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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2047

                 Wednesday, 03 Jun 1998

Today's Topics:
                   nothing to important
                     Geddy's brother
         Primus : 1.1 on Richter scale ! ! ! ! !
                      Ticket scans..
                    Re: Visions Update
                      Power Windows
                   Didacts and Narpets
                   'Visions' of CD-ROMS
                     Re: 4001 vs 4003
                 You say 4001, I say 4003
                From the mouths of babes.
                    Between Sun & Moon
                    More Kids and Rush
                   Updated Visions book
                   Re: Neil look-alike 
                  Kids and Rush Sighting
          TFE tour attendance (or lack thereof)
       Re-recorded lyrics on E...SL?    FAKES??????
                     UNDERATED ALBUM!
         re:  Caroline's "Your own Red Barchetta"
                      Kids and Rush
             re: drumming on Natural Science
                  Re: Rush = Iron Maiden
              Re: Marillion Recommendations
                      Rush on Radio
                  Communist Satanists!!!
                Re: My own Red Barchetta.
       Iron Maiden, Metallica, flies and Marillion
   ged on kazoo, alex on violin, neil on party whistle
                 Re: Election Night 1998
                      rush on boats
              RE: If You're RED your're DEAD
                Most underrated thread...
                    Rush on the Radio
                    The Red Barchetta
                     Rush=Iron Maiden

From: "Catherine Brissette" 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 12:41:33 PDT
Subject: radio

Hey everybody

just had to add my voice to all the Seattlites...KISW pretty much rocks, 
plays tons of Rush...the best is hearing "2112 Overture" and "Temples" 
during, ahem, the evening rush hour. Though yesterday's afternoon DJ 
started *talking* during the end of "Red Bachetta"! 
*gasp* sacrilege! ;)
And when the radio alarm went off at 5:22am today, something loud and 
heavy greeted me, though it took my sleepy brain several seconds to 
recognize it as "Working Man". ahhh... :)



From: (Chuck Flowers)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:58:02 -0500
Subject: nothing to important

>The bill included Rush, Foghat, Pat Travers, Billy Thorpe, Little River
Band and others (somewhere 
>at home I've got the t-shirt with all the bands listed).

Ahahah, People Of The Su-un


From: Jessica Winkworth 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:56:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Geddy's brother


In #2044, Scott McDow wrote:

>Jack said about Ged's movie hobby (re: superman)
>>That's a mighty familiar name on the tour credits ...
>>Alan Weinrib
>Well.  I've never noticed that before.  *Is* he blood?
>Too much of coincidence not to be.

Yep, that's his brother.  I actually saw him on a video countdown about a 
month ago.  At first I thought he WAS Geddy, they look so alike.  The 
host of the show was interviewing him because she was touring his 
company, Revolver Films (at least I think it's his company -- I can't 
remember whether he owns it or if he's just one of the head honchos).  
The company's website is at  It reveals that, 
surprise surprise, Allan has worked on some Rush videos :-)



From: Dirk van Maanen 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:20:18 -0700
Subject: Primus : 1.1 on Richter scale ! ! ! ! !

Hi there !

In Holland, every year we have a festival called pink-pop, in
a small town called Landgraaf.
Rush played there during their Hemispheres periode.
Last weekend Primus played in front of 60.000 people at Pink-pop.
What happened ? 60.000 people go nuts, jumping up and down, and 
the Meteoroligic institute registered an earth-quake 1.1 on 
the Richter scale, with it's epic centre at Landgraaf, during
Primus' performance, at Pink-pop ! ! ! !

Let's see Rush doing that !  (I'm NOT a Primus fan, but this is
unique ! ! ! )

Dirk, Haarlem


From: "Daniel Ware" 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:22:32 -0600
Subject: Ticket scans..

Hey again..
Oh mighty goddess Rush-mgr, do you have a scan of the Dallas Counterparts
show. If not I can mail it to ya, seeing as I have no scanner..Let me know..
Dan in NM

   [ Check the tourdates listing, if there's no link then I don't have it!
                                                               : rush-mgr ]


From: "George Rogic" 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:34:03 +0000
Subject: Re: Visions Update

>  In NMS # 2043 Greg Sanderson posted that it was about time that B-man do 
>an updated vewrsion of the biographical book Visions. For those who didn't 
>know B-man and the band are no longer considered friends. When the band was 
>getting ready to release Hold Your Fire they had a.llowed B-man to preview 
>it  and he took it upon himself to leak it out to his radio audience 
>without the bands permission. In short B-man blew it and will not be 
>authorised to do an updated book by the band. 

Upon reading the book, I found it ironic that a high caliber band such as
Rush would allow such juvenile, idealistic writing to be published as *the*
biography about the band. Heck, maybe they really *would* allow me to
produce their next disc!

What needs to happen is for Neil to sit down and take the time to do it
justice -- we all know he can write. :-)



From: Grand Designs 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:27:35 -0700
Subject: Power Windows

Concerning the tribute band Power Windows:

I've never seen them live but my younger brother has (twice) and after
seeing them the first time he came over to tell me that it was the best
imitation of Rush you could imagine. The vocalist had Geddy's voice down
pat and the guitars, bass and drums sounded identical to the gear the
boys use.

In fact... he went so far as to say that if you closed your eyes, you
couldn't tell any differences between Power Windows and a live Rush CD.

Against the run of the mill
Static as it seems
We break the surface tension
With our wild, kinetic dreams

Visit the Grand Designs Rush Site


From: "Daniel Ware" 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:39:30 -0600
Subject: Uberman...

Hey gang..
Great thread. I don't know if this has been stated but Nietzsche's vision
was of the "Uberman," which translates into Superman. I studies Nietzsche in
high school, and don't exactly remember all that went into the thought, but
I'm pretty darn sure he did coin the word.
Cheers from New Mexico.


From: "Flynn, Jason R" 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:44:47 -0500 
Subject: Didacts and Narpets

>Martin Urionaguena  wrote:
>Hi, any of you could tell me the meaning of "Narpets"? I'm one of the guys
>translating all the lyrics to spanish.
>Thank you very much
>                 Martin
>          Buenos Aires, Argentina

Neil has suggested that you play anagrams to figure out what it means.
You can do that if you would want Neil to be proud of your effort, or
you can just read on below for the answer:

Change the letters of Narpets and you get Parents.  Didacts, coming from
"didactic" (the same in French, possibly the same in Spanish?) means
teachers.  So Didacts & Narpets is Teachers and Parents.  I hope this
helps.  I doubt you'll be able to translate an anagram into spanish and
still make it relevant, but good luck.



From: (Jack Mevorah)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:57:22 -0400
Subject: 'Visions' of CD-ROMS

greg cormier queries:

> I'd love to see an updated book but I'm not sure who would write it
> beyond the members of the band themselves. Anyone have any ideas
> on who the band would entrust with such a personal undertaking ?

I think you got it ... the band themselves.  Didn't I hear/read of a CD-ROM
in the works by the guys -- with history etc?  If I recall it was in response to
a question about enchanced CD's and Neil said he preferred something more
than just tacking a video onto the CD ... something more substantial.

anyone?  anyone?



From: "George Rogic" 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:40:37 +0000
Subject: Re: 4001 vs 4003

>He didn't.  He used a Rickenbacker 4001, not a 4003.  The difference?  Back
>then the 4001 was wired for "Rick-O-Sound" Stereo and the 4003 was mono.

I used to own a 4003. Black w/white trim... it WAS wired for "Rick-O-Sound"
Stereo. As I recall, when I asked the guy in the store what was the
difference (because I wanted what Geddy was using) between the two, he said
that the 4001's frets/neck were made to accommodate flat-wound strings, not
round-wound. He said the round-wounds caused a lot of wear and tear on the
frets and fret board and the 4003 was made with round-wounds in mind.

The only people who could really tell you the real truth are Rickenbacker,
which does have a website.



From: (Jack Mevorah)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 17:19:00 -0400
Subject: You say 4001, I say 4003

Brian M. Beck says of Ged and the 4003:

> He didn't.  He used a Rickenbacker 4001, not a 4003.
> The difference?  Back then the 4001 was wired for "Rick-O-Sound"
> Stereo and the 4003 was mono.

The difference, actually, is in the neck construction.  The 4001 was
built for flat-wound strings ... less tension than round-wounds.  The
4003 was a response to the market -- roundwound or die!

Both are wired for stereo (Rick-O-Sound) with an additional mono

They are, otherwise, exactly the same.  (Although I did notice, way back
when that the pickguard was not one-piece on the 4003, but split at the
'bulb' leading to the control knobs).



From: (Jack Mevorah)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 17:25:59 -0400
Subject: From the mouths of babes.

Stephanie Reigh told:

> FUNNY STORY: I was in my kitchen, and we were ready to eat grilled
> chicken. My brother, sister, and dad were all at the table. I had a fork
> and knife in my hands, and for some odd reason I started to tap out the
> bell (or whatever... don't bother telling me what it is) beginning in
> YYZ. My brother and sister suddenly went, in unison, "denenant nant de
> ne ne nant nant..." (the guitar) I just laughed...

hahahaha ... does she know Rush fans, or what?

"(or whatever... don't bother telling me what it is)" ... I think she's
talking to me!?  :-)



From: "Adrian Cagnani" 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:08:36 -0300
Subject: Between Sun & Moon

Hello Rushians !
Greetings from Brazil, a country where Rush never played. 
Did you know that the biggest brazilian newspaper ("Folha de So Paulo")
intervewied about two thousand people who went in several concerts, and
asked them what band they would like to see playing in Brasil ?
Rush was the second answer, right after U2. U2, that hateful, horrible,
popful, ridicule band, came in March for shows in So Paulo and Rio de
Janeiro, but Rush...
I have a question. Does anybody happen to know the meaning of the folowing
verse of Between Sun & Moon of CP : 
"ahh yes to yes to ahh to yes
why the sun why the sun"
I can't find the connection with the rest of the lyrics, and can't figure
out what Neil means with that. Help would be appreciated. Thank you.


From: Bytor 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:19:24 -0600
Subject: More Kids and Rush

My one year-old prefers Mozart, 50's music and big band to Rush hands
down.  This is despite (or possibly because of?) my wife and I having
been to five TFE shows while she was pregnant.  He does dance like made
to any drumming though, so the Rhythm Method is a go.  
Constantly seeking better beer.


Date: Fri, 29 May 98 8:07:29 EDT
Subject: Updated Visions book

I wish to make a public apology to Suzanne, aka, aka I help her with the hordes of mail she gets sometimes, and I
mistakenly posted MY opinion of the book "Visions" under her screen name. As a
result, SHE received a very, VERY nasty email from someone purporting to be
Bill Banasciewicz. 

I just want everyone to know that the opinion as follows from NMS #2044 --

 - is *MINE*, not hers, and I once again publicly apologize to her for the

BTW, I'm not the only one who mentioned B-man's unauthorized release of


  In NMS # 2043 Greg Sanderson posted that it was about time that B-man do 
an updated vewrsion of the biographical book Visions. For those who didn't 
know B-man and the band are no longer considered friends. When the band was 
getting ready to release Hold Your Fire they had a.llowed B-man to preview 
it  and he took it upon himself to leak it out to his radio audience 
without the bands permission. In short B-man blew it and will not be 
authorised to do an updated book by the band.>>

Yet this supposed B-man person INSISTS he never did any such thing. Can
someone confirm/deny the story about the HYF tapes and send me a source? 

Thanks, hope this makes a difference. And if anyone wants to see that nasty
mail, just let me know. I'll be more than happy to send it along. But it's
too... hell, it's just plain EVIL if you ask me, and cruel too, to post here. 

Again, thanks for listening. 



From: Slim Jim 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 19:50:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Neil look-alike 

>>>>> writes:
>   This may be a dead topic, but how about Steve Hackett (ex-Genesis
>   guitarist) playing Neil in the Rush movie?

That would be great!  Then maybe Neil could play Steve Hackett in
a Genesis movie!  

> Although Hackett may need some acting lessons before tackling the
> role...

Not to mention drumming lessons.. and I guess Neil would probably
need some guitar lessons.

Slim :)


Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:59:51 EDT
Subject: Kids and Rush Sighting

I have written about my 9 year old Rush fan, Cory, before on here. He is a
great kid and believes he is the next Neil Peart (he actually is a great
little drummer). Tonight he called me into the TV room yelling, "Mommy...come
here quick...they're playing RUSH!". As it turns out, he was watching the
hockey game on ESPN (Buffalo v. Washington) and they were playing Freewill.
Cory and I sang along till they cut it off to get back to the game. Soon after
(within a minute), Buffalo scored (Cory's choice in the game). Do I have a
cool kid or what?

Anyone else watching this game? Cool, eh?



Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:38:23 -0700
Subject: TFE tour attendance (or lack thereof)

>   [ The problem with this past tour is it wasn't promoted much (in a lot of
>     cities it wasn't advertised AT ALL!) and I guess a lot of Rush fans
>     just didn't know about the tour.                          : rush-mgr ]

Exactly!  If not for TNMS, I don't know when I would've heard about the
tour.  I know several people who went only because they heard via the net.
The local paper didn't mention it until the week of, and coming up with $40
and a ride in just a couple of days is, for many people, a bit much...

Maybe the NEXT tour (hint to Rush's management) will be well-advertised.  I
have missed Rush in the past because I just didn't hear about it...



From: "Remis Ramos" 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 20:48:52 CLT
Subject: Re-recorded lyrics on E...SL?    FAKES??????

     Hi rushians everywhere!

              I insist, I heard a little voice in my cd when played the 
Beneath, between & behind with karaoke. That was the same first line, 
but sang in a different way. I don't want to be disappointed, I think 
that Ged is the best bass player in the world. But... can he sing and 
play perfectly alive? In the ASOH video, in the intro of 2112 Alex play 
a Black guitar, and also appears images with the white one... and it 
happen in several songs. Fakes?
                                        Remis, The Chilean Ged.


From: "Jan Estling" 
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 00:49:55 +0200

Rushn Roll to you all !

Underated rush album "greg".

Well i think that COS is the most
underated, for me its one o f the best.
It has the most dynamic Rush songs,
with the spectra of...beaty...mysty...aggressive..

Fun memory! (some memory last for ever..)

In Sweden we celebrate midsummer around 20 of june
In 1980 i was at an outdoor danceplace with a trio
playing old swedish folksongs ...dancing "hambo"
and jazzy dances etc...well ..we youngsters had a
big taperecorder that we played when the "power trio"
had a break....It was a various sort of music...,
when "THE SPIRIT OF RADIO"..was played
a couple in the age of    70  !!!!  were dancing
a type of swedish folkdance to it....we laughed til we
started crying it was so fun to watch.....end...

>....There is no wrong places for RUSH music!!!

Thats all for today!........just! one more...

Im in motion
I am still
I am crying
I am still
Im together
I`m forever
At the start

Still...I am

swederusher "lex rushon"


Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 21:50:24 EDT
Subject: re:  Caroline's "Your own Red Barchetta"

>From: Caroline in the City 
>Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 20:12:58 -0500
>Subject: Your own Red Barchetta
>Hello fellow Rush freaks!
>I've been corresponding with a fellow NMS'er (Hi, Tom!!), and 
>we discussed a thread that I thought would be kind-of fun. How many 
>NMS'ers have their own Red Barchetta? I recently bought mine...a 1995 red 
>Mazda Miata. It's my graduation present to myself. And the first song I 
>played in the tape deck? Guess...
>   [ The co-rush-mgr owns a red '94 Toyota Celica :-)   Me, I get a 
>     gray van! hee hee                                       : rush-mgr ]

Hello fellow NMS'ers!

It's been a long time since I've written into the NMS.  I think it's been
since after Rush had played The Rose Garden in Portland, OR on May 14th, 1997.
The sixth and final show I saw on the 96-97 Test For Echo tour!

Anyways, I stumbled upon this thread.  I'd love to add my two cents worth.  I
purchased a "red barchetta" recently!  It's a 1998 Volkswagen Jetta Wolfsburg
Limited Edition.  I bought it at my local Volkswagen dealer in the greater Los
Angeles, CA area in April.  Love the car and in my 6 disc CD changer is Rush
of course!

Hoang Dinh
aka Wonger

"He's got a star map of Hollywood..a list of cheap motels..all along the
freeway." - Dreamline (Lee, Lifeson, Peart)


From: "Marc S. Bellavia" 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:10:11 -0400
Subject: Kids and Rush

Hello all,

My girlfriend's daughter, age 6, is now a big Rush.  I have a 10 CD =
changer in my car, and she is always asking to hear Rush.  First it was =
Closer to the Heart, then it was A Distant Early Warning, and now I am =
"rediscovering" Test for Echo, because she wants to hear Half the World =
or Totem.  She announces the songs after the first few beats!!!  I think =
she knows the songs and their titles better than I do!!!  As I type =
this, I am listening to Caress of Steel.  Her thoughts on this =
album..."That's really great music." =20

I would never have thought this possible... A six year old Rush fan!!!  =
There is still hope for the kids of today!

Marc S. Bellavia
aka By-Tor II


From: Grand Designs 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:19:08 -0700
Subject: re: drumming on Natural Science

>>> He's alternating between the ride bell and hi-hat. One hand on the
>>> ride, the other on the hi-hat. When it's time for the snare drum,
>>> his right hand comes off the cymbal for the hit, then right back
>>> to the cymbal. It's 32nd notes, so it washes together nicely
>>> giving the impression the two cymbals are being played at the same time.

damn straight! He does a simliar "simultaneous high-hat/ride cymbal
thing" during the beginning of Subdivisions (about 20 seconds into it)

Against the run of the mill
Static as it seems
We break the surface tension
With our wild, kinetic dreams

Visit the Grand Designs Rush Site


From: Raj M 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:36:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Rush = Iron Maiden

Hey there,

I have every Rush and Iron Maiden album.  I've listened to both bands since
the early 80s.  A few similarities:

have songs called 'Twilight Zone'  
have songs based on Colerige poems : 'Xanadu' - 'Ancient Mariner'
mention the Enola Gay in songs : 'Manhattan Project' - 'Holy Smoke'
songs influenced by sci-fi : '2112' - 'To Tame A Land', etc...
songs influenced by historical events : 'Red Sector A' - 'The Trooper', etc...
have great bass players : Lee - Harris

The major differences:

different countries of origin : Canada - England
different type of lineup : trio - 5 piece dual guitars
different styles : Hard/Progressive Rock - Heavy Metal/Headbanging 

Rush has the same lineup since '74, Maiden has always had a revolving door
lineup (only Steve Harris and Dave Murray remain constants)

Maiden is basically washed up, Rush is still going strong.

I think the major difference between lyric styles is that Peart has a more
mature writing style than Harris or the other guys.  Growing up listening to
both bands, I definitely relate more to Rush songs now that I'm older.
Maiden songs were geared more towards that teen-age metal crowd.  I'm not
saying they were anything like those cheezy 80s metal bands (i.e. Quiet
Riot, Ratt).  Their songs have some good content, but they're written in a
simpler manner.

I still listen to the older Maiden albums every once in a while, but the
band has degraded since Adrian Smith left.  If anyone wants to check em out,
I recommend : Iron Maiden, Killers, Number Of The Beast, Piece Of Mind,
Powerslave , Somewhere In Time, Seventh Son ..., & Live After Death.  The
rest of stuff isn't worth listening to.

Anyway, that's just my opinion.  


From: "Alex Smith" 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:37:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Marillion Recommendations

> There's a single which came out in '82, I think, called
> "Market Square Heroes" which has an awesome Genesis-esque 19-minute >
song called "Grendel," but "MSH" is going to be almost impossible to find.

just thought I'd throw my two cents in here... 

If you want to find "Grendel", just get the B-sides CD called "B'sides

>..and just to show you how sick *I* am, I first heard Grendel via midi and
LOVED it.. and bought "B'sides Themselves" soley based on that one listen!

Michael Mejido - (
NY/NJ MetroStars TAXI Fanzine -
NOW PLAYING:  Pink Floyd - "Meddle"


From: brogdene 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:55:05 -0400
Subject: Caps!

Well, they lost the game, but they played Rush as a filler whilst
waiting for a face-off. Just one more reason the Sabres are gonna lose
this series. :-)

ed brogden


Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 00:11:57 EDT
Subject: Rush on Radio

I am kind of enjoying reading what Rush is played on everybody's stations.
So I wanted to relate this:
I have been a Rush fan since I was about 6 years old (and heard Tom Sawyer).
Having the severely limited finances of your typical grade school student,  I
had two Rush tapes.  One was Permanent Waves, the other was a tape of every
time I heard Rush on the radio.  As far as I remember, it had 
Tom Sawyer
The Spirit of Radio
LakeSide Park

So that is a list of Rush heard on the radio (by me) from 1980ish to 1985ish.
I wish I still had that tape.  But some bastard stole my tape collection about
5 years ago.   Hey, buddy, if you are on this list - you stink.


"God is Dead" - Nietzsche
"Nietzsche is Dead" - God


From: "Alex Smith" 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 21:12:13 -0700
Subject: Communist Satanists!!!


we've been listening to a bunch of Communist Satan Worshippers!!! and they
must be skinheads too because they're Going Bald!!!  oh my god, they're
Losing It!!! and they're watching me with their Emotion Detector and they're
going to poison Florida with a Red Tide!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we've all been tricked along!

quick, must find my Celine Dion and Spice Girls to counteract these evil
commies! red! red everywhere! National Midnight Star! Star! rush-mgr, you're
a Communist too!!!

"Are you, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party?"

uhhhhhhhh never mind.
that was just the product of a delusional mind!

i hope!

currently in the CD player:

Styx-The Grand Illusion
Dream Theater-Awake
The Cure-Disintegration
The Police-Synchronicity

currently on the turntable:

Genesis-Nursery Cryme (side 2)

currently in the tape deck:

Marillion-Misplaced Childhood (I can't find any *#&$ing Marillion on CD!)

Alex Smith


Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 01:13:43 EDT
Subject: Re: My own Red Barchetta.

Interesting Thread.  OK, I'll play along.

I have a 1990 Chevy Cavalier (fire engine red)
before this I had an '85 Chevette, also red.

Neither one was bought brand new, but oh how I love to blast the stereo.
Especially "RED BARCHETTA."

your favorite RUSH quote here.  ;)


From: "Ted D. Rossier" 
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 00:26:08 -0500
Subject: Iron Maiden, Metallica, flies and Marillion

thompsons wrote (about Maiden):

>The biggest difference is that they have two guitars and not a whole lot of
>emphasis on bass.

What are you smoking???  Steve Harris is one of the best bass players in
existence!  One of the things I like about Maiden is that you can actually
hear the bass distinctly, as opposed to some other metal bands.  They really
do bring the bass out in the mix.  Some songs to listen to to see what I
mean:  Phantom of the Opera, Killers, Innocent Exile, Hallowed Be Thy Name,
Seventh Son of a Seventh Son (the whole album!) just to name a few.  BTW
John Myung of Dream Theater lists Steve Harris and Geddy Lee as his primary
musical influences.  One can see why.

My buddy Chad said:

>Sadly, I live in Okla. City. where we get an hour of Metallica.  Oy, Oy,

Hey, I *like* Metallica!  At least the early stuff when they were still a
thrash band.  Say up through ...And Justice For All.  The Black Album has
its moments too.

Chris Palo said:

>"Is a fly without wings called a walk?"--anonymous

Not anonymous, Stephen Wright, I believe.

On the subject of Marillion:  Steve Hogarth does *not* suck, he's a great
singer, just different from Fish.  'Brave' is currently unavailable, but the
remastered version will be released in August, buy it or die trying.  If I
were to direct you to two quintessential Marillion CDs, they would be Brave
and Fugazi.  And, oh, BTW, the epic 'Grendel' can be had on the 'Script'
remaster bonus disc, along with 2 versions of MSH and other stuff.


Ted D. Rossier
"Individually, we are a ass,
but together, we are a genius."


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 00:21:48 -0700
Subject: ged on kazoo, alex on violin, neil on party whistle

>Alex Gray said:
>The sound doubling Alex's solo is NOT a guitar, I'm sorry.  I can quite 
>clearly hear distinguishing characteristics of a FIDDLE, a VIOLIN. 
>I've listened to that section over and over, many times, and I just 
>can't _not_ hear the fiddle's distinct scraping attack (particularly 
>right when it comes in at 4:22 or whatever).  The only way a _guitar_ 
>could do that would be with the aid of a fairly advanced guitar synth, 
>which Alex most certainly did NOT have in 1975...

Well, none of them play violin.  There is no credit to any other
musicians, which the boys do do when they use them.  And if you use a
pick(I don't) you can easily get that scraping sound along a string.  It
sounds like classic tube amp fuzz to me.  From, say, a Marshall stack
cranked up with a fuzz pedal?  Didn't Alex have that setup at one
point?  Any one else play a lot of guitar and recognize that sound? 
Clapton has done it, too, and probably a host of others.
And I'm not aware of any guitar synth that would ADD the sound of a bow
scraping to just one note, even now. 

question:  What is my spare copy of Visions worth?  Thinking of selling
it, depending.

"a poet who reads his verse in public may have other bad habits as
well."--Robert A. Heinlein   rush-related stickers


From: John and Darlene Heald 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:38:35 -0700
Subject: Re: Election Night 1998

For all of you interested in that all important Woodland, CA. City
Council election...Neal Peart did win a seat, with around 25% of the
vote. Now the big question,...will he still tour? 



From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 00:37:00 -0700
Subject: rush on boats

page 84 of Visions has Ged and B-man on a boat together.

"There is nothing...simply nothing...worth nearly half so much simply messing about in boats."  Toad, in The Wind In The


From: "Dustin Clingman" 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:37:28 -0400
Subject: RE: If You're RED your're DEAD

In reference to Aaron Calder's post on the mighty color red and it's many
appearences in Rush albums and songs, I would like to point out that red is
one of the three primary colors.. take another look at ASOH for more
references. Also in response to the red not concerning communism... I am
sorry, it's does. Consider that Grace Under Pressure was written during the
Cold War and at the height of Communism. The references to the Cold War in
songs like "Distant Early Warning" and "Red Sector A" point to a world on
the brink of nuclear holocaust and totalitarianinsm.. The entire album point
to an uneasieness in the world. This is probably my favorite album because
Rush was not afraid to tackle these topics back in Orwell's 1984

Dustin Clingman


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 00:42:21 -0700
Subject: oops

err, that's ged and NEIL on a boat on page 84 of visions.  The Tama ad
picture with Neil on the raft is page 85.

I sit corrected

"you don't mean I 'can't do that.'  You mean I'm 'not SUPPOSED to do
that.'  There's a difference."--Mad Mike  Rush-related stickers


From: mark irwin 
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:50:06 +0000
Subject: Most underrated thread...

Most underrated? COS.This album doesn't even get much respect from fans,
let alone the general public. Yet this is tha album that made Rush
decide to do it their own way, even though commercially, it failed. I
also thinks it's one of Alex's best efforts. Listen to the remastered
version. It is well deserving of wider recognition.
Mark Irwin


From: mark irwin 
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 23:00:14 +0000
Subject: Rush on the Radio

in answer to the Rush on the Radio thread, two stations out here in
SoCal USED to support the boys. 91X, back in the early 80's, used to
play FBN or Tom Sawyer along with Stairway to Heaven every hour on the
hour. KLOS 95.5 in L.A. used to have RushHour on Wednesday nights. They
played all requests and usually had some cool background info on the
songs. I don't know why, but we don't get Rush too regularly on the
radio anymore. And when we do, it's always Tom Sawyer, SOR, or
occasionally, FBN.
Mark Irwin


From: Jim B 
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 02:34:20 -0400
Subject: The Red Barchetta

>Hello fellow Rush freaks!

>I've been corresponding with a fellow NMS'er (Hi, Tom!!), and
>we discussed a thread that I thought would be kind-of fun. How many
>NMS'ers have their own Red Barchetta? I recently bought mine...a 1995 red
>Mazda Miata. It's my graduation present to myself. And the first song I 
>played in the tape deck? Guess...

>   [ The co-rush-mgr owns a red '94 Toyota Celica :-)   Me, I get a
>    gray van! hee hee                                       : rush-mgr ]

Ford introduced a prototype car that  never made it to production years
ago called the Ford Ghia Barchetta!  Wish I could get my hands on that
car (it was a red convertible two seater!).

P. S.  This is a first post from a reader for several years, I actually
helped produce a newsletter for Prodigy readers years ago called "The
Chronicles".  Any former subscribers out there?

Jim  aka Dreamline
(We're only immortal for a limited time!)


From: Stuart Clark 
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:51:23 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Rush=Iron Maiden

I'm not sure that the statement is true but I do like both Rush and Iron 
Maiden.  There are a few Iron Maiden 'progressive' tracks that anyone new 
to Maiden should check out:

Alexander the Great from Somewhere in Time
The Clansman from Virtual XI - Steve Harris plays an accoustic bass to 
great effect on this.

I caught Iron Maiden in London on 16th May 1998 on their Virtual XI tour and 
would like to urge all US fans to check them out - great stuff and they 
were obviously having a ball.

I also caught Test For Echo in Toronto last summer and I think the two 
bands are chalk and cheese but both have the same commitment to and 
enjoyment in their respective types of music.  Perhaps that is why I like 
em both.

Any fan who wants more details about the Maiden gig, email me privately.


Stuart Clark
Astronomy Department			Tel: +44 1707 324702
University of Hertfordshire		Fax: +44 1707 324702
College Lane
Hatfield				email:
Herts.  AL10 9AB U.K.


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