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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2122


                  Thursday, 22 Oct 1998

Today's Topics:
                      Administrivia
                      All Things New
                    Rush Video's want.
                 Rush Sighting (sort of)
                        my top 10
                Heard Live SoR in Florida
                        Rush MP3s
                Different Stages on KLOS
               Wait for the Album, Please.
                       DS and EST ?
              Radio Fun for All in Mpls/SP!
                          Shirts
                    Less Than Perfect
                         Shirts!!
                        Mars 2112
           Lotsa Rush on new St. Louis station
                   Re:the omega concern
                Commenting on the WebPage
                 Rush at the World Series
                          Shirts
              DS Version of Spirit of Radio
                      Rush sighting
              Rush Sighting in World Series
     $16.49 DS!!!  Found a special with one day left!
                        Bad jokes
                Re: Different Stages Cover
                     2112/TFE and DS
                 Rush at Universal Music
                      a few answers
                     reznor and belew
                        Greg Howe
                        pye dubois
           Rush DEFINATELY has Not BROKEN UP!!
                         ACORN???
                    Re: NEIL IS DEAD 
                            DS
             Our Demise in 2000?  Not likely
                       last post..
               Differerent Stages on Cass.
                          Top 10
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From: rush-mgr@tnms.com (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Thu Oct 22 10:55:58 PDT 1998
Subject: Administrivia

There's a new message board on the NMS home page. I have moved ALL of the
Rush Trader to this new board, so the messages will now be real time rather
than the days it took before. You can also now link IMAGES in of stuff you 
have for sale (please try to keep the images small).

I also started up a discussion about the NMS shirts there, I will still read
private email about it but with the new album coming in a few weeks I didn't
want to tie up the digest with shirt talk. So if you're interested in an NMS
shirt, check out the board! You do need to register on the board before you
can post (although anyone can read the posts), so if you want a particular
nickname get it now before someone else does!

If you like the message board please let me know, I'm running it kind of as
an experiment, and an alternative to both the NMS and a.m.r. If we don't get
a lot of general discussions, I'll just leave the trader & NMS specific
discussions up.

 - rush-mgr

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From: "Chad Werner" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998  7:19 -0600
Subject: All Things New

     Here are some observations, questions & comments from a neutral 
     reporter. They all pertain, in some way to DS:
     
     1. Anyone in Mpls./SP area hear any new live Rush on 100.3 or 93.7? 
     They are the stations most likely to play Rush. 92.5 is a long, long 
     shot. 
     
     2. All this talk about the live SOR kicking ass has caused me to turn 
     on 93.7. It is morning. That means morning radio wackiness. Omigawd! 
     This sucks. I hope this pays off with a Rush play. Speaking of SOR, 
     the best live version I've heard is the one from the Grace Under 
     Pressure video. I bought an audio "bootleg" of a Pittsburgh Rush 
     concert years ago & heard this ripping version of SOR. I thought I 
     struck paydirt. Then I rented Grace Under Pressure video & discovered 
     that my "bootleg" is simply an audio recording of the video. Oh well, 
     SOR just rips on it anyway.
     
     3. I second the thought posed by a fellow NMSer on the need for a Hugh 
     Syme book of Rush art. I've always found the album covers interesting. 
     Hugh, I'LL buy the book. WE'LL ALL buy the book.
     
     4. I'm not saying that we ought to disregard the Rush Mgr's wishes & 
     discuss at excruciating length the possible symbolism of the tinker 
     toy DS cover. However, some of us have been trained to look for 
     symbolism in everything. English majors, for example, are this way. I 
     ought to know. I was one in college, and now I am always looking for 
     symbolism in art. There's nothing wrong with people that think this 
     way. There is no reason to immediately bristle at the mention of words 
     like "motif" & "symbol". There is a fine line that must be minded, 
     though. When people drill their thoughts into others & take a 
     high-minded approach & OVERanalyze (just to show how smart they are?), 
     it alienates the others who have other interests & fortes; those who 
     just want to enjoy the art. I feel, though, that if no one cares 
     enough about art to discuss it, we run the risk of art going away. 
     Let's be careful & not turn our artistic discussions into crusades, 
     though. That said, I found the comments about the spacing of the 
     tinker discs on DS to be pretty astute & interesting. That's all I 
     really wanted to say on the subject, but I took a whole paragraph of 
     cloying drivel to get to this point. Sorry.
     
     Hmmm, I hope this isn't too long [ed - it is]. I hope no one takes 
     offense at point 4. None was intended. Let's be careful out there 
     people!
     
     Chad

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From: SN2112@aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:55:55 EDT
Subject: Rush Video's want.

If anyone has or can copy some new Rush music videos.. , let me know. 
I have not seen music videos from Rush since HYF. 
MTV usuall shows them for a very short time, and I never see them. 
I would like any on VHS tape after HYF. 
Need from =,, CP, Presto, T4E
E-mail me with list and we can work something out for cost of tape and
shipping.
 Thanks:  SN2112@aol.com

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From: "Anderson, Chris " 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:05:47 -0400
Subject: Rush Sighting (sort of)

I was just sitting here on break reading
The NMS and my manager was telling
another associate that a certain manufacturing
line is now in the "Limelight."  Couldn't help
but think about Rush, the new live album, and mentioning
this on The NMS.

Well....anyway.....
 
Chris

ps.  Are there any NMSer's -Rush fans- in the Harrisburg area??????

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From: Pat Lynch 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:55:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: my top 10

Well all, I haven't posted here in a long time.... I've actually been on
and off TMNS since like 1995....

Top 10 Bands, with Albums
1. Rush (Everything)
2. Genesis (any Gabriel stuff)
3. Capercallie (a killer Scottish band that plays traditonal Gaelic songs,
but with a pop/funk feel)
4) Yes
5) Altan (another Celtic type band, this time Irish, sings in Gaeilge
(Irish gaelic))
6) Pink Floyd (Momentary Lapse, Division Bell)
7) Garth Brooks (Ropin' the WInd - some people wonder how this gets in
here, I like country
music somewhat)
8) My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult (this is somewhat of an anomaly a
well, sometimes I want industrial techno, what can I say...)
9) Dream Theater (almost everything)
10) Ben Fold's Five, (All three albums, if you haven't heard them yet,
take
a listen, HIGHLY recommended)

Honorable Mention : King Crimson, Asia, ELP, Marillion, 10,000 Maniacs,
Relativity (another Scottish band), Crowded House...

 Pat 
___________________________________________________________________________
Pat Lynch						lynch@rush.net
Systems Administrator					Rush Networking
___________________________________________________________________________

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From: "Frank Sewald" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:08:29 -0500
Subject: Heard Live SoR in Florida

Hi all,

I was in Florida this past weekend (for the Pepsi 400) and caught the Spirit
of Radio cut from the live album. It starts a little strange, since the
actual guitar lick seems out of sync with the beat. When I heard it, I
thought that it must be something new that they were doing on the song,
since that is the way that I remember it being played at the last show I
went to in Chicago.

Of course it all made sense, when Geddy cries out "let's hear it Chicago"
(or something to that effect) during the song. So that cut is definitely
from the first Chicago show on the Test for Echo tour, October 28th 1996 I
believe.

 Frank

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From: Tony Autrey 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:59:36 -0500
Subject: Rush MP3s

To my Rush "family" - TNMS,
I have read several times in TNMS that many of you are looking for Rush MP3
files. I found a site called "The Dutch Rush Page" that has several Rush MP3
files including a rarity from 1974 that I had never heard before called "You
Can't Fight It". It's at.... http://members.tripod.com/~bushmills/  This is
a really nice looking page with EXCELLENT content. ....a MUST see in my
book! Enjoy!

"...with the heart and mind united in a single perfect sphere"

Tony
tautrey@stb.com

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From: Anthony Miller 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:21:22 -0700
Subject: Different Stages on KLOS

Hello Rushians, I am forwarding this e-mail to all of you from KLOS 95.5
in LA.

Anthony J. Miller
Assistant Vice President
Remedy Logistics Group
101 Enterprise
Aliso Viejo, CA 92656
"show me don't tell me"

 ----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 5:22 PM
To: Anthony Miller

Hi Anthony...

Yes, we will be playing some Rush for you...in fact, we'll be playing a 
2 hour special on Sunday, November 8th from 10pm-12am.  It will be a 
world premier of the new album "Different Stages".  So, tune in, I think
you'll enjoy it!

Thanks for writing and thank you even more for choosing 95.5 KLOS!

Dina 
KLOS Programming

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From: bj105cd@juno.com (x z)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:32:12 EDT
Subject: Wait for the Album, Please.

What is all this garbage about sampling pre-releases of Different Stages
(or any other album, for that matter) and putting it on the Internet? 
This is stupidity to me.  It cheapens the whole thing.  Are you really
going to enjoy some snippet of an album on the internet,  when RUSH spent
hundreds of hours putting it together for CD?  

   [ Yes.                                                         : rush-mgr ]

I have a suggestion.  Wait for the album to be released.  When you get
it, if you can contain your excitement, pleasure yourself by tearing off
the shrink wrap, and look at the literature inside.  Put that beautiful
disc in your player and take a few uninterrupted hours to hear what these
men wish to present to you.  

When I was growing up, I remember getting HEMISPHERES for Christmas.  I
was so excited.  My other gifts paled in comparison.  I took the vinyl
(ha, ha) to my room and listened for hours.  Soon, I had the bass parts
down.  It really was an experience to treasure.  I'd like to commemorate
the 20th year anniversary of the release of HEMISPHERES. Two decades ago,
the album went from the studio to me.  There was no radio premier or
computer sample to contaminate and commercialize that experience.

Kids, don't open your gift before it is time.  I know the radio premier
will be useful, but only because RUSH will be interviewed at that time. 
It's too bad so many people will first hear the album on the radio.  I
choose not to.  I want that awesome cut to enter my ears from the
pureness of CD.  

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From: "Gillan Cash" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:16:29 +0100
Subject: DS and EST ?

Hi All ..

please reply privately, as this is OT .. but I live in England.

and it says on a site that the premier for DS is at 10pm EST ... whereabouts
in the world is that ? what time will that be in the UK !????

Many thanks

Gillan Cash, (raf49@dial.pipex.com)

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From: "Chad Werner" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:29 -0600
Subject: Radio Fun for All in Mpls/SP!

     I have tried requesting the DS live tracks with 93.7 & 100.3 here in 
     the Twin Cities. Both said they weren't sure if they had any singles 
     or early tracks yet, but would "look into it". Both stations played 
     the MP version of TS instead. I guess I'm not surprised. However, one 
     guy at 100.3 did tell me that they would be airing the radio premier 
     of DS on Nov. 4 at "around 9PM". He said that they would be talking 
     more about it on the air in the weeks to come. So, that's something, 
     huh? I wouldn't go so far as to say that is the definitive word on the 
     subject, but it's a good bet anyway. Maybe I'll try 92.5 KQRS now.... 
     Damn. It's busy.

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From: "Kegler, Nick" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:43:45 -0700
Subject: Shirts

I love the Idea. (We are the Priests...)  Make sure we can get XXL sizes 
tho.  What about something on the sleeve?  Like a small logo (al la 
LogoAthletic) or something.  I really like the font and colour that is use 
on the web site for the "We are.." logo.  Use that!  Hurry and decide I 
want several!  - your friend in Rush, Nick (Bakersfield)

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From: "Thompson, Christopher S" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:14:03 -0500
Subject: Less Than Perfect

 ----> I want to offer a different opinion of the "Different Stages" version
of
 ----> TSOR.  I AM DISAPPOINTED !!  The drums sound way too fast, Alex isn't
 ----> hitting all the notes on the appregio chorus and it just lacks the
 ----> overall power of the original.
>>
>>good news!  sounds like we might get an unpolished live album not
>>overdubbed to death!
>>
>>Bring on the goofs, time slips and missed notes!  Thats what makes live
>>performances fun! Leaving the goofs in this time is great! I for one am
>>tired of Perfect Rush.

I totally agree.  When I heard the song on the radio, I tuned in just in
time for the solo.  It had some irregularities in it, which I loved, because
as a guitarist, it makes me feel a little better.  Heh.  But I also noticed
that it had a raw energy and robust sound quality that really appealed to
me.  I only heard half the song, but I'm stoked!  It's turned my ho-hum
attitude toward the live album into one of eager anticipation.

Take care,
Chris

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From: mattvoss@webtv.net (matt voss)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:32:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Shirts!!

How about white shirts??  Since Rush is satanic already enough, why not
some brightness!!  Ha,  Ha,  -MV

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From: raiders@postoffice.ptd.net
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:22:50 -0700
Subject: Mars 2112

I don't know if anyone mentioned this or not, but I was in New York City
about 2 weeks ago and ran into a restaraunt called Mars 2112.  I didn't get
to eat there because as luck would have it I was on my way home.  It looked
kinda expensive and very nice and RUSH influenced.  
~just thought i'd mention this (anyone ever there) to anyone who's interested...

p.s.- Any RUSH fans in the northeastern Pa having a DS listening party or
want to have one?

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From: "Kevin M. Avery" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:19:07 -0500
Subject: Lotsa Rush on new St. Louis station

For those of you close to St. Louis check out 97.1 the Rock. A friend
just told me about it so I turned it on and I heard 3 Rush songs
yesterday. They are new and have no commercials and no DJs yet. They
have an announcer in between songs who keeps saying "7000 songs in a
row" Too bad they will eventually have DJs and commercials. I just hope
they keep up the Rush!
Take Care,
Kevin M. Avery
Dad to Geddy and Bowie :-)

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From: George Of The Tested Echoes 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:49:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re:the omega concern

>can anyone answer what the omega concern is? i noticed that some of the
>
>rush albums in the last decade give thanx to them.
>
>on presto and roll the bones it is the omega concern
>on counterparts it is just the greek letter
>t4e it is the greek letter
>hold your fire it is the omega concern again.
========================================================================
It's a secret message in which they pledge their undying allegiance to
SATAN!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding.

It's actually a secret code explaining how many times Alex got drunk
during the recording of the album. If they say the whole word, he got
plastered more than 5 times. If they use the symbol, then he hasn't
been hittin' the bottle much lately.

Or not...

George

===
"Hatred is giving what is deserved.  
Love is giving what is best for the person."
                              -Dave Guthrie
Visit my home page at http://www.angelfire.com/in/rushboy
In work there is no shame; shame is in the idleness.  - Hesiod 

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From: Tracy Smith 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:04:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Commenting on the WebPage

Real quick:

I checked out the webpage today. Hadn't in months...lazy, too busy, 
same old excuse...

*****  WOW *****!!!!

It looks great and has sooooo much on it.

So: big round of applause for all involved in making it the way it is. If 
the boys ever checked it out they'd be proud!!! (oh, in my humble 
opinion. I do not know any of the Rush members personally, darn!! :-)

That is it!

Thanks to all those sympathetic radio fans who have written me regarding 
the lack of play LA radio has given the new CD. But I just read (from the 
rush manager) that KLOS plans to play the CD on November 8th. That is 
cool.

See ya!

Tracy
tsmith@wahoo.sjsu.edu

" Treat people as if they were what they ought to be and you help 
them to become what they are capable of being." ~ Johann W. von Goethe ~

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From: John Lupoli 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:08:07 -0400
Subject: Rush at the World Series

Hi fellow Rushians,
	The time is 8:03 p.m., 10/21/98, game 4 of the world series. I am
typing this right after I heard it. Pregame of game 4 has just started.
As it began I heard a familiar tune. It was La Villa Strangiato. My dad
and I are freaking out. Rush at the World Series. I hope the Yankees
win.

Matt Lupoli
Age: 14
North Haven, Ct
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/2740/

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From: semsc@ares1.com (Michael Frenn)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:17:14 -0700
Subject: Shirts

Administrator:

The shirt idea in the administrivia of todays postings sounds great!

Michael Frenn

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From: "Dennis Pupello II" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:21:31 -0400
Subject: DS Version of Spirit of Radio

>From: John Elliott 
>Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:24:10 -0500
>Subject: TSOR - Live

>Ok Folks,

>I want to offer a different opinion of the "Different Stages" version of
>TSOR.  I AM DISAPPOINTED !!  The drums sound way too fast, Alex isn't
>hitting all the notes on the ** appregio ** chorus 

It's not appregio, it's ** arpeggio **.  I AM DISAPPOINTED !!  ;)

In this instance, fast drums = high energy = cool.

Dennis Pupello II
Internet mail: dpupello@gate.net
WWW personal: http:/www.gate.net/~dpupello/
Work e-mail: webmaster@ci.brooksville.fl.us
WWW govt: http://www.ci.brooksville.fl.us/
ICQ# 308016  WWW: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/308016
IRC: #quake, #deathmatch, #florida: YyzSinned
352-544-5435 x126 - Work

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From: "Elmer Goad" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:21:35 -0400
Subject: Rush sighting

Hi all,

The pregame show for game # 4 of the World Series:  Fox plays La Villa
Strangiato!

Elmer

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From: "John Henderson" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:26:13 PDT
Subject: Rush Sighting in World Series

   Hello, this is my first post, and I haven't checked my last couple 
issues, so if this has already been mentioned, sorry.  I was watching 
the World Series Game 4? (I haven't been following it too 
closely)tonight (the 21st) on Fox, and during the pre-game, when they 
introduce the teams, and give a quick re-cap, they used La Villa 
Strangiiato as the song.  They played it from where it sounds like a 
swing drum solo, to just before Geddy sings the only lyrics in the song.  
I thought it was interesting, and thought someone might like to know. ;)

       Sincerely,
       John Henderson
       Hendu33@Hotmail.com

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From: Will Collier 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:44:37 +0100
Subject: $16.49 DS!!!  Found a special with one day left!

Hey, I just stumbled into a really cheap deal on Different Stages... If
you access cdnow.com *through webcrawler.com* (no, I don't work for
either of them), you get an automatic $10 off on an order.  That brings
the *shipped* pre-release price on the DS CD to $16.49.  I don't think
anybody's going to beat that one (I got my order in tonight).

The $10 off link is on the main Webcrawler page, on the right side,
under "A Word From Our Sponsors".  I don't think you can get this deal
by going directly to cdnow.com; it's a promotion through Webcrawler.  

The bad news is--the deal is only good through October 22, which is
tomorrow (Thursday) as I write this... rush-mgr, not to impose on your
duties or anything, but this just might be worth a quick TNMS special
edition... 

Good luck,
 -Will Collier
willcollier@digitalexp.com

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From: "rodney beeson" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:07:11 -0400
Subject: Bad jokes

I wanted to echo Martin's thoughts about some of the bad jokes, and yes, =
we got the Beatles reference.  It was way too obvious to miss.
I am wondering if any air dates for DS will be posted with =
date/time/website (if any)?  Tampa radio sucks too, especially when it =
comes to playing live Rush.

Thanks!
Mary Jo

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From: lerxst1@juno.com (Brian M Donlin)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:18:54 EDT
Subject: Re: Different Stages Cover

Bear with me, this could get confusing. 

While everyone's talking about what the new cover could stand for, I
figured I'd throw in an idea. Seeing that they're going back to their
rougher, edgier sound of years past, onecould speculate that the tinker
toys represent their youthfulness in taking their music back to that
edgier yet more modern sound.

On another note, I usually have no problem getting my Rush WorkForce
Blocks played on 102.7 WNEW (NY area, Brian at Blue Ribbon Awards),
though I still haven't heard any DS, yet. Visit their website at :
www.wnew.com and request DS!!! I'm going there now.

Brian
Lerxst1@juno.com

 When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.

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From: "Antony Gelberg" 
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:23:13 +0100
Subject: 2112/TFE and DS

Hi all,

Two things:

1)  I am a comparatively recent Rush fan, and I have never seen them live (I
live in the UK).  I just picked a bootleg TFE video from the first show of
the tour.  It is not fantastic, but gets me by. :-(
What really struck me was the downtuned 2112.  What a great way to breathe
new life into the old classic.  It was so majestic and (dare I say it)
heavy!

2) So bring on DS.  When I asked in Our Price today about DS, they told me
it would be around 45 for the 3-cd "box set".  Hopefully this is just a
mistake (by the worst record chain I know)!  Can anyone in the UK confirm
whether it is a "box set" and whether it will be 45?  Seems extortionate to
me.
 --
Antony Gelberg

antony@antgel.demon.co.uk
gelberga@dcs.kcl.ac.uk
antgel@hotmail.com

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From: "van Damage" 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:28:14 PDT
Subject: Rush at Universal Music

Just visited the "Canadian Web Site of Universal Music" at 
http://www.universalcanada.com/ and found Rush and Victor listed 
therein.  The Rush section had Neil's T4E tourbook write-up along with 
an update on DS.  The Victor page had an interview with Lerxst I hadn't 
noticed before.  There are a few pictures as well video and sound 
samples too.  It was refreshing to see Rush recognized alongside their 
younger musical counterparts like The Hip, Super Friendz, Raggadeath, 
Headstones, Gandharvas, Age of Electric, etc.  Cool site anyway, check 
it out.

Damage
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/6756/rush.htm

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:01:18 -0700
Subject: a few answers

Dennis Benjamin asked a few questions:

> Isn't it highly likely that we are all just a great big accident in the
>universe, and that our time may be up in the next century? 

that's TWO questions, totally unrelated to the other.  Mathematically,
the answer to both is a big fat NO, but an unproveable one.

>Isn't it highly likely that we (TNMS'ers) happen to live in a time when 
>the greatest set of musicians, are alive and releasing great music? 

never doubted it for a second; it's axiomatic.

>Isn't it likely that the cover of the next RUSH album is exactly that: A 
>cover of an album, nothing more?

ah!  but it' so much fun to read things into them.  look how many people
tried to read meaning into APTB rather than accept that the boyz smoked
dope when they were young?

>Us, as humans, are always trying to read into things. What if the author
>of the book, album, or artwork says that the said item means nothing? 

then it would be either an invitation to guess, or a really boring piece
of work.

>I think we all need to lay off interpreting the cover of DS. Lets just 
>enjoy the music.

I think we should do both
 - 
mike
http://cloak-dagger.com  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space
age.

"Quality is a bit like oats.  If you want good, clean, fresh oats, you
must pay a fair price.  If however, you can be satisfied with oats that
have already been through the horse...that comes a little cheaper."

John P. Husvar

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:58:40 -0700
Subject: reznor and belew

Alex Smith said:
>Trent Reznor doesn't play the guitar or anything else except keys as far 
>as I know.... Adrian Belew is the one playing those crazy distorted 
>guitars in Nine Inch Nails (at least in _The Downward Spiral_). Sorry to 
>rock the boat

NOW who's smoking crack????  Studiowise, reznor plays EVERYTHING.  And
Belew has NEVER been involved with him.  And Reznor got an award from 
(IIRC) Guitar Player in 1989 as new guitarist of the year. 

Belew is FAR weirder than Reznor, and more melodic--the difference is
very clear.  Belew palyed with King Crimson for a while.  And I got a KC
bootleg with my last Rush bootlegs.  

 - 
mike
http://cloak-dagger.com  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space
age.  AND THE COSTUME CHAINMAIL PICTURES ARE UP!!!!!!  armor grade will
follow.

"Quality is a bit like oats.  If you want good, clean, fresh oats, you
must pay a fair price.  If however, you can be satisfied with oats that
have already been through the horse...that comes a little cheaper."

John P. Husvar

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:04:05 -0700
Subject: Greg Howe

Eric Haswell said:
>"The forthcoming Greg Howe CD features Vitalij Kuprij on keyboards and
>carries on in the neoclassical vein of Vitalij's debut solo effort which 
>of course was produced by and featured Howe. The record also features a
>version of Rush's La Villa Strangiato".
>I have never heard of either of these two fellows, anyone know what to
>expect from this?

Greg Howe is another baroque metal artist.  pretty good, but very
technique oriented.  I haven't heard enough of his stuff to give an
honest assessment.  I've heard of Vtalij, but that's all. 
 - 
mike
http://cloak-dagger.com  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space
age.

"Quality is a bit like oats.  If you want good, clean, fresh oats, you
must pay a fair price.  If however, you can be satisfied with oats that
have already been through the horse...that comes a little cheaper."

John P. Husvar

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:06:04 -0700
Subject: pye dubois

Robert J. Murphy said:
>but about the alleged chances of another album and Neil not writing 
>lyrics and all; here's a thought: Pye Dubois. I'd buy an album with him 
>behind the pen! Why not?

Because he sucks royally??

Just my .002  (sic)
 - 
mike
http://cloak-dagger.com  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space
age.

"Quality is a bit like oats.  If you want good, clean, fresh oats, you
must pay a fair price.  If however, you can be satisfied with oats that
have already been through the horse...that comes a little cheaper."

John P. Husvar

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From: James M 
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:13:22 -0400
Subject: Rush DEFINATELY has Not BROKEN UP!!

This article is from the Tornto Sun, and can be found at www.canoe.ca in
the "Showbiz" section. Just do a search on Rush if you can't fin it.
As it say's, Rush mgmt CONFIRMS Rush has not broken up, but there are no
"frim" plans for a new studio album or tour, YET! My guess though, is
that these things have been discussed by the band. My bet is on a year
2000 release, but not Jan.1! Anyways...enjoy:-), 'cause here it is:

Rush: No 'break-up' planned

                         By JANE STEVENSON
                              Toronto Sun

                 There's finally news from the Rush front as the
               Toronto power trio releases a new live double album,
               Different Stages, on Nov. 10. 
                
                The material on the two CDs was recorded during
               Rush's 1997 tour of North America, with emphasis
               on material from their albums Roll The Bones
               (1991), Counterparts (1993) and Test For Echo
               (1996), plus older favourites including Closer To The
               Heart, Tom Sawyer and The Spirit Of Radio. 
                
                A special limited edition of Different Stages will
               feature a third disc of Rush's long-lost performances
               recorded at London's Hammersmith Odeon during
               their A Farewell To Kings tour in 1978. 
                
                Meanwhile, Rush continues to give drummer Neil
               Peart the time he needs to grieve the loss of his wife
               to cancer this year following the death of their
               daughter in a car accident in 1997. 
                
                "There is no intention for the band to break up, but
               there are no firm plans for the next studio record or
               tour at this point," a spokesman for Rush's label said
               yesterday.  

Ahhh..as Geddy once said..HOPE IS ETERNAL!!...

Peace..

James

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From: "Robert J. Murphy" 
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:11:43 -0500
Subject: ACORN???

     ahem...

     Let me say that I *did* look at the FAQ before posting, so please don't
tar and feather me for asking. Here goes: WHAT is the "acorn" of
"Superconductor?" In the liner notes of "Presto" it says: "We also offer a
tip of the magical hat to... Mike Roberts for the acorn of
"Superconductor,"..."
     I've been on TNMS for about a year and a half now but still aint seen
this one mentioned (yeah, I know, who cares, right(?)... it's just a mild
curiosity - like asking what the omega concern is.)

     Curious,

     Robert (designing to deceive)
     surf-murph@msn.com

NUT: (.4) Mus. A ridge of wood at the top of the fingerboard or neck of
stringed instruments, over which the strings pass.

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From: Guy Walker 
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 05:13:17 -0500
Subject: Re: NEIL IS DEAD 

>From: "Fred Kessler" 
>Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:02:42 -0500
>Subject: NEIL IS DEAD!!!!
>
>I have a theory that neil is dead.  Actually, all three bandmembers may =
>be dead for that matter.  My theory is confirmed by the fact that none =
>of the tinkertoys on the cover of DS are wearing shoes!!  So there ya =
>go!!  RIP Boys!!

   That's the funniest thing I ever heard...!

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From: "Penna, John:" 
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:40:06 -0400
Subject: DS

good day, eh....

someone said:
> I want to offer a different opinion of the "Different Stages" version of
> TSOR.  I AM DISAPPOINTED !!  The drums sound way too fast, Alex isn't
> hitting all the notes on the appregio chorus and it just lacks the
> overall power of the original.

question:  isn't DS a "LIVE" album???

 -JP
the mad immortal man...

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From: Jose Ramos 
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:05:57 -0400
Subject: Our Demise in 2000?  Not likely

Hi Rush-heads

Dennis Benjamin wrote: 
"Isn't it highly likely that we are all just a great big accident in the
universe, and that our time may be up in the next century?"

Dennis, Are you kidding me?  Are you so arrogant to think that the next
century has anything to do with humanity's demise?  Just because people
started numbering years two thousand years ago, does that mean our time is
up?  It certainly isn't "highly likely" as you put it.

The earth has been orbiting the sun for over FIVE BILLION YEARS!!!!  Now
because of the number 2000 we are all going to die?!?  Get a grip and go
read your sixth grade science book, will ya?

Rush Content:
Can't wait to hear DS!!!
18 more days!!!

Max

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From: "Daniel Ware" 
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:25:30
Subject: last post..

Just had to say one final goodbye, gang...
Take care of yourselves, and be good to each other... Don't loose sight of
the big picture, and that Rush is the greatest band in exsistance... I'll
see you all soon, and can't freakin' wait for DS.. I'll be first in line at
the store..Thank God I'll have my mornings off...
Cheers from New Mexico..
Dan
The ship sank...
Get over it.

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From: SndNature@aol.com
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:32:54 EDT
Subject: Differerent Stages on Cass.

Hi Everyone,
   I talked with a guy from WEA (Warner bros) and DS will not be available on
cass.
Oh well, I think it is time for everyone to move into the Cd era. For one
reason, it is the best investment, I bought my first Cd (Power Windows) in
Jan.  1986 and it sounds perfect today. If that was a cassette, it would have
gone to the great tape shredder in the sky long ago. Also, I can get the
Japanese verson for anyone who is interested. I can get the domestic verson
shipped  it to arrive Tuesday, Nov 10th. if anyone will have trouble getting
it on street date. Feel free to contact me at:
                             Angelos Cd's & Tapes (303) 798-6378

           Hope things are going well for all of you. I can't wait for the
10th.
                                             Best Wishes,
                                                     Jim

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From: "B.J. Morgan" 
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:00:47 -0500
Subject: Top 10

I know, I know.  We all have our favorites.  Here's mine.

10. Beethoven - I know he's dead.  But he sure writes one heckofa symphony
9. Chick Corea & the Electric Acoustic Band - Fusion at it's extreme
8. Genesis - Phil can sing AND play drums... that's amazing in itself.
7. Nine Inch Nails - A one man industrial band. 
6. Primus - Rockabilly ain't bad.  At least they're inspired by "the boyz" 
5. Van Halen - Eddie's virtuosity amazes me.  Such musicality.
4. Dave Matthew's Band - Carter Beuford = funky mutha drummer
3. Dream Theatre - Mike Portnoy.  Wow.
2. Tool - Dark & somber.  Just the way I like it.
1. Rush: Rich and inspiring.  The other half of the spectrum.

Later all,
B.J. Morgan
Indiana State University Drumline
_ . _ _    _ . _ _    _ _ . .   _ . _ _    _ . _ _    _ _ . .
If a man does not keep pace with his companions,
perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. 
Let him step to the music he hears, 
however measured or far away. 

 - Henry David Thoreau, "Walden," 1854 

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