a lot of work just
>to make your guitar sound like a kazoo! :^)

Actually, it's very easy in a studio.  Doing it at home is not hard. 
Doing both parts at once requires a serious stereo rig and/or mixing board.
Got a friend with guitar gear? have him max everything out on gain and
turn up the treble.

>>Well im just woundering,listning to the end of
>>Cygnus X-1 book one you can hear some
>>heartbeats or? Someone who knows?

>Must be album or cassette. The heartbeats didn't
>make the CD version. Are they on the remaster CD?

I can hear them on my CD.  Remember Ged's advice on the first album? 
"For best results play at maximum volume."

"This sounds like rock and or roll."  Reverend Lovejoy--The Simpsons. 
And the Elephant god is Ganesha


From: Ryosuke Yasuhara 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 17:06:41 +0900
Subject: Re:T-shirt hunt, PeW drum overdub?, Kids-n-Rush

>and, of course, to spread the Rush word. Few people here in Japan know
>about Rush (they NEVER tour here) and when we toured New Zealand and

In fact there are not so many, but there are some who really love 
their music, like me!
And Rush DID tour once in Japan back in 1984.

   [ That reminds me, thanks to Jim Wright there's now a front & back picture
     of a flier for when Rush played Tokyo! Check the tour dates listing,
     and click on the link for that date.                      : rush-mgr ]


From: (Robert Stanovich)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 10:30:59 -0700
Subject: Natural Science Drum "Overdub" &  A Boat Pic!

Hello All,
     Someone asked if it was possible to nail a "third arm part" such as
in the last verse of "Hyperspace" within "Natural Science."  The answer
is, YES.
     Neil is playing 32nd-notes between the hi-hats and the ride cymbal,
striking the downbeat with his RIGHT hand.  Now that you mention
could sound suspect for an overdub. we all know, Neil is
infamous for laying down ENTIRE drum tracks for an album within 3 to 5
days.  I imagine it took him longer in those days...though he is a
purist in the studio...careful to record what can be played live.  He
used that pattern for the song during the "Test For Echo" tour.
>...And there IS actually a picture of Rush on a boat(Neil's sloop, I
believe).  It is Geddy and Neil, exchanging helmsman duties.  I forget
which page in Visions(the picture is grainy and in black-and-white).


From: "George Rogic" 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 14:20:21 +0000
Subject: Re: Another Hair-Brained Idea for the 2112 Issue...

>How about just a 'wishlist' of what we fans would like to see in the =
>future for Rush and their music?  Nothing long.  Maybe just bullet =
>points.  Maybe add a personal 'Hello' and 'Best Wishes' to the Guys.  =
>After the issue is out. Send a printed copy to each of the bandmembers.  =
>Sort of a 'thank you' direct from us!

Actually, we did do something like that for the band's 20 year
anniversary... I should know, I laid it out. It was supposed to be put
together by another list member and delivered to Anthem. To those of you who
are around who were also involved  does anyone have a clue as to what
happened to this little showing appreciation?



From: Ken MacRae 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 15:18:10 -0400
Subject: Geddy Spice

Hey,  Geddy to replace Ginger ... what about it ?

Who's your favourite spice ? 

Okay. Long time no post. However, the kids on
Rush thread has dragged me out of lurkville.

Despite my persistent and best efforts, my
seven year old daughter has become a Spice
Girl fan.  Oh the pain.  You have to understand
that I didn't necessarily want her to become a
Rush fan ... I simply wanted her to make up her
own mind rather than mindlessly follow the
hoardes and all that pop drivel that gets
endlessly thrown at you.  The power of
marketing indeed.  And now she's a spice girl
fan... the Fabrictaed Five (err four).     
My 3 year old son parties to everything from
Barney to Spice Girls to Black Sabbath. 

However last night the family had a Rush
Let me go back .... 

This moment traces back to Sunday's golf
round.  My buddy reached the green in two
shots on a long par 5.  I thought to myself 
"Superman".  Then,  instantly, for some
unknown reason, I began singing the line
"Superman, in super Nature
Needs all the comfort he can find
Spontaneous emotion
And the long enduring kind" ... you know the

So I have been harbouring a desire to hear that
tune since Sunday.  Last night while the kids
were in the tub I fired her up ... loud you might

The kids arrived out 7 minutes later in time for
"Totem",  which happens to be a family fave. 
We then went through Driven, Half the World,
and Colour of Right.  I was lead and rythm
guitars, my daughter was percussion,  and my 3
year old wild man was the body surfing mosh
pit fan kinda guy.  The wife worked the lighting
board ...err switch.

Ahhh, it's nice to get the kids off the Spice
Girls for a brief diversion.

>... Ken, the Rushosapien

"I was only a boy then.  Now I'm only a man"
>... Pink Floyd


From: "Gary and Rhonda" 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:46:23 -0500
Subject: Rush on the Radio

I live in central Wisconsin and there is one radio station that kicks ass
WMZK 104.1 FM out of Merill !!!
They are the only station here with any guts!!!!
They will play just about anything
The format is bassically "Ozzy, Sabbath, Scorpions, Motley Crue, Ratt,.
Tesla, etc. etc......
Recently they have brought groups like Great White, Sebastian Bach,
Slaughter, Cinderella,
and the play at this place called Elys Mile High Club...
I know that these bands are a bit outdated but hey ....nobody around here
is complaining...
This radio station plays Rush alot(THANK GOD)
Songs I've heard: Finding my Way, Working Man, Fly By Night, Anthem,
Bastille Day,
2112(overture&temple), Something For Nothing, The Trees, Closer To The
Heart, Freewill,
The Spirit Of Radio, Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, Limelight, Subdivisions,
New World Man,
The Big Money, Time Stand Still, Force 10, Show Dont Tell, Superconductor,
Stick It Out,
Cold Fire, Driven, Test For Echo, Roll The Bones, Dreamline.

Thank You WMZK for having the guts to play what nobody else around here

Up here in the (almost)Northwoods not much happens!!!
Stevens Point Wisconsin


From: Andy VanFossen 
Date: Tue,  2 Jun 98 13:59:12 -0500
Subject: Re-recorded Vocals on _A Show of Hands_?

I've heard it mentioned that Geddy re-recorded some or all of the vocals on 
_A Show of Hands_.  What's the story with this?


 Andy Van Fossen 
 Chicago, IL


Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:03:16 -0700
Subject: Re: 06/01/98 - The National Midnight Star #2044

>From: (Chris Checchia)
>Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 00:13:02 -0400
>Subject: Power Windows
>Just wondering if anyone has seen the tribute band "Power Windows" as
>they are playing near my home next week.Is it worth the trip?

	I guess that the tribute band Subdivisions does a decent job.  



Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:04:54 -0700
Subject: Re: 06/01/98 - The National Midnight Star #2044

>From: Joe Lynch 
>Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 00:11:00 -0700
>Subject: bare naked ladies
>Thanks to everyone who recommended the Bare Naked Ladies. I had the
>opportunity to see them yesterday (3 songs acoustically performed at
>work for our sales group) and loved their music.
>Unfortunately, no Rush covers. Oh well, maybe next time.

	Wow..  They did a private show for your company?  Cool.
	I saw them a while back on a set of tickets that I won off of a
local radio station.  They are wonderful performers.



From: (Craig Brennan)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:07:30 -0400
Subject: RE: Another Hair-Brained Idea for the 2112 Issue...

>How about just a 'wishlist'

I have another one. How 'bout we use issue 2112 to retire some of the
subjects that have been lurking around the NMS for way too long. Kinda'
like they do in sports with their jersey numbers. Once it's retired you
can't use it again.

Subjects I'd like to see retired are:
        -  Neil has/doesn't have cancer
        -  Rush are/are not satan worshipers
        -  What's the sound in YYZ
        -  The morality, legality and ethics of bootlegging


"boredom is the historic nature of mankind to blindly repeat itself" - me

   [ Just remember, they are DOGS BARKING.


From: (David Whiteman)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 15:38:54 -0400
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP! - "Narpets" meaning needed (#2045)

> Hi, any of you could tell me the meaning of "Narpets"? I'm one of the guys
> translating all the lyrics to spanish.

They intentionally scrambled the word "parents".  I believe this is in
the FAQ.

   [ In other words, the word itself has no meaning. I would suggest treat
     it like a proper name don't translate it.                 : rush-mgr ]

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