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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2075

                   Monday, 20 Jul 1998

Today's Topics:
                       Rush dreams
                    My favorite albums
           Rush sighting at muh grocery store!
                      The Camera Eye
                      RUSH sighting
                      Concert Video?
                      Rush's Career
                      neil's kid(s)
                Tom Sawyer on Toy Soldiers
                      Small Soldiers
      Shock Rock II  (Neil Peart and Kevin Anderson)
                    Another Rush cover
                       John Rutsey
           Brian Setzer Orchestra/Peter Collins
           Can anybody answer these questions?
      what is the meaning of the song, "Limelight"?
                 Tom Sawyer in the Movies
                 This is becoming routine
                      Neil's losses
                      A worthy cause
                  RUSH & the environment
                   Body Electric Video
               Tom Sawyer in movie preview
             Not Fade Away/You Can't Fight It
          The 'bots can't help their feelings...
              Rush is selection of the month
          "New" Rush song heard on the radio....
      Barenaked Ladies cover and Pink Floyd retired?
                LEAST favorite Rush songs
                  The Best Rush Quiz!!!
                  Puanani of the Desert?
                   Debatable Topics II
                Review of "Small Soldiers"
                       Video sales!
               Rush Music on the BIG Screen
                      Wish set list
               First in a series, revisited
                      Vote for Rush
                     Catalog numbers
                      real videos
                    GO PISS UP A ROPE
        To celebrate Ged's upcoming 45th birthday...
                     Geddy Lee Bass

From: (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Wed Jul 22 15:10:43 PDT 1998
Subject: Administrivia


Well, I come back to find that syrinx's mail server is down for repair.
So if you've been sending anything into the digest, it's probably bounced
by now (if not, it will in a few days).

I've decided to finally move the digest over to its permanent home at So please pay attention to the posting and admin addresses
(the same, just to instead of and start using 'em!
This will probably be the only digest for a few days, until people start
using the new address.

Here they are, just to repeat:
         To Post:
  For Admin Mail: or

Any questions, mail me.

 - rush-mgr


Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:16:39 +0000
Subject: Rush dreams

In hopes of lightening up the mood around here, I thought I'd pick up on 
someone's recent thread about weird Rush dreams.  Since 1981, I was hot into 
Rush.  My first concert had been when I was fifteen, after the release of MP, 
and although I didn't know who they were when I went to the concert (can you 
believe this?) after it I ran out and bought all their albums.  That's a story 
for another time.  

So I'm immersing myself in Rush, learning to play their songs on guitar, 
eating and sleeping Rush, getting more turned on by Geddy's bass lines and 
Neil's drumming than by Alex's playing (o well).  This was a few months 
before the release of Signals.  One night I dreamt about a song, and I 
actually remembered the tune and the words of the refrain.  I woke up singing, 
"....but I worry about you..."  No idea what the hell it was, of course.  A 
few months later, driving around with my boyfriend, I hear this song on the 
radio with "my" refrain in it, and they back-announce, "....that was the new 
release from RUSH!"


Pretty cool, huh?  Anyone else?  

Peace from Cinti, Elise

"And if the toaster stops
There's only the pound-cake to blame......"  --- The Breadman


From: John Gerard Lupoli 
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:20:29 -0400
Subject: My favorite albums

Hi Rushians,
	I'd just thought I'd give you my idea of the best rush albums from best
to worst.

1. 2112(of course) 2. A Farewell To Kings(Cygnus X-1 rocks) 3.
Hemispheres(so does Hemispheres) 4. All The World's A Stage 5. Exit...
Stage Left 6. A Show Of Hands 7. Moving Pictures 8. Fly By Night 9.
Permanent Waves 10. Caress Of Steel 11. Rush(including Not Fade Away/
You Can't Fight It) 12. Test For Echo 13. Counterparts 14. Signals
15. Roll The Bones 16. Grace Under Pressure 17. Power Windows 18. Hold
Your Fire

	You probably noticed that I didn't include Presto. That's because it's
the only album I don't have. In case of those of you who are wondering
why I put the albums from the 80's last, it's because that since I'm 14,
I'm not too crazy about that 80's style (synthesizer age) kind of music.
I like their stuff from 73-81 the most (even though I'm a 90's teenager)
because I like music from the Hard Rock Era of the late 60's to early
	By the way, I don't think that Rush will break up anymore. I figured,
why should Neil quit the band and give up drumming. Then he'll think
"We'll I quit my career and I gave up drumming. Now what am I supposed
to do." He'll probably get over it (just like after his daughter died.)
We all get over things like this. We have to learn to accept it. He has
no reason to end it all.

Matt Lupoli
North Haven, Ct


From: "Rodd Karp (Volt Computer) (Exchange)"
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:29:19 -0700
Subject: Rush sighting at muh grocery store!

I just finished writing some new music, and went to QFC (Quality Food
Centers) here in Seattle.  I was just about the only one in there, it was 
late at night (but before midnight) and the guys were all stocking the 
shelves, where I purchased some tasty Raisin-Bran (ON SALE!) and some oh so
rewarding Grape-Nutz. As I enter the store, I hear none other than 'In The
Mood'... I thought it appropriate as I was truly very hungry, and could not 
wait to consume the said food products.

I hummed and even sang just a little, but only to the ice cream.


From: (Christopher W Lindsay)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:27:56 -0400
Subject: The Camera Eye

I am sure that this was discussed and maybe grew tired by the NMSers, but
what does everyone think occurs in the song "The Camera Eye"  after
"unique to every city's streets....(drum roll)..."  I think Ged burps and
says "oh boy."  Actually I don't think that, but I use to.  Let's start a
thread, what did people think it was?  Be credible, don't say "Paddy
cake, paddy cake" or anything.

My friend thinks he burps and says "god d**n!"

Serious note:  In the faq it says that there is a soundbyte of Clark Kent
from Superman, where is it?  Is that what the blurb is?


From: "Jeremy D. Brown" 
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:53:29 -0500
Subject: RUSH sighting

On WHME Fort Wayne Indiana, on Bob Enyart Live ( A christian talk show),
Rush was played before and after going to commercials breaks.  He has also
played Pink Floyd during his show.  Songs he played were Subdivisions,
Anthem, Roll The Bones, Closer To The Heart, and Big Money.  There were
more but I missed some of the show.  These were just samples of the songs too.

Jeremy Brown
"I try to find humor wherever I go
maybe that's why I'm so serious ;)"-me


From: MTC 
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:15:05 -0500
Subject: Concert Video?

Has there been any word of any possible video taped concerts
accompanying the new live releases - similar to ASOH
or ESL?
I for one would prefer to see the live performances of the music.



Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 00:42:01 EDT
Subject: Rush's Career

For Neil Peart, obviously a pretty introverted personality, losing loved ones
like that must be next to impossible to deal with.
I'm a pretty introverted personality myself and if I lost my wife and
daughter, I'd call it quits.

In fact, if Rush calls it quits, I'll be happy for them.  I love the band SO
much, they have changed my life in ways I can't begin to describe...
and if they say enough is enough, I support them.  Honestly, I wish they don't
but I think it's a great possibility right now.

Thanks, that's all
 Arbon Reimer


From: Eric Martin 
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 07:40:41 -0400
Subject: Tom Sawyer on Toy Soldiers

Hello All,

I just picked up the soundtrack cd for Toy Soldiers (haven't seen the movie
yet).  There is a re-mixed Tom Sawyer as the second to last song.

After listening to it twice, this song is starting to grow on me.  I don't
dislike the original version, but I've heard it so many times, it's certainly
not my first choice.  I don't think the remix will be everyone's cup of tea,
but at least it's better than a bunch of 'hair' musicians butchering up Rush's
work.  It isn't a 'dance' remix, although the beat has certainly changed to a
more mortal one.  The remixer has also done some interesting things with
Geddy's voice.

As for the rest of the soundtrack, I've listened to it once and don't remember
anything in particular standing out except for the original version of War
after Tom Sawyer.

In other semi-Rush related news, I tried to buy 'Stunt' the latest from
Barenaked Ladies, not to be found-sold out at two circuit cities and a best
buy.  I think they'll be high up on Entertainment Weekly's chart next week.

Eric-also a fan of Spock's Beard, Discipline and Porcupine Tree
Try them out, one of them is bound to appeal


From: "DJ Benjamin" 
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 09:52:57 PDT
Subject: Small Soldiers

Something I have been waiting for, to happen this century: Seeing Geddy, 
Alex and Neil's names in the credits of a movie. "Tom Sawyer" is played 
very briefly in "Small Soldiers" but hey --they finally were included in 
a major motion picture soundtrack. :-)

My web site:


From: (Christopher W Lindsay)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 13:17:10 -0400
Subject: Shock Rock II  (Neil Peart and Kevin Anderson)

I work at a discount bookstore and a shipment of "Shock Rock II" books
came in.  This book  has the stroy "Drumbeats" by Neil Peart and Kevin

If you want a copy, I'll send it to you for at cost (I'll make no money
on it--I respect RUSH fans that much) which would be $2.75 + tax
(total=$2.92) and whatever the S&H charges will be on it.  Just e-mail me
and I'll give you details.  I got five copies only--first come, first

I'm still hoping for "The Masked Rider" to come in;  we get a lot of
Canadian publisher's books.


From: Peter Beshuk 
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 13:43:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Another Rush cover

Nice job on the Rush covers list.  There's one more, as of about 1 month ago.
It's an EP by Liquid Gang.  They're sort of Guns'n'Roses-ish.  They covered
Working Man.  Pretty straightforward version.  The verses insturmentation is
slightly acoustic-electric, but still pretty hard rock sounding.  I think they
deviated from the lead guitar just a bit also.  If you want this CD, you can
have it for what I paid + postage = $15.  I forget the title of the CD at the


5431 Kenwood Rd. #203
Cin. OH 45227


From: (Derek Tetlow)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 11:47:15 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: John Rutsey

Does anyone know what the "other interests" were that John Rutsey was
persuing after he left Rush?  Does anyone know what he does now?

Derek Tetlow
Streamline Sports Video
"Simplification through Modernization"


From: Guy Hamernik 
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 18:03:44 -0500
Subject: Brian Setzer Orchestra/Peter Collins

I went to see the BSO at the Minnesota Zoo in Apple Valley last Friday.  The 
show was incredible.  If you like Big Band, Swing, SKA, or Rockabilly, don't 
miss out when they come to your town.  They were selling the new CD "Dirty 
Boogie" at the show, and I was surprised to see it was produced by Peter 
Collins, "G/P" Producer.  They even included a new studio version of the Stray 
Cats "Rock This Town" on the new CD.

Opening act "Big Rude Jake" was also good.  Jake is from Canada, and the 
other four members were from Manhattan (according to their T-shirt Sales 


Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:48:06 -0400
Subject: Can anybody answer these questions?

I listened to a rush bootleg the other day called "Freefall" and it had a
song I've never heard about.  It was called "Badboy." Can somebody confirm
that this is just a cover song or something else.

   [ Cover of a Beatles song, which I was told a while ago was yet ANOTHER
     cover, but of course I don't remember the original artist.   
     Oh well, one of these days I'll actually write these things down!
                                                                : rush-mgr ]

Also, for those who might know the answer, I have noticed that their has
been alot of reference to the color RED over the years by Rush.  For
instance The Red Star in 2112/Red Barchetta/Red Sector A/ Red Tide/ Color
Red/Hold Your Fire Album Cover/ and possibly more.  My theory ties it into
the 2112 concept, but I'm just not sure.  Please make some feedback.
Here's another question I have.  Does anybody know Ged/Alex/Neil's beer of
choice?  I know Bob & Doug McKenzie's is Elzinor. (By the way, has anybody
heard if they're ever going to come out with another movie?)



From: (song youson)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 21:38:08 -0400
Subject: what is the meaning of the song, "Limelight"?

First of all, I don't know what motivates people under this digest to
flame rush mgr. It seems to me that she has done  much for the cause than
anyone else and this work is tiresome. For whatever reasons there are, I
think as  mature adults and great "Rush Fans", we can find much better
ways to express  own's opinions. Make opinions constructive. Would you
talk to your boss the same way? Anyway, if you agree with this why don't
you send her a cyber dozen of roses?
* * * * * * * * * * * * <<<From: Mike Gay 
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 23:34:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tom Sawyer in the Movies

I know that someone mentioned that TS is played in Small Solders.  Well,
guess what...I saw a preview for the new Adam Sandler movie, "Waterboy"
and they played Tom Sawyer!  I could hardly believe it.  At first I
thought, "Well the person was wrong, s/he thought that it was in Small
Solders but it's really in Waterboy."  To my surprise, It was/is in both!
Is there some big thing going on with Tom lately?  Why did two movies both
use the same song?
In the 'I wonder' category, I wonder what Rush feels about it.


From: (Chuck Flowers)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:06:25 -0500
Subject: This is becoming routine

In what seems to be a common practice these days, there is another movie
trailer featuring Tom Sawyer.  It is for the new Adam Sandler flick, "The
Waterboy" and features about a minute of the song, including vocals.  Has
Hollywood embraced Rush as the voice of a new generation?

   [ Good question. I saw the same trailer (before "Lethal Weapon 4")
     Two movies in two months, both using Rush, BOTH using the same song,
     very creepy...                                             : rush-mgr ]

c money


From: "Elmer Goad" 
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:37:52 -0400
Subject: Neil's losses

As I listen through my RUSH CD collection these past few days a few things
come to mind relating to Neil's most recent loss:  I tune into certain
songs I have played when tragedy has struck in my life and reflect on how a
dealt with those times.  Afterimage gets alot of play when any death
occurs.  Marathon was in heavy rotation when my 2 month old niece died in
Sept. '86.  Available Light and Presto were constantly being played when my
Dad got sick in '94 and when he finally succumbed to heart and lung disease
in Feb. '97.  The point being, if there is one, I am grateful the band
created music that has moved me enough to be part of my own grieving

My hope for Neil and his family is simple; that they find strength to go on
with their own lives as best they can.  


From: (scott chase)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:55:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: tact

I feel bad for Neil's loss. What else can I say? To dwell on it and
snowball it into threads and flamefests is something that needs to be
avoided at all costs, PLEASE :-) I see it brewing already. Hoping not to
sound rude: Let's give it a rest, out of respect for those whose concern
it really is.

In non-Rush related news, I got two Catherine Wheel CD's last week _Adam
and Eve_ and _Happy Days_. I haven't had much time to listen to them
yet. "Judy Staring at the Sun" was a song that caught my ear a couple
years ago. BTW, I'm sure most of you know that Catherine Wheel injects a
little tribute to Rush of their own at the end of the _Like Cats and
Dogs_ CD. Not bad.

I haven't kept up with much of the newer "progressive" type music coming
out. I think some songs I've heard on the radio by I Mother Earth and
Third Eye Blind have been OK. Any suggestions for a fellow Rushian
looking to buy a couple new CD's? Someone should have a "Rush fan's
guide to non-Rush music", keeping it up to date with reviews and latest

                                 Scott CttChase


Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:59:33, -0500
Subject: A worthy cause

I was moved by a post suggesting that we express our condolances 
about Jackie and Selena by volunteering in our own communities. I 
thought it was very sensible. To that end I want to inform anyone in 
the Denver/Boulder/Greeley/Fort Collins area who might be interested 
in just such an opportunity.

Children's Hospital in Denver is sponsoring a thing called the 
Courage Classic. It is a bicycle tour that covers 150 miles over 
three days over the weekend of July 17-19, up in the mountains around 
Leadville and Dillon.  Participants collect pledges, which are then 
donated to Children's Hospital.

You can gather more info by contacting the Tour itself at (303)-456-
9704 or email at

I am still collecting pledges. If anyone who recieves this is 
interested, please email me at 

As we all know, Neil is an avid cyclist. It was his enthusiasm that 
inspired me to take it up. Think of it--Mountain air, ESL in your 
Discman and a way to channel your thoughts and energy in a way that 
will benefit you (your body will love you and vice versa) and people 
who you don't even know. Way cool.

Thanks for your time, and I hope to meet all of you there!!



Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:04:07 -0400
Subject: RUSH & the environment

 Hi kids,
I haven't been reading thru all the digests recently, so I don't know if
this has already been mentioned....
but for those or you who are interested.... 

Rock and the Environment
Live Concert Cybercast

July 14th through July 31st, 1998
7:00pm EST   
Former Soundgarden guitarist Kim Thayil hosts this provocative interview
show in which major rock artists discuss environmental issues and their
ideas on how to help save the earth. Guests include Pearl Jam, Blues
Traveler, Chris Cornell, Rush, Tonic, Brother Cane, Candlebox, Jerry
Cantrell, Days of the New, Our Lady Peace, Seven Mary Three, and Joe

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:13:29 EDT
Subject: Body Electric Video

Hey... yo... whats up...

I work in a video store here in Michigan, and I found a movie called "Incident
at Channel Q".  It's an early 80's B flick that has numerous rock bands'
videos included in the film, and Body Electric is one such vid.  Look it up if
you can, but don't order it, because then you're just much better off getting
that video compilation  (The Camera Eye?  I think its called)

Take care all

"Lucifer my friend, what a trip it's been, but I'm sick of my amends!"  


From: John W Connelly 
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:18:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tom Sawyer in movie preview

Hi folks,

Long time no write.

Before a matinee screening of Lethal Weapon 4 at my local theater
yesterday, there was a preview for an upcoming Adam Sandler flick called
"The Water Boy".  Background music for this preview included Instrumental
parts of "Tom Sawyer", with two lines of Ged's vocals during the credits.

I'm not sure, but I think this is the only time I've ever heard Rush
during a movie trailer.  Anyone else?

| John W. Connelly | "If you choose not to decide,  |    |
| Cognitive Psych. |   you still have made a choice"|+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+|
| U. of Pittsburgh |                - Neil Peart    ||


From: John Gerard Lupoli 
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:18:16 -0400
Subject: Not Fade Away/You Can't Fight It

Hi Rushians,
         Rush has released all of their albums on vinyl. I would love to
get my hands on Rush's '73 single "Not Fade Away/You Can't Fight It."
They only made it on vinyl, but I wish that they would re-release it on
cd. It would save us a lot of time looking for it on vinyl, and it would
save us a lot of money. I'm not too crazy about plunking down $300 for a
7" vinyl with only 2 songs on it (unless of course I bought it from an
idiot who doesn't know how much it's worth.)
         By the way, I heard somewhere that Rush has a rareties record.
Has anybody else heard of this?
Matt Lupoli
North Haven, Ct


From: "Joseph Ornelas" 
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:57:48 -0700
Subject: The 'bots can't help their feelings...

Rush sighting!  In a wonderful move on the part of Mystery Science Theater 3000,
they've had their second Rush reference in as many episodes.

While panning through some *trees,* Mike gets bored and belts out "But the trees
can't help their feeling, if they like the way they're made..."  but Crow stops
him for some reason.  Whether it's to end the mangling of a Rush tune, or not,
we'll never know.

Joseph Ornelas

"Different eyes see different things,
Different hearts, beat on different strings."


From: greg cormier 
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 98 7:24:59 EDT
Subject: Rush is selection of the month

 I belong to the BMG music club and thiws months selection is "Rush 
retrospective I and II". There is a short write up on the band and what's 
on the two CD's which is transposed below.

Selected by Senior Music Editor Bruce Imber

  "Progressive Rock" had it's share of milestone bands, but among the prime 
innovators- ELP, Yes, Pink Floyd, Genesis- only Canada's Rush has kept it's 
core lineup intact for over two decades. Bassist/Vocalist Geddy Lee, 
Guitarist Alex Lifeson and Drummer Neil Peart form one of the tightest 
units in Rock, a crack outfit that has it's chops down cold. When a band 
has this kind of staying power, it's well worth a look back to hear why 
they've remained on top for so long.
   Compiled from all 12 of Rush's 1974-1987 studio releases, the 
"Retrospective" albums are valuable for two reasons: 1)They're the first 
Rush compilations to be supervised by the band members themselves; 2)Each 
track has been selected from the recently remastered versions of the 
original releases, ensuring premium sound quality. And with over 75 minutes 
of music per disc, together they make up one of the strongest "Best of" 
sets available from any band.
    Each individual disc represents a distinctive era in Rush's career, the 
first volume covering the years 1974-1980, the second taking us from 1981 
through 1987. While the earlier tracks take their cue from the Cream- 
Zeppelin camp, Rush soon found it's own voice, which fully crystallized 
with the one-two punch of 1976's landmark concept album "2112", and on the 
lyrical depth of expansive hits like Closer to the Heart, The Spirit of 
Radio and Freewill. Moving from hit tracks lie Limelight and Tom Sawyer 
(from the quadruple-platinum "Moving Pictures") through the 
synthesizer-driven Subdivisions and The Big Money, "Retrospective II" 
brings the 80's era to a close with more personal new ventures like Time 
Stand Still and Mission.
    Beyond the mind-boggling instrumental prowess, tricky time signatures 
and larger-than-life lyrical themes, "Retrospective II & II" witness Rush 
moving beyond Progressive Rock flag-bearers into the role of a time-tested 
Rock legend.

Rush creates music that is bigger than life, dazzling in it's technological 
feats... It's like a sonic video game.- The New York Times


From: "Arnaldo L. Vincenty" 
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:37:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: "New" Rush song heard on the radio....

I think I'm getting to write again to the NMS for a while...

Anyway, last Friday afternoon, the rock radio station here in Albany
played the new version of Tom Sawyer, from the "Small Soldiers"
soundtrack.  It is cool, even though is kinda mainstream.  Well, what
do you expect, Tom Sawyer is Rush's biggest hit song (I think), and
the song is perfect for the movie.  It's about time movie producers
use Rush songs for their movies!!!

This will make me go to the theaters and watch Small Soldiers... It's
not like Armageddon, where Aerosmith probably had an exclusivity
contract in the soundtrack.

Arnie Vincenty
Albany, GA (San German, P.R.)


From: Mike Gay 
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:36:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Barenaked Ladies cover and Pink Floyd retired?

>From: Paul Horta 
>Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:51:41 -0400
>Subject: 2112 Overture cover and others
>Hey Ryan thanks for mentioning the cover of 2112 Overture by Paul
>Roraback (drummer from Grammatrain).  
>The name of the cd is The Mother Of All Tribute Albums 
>I would also like to list some other Rush covers that have been done
>over the years:

>There have also been little snippets of Rush songs such as:
>Primus doing YYZ intro to Tommy The Cat
>Barenaked Ladies doing TSOR and Tom Sawyer on Grade 9
>The Tragically Hip doing Limelight
I am a huge Barenaked Ladies (BNL) fan and I have never heard Tom Sawyer
in Grade 9.  Is in the drum solo?  Lyrics?  Where?  If you could let me
know exactly where (CD Time, point in the song, lyrics, etc.) I might be
able to hear it.
>From: (Christopher W Lindsay)
>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:00:05 -0400
>Subject: RUSH'S FINAL
>Just a quick noter for y'all to pnder.
>Whether RUSH calls it quits or not is not what I'm concerned with (well
>it kinda is, but I digress).  Anyways, let's just hope they don't pull an
>Ozzy or Bob Segar, or Pink Floyd and say, "we're done, we're retiring"
>and then a coupla years later, come back.

My next point, I'm also a huge Pink Floyd fan.  I have never heard that
Pink Floyd was retiring.  I know that Roger Waters decided that it wasn't
going to work but he wasn't Pink Floyd.  David Gilmour and Nick Mason
decided to continue Pink Floyd (Much to Rogers dissatisfaction.)  Anyway,
PF didn't retire and return, they just lost a few members.



Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:32:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: LEAST favorite Rush songs

Greetings fellow Rush freaks,

     This may actually be on par to tasting forbidden fruit or
something like that, but I'm damn curious.  I mean, we're all big time
Rush fans here.  That much is pretty evident.  We all have our
favorite songs, mine being greats such as "Red Barchetta", "The Camera
Eye", "Natural Science", "The Trees",etc., I could go on all day.  How
about those Rush songs which simply don't cut the mustard?  My
personal choice for least favorite song would have to be "The Speed of
Love" from CP.  This is Rush at their weakest.  A pretty bland all
around effort from the boys.  Any other opinions, people? 

"Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!"


Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 00:16:17 -0700
Subject: The Best Rush Quiz!!!

A quick note that the Grand Designs Rush Site has a new feature:
A monthly Rush quiz built to challenge even the most die-hard fans
around.  Even more... it's a different quiz every month!!!>>> question is...does he still plagiarize from other sites?

Just wondering.



Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:29:01 EDT
Subject: Puanani of the Desert?

>From Neil Bonfield ( in NMS 2068


Hey....I wondered what happened to the Island Girl. Didn't see her posts
floating around for awhile and I lost her e-mail address. Thanks, Neil!
Puanani----get back on and let's hear from you. There are people who miss you.
(But Phoenix....I was there three days hundred eleven degrees.



From: "eddy Maxwell" 
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:03:13 -0500
Subject: Debatable Topics II

I loved Al Willig's post, "Debatable Topics".  He brought up questions
that we all should be asking ourselves.

Al said:

> Iíve been reading the NMS digest for only about a month now.  I have to
> say, that in general, the postings recently have been much more of a
> negative nature (bordering on bickering) than in early June.  Perhaps
> this goes in fits and starts but I want to say a couple things about
> recent goings on.

I've been reading for a couple of years, and you're right.  There's good
issues and bad issues, and they seem to be cyclical, as so much of life
is.  Frankly, the positive posts are usually around the time of a new
release or tour.  Once the excitement wears off, we go back to
bickering.  :(

> Is it ok to talk of the death of Neilís wife?
> Some have suggested, that out of respect for Neil and his family, we
> should refrain from discussing it... Much like the
> outpouring of support on this digest will not reach Neil, nor will any
> of the discussion, so in no way are we disrespecting the man... I would 
> say this is more of a
> therapeutic exercise for us than any real support for Neil, since HE

I know this will sound stupid, but I hadn't thought of it in that way.
It's almost a freeing thought, knowing you can say whatever, without
worrying about being callous or insensitive (not that Neil would care
what any of us have to say anyway).  I'm not saying we should go in for
a free-for-all gossipfest, but this is a digest for the discussion of
the band, whatever that may entail.  For me, I like to keep it
work-oriented, with occasional dips into their personal lives when it
will affect their work.

> I have to say that the moment I saw the setlist for An Evening With
> Rush, it was my personal feeling that we would not see another studio
> effort from the band.  These are just my personal feelings.  I donít
> have any interest in debating them.  I hope Iím wrong but if weíre not
> here to give our personal feelings about the band, what exactly are we
> doing?

Exactly.  I really, really, want another album by them, but if they
don't put one out, well, I have all of their other stuff to listen to.
And like you said, we did get An Evening with Rush, which would be one
helluva swan song.

> Is it ok to say that one song or another is not enjoyed, skippable, what
> have you?

Yes!!!  The debate of best/worst or must hear/skippable has really
helped me "hear" the music or lyrics on certain songs.  Someone will
post their opinion, and then I'll go back and listen for what they were
talking about.  I appreciate Rush's songs even more because of these

> ...I donít necessarily want to debate this
> through the digest but anyway, my point is that I believe itís ok to
> state an opinion or a critique or a criticism if you provide some
> support...

Yeah.  It makes differing opinions more palatable if there is some
backup to what one says.  We don't need dissertations, just a sentence
or two explaining why.

> Anyway, I think itís possible to discuss/debate without the bickering.


> Letís just be
> thankful that Alex Van Halen is back on his own digest.

AVH?  Who's he?  Is he a drummer?  ;)


"Join me in a flurry of pages/The written word should be more/Think,
learn, explore"--Whirlwind Path by me


Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:21:00 EDT
Subject: Review of "Small Soldiers"

I just wrote this review for my Rush website and thought I would share it with

REVIEW OF "SMALL SOLDIERS" From a Rush Fan's Perspective.

The past year has shown us a growing trend of remixing the rock songs that
appear in a movie for just a few seconds and then putting them on a soundtrack
in their remixed form. Since I've already been exposed to this current
phenomenon, I was not suprised when I went to see "Small Soldiers". Granted,
to hear "Tom Sawyer" on the silver screen was not the only reason why I went
to see this film. From the promotions, "Small Soldiers" looked like a neat
little movie to go see. But the reason why I went to the movie on opening day
was to satisfy my curiosity as to how the film would handle the song.

As I had suspected, there was only a small snippet of Sawyer in this film. If
you end up having a sneezing fit for a few seconds you can easily miss it.
"Tom Sawyer" only appears via the heroin's headphones as she talks on the
phone. So all you really get is a muffled Sawyer...but it least it is the
studio version (I think). I stayed through the credits and they never did play
Sawyer again. Oh was still a fun movie to see and I recommend it.

Later that day, I went by a local CD store that allows people to listen to
CDs. I listened to this remix of "Tom Sawyer" because I needed that fix. I was
honestly not that impressed with it, or I would have bought the soundtrack (I
ended up purchasing the "Burning for Buddy" CD that Neil produced as a tribute
to drummer Buddy Rich. WOW! Great CD!). All that these remixers did was remove
the drum track  and add some rap beats and
new sounds. I would have liked the remix a lot more if they had been more
creative with it. They basically just changed it enough to be annoying, not
interesting. I do declare that the remixed version of "Tom Sawyer" is a
wonderful example of how important Neil Peart is to Rush. You know the
saying..."if it ain't baroque, don't fix it". In this case..."if it is Rush,
then leave that thing alone".



From: "Jan Estling" 
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 21:55:24 +0200
Subject: Video sales!


Some one out there knowing how
many copies of Rush videos that have been
sold worldwide?

swederusher "Lex Rushon"


From: "Santa Claus" 
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:15:12 -0400
Subject: Rush Music on the BIG Screen


I went to see a movie this week (Small Soliders) it was pretty cool. A
preview for Adam Shandler's new movie "Waterboy" came on and the theme song
Pretty kool ayh.



From: greg cormier 
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 98 17:44:59 EDT
Subject: Wish set list

  The following would be my wish set list ,in no particular order,for the 
upcoming live 3-CVD release on Oct 6th.

Disc I

Natural Science, 2112, dreamline, Driven, Animate, Virtuality, Nobody's 
Hero,Scars,Superconductor, The Big Money

Disc II

Red Barchetta, Half The World, Stick It Out, Leave that Thing Alone,
Resist, The Pass, Limbo, Test For Echo,Show Me Don't Tell Me,Subdivisions.

Disc III

Cinderella Man, Cgynus X-1, A Passage to Bangkok, Something For Nothing, 
Xanadu, Fly By Night,The Trees, A Farewell to Kings,Something For Nothing, 
The Fountain of Lamenth. 

Please feel free to comment on my wish set list.


From: Alex Gray 
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 21:22:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: First in a series, revisited

First of all, thank you, muchas gracias, mille mercis, danke schoen and
arigatougozaimas to everyone who sent me sound-processing advice, pointed
me toward good MP3 programs, and even (in one case) offered me web space
I used this knowledge to compress a .wav file from 7MB to 2.4MB.  I
subsequently uploaded it to my web page, at

The .wav file in question is none other than my cover of that classic song
from Rush's first recorded endeavor, _Rush_, namely


Please check it out, it's totally free, comments welcome.  There's even an
11-second, 240-K "preview" so you can try before you spend an hour
Note: NOT A NOTE-FOR-NOTE COVER.  1) I don't believe in note-for-note
covers - what's the point?  2) I sang down an octave because, while I can
_hit_ those notes, I can't _scream_ them.

The next cover might be a while - I'm working 60 hours a week at the
Athens, GA Carrier plant to support myself through the summer - but I have
decided that it will be everyone's favorite song on FBN,



HOMER: "Bart, if you can look me in the eye and tell me that you didn't
take the collection money, that's all I need to hear."
BART: "I didn't do it."
HOMER [strangling Bart]: "Why you little-!  How could you look me in the
eye and lie like that?!!"


From: "msutton ." 
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 01:01:02 -0600
Subject: Vote for Rush

A little while ago someone posted that a radio station was having a
battle of the bands so I took a look and found out that Rush made it
past round one with a close win over the band Yes.  Well now they are
being tested again, in a new round, against Cream.  If you want to vote
here is the address:



From: John Gerard Lupoli 
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:51:25 -0400
Subject: Catalog numbers

Hi Rushians,
	Does anybody know the LP catalog numbers for Roll The Bones,
Counterparts, and Test For Echo.

For example:
	2112-Mercury SRM-1-1079 (or) Caress Of Steel-Mercury SRM-1-1046

All I know is:
	Roll The Bones-Atlantic ?
	Counterparts-Atlantic ?
	Test For Echo-Atlantic ?

Can you guys fill in those question marks?

Matt Lupoli
North Haven, Ct


From: "colin burroughs" 
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:30:27 PDT
Subject: real videos

This is my first posting and I love the music of rush as well. My 
condolences are with you neil. Here is my question now that nms real 
videos or studio videos are not there any more is there any other site 
with some?
Colin Burroughs


From: Stuart Hodgetts 
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:27:10

G'day all,

Well it took about 3 or 4 issues before the freaks started crawling out
from under their rocks.  I'm talking about those who cut and paste the
comments from the posts of others concerning Neil's wife and use them to
"score points".

It is a natural response by many to post their feelings about this tragic
event.  We should all be aware that this is part of a grieving process -
even if the grief that is felt is for Neil.  I think that this is as useful
a forum as any to do this, and we should all exercise the right to scroll
down or use the page down key if we don't want to read it. If you didn't
expect to see these messages appearing on the NMS, then I think you might
have been deceiving yourself. When you stop and think about the
implications for future Rush projects, talk about anything else seems
rather immaterial at the moment.

But if you want to use this material as a way to score points by belittling
others then read the title of my post!!  Just back off and give people time
to react - who cares whether you or I agree or disagree with what has been
said.  Form your own opinion and keep it to yourself rather than berating

More importantly...

Having spent a few years working on cancer research, I can tell you that
there are plenty of worthwhile organisations that would be very thankful to
receive donations and/or help of any kind.  Different countries will have
different organisations, so it would be useless for me to list any of them
here. If you feel a genuine need to contribute or donate to these
organisations that help fund basic cancer research or the treatment of
cancer patients then take a minute to look in your yellow pages - they
should all be listed. Your time and money will not be wasted, and greatly

Billy Oz...out.

Rush mgr - Why don't you ban the freaks that hassled you about not
releasing this news from the NMS, you will be doing ALL of us a favour.


From: Gino Foti 
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:21:50 -0400
Subject: To celebrate Ged's upcoming 45th birthday...

>...I am slashing the price of my band's CD
[Electrum - Frames of Mind] to $5 - this includes
first-class shipping in the US - to all NMS and readers.

We are an instrumental progressive rock trio, that
formed through NMS postings about 2.5 years ago,
and have since self-released our debut disc.
The 63-minute program features complex arrangements
in Classical forms, rhythmic ensemble playing, and
abundant time-signature changes. If you're a fan
of the boys' 2112-Signals period, I think you will
enjoy at least some of it.

To take advantage of this offer, please visit:

This is an annex page to our site that contains
audio files in streaming Real Audio and .mp3 formats
for six of the nine tracks, as well as an order form.
For the obvious reason, this page will be deleted
after July 29.

Take care,



From: Kevin Beroth 
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:19:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Geddy Lee Bass

Fender is finally shipping the Geddy Lee basses.  I had mine on order since
I found out about it in late January/early February and I got it last week.
It sounds and plays great but I like Jazz basses any way.  Any other opinions?

Kevin Beroth 
Winston-Salem, NC

song lyric of the year:
 "...if i saw your body burnin' in the street, i'd put you out with
gasoline..." Henry Rollins - Rollins Band "The End of Something"


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