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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2125

                 Wednesday, 28 Oct 1998

Today's Topics:
                       Top 10 Bands
                  Finally heard a single
                   Question of decision
                     Bunches of Stuff
                    Polar opposites...
           Did Geddy EVER played with a pick ?
                       my Rush site
                    Once in a LIVEtime
                 111098 inside two weeks
                  All Rush Radio Station
                      TS in WATERBOY
                   Neil was in Japan??
         Atlantic Records/Rush/Need to read info 
                      DS for $11.87
                         The Fly
  Adding a Fish or 3 to the Bouillabaise that is the NMS
                    DS Premier in NYC
                   JACK KLUGMAN??!!??!!
                  Neil very look alike.
                        U2 Best Of
             Different Stages Limited Edition

From: (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Wed Oct 28 12:47:41 PST 1998
Subject: Administrivia

A few things to post about.
First, I went to the Atlantic web site today, and found they have a NEW banner
for DS! I put it on the NMS website already... but it mentions that Geddy &
Alex will be participating in a LIVE INTERNET fancast from New York City
on November 15th @ 7pm. SonicNet will be sponsoring the event, but as of yet
they have no information on their web page about it. I assume that they'll
have an interview with someone that's broadcast via realvideo about the
new album. They might even take questions that we submit, kind of like a 

I will post more information about it as I find more out, so PLEASE do not 
mail me right now asking where the site is, how do I see it, etc... we have
PLENTY of time to figure this out.

Next, be sure to check out the Artists Against Racism online auction going
on now! There's some neat Rush stuff on there, wish I could afford some of
it! :-)  They're at "" (They'd make great gifts for
that hard-to-please Rush fan)

I've also added some info on DS to the NMS page, all text & images were
taken from the Atlantic website (because I know not EVERYONE can use
Javascript). Some tidbits... 70% of DS came from the show in Chicago (I 
know someone asked about that in the last digest or two)... EVERY show on
the TFE tour was recorded (footware people can now begin drooling)... and
the Hammersmith show was originally recorded for a radio broadcast (that 
never happened).

And finally, I need a bit of help. My radio station isn't broadcasting the
premiere until November 8th, and I'll be out of town. So I need someone who
will be getting the show Nov 3 or 4, who can make either a DAT copy of it
or send me the original cassette (or DAT tape), to FEDEX it to me. I would 
like to put it up on the website before I leave on the 8th (won't be back 
until the 11th). Now I know FEDEX is expensive, it'll probably run $10-12 
to send it. I will send the tape back, and in return I will send one of the 
new NMS shirts as compensation (once we get them printed). Any takers?

 - rush-mgr


From: Dan Bruss 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:24:54 -0600

>From: Scott Aiken 
>Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:55:05 -0800 (PST)
>Subject: More Control
>Maybe it wasn't the Elder Race.  Maybe it was the guy that actually found 
>the guitar who defeated the priests and assumed control.  Well,  him and 
>his band...
>| Scott Aiken                                   |
>|              |

Yeah, and maybe that guy committed suicide since his lifeblood
"spilllllllled oooooovvverrrrrrrrrrrrrr!".


"The point of a journey
  is not to arrive."  - Neil Peart


From: "Greg Sanderson" 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:59:51 PST
Subject: Top 10 Bands

Dear All,

Well, couldn't resist adding my 2pence worth:

(these are in no particular order, and you don't know how hard it was 
not to add Rush in)

1. Pink Floyd
2. Catherine Wheel
3. Garbage
4. Metallica
5. Dream Theater
6. Counting Crows
7. Radiohead
8. Live
9. The Smashing Pumpkins

If we'd opened the ball up to include singer/songwriters, you woulda had 
a large helping of Sheryl Crow, Tori Amos, Alanis Morissette, Shawn 
Colvin and Patty Griffin, but since we haven't, you didn't. :)


Greg Sanderson

P.S. Ha-ha, England gets the vinyl! England gets the vinyl!


From: "Lewis, John" 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:02:53 -0500
Subject: Finally heard a single

Hello all!
	I was driving home from work and I heard The Spirit of Radio on
97.9 WXTB (Tampa). It sounded incredible. It definately made my day.
Can't wait for November 10th!



From: radpoco 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:05:51 -0600
Subject: Question of decision


Does anybody remember the winner of the RUSH DECISION '97 was?  My computer
crashed and I don't remember what it was.


Visit my WebPage at:

ICQ #  9436041		


Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:46:35 -0500
Subject: Bunches of Stuff

First off, I just bought Moving Pictures *cheer*, but when i was
listening to Vital Signs i noticed a slight imperfection in Geddy's
vocals at about 4:10. im positive he says "everybody's got to evelate
from the norm." anyone else catch this?

and tnms t-shirts? black, definitely black. but i was thinking maybe
tie-dye :) i wear all black every day but I'm not a goth. to goths
listen to Rush religiously like I do? i don't really think so. 

best Rush CD is either PermWavs or MP.  

whoever put up the add for the $5 off thing at for
CDnow i thank.   

and anyone know if there's a station in Western Massachusetts that'll
play some sort of premiere? 107.3 has it out of Boston but I can't get
it on my radio *bummer*

and if someone does tape that rockline show advertise it i'd like a copy

well im done



From: "-" 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:43:12 -0800
Subject: Polar opposites...

Rocky Landsverk wrote:

>could someone please e-mail a review of the new r.e.m. album? thanks. i
>don't want to buy it if it sounds like monster.

(chuckling to self)
I would ONLY buy it if it sounded like "Monster". That was the first R.E.M.
album that actually rocked. Isn't music great? It can be appreciated
in so many ways by so many people.


From: Laureti David 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:19:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Did Geddy EVER played with a pick ?

Greeting all, 

I was wondering if Geddy ever played with a pick ?  Consider this :

Back in 1991, a girlfriend of mine went to see a Rush concert in Ottawa.
She didn't knew a lot about the band but his brother offered her a ticket
in second or third row.  She knew I was a fan.  At this time, I was not a
big fan (owned only two albums : Presto and Roll the Bones).  Anyway, she
asked me : Could you borrow me the latest Rush album so at least, I will
recognize a couple of tunes ?  I said no problemo.

The day after the show, we were in this French class when I asked her :
What about the show ?  She said : Well it was great and oh..I have a
little "souvenir" for you.  Then she gave me this blue Fender "heavy"
pick ans said : It's Geddy Lee's pick.  My brother pick up one of Alex's
pick but here's for you the bassist's pick.  I was completely blown up.

Since that, I have this blue Fender pick framed on my wall with all my
ticket stubs.  When someone comes to my apartment, I can say : Here's my
own Geddy Lee's pick.  Actually, I pretend it's from Geddy.  

I know this subject has been disscuted but...Can I still believe it's a
Geddy Lee pick ?  If somebody in this forum prove me wrong, I would just
say Here's my Alex Lifeson's pick.  But until that...I'll consider the
first option.

David Laureti
Universite de Montreal (M.Sc. Science Politique)
courriel :
"Space is still the place"


From: Kevin Barnes 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:43:06 -0500
Subject: my Rush site

Hey fellow Rush fans want to see a good Rush site?  Then I encourage you to
check out my Rush site at:

Later on,


From: Alex Smith 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:33:14 -0700
Subject: Once in a LIVEtime

> BTW, tomorrow (October 27) is the release date of Dream Theater's "Once In
> A LIVEtime" double live disc and "5 Years In A LIVEtime" video!!!  Anyone
> planning on buying these?  Man, all these great bands releasing live
> material within weeks of each other.  Gawd...I just don't know what to do
> with myself! :-D

I bought OiaL today and I'm giving it a spin right now. I've only gotten to
track 5 ("Voices"), but so far it kicks ass. This band is one of the few
that could bring the Rush rock gospel to a new generation. Wow, the opening
of "Voices" reminds me of "Xanadu" a lot.... Killer!

I also bought REM's brand new album "Up". It's very cool and sounds nothing
like the typical "REM sound". Next week new U2 collection comes out, then
Different Stages on the 10th, then the Metallica cover album... supposedly.
The remaster of Marillion's "Misplaced Childhood" has come out too--I have
to check that out.

Alex Smith

"Seeing is believing, hearing is receiving—
Deaf and blind world, I don't believe in,
Blinded by light, flattened by sound,
Over and out—underground.
Down here, talk to us, we'll hear,
The future will heal, walk with us from here."
—Pop Will Eat Itself


From: "Matt Thurman" 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:07:01 PST
Subject: Pleasentville/2112

       With the release of "Different Stages" the movie "Pleasentville" 
was also released.  If anyone has seen it, does it not slightly resemble 
the story of 2112 (by a stretch? nonetheless)?  Think about it, The 
movie is about someone who has discovered something "wondrus" and brings 
it to the town "the preists". they reject it, though some people decide 
to follow it (the elders).  And so everything turns to crap and the 
elder race end's up beating the preists and taking over.  Same basic 
idea, but shoot me in the head with that quad shotgun if you want 
rush-mgr, i still think there is a similarity.
            and now for something completely different
       The album cover for different stages could mean concert stages, 
but also it could mean developemental stages.  Think about it, this live 
album has music from every major era of rush.  From the heavy 
distorion/overdriven guitar sound on their first album, through the 
heavy syth use in the 80's and on to the sophisticated sounds heard on 
RTB and CP, then to the last "Stage" TFE.  I think that it actualy is a 
representation of these stages, them saying, here's where we were, are, 
and are-going-to.  The tinker toys on the other hand, are a childs toy.  
Thus they represent childhood, and regardless of form, or even if the 
band had them or not, they all have memories of our early lives 
associated with them, unless you didn't have them as a child, but then 
again society still associates them with chilhood, telling someone to 
"go play with your tinker toys" is a refrence to them being a child.  
Now, this childhood refrence merely overstates the point of early stages 
of development in their music. "these are the toys we had", This is the 
music that has lead us to where we are 
today................................. ok I'm done over-analysing...  
for now.


From: Scott McDow 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:17:18 -0500
Subject: 111098 inside two weeks


I'd like to nominate Will Collier 
for the esteemed and revered Syrinx Award. Thanks to Will
for getting out the info on the webcrawler/cdnow $10.00 off
coupon. Because of this, many, myself included, will have Fed
Ex at their door on November 10th with DS for an incredible
price of $16.67. On my order I even put Woo-Hoo in the
special message section (where you might normally put happy
birthday or merry easter). Today I requested the day (11/10/98)
off of work. Now I'm gettin' pumped.

Thanks again Will



From: Aset 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:38:56 -0800
Subject: All Rush Radio Station

I would like to thank everyone (especially Seth and Joe who e-mailed me
directly - I read that long before I get to the NMS:) who told me about the
FM transmitter that fits into your headphone jack.  It worked wonders and
now I can play all the Rush I want through my radio, through a fabulous
soundsystem.  Much better than in my old car!!  It's great and I really
appreciate the info.

One thing I found, being blocked from riding in the car singing along with
my favorite songs, is how much Rush's music affects my life, in a postive
way.  Everything that could go wrong, was going wrong and I was falling
into a deep depression.  Then Friday I got my ability to listen to Rush in
the car again, and POW!  Nothing seemed so terrible anymore.  Nothing had
changed, just my attitude.  It seems that it's important to my state of
mind to be able to sing the songs.  No other band has that affect on me or
my psyche.

Anyway, now I have a radio station that plays ALl Rush All The Time!  It's
just a shame that no one else can recieve it.

Thanks Again,
Crystal Calligraphy		..."wind in my hair		shifting and drifting..."		-Peart


From: "Christopher Pizzo" 
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:29:51 -0800
Subject: TS in WATERBOY

I was at the movies and saw the trailer for the Waterbury the movie and =
they were playing TS as part of the theme song


From: "Ryosuke Yasuhara" 
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:20:14 +0900
Subject: Neil was in Japan??

>However, about a month ago, Peart suffered a motorcycle accident in Japan 
>when he wiped out a BMW High Performance bike on a race track. He suffered 
>minor injuries only.

Wow!! Was he in Japan?? On a racing??
I have not heard anything about his presence,
even though being myself here in Japan.
I wonder what race was he in......

 Ryo (a cyclist in Japan)


From: Tim Henderson 
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 01:20:33 -0800
Subject: Atlantic Records/Rush/Need to read info 

Surfing the Atlantic Records Web Page, I found a few things that I don't
think have been mentioned before.

Go to Instavids-You can view or download a video of Driven. My Mac is
too slow to do
this, So I didn't get a chance to view it.

You can order Different Stages from them and they say it will be in your
mailbox on November 10th. $24.99 I believe, no mention of shipping

Tried to find soundclip of TSOR, but all it did was take me to the promo
page of DS, with no links.

And Finally:

November 15th! 7pm est  Atlantic is hosting a Fancast. On camera, Live
Chat & Album Release event from NYC. Alex and Getty Live on camera.
Pretty cool.


From: "Grauw, de H.(BNS SU NO)" 
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:09:00 +0100
Subject: Ryche

Hi all,

Chaz wrote about a meeting with Queensryche.. I have to second that..

I met them 10 years ago when they opened for BON Jovi in Arnhem, my
hometown. I showed Geoff Tate the backstage entrance and subsequently was
invited in. After the show (great, although I had no idea who they were at
the time) i went backstage again and chattted with Michael Wilton, Eddie
jackson and Scott Rockenfield. Chris DeGarmo came in with beer etc etc. I
remember talking to Scott R and asking him whether he was influenced by
Neil.. His eyes started shining, he shook my hand & we went on to discuss
Rush for a couple of minutes.. Really cool.

About Neil, any news on injuries or anything from that bike crash?



From: "Richard Coppel" 
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:48:06 -0500
Subject: DS for $11.87

If you go to and sign up for a free email address
you will receive a $10 dollar gift certificate at Music Blvd.
DS cost only $18.88 at Music Blvd. and after the discount
and shipping price the total is $11.87. The Offer is good till the 
31st of October. I'm sorry if this post is to late.

"Lisa, if you don't like your job, you don't go on strike:you just go in 
everyday and do it really half-assed. That's the American way."	
 Homer J. Simpson


Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:38:52 EST
Subject: The Fly

Thank you Rush Mgr for letting this go throuhg.

  Hi all,
     In my continuing effort to organize my life and pay the mortgage I've
decided to sell some of the Items that I do not need or listen to anymore.

     I have a copy of the Fly ($25.00)  and a copy of Lock Stock and Barreled.
($50.00 2 cd's) They are not the best boots out there but if you don't have

     I'm only asking what I've paid for them)and I"ll pay the postage to the
first person that sends a bank check or money order.

     Please call or email for availability as I only have one copy of each.

Neil Poster
978/499-0444 est.  evenings only

     The sdtrij co ei


From: "Chad Werner" 
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998  7:08 -0600
Subject: Adding a Fish or 3 to the Bouillabaise that is the NMS

     1. Recent issues have taken a turn to the bizarre & borderline 
     irritating: Some guy from Iowa reporting that "Whatever" just opened 
     (a joke?)? Neil mountain climbing? A motorcycle accident? And (cue the 
     ominous music), Religion makes its dreaded return along with its 
     bastard cousin, Doomsday! Let's not forget about the blatant Rush 
     worship & the lengthy South Park installments. JESUS! We're weirder 
     than other music fans.... This much I know.
     2. I just saw PJ Harvey last night. For the unitiated, I'm sorry, but 
     I really can't describe her style; except to say it's spooky. Whenever 
     I see a show that I like, I generally post it here to recommend it to 
     others. I don't know what the rest of you listen to, but, yes, if PJ 
     comes to your town, I recommend you go see her. Why bring these 
     concerts up at all? Why post our OTHER favorite bands (see below)? 
     Maybe, just maybe, someone will be turned onto something else. I have 
     another reason for bringing up PJ, though. She would be a great 
     addition to Victor II. No one's mentioned her yet, but after seeing 
     her, I know that she would be a great vocalist (plays guiffar, too) 
     for Alex's next project. Now, someone just has to tell Alex....
     P.S. My other favorite bands and/or musicians? Funny you should ask:
          Rocket From the Crypt
          Rolling Stones
          Down By Law
          Public Enemy
          Beach Boys
          etc., etc., etc.....


From: Jeffrey Balog 
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:15:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: DS Premier in NYC

Attention all Rush fans in the New York City listening area,

	The DS album premier will be broadcast on 102.7 WNEW on  Nov 4 at 
10:00 PM.  
	Can't wait.



From: "Jim Donahue" 
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:24:35 -0800
Subject: JACK KLUGMAN??!!??!!

>From:	Jose Ramos 

 "If there was a movie made about Rush, who would play the band members?"
IMHO, I think Neil should be played by Jack Klugman.  Remember the Odd
Couple episode when he had to fill in as the drummer for Felix's band.  He
had some real talent on the skins, don't ya think?

I'm still doing the virtual ROFL !  "Ladies and Gentlemen, The Coroner on
the drum kit!" Oh gosh!  Or imagine Oscar Madison munching on donuts as he
bikes across Africa, being chased by a couple of ostriches trying to peck it
out of his hand.  Let's see, Felix would have to play Geddy and then who are
you going to get for Alex?  I guess we could bring in Leonardo di Caprio for
the youth audience appeal.  Hah!

Actually - - - I was thinking of the following cast for Rush the Movie:
Tom Hanks as Neil Peart (kinda serious, quirky)
Robin Williams as Geddy Lee (give him a pony tail and set him loose)
Mike Meyers as Alex Lifeson (blonde wig)
Also Starring:
Martin Short as Hugh Syme  "I envision a naked guy and a big red star"
Chris Elliot as the Naked Guy with the Big Red Star  "Could uh, we get a
little heat in here please?"

Or as an alternate cast, we could have the X-File's Lone Gunmen trio to star
as the Rush Boys.
They could be hard at work deciphering the meaning to their own songs when
the black helicopters come for them.  Chase ensues...

Ah, so many possibilities...

Jim Donahue
"the unaware are unaware they are unaware"


From: Cantu Jorge E 
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:24:13 -0600
Subject: Neil very look alike.

Hi u all,

Just briefly. 
Has anyone noticed the similarity between the Chicago Bears Quarterback Erik
Kramer and Neil.
I think it's amazing.
Check it out on Sunday.

"Why are we here ?..."



From: "Brandon Erickson" 
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:50:38 PST

>And it would have made a better basis for a song than "Dog Years."  I'm
glad Neil admitted to being hung over.  I'd hate to think he
wrote that garbage sober<

Hey Michael, just because Neil said he was hung over when he wrote those 
lyrics, doesn't mean that they weren't up to par. I wrote some of my 
best papers back in school (3.88 GPA) when I was hung over. Besides, if 
they thought the lyrics sucked, why would they use them on the album, 
knowing what kind of perfectionists they are? If you are wondering, yes, 
I like that song. Now if you really want to wonder, "what the hell were 
they thinking?", go listen to Rivendell.


Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:51:04 EST
Subject: U2 Best Of

I know there are a lot of U2 fans on this list, so I'd thought you may be
interested in this...

On November 3rd, U2 is releasing their "Best of 80-90", featuring yet another
"boy" on the cover.  Whats great is that there is none of that new crap
they've been passing off as music the last couple of albums (sorry, just had
to put that in and start some fires with all of you diehard U2 fans).
Actually, before I became baptized at the Temple of Syrinx, I was a died in
the wool U2 fan defending Bono with all the assholes I new, before he got too
weird/political.  Too bad it doesn't cover "Actung Baby", the last decent U2

Anyway, for the first week only (Nov. 3-9), it will be a two disk set, and
after that the second disk will be unavailble.  The first disk is a greatest
hits with a new version of "October", and the second bonus disk is the B-
sides.  I've got most of the B-sides on cassette or duped, but most of them
were never on CD.  What sucks is that not all of the B-sides are on this album

The first song on disk 2 is "The Three Sunrises", a killer song from the "Wide
Awake in America" four song disk, from the Edge's finer days of background
vocals.  The last song on Disk 2 looks like the studio version of "Party Girl"
which was on "Live Under a Blood Red Sky".  Too bad the second disk won't be
sold by itself, because I could pass on Disk 1 (almost predicatably, one could
compare it to Rush's Chronicles, i.e. I'd trade a few of the tunes for others,
ya know?).

Disk 1:
Pride (In the Name of Love)/New Year's Day/With or Without You/I Still Haven't
Found What I'm Looking For/Sunday Bloody Sunday/Bad/Where the Streets Have No
Name/I Will Follow/The Unforgettable Fire/Sweetest Thing/Desire/When Love
Comes to Town/Angel of Harlem/All I want is you/October (Hidden Track) 

Disk 2 - Bonus CD/The B-sides:
The Three Sunrises/Spanish Eyes/Sweetest Thing (Original)/Love Comes
Tumbling/Bass Trap/Dancing Barefoot/Everlasting Love/Unchained Melody/Walk to
The Water/Luminous Times (Hold on to Love)/Hallelujah, Here She Comes/Silver
and Gold/Endless Deep/A Room at the Heartbreak Hotel/Trash, Trampoline and the
Party Girl

go here for more info:

"Hey, this is Red Rocks!" - Boner


Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:51:59 EST
Subject: Different Stages Limited Edition

Is the 3rd disk of Different Stages a limited edition disk?  Is Different
Stages going to cut to 2CD's only after the initial pressing?



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