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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2116

                  Tuesday, 13 Oct 1998

Today's Topics:
                      re:final word
                   the stars like dust
                     a gift for 2112
                    Rush CD's for Sale
                    Money for Nothing
                   Who Assumed Control?
                 Rush on New Mexico Radio
        Laser Disc for Different Stages Protest!!
                        Neel Peert
                        issue 2112
                     CTTH - ironical?
            The Studio Wall... official launch
                  Rush fans other faves:
                  Regarding Puerto Rico:
                  Deathorgan, psychodots
                     the new web site
              $19.97 Different Stages listed
Help Save The Radio Station That Discovered Rush (Let's Hope
                    No Rush in the Car
                        CD rom????
                   Latest Live CD News
                 Rush Sighting (hearing)
                different stages available
                     rush and voting
                    Re: fenderbumpers 
            Re: dire straits and bill bruford 
  Re: Information for "Different Stages" Japanese press
                   Re: consumer alert 
                     Where to buy DS?
                   Different Stages dvd
            more November 10th action, baby!!
                      Rush Sighting
   Different track order from CDnow, Atlantic web site
                    DS Listening Party

From: (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Tue Oct 13 10:08:41 PDT 1998
Subject: Administrivia

Along with the new look of the website, I've added a new section at the
very bottom of the page, called "Horizons". It's meant to give you an 
opportunity to hear a clip from various artists, and perhaps get you interested
in something besides Rush :-)

I plan on updating it every day or two, so be sure to check back a LOT to
get all the new clips! If you have any suggestions for songs let me know!

Also, there's a new banner that was pulled from Atlantic's website that
is slightly different, it's now claiming the 1978 CD is an "enhanced" CD.
Is it true? Guess we'll all find out on November 10th!

Finally, I'm putting together a list of radio stations that you can bug
about getting the new Rush played. If you know of one in your area, send
me email with the station's web site, email address, phone number, and
cities it serves.

 - rush-mgr


Date: Sat, 10 Oct 98 01:30:47 +0000
Subject: re:final word

Fellow Rush heads ......the answers is written in the lyrics in black and Red

Oracle The Dream
 "They left our planets long ago
  the elder race to learn and grow
  Their power grows with purpose strong
  to claim the home where they belong"

So there you have it
 the elder race has assumed control! 

              Now it's Dark!


From: stephen 
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 21:27:23 -0500
Subject: the stars like dust

Michael Z. Williamson breathed:
> An orbital mind control laser caused "Eric J Staley" to say: 
> I have seen Cygnus, and I own a part of it!  There is an International 
> Stellar Registry (or something like that) in Europe that sells ownership 
> of stars.
> I'm not sure if they are still in business, but there was a lawsuit a while 
> back--the Registry has no legal standing to record the names anywhere other 
> than their own catalog.  No astronomical group recognizes their names or 
> authority.  They may still be doing it, but the names are not official, 
> and have no standing--they used to claim it was an official name you were 
> buying.

> mike

my paranoid sca colleague is quite correct.  the only 'official' organization
for stellar nomenclature recognized by star catalogues is a subcommittee of the
International Astronomers Union.  there is a committee for different
astronomical objects (stars, planets, moons, crates on planets/moons, stephen's
writings, etc.).  this according to carl sagan, perhaps you have heard of him?

the certificate is not worth the paper it is written on.  they have probably the
'sold' the visible stars (3000 or so) dozens of times over.  and really, who
COULD seriously try to lay legal claim to a star?  you'd be better off trying to
own Neil's dexterity (obligatory rush content) at doing a fast paradiddle. could use a certificate template from your word processor...and send me
twenty bucks.  if one outa ten nms subscribers believe this, that could
mean...what, uh, what $200,000 bucks, huh?  AMERICAN FUNDS ONLY !  not moroccan

rush mgr:  how many subscribers are there?  or was that answered in #2112 ? 
ack!  i deleted it !

   [ We have around 5000 actual subscribers, but readership is probably
     much higher since many of those are listservs..        : rush-mgr ]

i'll be under the bed, quietly weeping in case anybody needs me,

stephen melnyk,
regina, saskatchewan


From: Grand Designs 
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:19:40 -0700
Subject: a gift for 2112

In celebration of reaching issue #2112, I thought some people might like
a copy of something I put together a while back. It's a collage I made
in honor of "The National Midnight Star". Offering it now, to some of
the newer members here on the list, is the best thing I can do to pay
homage to the list, its' members and the rush-mgr (s).

Well done Jimmy & Meg.

Here's to another two-thousand, one hundred and twelve issues......

Against the run of the mill
Static as it seems
We break the surface tension
With our wild, kinetic dreams

Visit the Grand Designs Rush Site


From: Alex Smith 
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 23:15:32 -0700
Subject: spiritual

Hello y'all,

Sorry for cross posting this, but I want to get it through.

I just saw the excellent movie "Pi" tonight, and it left me thinking. Are
there any other people on this list who believe--in a sense--that music can
be somehow a "window to God" or some sort of spiritual tool? Please, e-mail
me, I'm interested in some dialogue and perhaps setting up some sort of web
site or mailing list about "musical mysticism" or whatever you want to call
it. I personally find good music to be a higher force than anything but
true love, which is also, in my book, connected to God somehow. I believe
in God (or whatever one choses to call it/them) but I'm not a member of any
religion or cult or anything.

This could be interesting if anyone wants to talk about it.

NP: Peter Gabriel "Passion" (this is EXTREMELY COOL!)

Alex Smith

Subdivisions (Rush): 


From: (Greg Hall - EA)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 08:36:07 -0400
Subject: Rush CD's for Sale

I started replacing my Rush CD's with the I'm offering some
awesome CD's at a cheap price.  Email me if interested.

Rush - Moving Pictures
Rush - Permanent Waves
Rush - Hemispheres
Rush - 2112

CD's are $4/each, plus shipping.

Greg Hall
Pontiac, MI  USA


From: "Edward R. Brogden" 
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:49:24 -0400
Subject: Money for Nothing

Coupla quick items - BrianB, may I add to your point that other bands
would die without radio play, and add the words to radio play:  and a
cool video? I really think that it seems you just need a great video on
MTV, and then the airplay follows - the music doesn't actually have to
be good, just hip with kids. Especially with teenage girls - they seem
to be the ones record companies are appealing to nowadays.

A while back, in the Baltimore area I saw an ad in a local musicians
paper looking for a guitarist for a reunion of a Rush tribute band,
called Second Nature - does anyone know who they are, if they are
playing anywhere in Balt/DC/Philly region yet? Would love to see them in
the absence of a Rush tour. :-)

ed brogden


From: John Lupoli 
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:12:22 -0400
Subject: Who Assumed Control?

Hi fellow Rushians,
	Many of you have been wondering who assumed control in 2112. I'd say it
was the elder race of man. Check out the 2112 tour book at the tour book
sectionof It says that the priests were murdered by the
people. They were ripped to shreds. It must of been the elder race of

Matt Lupoli
North Haven, Ct


Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:04:11 EDT
Subject: Rush on New Mexico Radio

So I'm driving back from New Mexico with my brother and we were listening to a
classic rock station (98.1 out of Santa Fe), when "Limelight" started.  My
bro, who has slowly emigrated into Country/Westernville, says "this is the
only song they ever play by Rush on the radio."  I didn't bother mentioning
that obviously he hadn't been tuned in lately to hear Tom Sawyer.

I was glistening with pleasure about an hour later when "Time Stand Still"
came on, and when it ended the DJ said something like, "there's Rush,
featuring probably the greatest drummer of all time Neil Peart."  Of course he
pronounced it "Pert."

"We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out."
Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962 


From: al 
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:50:54 -0400
Subject: Laser Disc for Different Stages Protest!!

Attention owners of laser disc players:

        Is one of the reasons you invested in a laser player so you could 
play all the Rush lasers previously available? Well I bought one for that 
reason & now after purchasing all the previous Rush lasers (except Through 
the Camera Eye) I find that they are abandoning us in favor of dvd! What the
hell? We have been loyal to the end with this band. If you are as upset as 
me, please give me contact numbers, e@mail, etc.. to protest this situation. 
Different Stages should be released on laser! We are still here! We still buy 
laser discs!

Al Burr


Date: Fri, 09 Oct 98 20:47:23 -0500
Subject: Neel Peert

     Paul Smith wrote:
     "On a number of things. What Slim says about English pronunciation is 
     correct, but, by the same token, nobody here says Zed-Zed Top.  You do 
     not have to be consistent.  Part of the fun is knowing that letters 
     and combinations of letters have different values, even within the 
     same language.  But while we are at it, how do you pronounce Peart?
     Like Heart? Pert? Peert?  More to the point, how does he pronounce 
     To Paul et al->  This pronunciation thing will always have its place 
     here on TNMS. :)  I just wanted to add that regarding "ZZ Top", I have 
     always pronounced it as "zee-zee top" (and that's the only way I've 
     heard it here in Canada).
     Now regarding dear Mr. Peart's name, I seem to recall an interview he 
     had on Toronto radio around the Signals era, when the DJ put the very 
     same question to him.  "How do you pronounce it?"  To which Neil 
     replied (and I may be paraphrasing here), "It's not 'part', 'pert' or 
     'purt', it's 'peert'."
     I agree that band names can frequently be open to interpretation, with 
     little harm done when in error.  However, a person's name should be 
     respected, and we should strive to use the correct pronunciation at 
     all times.
     Signing off at 33,000 feet over Detroit.


From: "Russel T. Aceto" 
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:03:34 -0600
Subject: issue 2112

Just wanted to delurk long enough to let our intrepid mgrs. know that i
appreciated issue2112 not having known the history behind TNMS i agreeed
with their rational and thank them for saluting the digest and themselves.
Thanks again and
 take care,

"There is magic at your fingers." -N. Peart
"For in the deepest darkness,
even the faintest light seems bright."-Hogarth


From: Andy 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:35:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: CTTH - ironical?

A rugged individualist, does Peart really mean for us to take his lyrics 
at face value in "Closer to the Heart?"

"And the men who hold high places must be the ones who start to MOLD
a new reality...."

Would Peart, a self-described "left-wing libertarian" want a "new reality"
orchaestrated from the TOP DOWN?  The "men who hold high places" line
seems to imply an ideal CENTRALISM.  The following lyrics, including the
examples of industrial and agricultural workers cannot help but conjure
visions of the old hammer and sickle....  Are not the priests of 2112 fame
simply men who held the high places and molded their own (albeit
deplorable) new reality?  

I think Peart is an incredible lyricist (and, of course, drummer), and I
think the lyrics of CTTH are both beautiful and brilliant, but I wonder -
are they meant to be ironical?  I'm actually very interested in this
question (I quoted the song in my graduation speech!) and I'd be
interested to know how others interpret this- please feel free to email me
about this personally (  I'd love to hear your

Peace out-

"This is getting rather abstract, but, thank you.  I do enjoy working at
the bowling alley."  -- Homer J. Simpson  


From: Grand Designs 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:34:17 -0700
Subject: The Studio Wall... official launch

O.K folks, time to put this baby into overdrive!

Introducing... A Tribute to the National Midnight Star.

Introducing... "The Studio Wall"

Sign on at:

Against the run of the mill
Static as it seems
We break the surface tension
With our wild, kinetic dreams

Visit the Grand Designs Rush Site


From: "David Ayers" 
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:32:55 -0400
Subject: Rush fans other faves:

I forgot who came up with this thread, but I like the idea of listing =
our other favorite bands.  Especially because most Rush fans I know have =
quite varied tastes.  I feel the need to make two lists: one for =
all-time faves and one for more current faves.  Many of my all-timers =
have stopped recording.  I hope that isn't a reflection on my musical =

    1.    Rush  (if you hadn't guessed this one, DUH!)
    2.    Billy Squier    (this guy just made some great tunes for about =
5 year, still love them all)
    3.    The Fixx**    (actually have returned with a solid new CD, but =
I'm not sure anyone else knows)
    4.    Robert Plant (solo)   =20
    5.    tie: Alan Parsons Project (always quality, intriguing music, =
if not always great) and Pink Floyd

    1.    Rush=20
    2.    Dream Theater    (arouses passion in me like no one else =
    3.    Jeff Buckley     (oh shit, he's dead)
    4.    Del Amitri    (these guys write some great, almost visual =
    5.    Sarah McLachlan    (beautiful voice, wonderful songs)

I'll even go one farther and list my top albums of the 90's (a little =
early, I know, but I'm not feeling optimistic about 1999, considering I =
am buying fewer and fewr albums every year)
1.Rush -Counterparts    - gets better everytime I hear it
2.Sting - The Soul Cages     - his best=20
3.Sarah McLachlan- Fumbling Towards Ecstasy    -
4.Jeff Buckley - Grace     - Billy Joel was right, the good die young
5.Dream Theater - Awake    - nicely varied
6.Robert Plant - Fate of Nations    - his triumph, the cumination of a =
solo career
7.Del Amitri - Change Everything    - great lyrics, great music, their =
8.Dreams So Real: Gloryline - how in God's name was this so overlooked??
9.Van Morrison- Enlightenment    - excellent from start to finish
10.Rush-Test For Echo    - hard to top Counterparts
11.Dream Theater- Falling into Infinity    - these guys keep improving
12.Sting - Ten Summoners Tales    - same quality as Soul Cages but =
13.Victor    - Alex flexing the muscles!
14.Duran Duran    - I'm not nuts!  Listen to it!
15.Plant - Manic Nirvana    - a relief after Now and Zen and its =
Honorable mention goes to Saga for Generation 13 (impressive, perhaps =
their best!) and King of Fools (self-titled).  Don't bother looking for =
the second one, I got it from working in radio and probably no one will =
ever see another one, but I played it over and over for two months =

I'm really curious to hear from other folks. =20


"There's something wrong with us.  Something very, very wrong with us!  =
Something seriously wrong with us!!  We're Rush fans!" - paraphrase of =
Bill Murray


From: "Kurdian,  LT. Armen H" 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:02:56 -0700
Subject: Regarding Puerto Rico:

Dan replied:

>>The other memorable one was going to a show two days after I got back
from Puerto Rico, which had been a miserable experience, so it was great
to see them in concert.<<

My friend, being here is not a "miserable" experience, I guess being in =
the militray IN Puerto Rico is.  Thanks for trying to put us down, as =
many US residents do...

Oh yes, I am a Puertorrican RUSH fan, just one of many here in this =
beautiful Island!!!

Let the flickering torchlights burn me... private messages welcome...

Daniel Rivera

>>Yes, my experience in Puerto Rico was most unpleasant because of the
work I had to do, was not able to go out and have fun, and a plethora of
other matters.  The local populace, where we are allowed to go, were
polite and friendly, but rest assured there were lots of places off
limits to all military personnel because of very high incidents of crime
against them, which NCIS tells us about all the time.

If you've never been to NAS Roosevelt Roads, the whole place just
depresses you.  But I did try some mofongo as I was told, and that was
pretty good...only problem?  Not enough garlic!

I'm stuck here in the middle of the Gulf right now, so I'll have to get
the new live album when I get back....something to look forward to I
guess. --Armen



From: Peter Beshuk 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:47:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Deathorgan, psychodots

Could anyone give me info on how to get a copy to the TS cover by DeathOrgan?

Also, I think there may be a few psychodots fans on this list.  You'll be
interested to know that they just release a live "Official Bootleg" 2CD set.
Check the website for details, you can order it there.



From: Thomas Gillingham 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:46:10 -0500
Subject: the new web site

Hey rush-mgr, great job updating TNMS web site!  "It looks maaah-velous."

Uh, I guess that's, um, all I had...or something.


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Send Your Letters Of Support To:

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1290 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10104


From: Will Collier 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:10:21 +0100
Subject: $19.97 Different Stages listed

Here's another pre-release sighting on the web... is
offering Different Stages for $19.97, the lowest price I've seen yet
(they show the list price as $24.97).  Still no cover image to go with
the ad.  CD Universe is also calling this a "2 CD Set".

Music Boulevard ( is listing the album, but no price is up
yet.  They also have a rather bizarre track listing that mixes up tracks
from all three discs...

 -Will Collier


From: "R.G. Terrez" 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:19:38 -0700
Subject: Help Save The Radio Station That Discovered Rush (Let's Hope

BUZZARD RADIO, 100.7 WMMS, has lived a full life. The citizens of the
NorthCoast have lived, laughed, loved and most importantly ROCKED with WMMS
for 30 years but sadly the time has come to lay the BUZZARD to rest.

Don't cry, the "grand bird" would not want that to happen. Instead of a
wake, let's throw a party, a celebration in honor of the life of the BUZZARD!

During the month of October, 100.7 WMMS will relive the greatest moments,
and yes there are many, of BUZZARD radio. For the next month, we'll hear
from Kid Leo, Dia Stein, the legendary "Boss" concert from the Cleveland
Agora, John Mellencamp captured in a rare acoustic performance plus more
treasures and world class rock that were only heard on 100.7 WMMS. 
Thanks for keeping BUZZARD RADIO 100.7 WMMS on the air for 30 years and get
ready for a new radio station at 100.7 November 1st. 

Go To

For More Information


From: Aset 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:45:36 -0700
Subject: No Rush in the Car

Hi all!
I just got a new car.  The 89 Geo Metro with 171,000 miles on it finally
gave up and died.  So I got a 97 Mercury Tracer.  The only bad part about
it is it has no tape deck.  It is tragic to not be able to play Rush tapes
at will.  Usually I go through my 6 pre-sets on the radio, and when I find
nothing more entertaining than Rush, I push in whatever Rush tape is in my
cassett deck.  Now I have to rely on the radio to play Rush for me, and
they just don't do it often enough for my tastes.

Yes, the obvious thing to do would be to buy a cassett deck, but
unfortunately buying the car has tapped me out of money at present.  So
what to do in the interim?  I got a lighter adapter and hooked my Walkman
up to it and bought some little speakers for it.  But the speakers are
really pathetic.  My big question is, can you hook a walkman up to the
car's stereo system, the speakers of which are quite good?  Or is some
there some sort of electronic differential that can't be easily fixed?

I'm going through sever withdrawl.  It's horrible.  Although a few days ago
the local rock station played the one song that I can't have in the car:
Red Barchetta.  I've had to be strict with keeping that song out of the car
because I speed horribly when I drive and listen to it.  And now I've got a
bigger engine.  Luckily there were no cops to catch me:)  And that same
radio station, the very next morning played Spirit of Radio.  The DJ was
supposed to say, "This is 98 Rock with Rush," but the DJ said, "98 Rush",
and after initial teasing the other DJ's decided that 98 Rush was a great

Crystal Calligraphy		..."wind in my hair		shifting and drifting..."		-Peart


From: Mark Blanchette 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:01:43 -0400
Subject: CD rom????

I've heard rumors floating around about a Rush CD-Rom.  Anyone have any
concrete information on this???

Also,  where can the symphonic rush be ordered from??

Grymwish a.k.a. mb


From: Perry Keenan 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:28:45 -0500
Subject: Latest Live CD News

Get the latest news on the Different Stages CD at the Atlantic Records RUSH
web sight.  Hope you enjoy...

Also, according to, they have in stock the T4E enhanced CD?
 Does anyone have this or know what it is?  If so, please e-mail me back



(Copy & Paste)


From: Richard Matusow 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:33:59 -0700
Subject: Rush Sighting (hearing)

At the 4th game of the NLCS in the start of the 9th inning, the stadium 
organist at Qualcomm stadium played Subdivisions.  Not to badly either!


P.S.  Rush-mgr: Have you given up on the Dolts (oh... I mean Bolts)?
         Have you made it to any of the playoffs?


From: Mike Jones 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:20:42 -0700
Subject: different stages available

I just pre-ordered mine at CD Universe--I assume you can also at CDNow
and other places.


From: "Daniel Ware" 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:34:05
Subject: leaving..

Hey gang...
Just to let any of you who might care, that I'll be leaving the list soon,
as I make the big move to Albuquerque for a new job...I'll be off line for
some time, as I won't have E-mail at work, and Lord knows how long it will
take me to get on line at home...
I've enjoyed my time here at the NMS, and will miss the discourse and
discussions we've had.. 
I'm so greatful that there is a place where I can come and talk about Rush
and no one chimes in with "Rush? They suck!!" 
I'm telling you this now, just to get it out of the way before my last day
on line... 
Thanks again everyone. If any of you are in Albuquerque, or will be in the
near future, E-mail me privately, and perhaps we'll get together for a beer
and some music...
Cheers from New Mexico..
The ship sank...
Get over it.


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:31:04 -0700
Subject: fenderbumpers

Slim Jim asked:
>I have a question - how come you refer to "fenders" in American
>English when we (Brits) call them "bumpers", yet you still talk
>about "bumper stickers", not "fender stickers"?  

In every English speaking country I've lived in or have family in (just
about all), bumpers are the metal or plastic things that reduce impact
in minor accidents.  Fenders here are the panels that bolt onto the
front sides, next to the hood or bonnet.
"Quality is a bit like oats.  If you want good, clean, fresh oats, you
must pay a fair price.  If however, you can be satisfied with oats that
have already been through the horse...that comes a little cheaper."

John P. Husvar


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:41:57 -0700
Subject: rush and voting

Neil Bonfield said: 
"Michael Z. Williamson"wrote:

>There is an election in November....

>>I could find no Rush content here whatsoever. This is a Rush digest 
>>isn't it? 

Are you saying getting involved is NOT Rush content?  "Folks have got to
make choices.  And choices got to have voices."--Neil Peart.  Feel
better now?  

Not a political rallying tool. 

I named no politicians or parties.  If you regard urging people to vote
as "rallying," you are clearly part of the problem in this country.

This is also a very international digest, so not all of us have
elections in November. 

but most are and do.  We have mention of a Japanese release that most of
us will never see.  Should we start deleting anything not
internationally relevant?  going to be a short list.  

Let's talk about
Rush, please!

I noted no Rush content in your post, either.  If you don't like what I
have to say, ignore me.

"Quality is a bit like oats.  If you want good, clean, fresh oats, you
must pay a fair price.  If however, you can be satisfied with oats that
have already been through the horse...that comes a little cheaper."

John P. Husvar


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:48:55 -0700
Subject: yyz said:

>And to throw a bit of Rush content on this, "YYZ" was written by a 
>Canadian rock group, and is a reference (as we all know) to Toronto's 
>Pearson Int'l Airport's flight code.  Therefore, the correct 
>pronunciation is "why-why-zed".

Sorry. Ask anyone involved with aircraft or the military--it is
pronounced "yankee yankee zulu."  Phonetic spelling.  And "Rush" would
be pronounced "Romeo Uniform Sierra Hotel."  
"Quality is a bit like oats.  If you want good, clean, fresh oats, you
must pay a fair price.  If however, you can be satisfied with oats that
have already been through the horse...that comes a little cheaper."

John P. Husvar


From: Slim Jim 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:03:38 +0100
Subject: Re: fenderbumpers 

"Michael Z. Williamson" wrote:

> In every English speaking country I've lived in or have family in (just
> about all), bumpers are the metal or plastic things that reduce impact
> in minor accidents.  Fenders here are the panels that bolt onto the
> front sides, next to the hood or bonnet.

Oh - so actually what we call the "front wing" in England, not the 
bumper.  Thanks for the explanation.



From: Slim Jim 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:16:06 +0100
Subject: Re: dire straits and bill bruford 

"Michael Z. Williamson" wrote:
> >Andy Golborne said:
> >Bruford
> >There was one album after this called "Gradually Going Tornado" which 
> >has Alan Clarke on guitar.
> The keyboard player from Dire Straits plays guitar?????

Yeah!  He also used to play football for England and Leeds United 
actually, and more recently he's been a Conservative member of 



Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:22:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Information for "Different Stages" Japanese press

 SUZUKI Jun'ya wrote in the following email about the new RUSH live
cd in Japan coming out w/ a bonus track. Does anyone have or know
where someone from the US can order that version of the CD?

Thank you,


From: Slim Jim 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:30:41 +0100
Subject: Re: consumer alert 

Chuck Flowers wrote:
> This is just to warn you about the new Depeche Mode singles collection
> (ripoff).  It is all previously released material on 2 discs.  So whats
> the problem?  Lack of music.  The first disc has ten songs and lasts 41
> minutes and the second disc has 11 songs and lasts only 55 minutes.  That
> leaves about 39 unused minutes on disc one and about 25 unused minutes on
> disc two.  That's over an hour of unused space. 

I'm sorry, but this is an idiotic argument frankly.  You are 
paying for an album of music, not a container of music like a 
litre of bottled water or something.   The fact that it is 
physically possible to fit more music onto a CD does not imply 
that there's an obligation to do so; why should it?  They wanted 
to release a specific set of tracks and they used the minimum 
quantity of CDs per album necessary to achieve that.

When you buy  music you are paying for production costs, artistic
creativity and performance, studio time, not CD capacity.



From: Ed Lovell 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:46:08 -0400
Subject: Where to buy DS?

I see that Amazon and CDNow have DS listed.  Does any know
if they will ship before 10/10/98 so the CDs will be
received on the release date?



From: "Christopher R. Silvia" 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:26:41 +0000
Subject: Different Stages dvd

I read that there will be video release of Different Stages in 
December.  I hope this is true.  I was wondering if anyone heard if 
it will be released on dvd.  It would be a shame for it to be 
released on vhs only.  Please, someone e-mail me with any details.  

chris silvia


From: (Chuck Flowers)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:32:30 -0500
Subject: why???

Could this be true that foreign Different Stages pressings are going to
have an additional song?  If it is true, that is so lame.  Wake up Rush.

c money


From: Tony Autrey 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:58:35 -0500
Subject: "YYZ"

I work for a major electronics firm in Dallas Tx. and I supervise the set-up
and tear-down of our booth that we use at trade shows all across the
country. Recently I was setting up our stuff at a trade show for stock
traders in New York City when I confirmed something that I had been told
years ago. After all of the companies set up, they stack their empty crates
in the aisles to be removed until the show is finished. There was one
company that had "YYZ" stickers all over their crates and sure enough - they
were a Canadian company. Of course I could not make this trip complete
without snagging one (they get torn off anyway). I had always heard that
"YYZ" had something to do with Canadian shipments and now I know that it's
true. If someone can tell me EXACTLY what it stands for, let me know or post
it on TNMS for other fans that don't know.

"Sadder still to watch it die than never to have known it. For you the blind
who once could see, the bell tolls for thee"
(gives me about you Emily?)

Tony Autrey
Specialized Technology Group
STB Systems Inc.


From: "Costello, Bryan" 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:06:07 -0400
Subject: more November 10th action, baby!!

Hey Y'all,

First off, howdy to newcomer Annette Parks, John Spiers & Peter
Coblentz...welcome aboard. I met them all at a charity carwash 2 weekends
ago here in Atlanta, all the proceeds went to end Class Struggle. John won
the $50 Tommy Hilfiger gift certificate they raffled off!!!

Anyway, besides the live Rush offering that comes out on Nov. 10th, the 4 CD
Bruce Springsteen box set of ALL unreleased material (something Rush would
never do) comes out, as does the new Metallica double CD (1 disc of out of
print/import rarities and 1 disc of brand new music...Metallica interpreting
songs by those that inspired them.....something else Rush would never do).

So... unless I sell a couple of the Glock 9mm Police Issues (still in the
box), I may have to make a decision someone won't like. Why do all my faves
have to put something out on the SAME day? All I have to say is, "Thank You,
God, for Bootlegs!!!"

Yours in allegiance,

Mr. Nothingface


Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:29:27 EDT
Subject: Rush Sighting

     I was driving home from work this morning 10/12 at 7am and saw a black
picup truck with license plate "21124AN." I thought it was really cool! 
Blessings to all,


From: "M. Jacobs" 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:39:56 -0500
Subject: Wierdos?

Dude, speak for yourself.  Don't we take enough heat from non-fans?  Do =
we have to start calling ourselves names now? =20

   [ Hey I'm a freak and I admit it gladly!                      : rush-mgr ]


From: "Michael Tilson" 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:47:39 -0700
Subject: Different track order from CDnow, Atlantic web site

The tracklisting on CDnow follows a slightly different order that what
we've seen until now.  It is as follows:

Disc 1
01. Dreamline 
02. Limelight 
03. Driven 
04. Bravado 
05. Animate 
06. Show Don't Tell 
07. Trees, The 
08. Nobody's Hero 
09. Closer To The Heart 
10. Overture {a} 
11. Temples Of Syrinx {a} 
12. Discovery {a} 
13. Presentation {a} 
14. Soliloquy {a} 
15. Grand Finale {a} 

Disc 2
01. Test For Echo 
02. Analog Kid 
03. Freewill 
04. Roll The Bones 
05. Stick It Out 
06. Resist 
07. Leave That Thing Alone 
08. Rhythm Method, The 
09. Natural Science 
10. Spirit Of Radio, The 
11. Tom Sawyer 
12. YYZ 

The only problem I see is the "The Oracle" is not listed on disc 1. 
However, "The Oracle" IS listed in the tracklisting on Atlantic's web site.
 "Bravado," "Nobody's Hero," and "Closer to the Heart" all have been moved

The differences on disc 2 is that "The Analog Kid" is now listed as track 2
instead of track 4, and that LTTA, The Rhythm Method, and NS are in the
order that they were played in on the TFE tour.  The Atlantic web site also
lists those three songs in the same order that CDnow does (although they
forgot to list "The Analog Kid" and "Show Don't Tell" from disc 1).  I
personally am much happier with this order.  Although it's the same songs,
the order they played LTTA, The Rhythm Method, and NS was perfect on the

"Anything can happen"


From: "N. JENSEN" 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:02:30 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: DS Listening Party

******RUSH - DIFFERENT STAGES Listening Party*****

I've posted this information before, but this is an update and a reminder.
The Hastings music store in Las Cruces, New Mexico will be hosting a
listening party for the new live Rush release.  On the night of November
9th (if the release date holds) the store will remain open until midnight.
Those in attendance can listen to the new release and then purchase it as
they leave.  The party will have the following features:

1.  VIDEO PRENSENTATION.  This will begin at 9:00pm.  From 9:00 to 11:00
we will show the '94/'96 MuchMusic Rush specials as well as the MuchMusic
interview of Neil Peart about the "Burning for Buddy" tribute.  At 11:00
we will show the Auburn Hills, MI '94 concert video.

2.  FREE PIZZA.  There will be free Domino's pizza for all in attendance.
The pizzas will arrive at 11:00pm.

3.  RAFFLE.  Copies of "Different Stages" will be raffled off.  The more
tickets sold, the more cds given away.  Tickets will be .25 each.
Promotional posters and flats are a possibility for raffle prizes as well.

4.  $1.00 OFF.  All Rush related merchandise (DS, remasters, Tribute cd,
Victor, etc.) will be $1.00 off its normal price.  A good night to replace
your collection with remasters ;-)

The Hastings store is located at 2350 E. Lohman in Las Cruces.  Contact me
if you need directions.  I am the associate in charge of the party.  Feel
free to contact me for any further information.  If you plan to attend,
please drop me an email.  Thanks!


RUSH MGR:  If you are in attendance, I guarantee you a free copy of DS.  I
will need 3 forms of ID though.  Can't have everone in attendance claiming
to be the infamous RM :-)


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