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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2099

                  Tuesday, 08 Sep 1998

Today's Topics:
                     Holding My Fire
            Too Early to be asking of a tour?
                  Re: Neil Look-a-likes
                    Live Albums thread
               Live Album thread - addendum
           RUSH IN SOUTH AMERICA ??????????????
               Silly Little Rush Sighting..
                       Issue # 2112
         Gramamtrain (was Rush covers - part II)
                    Freewill question
                     Misheard Lyrics
                   Re: Seinfeld & Rush
             Re: Why I want TS on the LIVE CD
                       beastie boys
                   Rush Misheard Lyrics
              Freewill question/New Question
              Responses to a bunch of stuff
                    Live Album Venues
            donna halper & the rock-n-roll hof
                      I don't know.
                   I still don't know.
                   Live Video Questions
                      Rush Sighting
      Top Ten Silliest Things About Being a Rush Fan
    Hemispheres is related to The Fountain of Lamneth?
                       Music Videos
                         da da da
             Re: Second Nature-Sept. 8th show
                      Metheny, etc.
                      rush siting!!
                Hooking up to soundboards
               "The Modern Day Warrior..."
                        Mars 2112
     rush sighting, sort of.... more of a rush moment
                    ASOH concert shirt
           Idea for #2112, Rush in Hall of Fame

From: (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Tue Sep  8 09:58:12 PDT 1998
Subject: Administrivia

First, on the upcoming live album: The release date has been pushed forward
a week, it is now due for release on the 10th of November. "Animate" is
still set to be the first single, but won't be out until mid-October.

Second, thanks to EVERYONE who has filled out the on-line petition, and who
has posted something on the RNR HOF message board! The petition now has 
nearly 800 names, and the message board went from 70 posts to 564 in a 
matter of *6* days! I would say it is the MOST active board they have, and
a *HUGE* thanks to those of you who posted thoughtful, intelligent words
rather than reply to someone's idiocy :-)  As one person pointed out, 99.25%
of the posts under our thread are positive! Keep it up, we only have until

And I wanted to say a big, huge, enormous thanks to Donna Halper, who started
the ball rolling on the Hall of Fame campaign!

 - rush-mgr

ps. Oh yeah, how bout them Chargers?? Talk about LUCKY...
(and John Carney hits from 54 yards out... bet the Bills wish they had him!
and no, this has nothing to do with Rush -- they didn't play a Rush song at 
the game, and I didn't see anyone wearing Rush clothing, but it's still 
cool :-)


Date: Fri, 04 Sep 98 09:30:12 -0500
Subject: Holding My Fire

     In response to "Another damn post from *him*..."
     While I have not been a subscriber to TNMS for as long as you, I find 
     that it doesn't take long to get a sense of the same frustrations that 
     you wrote about.  We are all "here" because of our common devotion and 
     admiration for Rush.  So, as you say, let's have a little FUN!!  Rush 
     are renowned for having fun, both on stage and in the studio.  Let us 
     carry on this tradition, in the name of Geddy, Alex and Neil, and have 
     FUN on TNMS!!
     Peace, brother.


Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:57:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Too Early to be asking of a tour?

Is it more than likely that RUSH will do a new tour to promote the new
upcoming album and if so, would Nashville, TN be a possible tour date?
I hope that I am not asking this question too early. I think I am just

btw, I do believe there's a ghost of a chance will find someone to love
and make it last.    

Long live RUSH!!!



From: Dan 
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:30:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Neil Look-a-likes

>Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:01:32 EDT
>Subject: Kind of a Rush sighting
>I was watching "The Jackal" with Bruce Willis & Richard Gere last night.
>During the part where Bruce is in Canada having a huge piece of machinery
>loaded into his minivan, one of the guys helping with the loading is a dead
>ringer for Neil.  You only see him for a split second, check it out and
let me
>knoe what you think.  Also, the movie is decent.  Cheers, Tom

I've always thought that Eric Kramer, the current Chicago Bears
quarterback, looks a lot like Neil.  Anyone else care to comment?


"The point of a journey is not to arrive." - Neil Peart


From: Neil Bonfield 
Date: 04 Sep 1998 11:07:50 -0400
Subject: Live Albums thread

Paul Smith wanted to start a thread about live albums.

Paul, I thought your selection was admirable - here's my take:

1. Live and Dangerous - Thin Lizzy: duelling guitars par excellence!
Emerald and Boys Are Back In Town spring immediately to mind.

2. Strangers in the night - UFO: I never got to see UFO live, but what a
rock-out show it must've been!

3. Seconds Out - Genesis: I agree with you entirely on this one!

4. Frampton Comes Alive - Peter Frampton: Energy, great songs, and
superb guitar work - what more could you possibly want??

5. Live Tapes - Barclay James Harvest: Atmospheric and very moody, this
one brings back lots of fond memories...

6. Under A Blood Red Sky - U2: Raw energy combined with meaningful,
heartfelt lyrics...what went wrong??

7. Made In Japan - Deep Purple: In their heyday Purple were possible one
of the most aggressive progressive rock bands. Space Trucking and Child
in Time just out and out rock. First album I really learned to
air-guitar to (is that a good thing??).

These are the ones I thought of after your post - I'm sure there are
others that warrant a mention from that era. And let's not forget ATWAS
  as some people have pointed out recently it is possibly the one live
Rush album which has captured the guys as they should be heard. Officially.

Cheers from Essex


Is it true that Nottingham has a female:male ratio of 5:1???

Neil Bonfield


From: Neil Bonfield 
Date: 04 Sep 1998 11:17:10 -0400
Subject: Live Album thread - addendum

Just thought of these too...

Live Cream (I think) - Cream: Clapton was God for a month or two.

Wings Over America - Wings: He he. erm. He he heh. er ha ha HA.
BWAHHAHAHA! Actually, there are some good songs on there - honest. Can't
think of them right now. Soily? Let Me Roll It? Maybe I'm Amazed? Maybe.
Well produced though.

Has anyone else here bought To Hear Amazing Things from Scarred Records?
It's pretty cool - great packaging, and a complete TFE show, with some
extras. Good recording quality (far better than the Virtual Songs MP3s
I've heard). BTW, I'm still waiting for VS from Prism - what's the
betting I get it before Different Stages hits the shelves?? No takers, eh?


Neil Bonfield


From: Martin Urionaguena 
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 12:57:45 -0300
Subject: RUSH IN SOUTH AMERICA ??????????????

Just a question :

Will have some connection the name "Different stages", with "our" stages ??

Let's cross the fingers !!!!!!!

See' ya all wherever they play !

"Rush. They must have been one hell of a band."
(2112 Tourbook)
Martin Urionaguena
Buenos Aires


From: "Shasha -" 
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 10:51:29 PDT

hey this is my first time posting to this list  even though i've been 
subscribing for a fucking year (can i cuss on here? ;) just thought i'd 
start dropping my own opinions in since issue #2112 is coming up and i 
just think that's cool. well, i like to think i'm a big RUSH fan but i 
only skim this list whenever i read it so... probably not as big as you 
guys. but i fucking love them... well, i know you've heard it all 
everytime someone new starts posting stuff so i'll stop now. 

i was skimming issue 2097 when i saw someone complaining about waiting 
two and a half months for the live album. fuck, i dind't even know one 
was coming out. and i call myself a fan... well, the only reason i 
brought it up is to say this... i noticed it cause he typed it as 
2 1/2 and those numbers caught my attention. 212... coincidence? my 
locker in school was number 212 too. i was just wondering if anyone is 
as lame as me and uses numbers like 2112 and 212 for stuff. hell 2112 is 
my pin number for my bank card and 21312 is my voicemail access code 
(the 3 is my own business- don't ask :p)...

yeah so RUSH isn't my favorite band... pantera is.... does anyone else 
here listen to all metal and RUSH is your exception? RUSH is definetly 
like my 2nd or 3rd fav though... depends on my mood. but pantera is 
always on top...

everytime i've ever subscribed to a list there's people who hate each 
other, always agree with each other, etc. i'm too lazy to read a bunch 
of back issues and work it out (told ya i never really read them 
carefully)... so fill me in.... what cliques have been formed in this 
digest? hehe...

ok, not much more to say- someone write back to me so next time i 
actually have something that isn't pointless to talk about...


by the way does anyone here go on IRC? (stupid question i know- i bet 
you're all addicts)


From: "Kevin L. Kitchens" 
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:35:29 -0400
Subject: Silly Little Rush Sighting..

Was at the Tennessee Civil War Museum in Chattanooga a few 
weeks ago.  They have a display on the flag signals used in the 
civil war.  

Holding the flag to the right was position 1.  To the left position 2.  
Straight in front was 3.

Then they had predefined combinations that meant different things.  
And sure enough, on the list was 2112 (left, right, right, left).  The 
meaning: Move or Proceed. 

In war time, Moving and Proceeding could be called Rushing. :)

Kevin L. Kitchens, PEI Programming, Lithonia, Georgia
PEI Programming:         
The BEST Installer: WISE   -Info: 
The BEST Grid: SpreadOCX   -Info:


From: (Ryan  N Waggoner)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:19:03 -0500
Subject: Issue # 2112

I believe that Indy ( had a great idea for what to do
for issue # 2112.  Only, with a bit of an improvement.  I think that on
the day that issue # 2112 hits our mailboxes, we should all go out and
buy a copy of our favorite Rush album, and give it to someone we know who
isn't a Rush fan.  But (and here's my improvement), I think we should all
try and get all the *other* Rush mailing lists out there involved in this
celebration, too.  Surely they'd understand a celebration of issue 2112.

I think we should.  (But I'll leave it for someone else to organize...I
just come up with the ideas.  ;) )

"Someday we'll find it: the rainbow connection; the lovers, the dreamers,
and me."
     Kermit the Frog ("The Rainbow Connection")
Visit my page!!  <  >


From: (Ryan  N Waggoner)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:04:05 -0500
Subject: Gramamtrain (was Rush covers - part II)

<<10) 2112 Overture - Paul Roraback (from HM Records - The Mother Of All
Tributes) Paul is the drummer from the band Grammatrain who plays all the
instruments on this song.This is a great version.I almost couldn't
distinguish between this and the original it's that good!

Also, you all might want to check out 'TEN: The Birthday Album' on
ForeFront Records.  It has a cover of Grammatrain playing the song "God",
by Rebecca St. James.  (I know, it has nothing to do with Rush, BUT --- 
) You can *really* hear the influence Neil has had on Paul, especially in
this song.  He's playing all sorts of rides that Neil plays, and some
great just all around kicks butt!!

"Someday we'll find it: the rainbow connection; the lovers, the dreamers,
and me."
     Kermit the Frog ("The Rainbow Connection")
Visit my page!!  <  >


From: "Flynn, Jason R" 
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:43:59 -0500 
Subject: Freewill question

>From: (Christopher W Lindsay)
>In the song Freewill, Neil says, we have freewill, the ability to choose.
>"You can choose..."
>In Entre Nous, he says in the last verse, "some we would not choose, but
>we're not always free."  Like we may not choose, but we still are forced
>to do it?
>Is this a contradiction?

I don't see it as a contradiction at all because Neil is addressing two very
different situations.  IMO, just because we choose to exercise freewill does
not in any way mean that we're always free.  In Freewill, I think Neil is
simply saying he will choose freewill (and the unspoken lyric could continue
"if actually given a choice").

In Entre Nous, Neil is talking about different people as "islands to each
other" and how we try to make connections by "building hopeful bridges on a
troubled sea."  But at the same time Neil stresses that some people burn
bridges, and because freewill cannot determine what *other* people do, and
the bridges *other* people try to build, Neil just points out that we would
not choose some bridges.  

IMO, the summation of the distinction between the two songs is this: we all
need to exercise freewill in as great a capacity as we are capable, in the
realm of things that are under our control.  Unfortunately, some things out
of our control, and we can't have an impact on them.

Humble and dumb,



From: Cary 
Date: 	Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:24:26 -0400
Subject: Misheard Lyrics

It took me forever to get the lyrics to to Limelight.  Notable
misheard's include:

"Put aside the Aryan Nation" (Ged is of Jewish descent)
"Beyond the Lime Green"

Cary Hall

ICQ# 6956498


Date: Fri, 04 Sep 98 16:28:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Seinfeld & Rush wrote:
     "On 9/3/98, on the rerun  of "Seinfeld", George had just rearranged 
     his bathroom to make it a more pleasant place for him to do his 
     business. When Jerry came in to look at it, he opened the door, took a 
     good look around, and said, "Xanadu." Kind of a stretch, but in 
     between albums I presume we should take 'em where we can get 'em!"
     ==> I somehow pictured Jerry to be more of an Olivia Newton-John 
     fan.... :)


From: "Michael Tilson" 
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:31:25 -0700
Subject: Re: Why I want TS on the LIVE CD

>Now on to the DS setlist.  I'm squarely in the camp of those who DON'T want to
>hear CTTH or TS again.
>I don't know who's idea it was to include these "signature" songs, but if
>it was Atlantic's in hopes that >casual or new (hah!) fans would buy it,
>they're barking up the wrong tree, because CASUAL FANS DON'T >BUY LIVE

I would have to completely disagree with this last statement.  Some of my
favorite bands I got into by first buying their live albums.  If having to
decide between a greatest hits album and a live album, I ALWAYS choose the
live album, because you can feel the energy better.

One point I agree with is that I also do not want to see CTTH and TS on the
live album.  Been there, done that.  But based on my purchase history, I
can see why a record company would want a few big hits on this album to
attract a buying audience.  I think it is a good business decision.

Let's also not forget that previous Rush live albums are all on Mercury
while DS will be on Atlantic.  Atlantic wants to give that first time buyer
an incentive to buy DS instead of ESL, ATWAS, or ASOH.  If a first-time
buyer is trying to find a live recording of some of Rush's earlier hits
because he/she really liked that "Tom Sawyer" or "The Spirit of Radio" song
he/she heard on the radio, DS will be a great buy for the buyer because of
its length and song selection.  It will be a great buy for Rush because it
will give the most diverse collection to date from the Rush catalog, which
could lead the buyer to purchasing more Rush albums in the future.  It will
be a great buy for Atlantic because the consumer chose Atlantic over
Mercury.  Without some of these older songs, that first time buyer probably
would have bought ESL from Mercury.  For better or worse, that's business!

By the way, when I was just a casual fan of Rush, I owned two albums: ESL
and ATWAS.  Casual fans DO buy live albums.

Anything can happen!


From: Alex Smith 
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:25:13 -0700
Subject: beastie boys

> Madge, if you are reading this, as much as it pains me to say, I actually
> am impressed with the latest work from the Beastie Boys. I find that being
> open-minded about music "only introduce(s) me to a wider reality". Thought
> you might like to know! (But I still don't think scratching qualifies as a
> musical instrument ;-) ).

Hey, I LOVE the Beastie Boys.... They're the only "rap" group that has ever
interested me, because they're so funny and silly and just plain weird.
They are pure weirdness in a cool way. Hell, besides some Public Enemy,
they're the only "rap" I've ever liked....

Alex Smith

Subdivisions (Rush): 


From: (Christopher W Lindsay)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:07:58 -0400
Subject: Rush Misheard Lyrics

Great thread!  Somoeone should make a web page out of it, like the "Deep
Thoughts" parody page.  

Mine is from Superconductor
"They know the fallacies, that you..."

I had some more, but can't remember them right now.  I hope someone is
writing these down!


From: (Christopher W Lindsay)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:42:24 -0400
Subject: Freewill question/New Question

Well, I got a lot of good responses, however I had hoped that they would
be put on the post because it would be a nice change of pace.  I had my
own interpretation, but some of the responses made me think about it a
little differently.  Well, too bad. 

Here's another question:  please post your answer in the post, or me,
whatever.  If it's good, I'll post it, anonymously!

In "Totem", Neil says that his "unspoken holy vows" are "thoughts to keep
well hidden."  Yet, if his religious ideology is so personal, why has he
expressed his beliefs in numerous songs (Ghost of a Chance, Freewill,
Totem, etc.) and his book "The Masked Rider?"

I have my own answer, but let's here yours! 


From: Erica Marker 
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 19:52:44 -0400
Subject: Responses to a bunch of stuff

Hi all,
Okay, first off the discussion about Entre Nous and the ability to choose.
We may not always want to make a choice, but are forced to do so. This is
the story behind "Sophie's Choice". If you don't know, a young mother
(Sophie) and her little son and daughter are captured (By Nazi's if I'm not
mistaken) and held at gunpoint. Sophie must choose one of the children to
be executed, or all three will be killed. So she didn't want to make a
choice between her precious children, but she was forced to. (Don't ask
which she chose or if she didn't choose, I don't remember.)
	Next up for my opinion is the tape that is being made for Hanstones'
wife's cousin. Why did you delete Manhattan Project? That is my favorite
song on PoW. It flows so well, and the message in the song is a good one.
Man, I really need to get my own copy of PoW so I can listen to it.
	Okay, and now for my High School Rush experience. Our Marching Band (Go
Warriors!!) went on a trip, and I was sitting in the back with the cool
people in the drumline. We had a boombox, and Ric was playing 2112 and RTB.
That was the first I had heard a lot of Rush, and I loved it! After the
band trip, I had to go out and buy my own copy of 2112. That was my first
Rush album, to be followed a few years later with T4E, Chronicles (which I
lost), HYF (Thanks, Dave), Rush, and Retrospective II (which I love). I
guess you could say I am a casual fan, but all my friends think I'm a freak
for knowing so much about the band (Due to TNMS and talking to fans). And,
speaking as a "casual fan", I will buy the live album, mostly because it
contains a lot of songs on it that I do not have the studio version of. I
love the songs on DS (Looking forward to having YYZ finally) and I find
that the listening to the compilation albums/Live albums help me decide
which Rush CD to buy next.
	I am currently working on getting my boyfriend to listen to Rush.
Hopefully spending my vacation with him will turn him into a Rushian too.
Thank you, Dave for turning me into a fan, and thank you Ric for
introducing me to their music.
	Okay, that's enough for now. Sorry it's so long.
ICQ UIN#s 5155175 (Magic) and 5733077 (Erica)
Rising falling at force ten, we spin the world and ride the wind. (Rush,
"Force Ten")
I'm not looking back, but I want to look around me now. (Rush, "Time Stand
We can all get to appreciate the Beauty of Gray (Live, "Beauty of Gray")


From: Brian Robinson 
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:32:51 -0400
Subject: Mis

Speaking of "misheard" Rush lyrics - look no further than about ten
posts further down from your entry in TMNS #2096.  Joshua Lusk writes:

> This is sort of a strange Rush Sighting.  I finally think rush got
> on MTV...It was at 8:00pm on 8/28.  They finished the news up with Mix
> Master Mike, and i heard that familer opening to Tom Sawyer, and he was
> doing the whole turn table thing, etc...and then they cut off right as
> Geddy was going "Monday Warrior..."

Joshua, it's "A modern day warrior" NOT "Monday Warrior".


From: Jason Grabowski 
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 22:21:45 -0400
Subject: Live Album Venues

I could have missed it but here is a question for anobody out there.  
Does anybody know where the new live album tracks were captured? If 
anybody knows let everyone know.  Just figured I'd throw some different 
material out there.



From: Scott McDow 
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 21:04:58 -0400
Subject: donna halper & the rock-n-roll hof


For those who have never read Donna Halper's story regarding 
the "discovery" of Rush, follow the link below. For those who
have heard the story, go read it again! Maybe after you help to
nominate Rush to the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame. Remember if
you post a message and a non-rush fan flames you, that "flamer"
looks like an idiot. BUT, if you respond to said "flamers" message,
it makes *all* Rush fans look like idiots. Let the non-fans flame
all they want. Responding to them does not help this cause.



From: Grand Designs 
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 00:14:47 -0700
Subject: I don't know.

"Bill Bibber"  wrote:

>> Subject: Contrapuntal?

>>> That's what I like about this list - Every other issue causes me to
get the dictionary out.

If it weren't for this list... I probably wouldn't even OWN a


Against the run of the mill
Static as it seems
We break the surface tension
With our wild, kinetic dreams

Visit the Grand Designs Rush Site


From: Grand Designs 
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 00:19:52 -0700
Subject: I still don't know.

Rush-Manager wrote:

>>So congrats to Tom Johnson, the winner of the banner contest! Tom, I will
>>be contacting you privately about your prize!
>>Anybody else wonder JUST what this little PRIVATELY CONTACTED prize
might be? 

 >>>>>   [ For me to know, everyone else to wonder... :-)          : rush-mgr ]

My money says it's a copy of the new album.

Ummm... once it's out of course.


Against the run of the mill
Static as it seems
We break the surface tension
With our wild, kinetic dreams

Visit the Grand Designs Rush Site


Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:45:48 EDT
Subject: Live Video Questions

Is the rumored live video going to be a straight-on recording of a performance
(like show of hands) or is it going to be a collection of all four Atlantic
record tours? Just a thought....

"Follow men's eyes 
As they look to the skies
The shifting shafts of shining
Weave the fabric of their dreams...." 
Neil Peart, "Jacob's Ladder"


From: "Dave Anderson" 
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 23:12:02 PDT
Subject: Rush Sighting

Dear Fellow Rush Fans,

	Hey hows it goin?  I thought I would share this little Rush related 
thing.  I was watching MTV today, and the show was "Sifl and Olly".  
They have all these different things they do as jokes.  They were doin a 
news thing, and the weather came on.  The name of the weather board was 
called Weather Meter 2112.  I am pretty sure this was meant towards Rush 
because they really like rush.  If ya wanna catch this show, it is on 
MTV at 12:30 EST.  See ya!

                          Dave Anderson
          Go to my page-


From: stephen melnyk 
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 06:21:25 -0500
Subject: Top Ten Silliest Things About Being a Rush Fan

from the home office in Willowdale, Ontario:

>Top Ten Silliest Things About Being a Rush Fan

10.  Explaining "I Think I'm Going Bald" to the initiate.

 9.  Upon learning that a remixed "Tom Sawyer" has suddenly been released on a
sound track for a film you would not have TAKEN money to see, you start
thinking, "'Small Soldiers', huh?  Might be worth a look."

 8.  Picturing Ayn Rand and Aimee Mann beneath the sheets, going at it hot and

 7.  How your ears prick up when someone says, "Hey look, Stephen!  Red
Barchetta collector china plates!"

 6.  Praying, "Please, god, let this post be in Issue #2112."  [I already have
the frame picked out, so it can hang on my wall.  yeah, right.  has anyone EVER
printed out an ENTIRE frickin' NMS?  I did.  The average was twenty-three

 5.  Bill Banasiewicz.  [what ever happened to Steve Getz or Brian Harrigan?]

 4.  Deciding which ball shirt to wear on Office Casual Day...hmm, the g/p is
symbolic but bland, the Moving Pictures with the witch burning sends TOO MUCH of
a message, the wolf howling at the moon is cool...sigh, so many choices, so few

 3.  Catching an MST3K Rush allusion during the show and jumping up to point at
the tv and explain it to everyone while they're shouting, "Just shut up about

 2.  Discovering Rush fans who have named their pets after band members. 
[alright.  when i was thirteen i had a cat named, "cygnus".  i was thirteen,
okay !?!]

 1.  Trying to decide whether to paint a five-pointed star OR a pentagram on the
floor while listing to The Trees.

stephen melnyk
regina, saskatchewan

ps:  hey!  is there really a chagrin falls, ohio?

*(my therapist has some interesting theories about my obession with Ayn Rand as
an object of sexual distraction...but then, she looks like vaguely like Ayn Rand


From: John Gerard Lupoli 
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 10:23:32 -0400
Subject: Hemispheres is related to The Fountain of Lamneth?

Hi fellow Rushian,
	I think I just made an amazing and strange discovery. We all know that
Cygnus X-1 and Hemispheres has to do with Greek Gods and stuff. Well I'm
an expert on Greek, Roman, and Egyptian mythology. I heard of Apollo but
I never heard of Dionysus until I heard Hemispheres. Well anyway, I
thought that somewhere I might have had a chart that can translate the
name of Greek Gods to Roman (Latin) Gods and vice-versa. I found the
chart. Anyway, I saw that Apollo is the same in both Greek and Latin,
but I already knew that. Then I found Dionysus on the chart and Dionysus
in Latin is Bacchus. As in "Bacchus Plateau" from The Fountain of
Lamneth. Wow that's strange. Both songs must be connected in some way.
Has anyone made this didscovery before I did?

Matt Lupoli
Age: 14 
North Haven, Ct


From: John Gerard Lupoli 
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 10:27:01 -0400
Subject: Music Videos

Hey fellow Rushians,
	I have a music video page on my site. I have a lsiting of both song
videos, and comercially released video sets. I'm not sure if my listing
of song vidoes is correct:

Finding My Way--(Live From Don Kirshner's Rock Concert, 1974)
In The Mood--(Live From Don Kirshner's Rock Concert, 1974)
Anthem (1975)
Best I Can--(Live From Don Kirshner's Rock Concert, 1974)
Fly By Night (1975)
A Farewell To Kings (1977)
Xanadu (1977)
Closer To The Heart (1977)
The Trees (1978)
Circumstances (1978)
La Villa Strangiato (1978)
La Villa Strangiato--(Live Excerpt From Pink Pop Show, 1979)
Tom Sawyer (1981)
Tom Sawyer--(Live From Exit... Stage Left, 1981)
Red Barchetta--(Live From Exit... Stage Left, 1981)
Limelight (1981)
Limelight--(VH-1 Pop Up Video) (1981)
Limelight--(Live From Exit... Stage Left, 1981)
Vital Signs (1981)
Subdivisions (1982)
Countdown (1982)
Distant Early Warning (1984)
Afterimage (1984)
The Enemy Within (1984)
The Body Electric (1984)
Tears Are Not Enough--(VH-1 Pop Up Video W/ Geddy) (1985)
The Big Money (1985)
The Big Money--(CDV Version) (1985)
Mystic Rythyms (1985)
Marathon--(Live Canadian Release) (1987)
Marathon--(Live From A Show Of Hands, 1988)
Time Stand Still (1987)
Lock And Key (1987)
Show...Don't Tell (1989)
The Pass (1989)
Superconductor (1991)
Roll The Bones (1991)
Stick It Out (1993)
Nobody's Hero (1993)
Promise--(From Victor) (1996)
Driven (1996)
Half The World (1996)

	Is there anything in this list that's wrong or missing?

Matt Lupoli
Age: 14
North Haven, Ct


From: "DJ Benjamin" 
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 09:17:50 PDT
Subject: da da da

   And now for a humorous interlude (to tone down all this crappy 
negative mish-mash that has plagued these postings for a while):

     A friend a mine, who lives here in Florida, used to vacation in 
Northern Michigan with his folks. After he went off to college, he and 
his friends found themselves bored out of thier minds one summer. He and 
his friends decided to tag along on one of his family's vacations to 
Michigan. Of course, at that point in thier lives, he and his friends 
main highpoints of thier day was --- getting drunk. Well, the family 
went out one day to play volleyball. Of course, my friend and his 
buddies were drunk, in the a.m. hours. They went along to join in the 
volleyball game, but my friend was too drunk to play (GEEZE-- too drunk 
to play volleyball !!??)Anyways, he decided to sit in a lawn-chair and 
watch the game. After a while a lady came up and spoke to him for a bit, 
she then went over to say hi to his mom. After a few minutes of 
conversation, the lady said to my friend's mother "That's quite a nice 
boy over there, is he your son?" "Why, yes he is" she replied. The lady 
stood there for a moment, and then said "It must take a lot a patience 
to bring him on family vacations and stuff". My friends mother got a 
puzzled look on her face and said "Whatever do you mean?" The lady then 
asked, "Well, what is his exact mental-handicap?" My friend's mother 
laughed and said "Oh, he's just drunk!!"

(How is this Rush-Related, you ask? Well, in the front of a certain tour 
book, Neil relates a story of many nights drinking and playing 
volleyball, and how he always found himself going into the "Dark and 
scary woods" to retrieve the ball after it was knocked out of the 


Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:28:49 EDT
Subject: Re: Second Nature-Sept. 8th show

         S E C O N D    N A T U R E
               SEPTEMBER 8TH 1998   9 PM  

   The Iliff Park Saloon is located at the intersection of Chambers and Iliff
on the south east corner in southern Aurora. The opening band will go on at 9
pm and they will play 45 min. and we go on after them. We hope to see ya




From: Paul Turner 
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:27:01 -0400
Subject: Metheny, etc.

Newbie alert!  Hit the dirt!  Grab some real estate!  :-)

I was glad to hear Pat Metheny mentioned.  A friend of mine gave me some of 
his songs, most of which I was impressed by.  I appreciate the album 
suggestions and will have to check them out.  I borrowed "We Live Here" from 
my local library, but was not too impressed.  I'll pursue Metheny further.

In the jazz realm, I've been getting into the Rippingtons.  I wonder if Neil 
would be envious of Steve Reid's percussion kit!  If it makes a noise when 
struck, pulled, or rattled, Steve Reid has it.  Imagine those two doing a 
drum/percussion duet....

ObIntro: Rush fan since hearing "Cygnus X-1" and "Hemispheres" played and 
anlayzed in my freshman English class in high school, 1979.  Only been to 
one concert (USAir Arena, Largo, MD, April 1994).  Favorite song: "Xanadu." 
Favorite album: hard to say today; there are so many that I like for various 
reasons.  I didn't like Presto very much, so it surprised me to see how many 
folks on here really like it.  *Chacun ses gouts*, eh?

ObRushSighting: regularly see on the way to or from work the MD license 
plate "BY-TOR".  It's not on the NMS license plate page, though.

Finally, any fans of the late Michael Hedges on here?  Hedges doing a cover 
of, say, "Closer to the Heart" might not have been out of the question, 
given other covers he'd done.

Good to be here!
Glen Burnie, MD


From: (Paul J Ferrara)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:23:35 -0400

>I think we can add this to the list of misheard Rush lyrics. . .
>Joshua Lusk wrote:
>[snip] ...and then they cut off right as Geddy was going "Monday
>Anyone else got any?

yeah, but this one was more of a joke, i knew the correct lyric:

I would say jokingly "Nose Changes are permanent.... NOSE CHANGES!" in TS
for "those changes" :)

Mr. Paul J. Ferrara -- Toms River, NJ
"Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes"


From: (Paul J Ferrara)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:27:28 -0400
Subject: rush siting!!

I was playing this kickin game, Winblows 98... Its a Parody of Windows 98
with some games, and some humerous videos and such.. well one of the
videos was "Bill gates' 5 things he wanted to do before he dies":
5) Climb mount everest
4) Buy mount everest
3) Make love.... again
2) Form supergroup with Paul Allen and former members of Yes, Asia, and RUSH
1) Find cure for death.

cool, eh? :) i guess that means that Rutsey is good for _something_ :)

Mr. Paul J. Ferrara -- Toms River, NJ
"Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes"


From: (Michael Hannaman)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:06:28 -0700
Subject: Hooking up to soundboards

        Forgive my ignorance about this topic, but that's why I'm writing,
in the hope of finding someone who can enlighten me on this.  *How* do
soundboard bootleg recordings come to be made by the mass public?  The only
explanation I've ever heard is 'Go up to the soundboard guy and ask him if
you can plug your recorder into the system.'  I can't help but think how
hard all of Rush's sound people would laugh in my face (and then how quickly
they'd call security to come toss me out of the arena) if I were to ask them
something like that.
        I'm looking forward to hearing about this---
Traders welcome @

Michael Hannaman


Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:30:27 EDT
Subject: "The Modern Day Warrior..."

>>Does anyone remember Kerry Von Erich, the "Modern Day Warrior"? He was
billed that, from the line in "Tom Sawyer", in fact TS was his entrance
music for years & years. 

Yes, as an individual who once was quite a student of pro-wrestling (hey, I
was young, and I had time on my hands!)  I remember Kerry Von Erich gracing
the fabled Dallas Sportatorium many a time to sounds of "Tom Sawyer."  He,
sadly was yet another example of what fans have termed "The Von Erich
Curse"--all but one of the sons of wrestling legend Fritz Von Erich, that
being Kevin, have committed suicide over the course of the years.  Kerry's
greatest achievement was beating all-time great Ric Flair for the NWA World
title at the David Von Erich Memorial Parade of Champions in Dallas, back in
the mid-'80s.  He also came aboard the WWF in the early nineties as "The Texas
Tornado" and surprisingly beat "Mr. Perfect" Curt Henning for the Inter-
Continental title in '90 (his subsequent reign was NOT very remarkeable,
however).  In subsequent years he developed health and legal problems
involving an addiction to pain-killers (apparently he had been struggling with
it since an early eighties motorcycle crash that left one leg permanently
damaged), and then...quite suprisingly killed himself.  This was only a couple
of years following his youngest brother's suicide by gun-shot.  NO ONE
understands what troubles seem to fester in the Von Erich family psyche, which
has repeatedly claimed the lives of the young men, and everyone kind of
creepily waits to see if  Kevin--the last in line, and an individual whose
career has been dead for nearly ten years now--will morbidly follow suit (for
one I hope not...he always seemed to be the best charactered and best adjusted
of the far as one who's only a fan can tell).

What my post has to do with rush is very minimal when I look at it now!



From: Charles Muller 
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 16:24:26 -0400
Subject: Mars 2112

In response to the question about the Mars 2112 restaurant that was asked
recently, I posted this waaaay back in April.  I got it off a travel
newswire and I thought it might have been an April Fool's joke.  The
restaurant is apparently owned by an Irish company of the same name, no
idea if they are Rush fans. And rush-mgr, you were wondering if the Show Of
Hands shirts were bootlegs?  They ain't.  I bought one at the Presto show
in Toronto, inside MLG, displayed alongside all the rest.

Favourite misheard lyric: from Bastille Day, 

There's no bread
or Lebanese cake!

Charles Muller


From: (Keith Hoffman - Lord Sloth)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:31:55 -0700
Subject: rush sighting, sort of.... more of a rush moment

Today I was at a local large hardware/home warehouse type store, to buy
some casters (wheels) for one of my bass cabinets (topic of another
discussion of course). In that large store which shall remain nameless
cuz I am not in the mood for free advertising, is a major fast food
chain's express restaurant.  Well I thought I would have lunch...  my
order came to $6.12, and I dont like to carry alot of change, so I
figured I would get rid of some smaller bills and coins to get my change
in nice $5 increments. I looked in my wallet and had a 20, and a single,
and some change, so I figured I would go for $15 change, then I realized
I was handing the person $21.12, it was more of a rush moment than a rush
sighting, but it was not planned, and I thought it was cool!  I asked for
a receipt, but to my dismay, the receipt did not show the amount paid,
what a bummer! It would have been a cool souvenier!

But my stomach was full, and my amp rolls easier now that I have casters
instead of a dolly, come see the beat up cabinet that sounds great cuz I
play a jazz bass and use an SWR head, at tustin lanes, in TUSTIN CA on
Sunday Sept. 13th at 9 pm, see the kontrol-freq website for more info
(address in sig) and soundfiles.

Keith formerly known as "LORD SLOTH" © keith hoffman all sites © keith
"Insert RUSH/Peart lyrics here"  τΏτ
RUSH page:
HOMEPAGE (with links to my other pages):
KontrolFreQ page:


Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 01:50:21 EDT
Subject: ASOH concert shirt

> during the Presto tour, they sold white ASoH tshirts, with the album
> cover pic on the front, and a splash of purple, green and black with the title
> written on the back.
> [ Hm, I thought only the bootleg shirts had those pictures, they really
>   had official shirts? I don't remember seeing them...       : rush-mgr ]

Yeah, I bought it in the arena (Fiddler's Green), and payed the usual OBSCENE
amount for it.  I wasn't too keen on the Presto cover at the time.


Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:23:12 EDT
Subject: Bowling

Why all this anomosity towards bowling? Did you know that in the mid to late
70's, while on tour, Rush would have "All night bowling parties!"  Yes this is
true as Geddy mentioned it in one of his interviews in Circus magazine a long
time ago.  Any questions?


From: (Jonathan A Gilsdorf)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:21:30 CDT
Subject: Idea for #2112, Rush in Hall of Fame

Hey there everybody...
	I have an idea for issue #2112.  This might sound cheesy, but I
think it shoule be left blank.  That way we can all make it whatever we
want it to be.  It would be an excellent opportunity for all of us to
reflect on the music of Rush in our own way.  then regular postings would
resume in issue #2113.
	Also, I went onto the website and put my name on
the petition and made a post on the Inductees forum.  I URGE EVERYONE to
do the same!  There are 400 some posts on the forum, but there need to be
more!  Also, I was only #500-something on the petition.  More need to
sign up on there too!  
	Thanks for listening,
	Jon G.  


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