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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2100

                 Wednesday, 09 Sep 1998

Today's Topics:
                Re: note for Tolkien fans
                        An Omen!!!
                  Rush Sample and RRHOF
               Rush sighting: The Waterboy
                      "drum bores?"
          Somewhere, in a studio in the North...
                     Pat Metheny????
                     glad to hear it!
                      TAMPA BAY FANS
                      e-bay posting
                     melnyk and Aimee
              Freewill question/new question
               yearbook quotes w/pants down
                Rush "sighting"/butchering
               Eve Plumb LOVES the setlist
     RE: 09/08/98 - The National Midnight Star #2099
                    Re: Chargers (NRC)
                Misheard Quotes (non-Rush)
     Lake Powell Memoirs ::  ORACLE: The Dreams....
                  Alex'  vocal stylings
                       Rush Bootleg
                    Re: rush siting!! 
                   An old Rush sighting
                   Origin of "The Fly"?
                       re: Bowling
                    A RUSH moment....
                      Rush Sightings
                      RRHF postings

From: Anna 
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 19:30:39 -0500
Subject: Re: note for Tolkien fans

Robert wrote:

> So in case ya' ain't already heard, The Lord of the Rings is going to be 
> adapted (or
> interpreted,if you like) for the big screen. There will be three films made
> by New Zealand film director Peter Jackson (The Freighteners, Heavenly
> Creatures, Dead Alive...).
> Let's hope they do a better job than Bakshi did!

There's a pretty cool Q&A/Interview-type thing on this page:

At least it *sounds* like he's going to try to keep is as faithful to
the books as possible...


"All of us get lost in the darkness
 Dreamers learn to steer by the stars" ~ The Pass ~  Neil Peart


Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:26:34 EDT
Subject: An Omen!!!

This is the 100% truth, I swear!

Yesterday afternoon I picked up my new vehicle from the dealer.  After signing
the paperwork, he gives me the keys, I get in and fire up the willing engine,
and what should be on the radio but Tom Sawyer.  Now, what are the chances of
that, eh?


Hey, I just got a new car and it seems to pick up RUSH tunes too!


From: "Jamie K. Ng" 
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:16:26 -0700
Subject: Rush Sample and RRHOF

I'm new to this, so please bear with me. I don't know if anyone knows =
this or if anyone would even be interested, but it is Rush related. I =
just bought a CD by Saint Etienne which is titled "So Tough". Track #11, =
"Conchita Martinez", has a Rush sample. It's a loop of the guitar intro =
from TSOR. That's it, nothing extravagant that screams "RUSH!".
Also, if any of you have a few extra minutes, I just posted to the =
"Induct Rush into the RRHOF" message board. I am interested in comments =
and/or criticisms regarding my post, good, bad or otherwise. It's a =
personal thing, I always like to get feedback on my writings (or =
attempts at writing). My post is #491.=20
Thanks in advance.
J.K. Ng


From: Akira 
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 09:46:27 -0400
Subject: Rush sighting: The Waterboy

I don't know if anyone mentioned this before...

The preview of Adam Sandler's new movie, The Waterboy, features two songs.
One is Lonely Boy by Andrew Gold the other is the re-mix of Tom Sawyer by

That is all.



From: "Keith Hurst" 
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:04:00 GMT
Subject: "drum bores?"

hey -

John wrote:

"It's pretty futile to say who is better than who at that level of 

After many years of Rush listening, and listening to the likes of 
Bruford, Smith, Thompson, Bozzio, Vinnie-what's-his-name....and the 
rest, I would just like to agree that at these extremes of ability 
and talent the comparisons are pretty redundent, but yes - fun.

One thing I would add, IMO, only Bruford can approach Peart in terms 
of drum part composition, as opposed to technical brilliance, 
especially on Earthworks and Dig.  

For those who like to cling to the Peart-is-The-Best-at-everything 
axiom, may I suggest a listen to Jeff Berlin's solo projects, Vox 
Humana, and compare Peart playing jazz-rock versus Steve Smith 
playing jazz-rock.  Any comments?

Onward and upward!



From: Neil Bonfield 
Date: 08 Sep 1998 04:19:03 -0400
Subject: Somewhere, in a studio in the North...

GED: OK Guys, that's a wrap - the new live album 'Different Takes'. What
     d'ya think, eh?
ALEX: COOL!!! Man, were gonna get loadsa new fans with this one.
     They're gonna LOVE IT!
JANITOR (sweeping up bits of pizza from the floor): Yeah, I never
     realised Tom Sawyer could sound so different from show to show...
ALEX: But don't you think we should've included Tom Sawyer from the
     Sacremento show - that ROOOOCKED!
GED: Well...I suppose we could replace it with Tom Sawyer from Toronto?
JANITOR (scraping bits of pizza back onto plate): WHAT? That was the
     BEST, man!
ALEX (eating bits of pizza): Mmf. Tell ya what. Let's take out Closer to
     the Heart mumf - the fans don't wanna hear THAT again!
GED: OK, that makes it a nice rounded group of songs from each era, eh?
Enter the Man from Atlantic: Guys, m'kay. Like wow, man. M'kay. We know
     you like to do your own thing, m'kay, but like don't you think you
     might be alienating your fanbase, m'kay?
GED: Hey, since when have we bothered about the fans? They will buy
     anything we put out - we're infallible, eh?

'Different Takes' - track listing:
1.  Tom Sawyer - Albany, Oct 19, 1996
2.  Tom Sawyer - Buffalo, Oct 20, 1996
3.  Tom Sawyer - Dayton, Oct 22, 1996
4.  Tom Sawyer - Grand Rapids, Oct 23, 1996
66. Tom Sawyer - Toronto, Jul 2, 1997
67. Tom Sawyer - Quebec, Jul 3, 1997
68. Tom Sawyer - Ottawa, Jul 4, 1997

Let's be thankful! - I would probably buy Different Takes anyway!!

'Is that all there is?' - Bill Anders

Neil Bonfield


From: "Arnaldo L. Vincenty" 
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Pat Metheny????

For those Pat Matheny Fans, is not Metheny, it's Matheny.  But I have
to agree, he and his group are the best jazz group right now.  I've
been listening to them since I got into college, in 1985. That Lyle
Mays is one good SOB on the keyboards.  If you have listened to
Travels, their first live album/CD, "Song for Bilbao" is one of their
bests.  I miss them when they were touring early this year.  They
stopped in Atlanta and Melbourne, FL.  But I still have the chance to
see them.

Til next time...

Arnie Vincenty


From: "Chad Werner" 
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998  7:11 -0600
Subject: glad to hear it!

     This pearl was printed recently:
     "Neil never has put himself in the position of the all knowing (fans 
     have), but rather, the all wondering."
     I couldn't agree more! Once I heard (from who, I do not know), that 
     there is more value in posing difficult questions than in offering 
     easy answers. I agree.
     And this:
     "If the voices of the fans really helped shape the upcoming live CD
     offering, then let me voice my opinion loud and clear.  Yes, PLEASE, I
     would LOVE a new official video offering."
     It's a long shot, but just in case..... YES, I, TOO, AGREE! PLEASE 
     And this:
     "Madge, if you are reading this, as much as it pains me to say, I 
     actually am impressed with the latest work from the Beastie Boys."
     Glad to hear it! And, thanks for addressing me as Madge. It may not be 
     my real name, but, don't ask me why, I just love it. Call me a sucker 
     for late 70s/early 80s commercials, I guess.
     This is one of the most positive posts I've ever submitted. I agree! I 
     agree! I agree! Let me add this last bit on a personal note. Last 
     weekend I purchased some new CDs, and, dammit, I love 'em! Radiohead's 
     "OK Computer" has been talked about at some length here, but quickly, 
     it is a fantastic, freaky, work. Sleater-Kinney's "Dig Me Out" is fun, 
     fast female punky rock. And, last but certainly NOT least, Alex 
     Chilton's "1970" is genius garage rock. Get all of these if you don't 
     have them. Or, don't get them if you don't think you'll like them (I 
     don't want to sound self-important & ruin my positive vibe!).
     I love you all,
     "you're soaking in it"


From: "Robert Miceli" 
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 08:30:26 -0400

Hello People from Tamp Bay.   I'm from Toronto and I'm heading of
to Tamp Bay in Oct for a course.  I was wondering if anyone who lives 
winthin the city can help me out on some places to go a night.  Things to 
do, etc.  Please email me personally, I would appreciate that.

Thanks  Rob Miceli


From: Rocky Landsverk 
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:24:00 -0700
Subject: e-bay posting

i was wandering around the on-line auction site e-bay and i found this up
for auction. it was called "careful with that axe, alex" and is a live
bootleg. here's what the seller said. what's wrong with this picture?


first of all, they didn't play anywhere in late 1995. secondly, when was the
last time they played bytor or in the end.

what is this thing? what am i missing? the price was reasonable, too.

Rocky Landsverk - Associate Editor / Sports
Krause Publications


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 13:29:46 -0700
Subject: melnyk and Aimee

An orbital mind control laser caused stephen melnyk to say:

 8.  Picturing Ayn Rand and Aimee Mann beneath the sheets, going at it
hot and heavy.*

HAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!  EWWWW!  Aimee, okay, but AYN?!?!?!?

ps:  hey!  is there really a chagrin falls, ohio?

yup.  And a Knockemstiff, Ohio (really) and Big Bone Lick, Kentucky, and
Beaver Crossing, Nebraska, and Middle Musquodoboit, Nova Scotia, and
Mishawaka, Indiana, and Hell, Michigan, and Climax, Michigan, and Blue
Ball, Pennsylvania, and Intercourse, Pennsylvania...

And I've listened to Rush in all of them.
rush-related stickers,

Costumes, weapons and armor.  From the stone age to the space age.

"It is good to know that with the creation of Ritalin, the world will
never again be troubled by the likes of another Mozart."  Charles Budreau


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 13:35:03 -0700
Subject: huh?

An orbital mind control laser caused Paul J Ferrara to say:

>I think we can add this to the list of misheard Rush lyrics. . .
>I would say jokingly "Nose Changes are permanent.... NOSE CHANGES!" in TS
>for "those changes" :)

except its, "He knows changes aren't permanent, but change is."
mike   rush-related stickers
Costumes, weapons and armor.  From the stone age to the space age.

"It is good to know that with the creation of Ritalin, the world will
never again be troubled by the likes of another Mozart."  Charles


From: Mike Flynn 
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:51:55 -0400
Subject: MP3s

For all interested, I have a large MP3 collection (@ 3 gigs) residing at  I could use more Rush MP3's, so if you
could contribute (Rush or ANYTHING), please feel free to ICQ me (1055744)
or mail me as a second option (

Thanks and enjoy!


 =Mike Flynn=- 2nd year UVM - ICQ:1055744
"Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future.
With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded.
All we need to do is make sure we keep talking." -Stephen Hawking


From: "Flynn, Jason R" 
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 13:56:34 -0500 
Subject: Freewill question/new question

>From: (Christopher W Lindsay)
>Subject: Freewill question/New Question
>In "Totem", Neil says that his "unspoken holy vows" are "thoughts to keep
>well hidden."  Yet, if his religious ideology is so personal, why has he
>expressed his beliefs in numerous songs (Ghost of a Chance, Freewill,
>Totem, etc.) and his book "The Masked Rider?"
>I have my own answer, but let's here yours! 

I don't think Neil says that his unspoken holy vows *are necessarily*
thoughts to keep well hidden.  When I hear the line, I think Neil is listing
those things as separate.  This is how I interpret it:

"I've got: 1)Idols and Icons
           2)Unspoken holy vows (and)
           3)Thoughts to keep well hidden--the sacred and forbidden..."

The only thing he keeps well hidden are his "thoughts"--some of which are
sacred and some of which are forbidden--but for all we know, those thoughts
may encompass all, some, or none of his "holy vows".  Even if there is a
connection between his holy vows and the thoughts he keeps well hidden, he
never says (or implies) that ALL of his thoughts and/or holy vows are well


PS And another forbidden thought just occured to me:  IMHO, the songs you
mentioned (Ghost of a Chance, Freewill, Totem, etc. and "The Masked Rider")
aren't really that blatant in expressing Neil's beliefs anyway.  That's one
of the reasons for a lot of the bickering on TNMS I think.  Neil is the
master of subtlety (not to say that he's not extremely *un*subtle
sometimes....) and although he does offer his opinions on religious
ideology, very rarely does he actually say anything concrete about his own
beliefs.  And it's clear to me that he does keep a lot hidden.  Geez, just
think if he didn't--what would *we* do?  There'd be no mystery, no
confusion, no reason to really insult each other....


From: Dainis Garuts 
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:45:55 -0700
Subject: yearbook quotes w/pants down

Howdy all.

I didn't write any Rush stuff in the yearbook, but I do have a short
reference to tell about my good ol' high school days.

I was hopelessy lost in my expository writing class when I was a Sophomore
back in '86. We were taking a pop quiz "poetry test" that I was completely
unprepared for. My mind was drawing a blank for any kind of poetry to write
on the spot. Since I was listening to Manhattan Project over lunch,
naturally, I quoted one verse and chorus from that song and turned it in.
(Can you say plagiarism?) Anyways, I got a decent grade on it. No biggie.
Lo and behold, the 1986 BHS writing review came out near the end of the
year and guess what! My teacher had submitted that piece to the review team
and they printed it! argh!

The following year I asked the teacher about why she didn't ask me for
permission to print that article. She simply said "My daughter is a big
Rush fan."  =)

Hopelessly captured in print with my pants down. Heh.

"Imagine a Place.."
Dainis Garuts


From: "Eric J Staley" 
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:33:00 -0400
Subject: Rush "sighting"/butchering

Good day.  Last Sunday (9/6), I decided to avoid the 90-plus degree heat
and forego attending the Columbus Crew/NY-NJ MetroStars game in favor of
watching it on television (Univision Game of the Week).  As much as I enjoy
hearing the now famous Andres Cantor GOOOOOOOOOAL!, I turned the sound down
on the television and tuned the game in on the radio.

After an almost costly Crew turnover, the color man said that a Crew
defender had to make A decision before he could make a QUICKER decision.
The play-by-play man answered, "Hey!  Even if one decides not to make a
decision, one has still decided to make a decision!"

"What?" the color man asked.

"Well, you know, whatever Geddy Lee said."

By the way, it was a good sports weekend.  Crew wins 4-2, Buckeyes win
34-17, Maize and Blow loses to the Irish!

That is all,



From: "Sean Nyary" 
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:42:43 PDT
Subject: Eve Plumb LOVES the setlist

Hi, Rush fans!

This is Eve Plumb, and I'm here to say that it was a vicious 
rumor suggesting that I hate the set list for Dimlit Stages.
In fact...I love it! Especially Tom Sawyer and CTTH!

Now, then...

I'm going to collect up all these "misheard" Rush lyrics, and
put them all into a post in a few days. So keep those misheard
lyrics coming, and maybe we can get a good long list posted in
TNMS #2112.


Eve Plumb
Rush Fan


From: (Chuck Flowers)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:56:15 -0500
Subject: live

Top Live Albums:

Exit Stage Left

Seconds Out - Genesis - Phil singing many songs originally done by
Gabriel.  Cool.

Natural Wonder - Stevie Wonder - Japan in 1985.

Live At The Beverly Theatre - P-Funk All Stars

Live At Red Rocks - Dave Matthews Band

Live On Planet Earth - Neville Brothers

Halloween Farewell - Oingo Boingo

Sacred Fire - Santana

Lotus - Santana

Death To The Pixies - Pixies

Bring On The Night - Sting

Live In The City Of Light - Simple Minds

Gabriel Plays Live - Peter Gabriel

c money


From: "Corey Lawson" 
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:26:21 -0700
Subject: RE: 09/08/98 - The National Midnight Star #2099

> From: Brian Robinson 
> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:32:51 -0400
> Subject: Mis
> Speaking of "misheard" Rush lyrics - look no further than about ten
> posts further down from your entry in TMNS #2096.  Joshua Lusk writes:

> off right as
> > Geddy was going "Monday Warrior..."
> Joshua, it's "A modern day warrior" NOT "Monday Warrior".

It may be that way on the lyrics sheet, but it sure sounds that way on the

Tell me why I don't like Mondays...

Corey Lawson


From: (Tim Clemons)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:26:36 -0500
Subject: Inukshuk

If anyone's interested...there is a feature article (with pictures!) in the 
current issue of Country Living on eskimo carvings and sculptures from the 
canadian arctic.  

One sculpture shown is that of the Inukshuk.  For those of you who don't 
know what Inukshuk is, it's the "stone man" on the Test For Echo cover.

It's a very interesting article.  


"This is a fine place to hesitate."


From: "Ted D. Rossier" 
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 17:03:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Chargers (NRC)

At 10:25 AM 9/8/1998 -0700, rush-mgr wrote:

>ps. Oh yeah, how bout them Chargers?? Talk about LUCKY...
>(and John Carney hits from 54 yards out... bet the Bills wish they had him!
>and no, this has nothing to do with Rush -- they didn't play a Rush song at 
>the game, and I didn't see anyone wearing Rush clothing, but it's still 
>cool :-)

Hey, rush-mgr, you're a Chargers fan, too?  Woohoo!  I mean, I knew you had
*class*, but I never dreamed!  I will personally smack anyone who calls you
Holy Bitch from now on. :)

   [ As I live in San Diego, it's kind of mandatory that I like the Chargers.
     Regardless of how much they'll suck this year. ;-)           : rush-mgr ]

Ryan's the way and Natrone has the Means!  Go 'Bolts!


Ted D. Rossier
Owner/GM, Norman Invasion (AWFL)

"Individually, we are a ass,
but together, we are a genius." -Rush


From: "Smith,James" 
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:09:41 -0700
Subject: Misheard Quotes (non-Rush)

Sorry...I was just listening to this and had to share it:

Sting - The Soul Cages (A great CD once you get past how dark it is)
Why Should I Cry For You

"over the caesar salads"


From: "Chaz M." 
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:50:10 -0600
Subject: Lake Powell Memoirs ::  ORACLE: The Dreams....

Yo RUSH mates....

Yes please pass on my personal cheers to Eve Plum, tell her I spoke
to Adam.....he says it's still HER fault.....


But seriously folks....I gotta tell ya....I'm usually a pretty stone-cold
sleeper, but
on my recent expedition to Lake Powell, I had a dream that was wild and
and yes it is RUSH related....

However, before I share the good news, the bad news was, the very next night
I had a dream,
a VERY BAD DREAM....seriously....there was an accident and I lost someone
very close to
me and my life, I can't express the anguish and pain I felt.  That person is
OK though, but pray
about the ones you love in your gets you through the tough

Anyway, I don't know specifically how this came to pass, but long story
short my first dream, I had heard
on some radio station that some other station out of San Antonio (like I've
never been there but have
heard they got  a really cool rock radio station), anyway, it was being
announced that there was going to
be a special concert in Montreal featuring RUSH.  It was a celebration of
sorts, celebrating the opening of
a new venue in Montreal, it looked like one of those Canadian Football
Stadiums, but it was a lot more intimate,
at least that's the way it appeared.

I wanted to make the show, but thought I'd never be able to go, well I won
some sort of contest to go back stage
with my wife and meet Neil Peart in sort of a Q/A session with about five
other people.  It was real informal, infact we
were all eating dinner together, and just enjoying the atmosphere....or was
that hemisphere????

We were all there for about 15 -20 minutes before Neil showed up, and it was
sort of odd, he was dressed in
all black garb and almost looked like a shadow of his old self in the pre -
MP know older, but he had the
mustache (I think) and the flowing long hair, though slightly greyed a

It was a bit uncomfortable at first for everyone, since Neil was there for
us, and we had no idea what to ask him....I mean
obviously we all wanted to know how he was coping with life, but how do you
ask someone you don't really know????
He was very open and honest, but more interesting to talk to than anything,
and yes, he had a great sense of humor.

RUSH was actually midway through completing their next studio disk, so I got
the feeling this was probably between
two to five years down the I guess I still have hope for this
coming true in some way....but RUSH was there, to just
tryout some new songs and get back on stage since they hadn't been there in

I asked Neil specifically how the new disc was coming along, and everyone
perked right up, including Neil, that was refreshing.
I asked him if he could release the title of any of the new tracks, and he
told me two of them, one of which I actually remember,
but no I will not share it since I'm currently writing the lyrics for least part of it....are you listening Neil?????  What I can tell
you is that the titles of the songs, and the shape and form to approaching
this disc was a whole lot like Power Windows...and
Neil confessed to as much, that, for some reason, he wanted to approach a
90's feeling of his most recent impressions on
what the Power Windows of the 90's was fascinating talking with
him, very cool.  It was a feeling of predestination,
like there was a feeling like I had sent some lyrics to Neil, he really
thought long and hard about them, and just generated this song
that he felt was a gem, one of his favorite works...he was quite proud.

Shortly after all of that pre-show stuff, Geddy and King Lerxst came to get
Neil out on stage, and they just kicked into a rip-roaring
show, typical RUSH take off....I never did hear any of the new music
however....long about that time, while sleeping in my boat,
I was nailed in the face with droplets of rain water, as it started to rain
outside.... so I awoke...

I was blown away, literally, I mean like I HARDLY EVER DREAM AT NIGHT, I
just pass out was extremely refreshing in a
certain kind of way, even though it was just a dream...

I got the sense that the next album was taking so long because Neil was a
perfectionist, and believe me, I'm pretty certain it was
going to be well worth the fact, it may be the best one yet....

So it was refreshing, especially since, as I mentioned previously, I had a
horrible dream the next night.  Moreover, two days later,
we had an incredible thunderstorm on the Lake, it closely resembled a
Hurricane, no joke, it was very intense for about an hour or so,
totally amazing...there were waterfalls cascading over the plateaus, where
there were no streams previously...some looking harmless,
others looking like they might devaste anything in its way.

That's all for now, keep your dreams alive!!!!



From: David 
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 19:02:24 -0400
Subject: Alex'  vocal stylings

Greetings fellow Rush fans! Long time listener, first time
caller. OK, on to the matter at hand. (Ahem) I recently purchased ASOH
on video (it was great, I loved it, etc.) and when they played La Villa
Strangiato, Alex was singing, but a warning was flashed on the screen
that read something like: "Producer's apology: due to the sensitive and
inexplicable nature of the vocals, they have been deleted from this
segment.". Now my first instinct is that this has got to be a joke. Alex
was pretending to sing, but just mouthing the words. But then I thought
that there was a ghost of a chance that he actually was saying something
and that it was vulgar or obscene. Now if you folks have already gone
over this one, I apologize if I have resurrected a dead horse. But I
would appreciate any help you may have to offer. Are either of my
instincts correct, or am I way off the mark? Thank you for your time, I
now return you to your regularly scheduled listserve, already in



From: (Christine Leite)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:16:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Rush Bootleg

I hope this question isn't too obscure.  I have a Rush bootleg, St.
Louis 1981.  During "In The Mood" I swear he says "Hey Cookie it's
quarter to 8..."  and I believe on the album it is "Hey Baby..."  Has
anyone heard this?  Does anyone know why this is?  Am I just too wierd
for even asking?


From: The Fantabulous George Reimers 
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:40:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Miscallaneous 

A few things...
1. Best non-rush Live albums thread: Let's not forgot Metallica's
"Live Sh*t: Binge and Purge", with 9 hours of pure, unadulturated
Metallica, or Pink Floyd's "Pulse" with the immortal live version of
"Dark Side of The Moon".
2. I can't believe it. I have actually managed to get someone (a
fellow 16-year old, nonetheless) really into Rush. I guess I'm not
surprised, because he does listen to everything from Primus to Zep to
Jazz to Classical etc. Of course, now whenever I see him in the halls
(we go to the same High School), he sings, "concert HALLS!"
3. DS is coming out a week early? Cool! I won't be going broke on
11/17. Metallica's rereleasing "Garage days" on that day.
4. Totally Non-Rush Related: I've noticed that when people mention U2
on this list, it's always negatively (i.e. "They sold out with Achtung
Baby".) Before anyone else decides to start ripping on one of my other
favorite bands, could you please take the 5 minutes to read this page:
Thank you.


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    [ Mmmm. Forbidden donut.                                     : rush-mgr ]


From: Slim Jim 
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:02:53 +0900
Subject: Re: rush siting!! 

 Paul J Ferrara writes:
> I was playing this kickin game, Winblows 98... Its a Parody of Windows 98
> with some games, and some humerous videos and such.. well one of the
> videos was "Bill gates' 5 things he wanted to do before he dies":
> 5) Climb mount everest
> 4) Buy mount everest
> 3) Make love.... again
> 2) Form supergroup with Paul Allen and former members of Yes, Asia, and RUSH
> 1) Find cure for death.
> cool, eh? :) i guess that means that Rutsey is good for _something_ :)
> hehe

I have never understood the tendency among NMS contributors 
to attack John Rutsey.  It's almost as if people think that 
slagging off his predecessor is a clever way to worship Neil 
Peart.  John Rutsey left Rush because he didn't like the
direction G&A wanted to go in.  What's your problem with
that?  He was a member of a band which released a successful
album, which is more than you can say for yourself, I 
expect.  Leave the guy alone.



From: Vinicius Paulo de Seixas Filho 
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 22:57:15 -0300
Subject: An old Rush sighting

Hi Rush-Addicts!

  Here in Brazil, in the 80's, "Tom Sawyer" was the TV show "McGyver"
teaser song. We could hear TS every week playing on TV (just
instrumental parts). 

  And that was how a lot of us, brazilian Rush fans, were introduced to
Rush. One day a friend of mine ask me if I knew Rush, I replied "Rush
what?" and he said "the band which plays the McGyver song"... Some years
after I bought ASOH (aha, casual fans DO buy live albuns), and now I
have all the albuns and consider myself a great fan... :-))))

  Till now when I want to introduce someone to Rush I say "remember the
music that used to play just before McGyver? That's Rush..."

  In the mid-80's the same TV network made a contest and used
instrumental parts of "Red Sector A" as the theme... Really cool! 

May the force be with you!
Vinicius Paulo de Seixas Filho


From: sberrett 
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 21:07:01 -0400
Subject: Expert?

no disrespect intended, but you said:

> Well I'm
> an expert on Greek, Roman, and Egyptian mythology. I heard of Apollo but
> I never heard of Dionysus until I heard Hemispheres.

you're an "expert" and never heard of Dionysus? um, okay.


Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:23:38 EDT
Subject: Origin of "The Fly"?

On the bootleg page of the NMS site, it say's it was unknown exactly where the
bootleg title of "The Fly" came from for the Dec. 7, 1991 Roll the Bones show.

I was reminded of this today when listening to the song "Dreamline" (note,
from Roll the Bones), when I heard the lyric "we're only at home when we're on
the fly, on the fly."  Of course, the image of "riding" around on a fly is not
all that appealing, is it?

   [ Now that you mention it, it DOES look like we're on the fly for that
     cover... heh...                                             : rush-mgr ]



From: (Sean Jones)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:47:03 -0600
Subject: Freewill/Rand

>Oh, and to all the Randites that will post saying "there are no
>contradictions, check your premises, one of them is wrong"...bah.  While
>factually that is true, emotionally it is not that simple.  While Ayn Rand
>may have "never had an emotion [she] couldn't explain," that's not most of
>us ..and that is Neil's point, IMO.

Thank you Dan! I'm glad to have something meaningful to read! :) Seriously,
though, it's a very good point(s) you were making in the whole message
regarding Freewill, Entre Nous, and Ayn Rand. And as a little side opinion,
I'm quite sure Ayn had MANY emotions she THOUGHT she could explain, but was
wrong about them :)

>From what I can tell, very often Neil will have differing points of view on
the same topic/subject. This isn't to say he's inconsistant (though
sometimes he IS. People do grow and change.), but rather things aren't
always black and white, right and wrong. Hell, he even wrote a song about
it (Color of Right, anyone?) It's something I rather like about his lyric
writing, in that there can sometimes be another point of view on a subject,
and it makes you think.


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From: (Keith Hoffman - Lord Sloth)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:00:15 -0700
Subject: re: Bowling

someone from aol wrote>>>

>Why all this anomosity towards bowling? Did you know that in the mid to late
70's, while on tour, Rush would have "All night bowling parties!"  Yes this is
true as Geddy mentioned it in one of his interviews in Circus magazine a long
time ago.  Any questions?>>>>>

Bowling is cool!

My band, Kontrol FreQ is playing at TUSTIN LANES, in TUSTIN CA this
sunday night, at 9pm!  (sept 13th) (714-731-5022)

People get to bowl while we play!  I may play a few rush phrases on my
bass between songs to see if any rush fans are there =)

info and soundfiles are on the band page!  address is in the SIG file!
along with some of my other cool pages!

Keith formerly known as "LORD SLOTH"  keith hoffman all sites  keith
"Insert RUSH/Peart lyrics here"
RUSH page:
HOMEPAGE (with links to my other pages):
KontrolFreQ page:


Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:47:39 GMT0BST
Subject: dictionaries

Dear All,

I am glad to see that contrapuntal got some of you going.  Watch out 
for more hard words in forthcoming mails.  The Miles Davis number in 
question was Gone from his Porgy and Bess recording.  Truly 

Rush content:  Surely it's 'they know the phalluses that they romance to'?



From: "nancy salmon" 
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 07:13:43 PDT
Subject: A RUSH moment....

>.....well, for me it was anyway......

Recently I took a trip to visit my dear friend Trent in his lovely home 
of Edmonton, Alberta.  Our visits with each other are indeed precious 
and few since we are separated by many states and one big black 
international border line, but as is with true and lasting friendships 
we share many things that miles will never divide.  One of which, and as 
fate would have it the very thing that brought us together, is our love 
for RUSH (much to the dismay and misunderstanding of some of our family 

The city of Edmonton has a great custom of fund raising that I was 
totally unfamiliar with since it has never been done here in the south:  
they have lottery homes.  Buy a ticket or two or three, help a charity, 
win a home!  Sounds like a winner to me.  So.....on a beautiful sunny 
Saturday in Edmonton we made a pilgrimage to visit three of these 
beautifully decorated, well appointed dream homes.  As we wandered 
through the second of the three, I look up and see Trent flashing me a 
smile that immediately told me something was up.  Leading me to the 
sofa, still smiling, he tells me that he has found something that I just 
won't believe!  Well, he was right!

Remember I said these homes were 'well' decorated, right?  On one end of 
the sofa has been placed a guitar, with three LPs casually placed around 
it.  On top of the LPs.......I look down and see.......Permanent Waves!  
We laughed!  No one else in that house could possibly understand what 
was going through our minds!  And.....we didn't care!  It was one of 
many moments, it was a sign, it was, for US, something we'll smile about 
for years to come.   

So what did we do?  Well, of course we sat right down and inspected it.  
Every one else is oohing and ahhhing over the house, he and I are sittng 
there reverently looking at RUSH.  Unfortunately it was only the cover, 
or maybe someone had enough sense not to put the LP out, I dunno.   But 
I do know that there she was, just waiting for he and I!  

This happened the Saturday afternoon before I left, and it was the 
perfect end to a wonderful week that I was able to spend with him.  It's 
true, people, the simple things in life mean the most!

Or, maybe I just don't require alot.......I dunno.....  



Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:57:54 EDT
Subject: Sequencing?!?

Question for all you technological musicians out there.  (I'm a drummer, so
that really doesn't count! :) )  How does Geddy sequence background vocals
live?  I'm specifically referring to parts where he harmonizes with himself in
perfect pitch and perfect time with the song.  I know the boys all have
triggers linked to pedals, keyboards and percussion pads, but I don't
understand how Ged can sing a lead vocal while a prerecorded vocal sings right
along with him at the same time!  If you listen to Mirrors version of Show
Don't Tell, you know what I'm talking about.  Mystic Rhythms is another good
example.....Ged sings the line "Capture my thoughts, carry them away" while a
prerecorded vocal harmonizes over the top, then in the last chorus, he sings
the higher harmony himself.

I know Neil doesn't wear headphones (except during Red Sector A), so they
can't be played on a click track.  As far as I can tell, they are triggered
live, but seem to fall right in with the song's tempo/timing.

I don't think he uses a harmonizer or any similar effect to accomplish this,
but I really don't know what technology can pull off live!  Please enlighten
me, thanks!



From: ron 
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:21:45 -0400
Subject: Rush Sightings

I was at Disney's EPCOT last weekend, and I heard Tom Sawyer played by a
Scottish Rock band Bagpipes and all! Now that was a shock but it sounded
kind of cool.Just thought ya all should know!    Ron.  


Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:55:21 EDT
Subject: RRHF postings

I just posted my message to the Hall of Fame board.  #656!!!  What an
incredible outpouring of support for the boys!  I am very proud of the
showing!  Off to type my letter now for snail mail!  POST & WRITE!!!!


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