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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2154


                 Wednesday, 09 Dec 1998

Today's Topics:
                      Administrivia
                        EW Speaks!
   Re: I finally HAVE to comment on all this ... stuff
   Re: I finally HAVE to comment on all this ... stuff
                       Rush Fancast
                   Entertainment Weekly
                        Orbit Room
                      buried in rush
                           CX1
                           cd's
              Rush audio/video on the net..?
                        NO SUBJECT
                       Rush at Xmas
                    Electric Ladyland
                           P/G
               things I like most about DS
       !!! Different Stages - $1 at www.800.com !!!
        Re: 'You don't get something for nothing'
                   Geddy on Hit Parader
                          Video
                   free salad tossings!
                     Rush Web Ring???
            The Analog Kid v/s The Digital Man
                       2 Questions
                        re: chicks
                The Grateful Rush????????
                  RE: Here's what "fits"
                       Geddy Powers
                    Rush on the Radio
                    Jolly Teabag, etc
                       (Real) sales
                         Roxette?
          Minneapolis/Bloomington, 1978 (Again!)
                     Kings X new tour
                    A Work in Progress
         NBC show with Mystic Rhythms theme song
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From: rush-mgr@tnms.com (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Wed Dec  9 12:22:38 PST 1998
Subject: Administrivia

With the holidays I've been lax in updating the web page, so I am working
on that this week. Thanks to Will Holt, I now have up a QT and RV version
of one of the DS commercials. I'll be redoing the QT tonight to make it much
much smaller, I used the wrong compression last night (the RV encoder I have
will only accept videos with a certain compression, but the QT vids I do
use a better one and I forgot to redo it after I made the RV file! such is
life)

The studio RV files are down again, not because of any threatening mail but
because the machine they were on got moved. I haven't changed the link yet
because I'm not sure if the machine'll be moved again soon or not. Hopefully
I'll be able to bring them back up late next week.

I also got my Japanese version of DS yesterday in the mail. A COMPLETE 
surprise, since I ordered it way back in October. I never actually expected
to see it :-)

I will make an MP3 of Force Ten tonight and upload that as well. The packaging
on the Japanese version I think is nicer than the US one I have -- all the
cd's were put inside little cloth envelopes, THEN in the cardboard holder.
They also included mini versions of the AFTK tourbook (UK version) and the
TFE tourbook, plus a huge booklet of all the lyrics to every song on the CDs
in both English and Japanese. I wish the other verions would've included
the mini tourbooks, they're really neat to see and a bonus for folks who 
don't have them...

And with the Showbiz Today interview, I have someone insisting that it did
happen, and someone telling me they asked the program director and they don't
know of any interview with Rush. So I dunno if it really happened, was 
supposed to happen and didn't, was just someone's imagination or what...

 - rush-mgr

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From: "David Ayers" 
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 23:56:42 -0500
Subject: EW Speaks!

hey Folks!

Get this!
I received this today:

"Dear Reader,

    If you are receiving this email, your letter is being considered for
publication in Entertainment Weekly magazine. In order to print your
letter, we need to verify the following information BY PHONE:

 - the spelling of your name, first and last
 - where you're from, city and state
 - whether or not you'd like your email address to appear with your =
letter
**AND, if the answer to the above question is YES:
 - the spelling of your email address

    Please call me at XXX-XXX-XXXX so I can verify this information. If =
you
reach my voicemail, please leave the above information on the recording. =
My
deadline is this (Friday) evening at 6pm; however, if you miss the
deadline, please reply anyway--we might be able to pull off an
eleventh-hour miracle.

    Thank you so much for your time, cooperation, and interest in
Entertainment Weekly!

    Sincerely,

    Scott Brown
    ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY, ed. staff"

I guess they really do read the mail.  Unfortunately, the deadline was =
about 5 hours ago, but I'll try calling.   Maybe they're in CA and it's =
only 3 hours past deadline.  I'll call, so look for my written gripe in =
EW!  (The two of you still reading the rag, that is!)

BTW...Finally got my copy of DS.  Still digesting the CD's...need to =
tape for perusal in my car.  To this point, I keep trying to listen =
around 10-11pm and between a 2 1/2 year old and working with acute =
mental health patients all day, I keep dozing.  It's real weird to one =
minute hear Geddy singing about being driven to the edge and then a next =
line is "but he's nobody's hero."

DA

"It depends on what your definition of 'is' is."  - Bubba Bill=20

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From: "Imanaz Holl" 
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 07:06:54 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Re: I finally HAVE to comment on all this ... stuff

If you responded to my last posting about the boring philospher, the drunk,
the horrible thread, mr. "grammer" and the B.O.W.E.L. movement, I didn't get
it.  My @outgay.com email seems to be defunct, ... too bad because as far as
email addresses go, that one was a hoot.  You can e-mail me at this
functioning address:
imanaz.holl@deathsdoor.com

I do want to read your thoughts and/or flames.

Imanaz

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From: Ashim 
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 15:54:52 +0600
Subject: Re: I finally HAVE to comment on all this ... stuff

I was going to chide the Rushmgr for leaving Imanaz Holl's tirade
unsnipped, but on second thoughts, thank you - I suppose it takes strength
of character. 
Imanaz Holl said:
<>
I'm curious, which post exactly was the last straw? Since you didn't
mention Adam's CD scam post, that definitely wasn't the one. But you've
been very comprehensive, you've gone through them one by one. Did you by
some chance, find it acceptable? Things like this really tick me off.
nickb@teleport.com is bogus, we all know that. Here's a guy trying to get
other people to not pray for Neil Peart!!!  I'm an atheist too, and I
couldn't be less bothered with trying to change other people's faith. All I
care about is that no conflict should arise between their faith and mine.
No conflict whatsoever at this end. Life is bloody elsewhere, goddammit!
Take a break. 
But *small penis*, mediocre education, shrink - is this all necessary?
Don't get me wrong, this is sterling material - I had the biggest spit-take
in history (I was drinking tea). But I wonder where it's really coming
from. Let me ask you this - is the TNMS all you have to take your
frustration out on?
It was your nomination of worst thread that really struck me. I thought the
magic note thread was the best thread in years! It was very informative -
I'm sorry if you didn't get it, but the marvel of that trick shouldn't be
completely beyond the grasp of a lay person (in terms of guitar playing
that is). I always like to read insights into Alex's genius. It's the main
reason I subscribe - I sure don't want to hear people go on and on about
non-belief, un-belief, centrism, egotism, etc. For once, I felt proud and
glad that there are so many knowledgeable guitarists who are also Rush
fans. It shows that our heroes are indeed going to leave behind a
formidable legacy. Bravo to all who participated in the thread - had I
known shit from shinola before I read it, I might have participated too.
Yes! Instrumental virtuosity *is* one of their main legacies - and like it
or not, it's going to be discussed here on the TNMS. And people like me are
going to keep looking forward to every edition. Who was it that said rush
fans are essentially geeks - I think he/she maybe on to something. The term
geek extends itself to serious guitarists who pursue their craft with the
blind fanatical devotion - these people get things done, they know things.
You should be envious of them.
I'm also wondering, what would you rather talk about? Any attempts to delve
into Neil's rather tortuous philosophy comes up with 'un-belief and
non-belief'. Personally, I think these people are missing the point to some
of these songs, what he's really trying to say. Hence the tired, jaded crap.
And 'techno-babble' doesn't seem to work for you either. 
Penis-envy, masturbation, alcohol, shrinks, maybe? 
Cure: Take it somewhere else.

Rgrds,
Ashim.

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From: rodney beeson 
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 07:52:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Rush Fancast

>From Atlantic Records:

   '*RUSH FANCAST AVAILABLE IN DIGITALARENA*
On November 15th, in conjunction with the release of their multi-disc
live set,"DIFFERENT STAGES," Rush members Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson
stopped by the newly opened Atlantic DigitalArena Studio in New York
City for a special, direct-to-web "FANCAST."  The event featured a
question-and-answer session moderated by renowned music journalist
Lisa Robinson and a look back at the band's extensive video archive.
If you missed this unique oppurtunity to participate in an interview with two
living legends....well, what else can we say except for "You what?!
You missed it?!?! &*!@%!!  For the love of !@#$, how could you?? 
#$?%*!?!?"  Tee-hee, just kidding.  The event was pretty amazing,
though.  But don't take our word for it, the good news is that you can
still check it out, through the next two weeks, by clicking on the
DigitalArena icon on the Atlantic website.  

http://www.atlantic-records.com/rush 

Enjoy!
Mary Jo Plews

   [ They have the entire interview up in RV format. If anyone can download
     the entire thing I'd be more than happy to put on the NMS web site..
     (and yes, I would even make it streaming for all your streaming 
     fanatics :-)                                                : rush-mgr ]

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From: mike 
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 14:26:15 -0600
Subject: Entertainment Weekly

I am not a musician or remotely connected to the music industry, so if I
am missing the point  go easy on me.

Someone posted that the entertainment industry uses the term
"masturbatory" to desrcibe music with excessive notes/lyrics...

I was wondering what the EW reviewer who described DS as "masturbatory"
thought of Meat Loaf?????   Personally, I am a fan of Meat Loaf.  Using
this definition Meat Loaf  seems almost ejaculatory!!!!

mike

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From: kwf22@webtv.net (Keith Filling)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:09:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Orbit Room

Hi guys...

Heading to Toronto next week for the last Flyers/Leafs meeting at Maple
Leaf Gardens and would love to visit the Orbit Room.  Unfortunately I
have no clue where it is...if anyone can help with directions (we're
staying at the Marriott down the street from MLG) please send private
email.

Mucho appreciado,
Keith
(directions to: two_4_roughing@webtv.net)  

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From: TJiatcoo@aol.com
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:32:17 EST
Subject: buried in rush

Hello all.  This is my first post since i've subscribed to TNMS.  Its a Rush
sighting so here goes.  I have a game called Buried in Time, Journeyman
Project 2  (anybody know that game?)  well it's set in the 22nd century or so
and in it there's a part where there are some dossiers on some characters and
one of the characters is Neil Geddy and his interests are Baseball, The Three
Stooges, and 20th Century Rock.  coincidence?  maybe somebody on the
production team likes Rush, ya think?

   [ The guys who made this are Rush fans (and friends of mine). Their name
     is Presto Studios, named after Presto the album (it was the latest 
     Rush album at the time they came up with the name). Also one of the
     years in that game is 2112 :-)                             : rush-mgr ]

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 15:38:06 -0800
Subject: CX1

Cyg7@aol.com said:
>During the final chords of CYGNUS on my copy, an audible bump very like 
>vinyl player 'wobble' is evident 'til fade-out. Can you tell me whether 
>this occurs on the 'proper' recording?

That is the sound of a heartbeat, fading out, indicating CX-1 book 2
will follow.  It is audible on my non-remaster, and on cassette.  And on
my old LP.  You just have to turn it up LOUDER.
Sorry if this has been said before.

 - 
mike
http://cloak-dagger.com  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space
age.

Mathematically, I'm certain there are gun-control proponents who are not
paranoid, phobic, or irrational.  I just haven't met any yet.

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 15:50:51 -0800
Subject: cd's

Rather than ripping off a store by trying to exchange a non-remaster
that has a different cover, which can get you nailed for fraud, or
trying to claim your cd's never arrived from BMG here in Indpls, which
can get you nailed for fraud (US law says if it was mailed, you received
it, unless you can prove otherwise--this is why you can't skip a court
date by saying you didn't receive notice), I suggest a much easier
method:  Just walk into your local CD store with a fucking gun, point it
at the owner's head, and demand the CD.

If you are the kind of trash who thinks fraud or shoplifting is cool,
you are invited to come to MY store--I'll teargas you and cuff your ass
myself and hand you over to the cops personally--after I tattoo "LOSER"
on your chest 2112 times, so I can call in a Rush sighting (and whoever
had the 2112 Rush sighting idea, thanks, I love you.)

The stores, regardless of what you think of their service, are owned by
stockholders (PEOPLE) of all classes.  And by defrauding them, you are
taking money out of their mouths, and forcing the store (in order to
stay in business) to raise its prices and have invasive security like
cameras and goons. 

So do honest Rush fans a favor, and unsubscribe.

besides which, BMG products have their licensing stamp on them, and the
band gets less of a take, and the sound quality is inferior to standard
run disks. 
 - 
mike
http://cloak-dagger.com  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space
age.

Mathematically, I'm certain there are gun-control proponents who are not
paranoid, phobic, or irrational.  I just haven't met any yet.

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From: Travis.L.Hayden@ucm.com
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 16:54:13 -0600 
Subject: Rush audio/video on the net..?

Are there any other freely downloadable rush videos, audio, 
interviews, etc on the net besides the media that is on
TNMS?   Also, if anyone has converted rush videos to the
G2 standard (better audio/video quality), can you let me know?
Email me directly in addition to the list...thanx  I'd like to make
a CD with all of the stuff on the net.

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From: Neil Bonfield 
Date: 07 Dec 1998 04:58:56 -0500
Subject: NO SUBJECT

Rushindy@aol.com writ:

>Subject: Japanese DS
>
>Does anyone know where I can get the Japanese release of DS?  And also how
>much I could expect to pay (in American dollars please)?  I was at the
>Cincinatti show, and want to have Force Ten.

How about...Japan?

Neil Bonfield


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From: Iain Fisher 
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:50:14 -0000
Subject: Rush at Xmas

With all this talk of Different Stages i'm wondering if there is anybody
else out there holding out til Xmas before they get it.  ? Just to make
Xmas 98 even more appealing my wife will be asking Santa to deliver for
the 25th Dec.

Other Rush Xmas  - 1989 Presto
                              1985 Power Windows
                               1980 Hemispsheres and ATWAS

Merry Xmas

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From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marco_Andr=E9_Rodrigues?=" 
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:50:29 -0200
Subject: Electric Ladyland

I do know everybody (including me) is very excited about DS. But it is very
crucial if some of you may help me with my doubt: Does someboy know where I
could find Electric Ladyland in a CD version? It is very hard to find it
over here in Brazil. Could you please help me?

Marco André Rodrigues
             "Rush Rules!!!"
              ICQ 9504581

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From: "matthew alexander majewski" 
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 08:03:58 -0700
Subject: P/G

Thanks to all the kind souls that e-mailed me concerning the Grace Under 
Pressure Tour.
It was very much appreciated.
Happy Holidays!
Matt

Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com
Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com

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From: anthym@webtv.net
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:49:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: things I like most about DS

Delurking for a brief moment, I'd like to provide my 2.34 cents on DS.
Here are the finer points:

1. Cygnus X-1- This goes without saying. Alone it made the CD worth
buying.
2. The Rhythm Method- Not only a lousy means of birth control, but it's
also an awesome drum performance by our favorite percussionist. Drum
Also Waltzes rendition as good as Bruford's.
3.Animate- Very good cut of this Jungian anthem.
4.Anthem- Animated performance of the Randian manifesto.
5.Natural Science- Ahhhhhh...

The CD is great overall, but these 5 songs make it special. I like the
cardboard packaging. Now my Pearl Jam CD's don't stand out alone in a
swath of plastic cases anymore. 

                                      Scott CttC

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From: "Dan Gehred" 
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:26:22 -0800
Subject: !!! Different Stages - $1 at www.800.com !!!

Hi rush-mgr,

Thought this should be thrown at the top of the next digest:

I just went to http://www.800.com and found a special on CDs - 3 for $1!
Included in the list of about 200 titles is Different Stages!!! YEAH!!!

The best part is there is NO TAX and THE SHIPPING IS FREE (I'm not sure
about overseas - this may be limited to the U.S. only)! This is not a club
you join. How do they do it???

Quantities are limited, only one deal per household, they say, so hurry and
take a look!

 Dan

P.S. If you already have Different Stages, get another copy as a Christmas
gift! They also are running a special on 3 DVDs for $1!!!

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From: "Thomas Oderwald" 
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 15:17:11 EST
Subject: Re: 'You don't get something for nothing'

Sorry to clog up TNMS with this, but somebody who doesn't know better 
has opened his mouth...

Paul Ashley wrote...

" 1. One post suggested a way to "take advantage" of a music store chain 
by taking your old CD in and lie about it being 'broken' or 'skipping' 
to exchange it for a copy of the enhanced CD!  This little "upgrade" 
scheme is out right theft!"

>...to which I reply...

It is most definitely NOT theft. Theft is when somebody leaves the store 
without paying for the CD. What I described is merely using the policy 
of the store to your advantage. It in NO WAY harms the business. The 
Wall Music stores in the NorthEast U.S. offer this service as a way of 
getting people to pay insanely marked-up prices for the CD's. I should 
know because I worked for them for 4 years, from lowly clerk to Store 
Manager. The only harm this does is that it tends to annoy some of the 
store employees, but even they know that it does no harm to their 
business. The store experiences no 'shrink' in the inventory. All one 
has to do is say the magic words, "My CD skips".

My apologies to you, Paul. I do not mean any offense, I just wanted to 
plead my case. I do agree that the BMG scheme is totally stupid and most 
likely will destroy your credit rating somewhere down the line. Don't do 
it, boys and girls!

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From: John Lupoli 
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:56:17 -0500
Subject: Geddy on Hit Parader

Hi fellow Rushians,
	Yesterday, I saw an issue of Hit Parader and it had an interview with
Geddy Lee. It said that Rush is getting ready for a world tour. This is
just what we have been waiting for. The magazine also had a cool
advertisement for DS.
	By the way, somebody was talking about that they saw a guy on Comedy
Central (who was talking about South Park) who was also waering a
Starman T-shirt. I never saw it, but a friend of mine did and he told me
about it.

Matt Lupoli
Age: 14
North Haven, Ct
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/2740

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From: AZ743@aol.com
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:47:18 EST
Subject: Video

I may be way behind here but, when is the DS video coming out??

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From: Sarah Bettinger 
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:04:06 -0600 (EST)
Subject: free salad tossings!

"Mark L. Hayes"  said:

>Tendancy for public performers to the think that a they are above an
>laws of the grammar is quite sad commentary on their profession. A
>article is not the something to be the trifled an with.  

Shouldn't it be "an article"? Also, how about not ending a sentence with a
preposition?

Or were you trying to be funny?

Sarah
sarahb@elvis.rhodes.edu

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From: Rob Pagano 
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 17:18:39 -0500
Subject: Rush Web Ring???

Hey, anyone know of any Rush Web Rings going on out there?  I just spent
all weekend FINALLY giving the boys their due on a tribute page (well,
actually a SET of pages) and of course it would be cool if I could get
linked into a webring.

Any info?  Let me know,
Thanks,
 Rob
 - 
pagano@intac.com          http://www.intac.com/~pagano

 Each of us, a cell of awareness, imperfect and incomplete, genetic
 blends with uncertain ends, on a fortune hunt that's far too fleet.

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From: Alvaro Graves 
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:29:49 -0200
Subject: The Analog Kid v/s The Digital Man

Hi Rushians,

        This is my first post and english is not my native tongue, so I'm
sorry if I make any mistake.

        I don't know if this has been posted before, but there are some
relation between The Digital Man and The Analog Kid? I mean, you can think
in this way:

        People           Kid                   Man
                  were           and now are 
       Machines          Analog                Digital

Anybody has a theory?A proposal? Anything?

Thanx
Salu2

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From: JVCarbon@aol.com
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:40:14 EST
Subject: 2 Questions

Did everyone read this post by Imanaz Holl (TNMS Critic)
?

<<>>

Definitely one of the funniest things I've read on this list in 3 years!  Way
to skewer some egos....

Anyway, on to my 2 questions:

1)  How long has Rush been using intro music at the start of the concert?  ie,
3 Stooges on Signals, P/G tours, Cartoon guys on HYF, Presto tours, RTB?, 2001
on CP/T4E tours.  When did this start and what was it?  On ATWAS, you get the
"Alright, will you please welcome home....RUSH!" intro, then on DS Disc 3 from
the AFTK tour, a similar announcement.  What did they do on Hem tour?  PeW?
MP?  

2)  When did the rear projection screen start?  My first concert was Signals
and it was in full force then.  Anybody know or remember when and how this
started, ie, what kinds of stuff did they show during which songs?

See ya!

JV

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From: Kevin Haines 
Date: Tue,  8 Dec 1998 09:17:08 +1030 (CST)
Subject: re: chicks

Alex Smith  writes:
> Anyone know anything about a band called Sky???

Yep - They were an all-instrumental, classical/rock 5-piece band,
including the legendary classical guitarist John Williams. Other
members were Francis Monkman (Drums) Herbie Flowers (Bass), Kevin Peek 
(Guitars), Tristan Fry(1st 2 albums)/Steve Gray (Keyboards). I think I 
got this right - I'm going from memory & it's been a while since I
read any of the album liner notes... I know the bass player was
featured on Jeff Wayne's "The War of the Worlds" album, and the
drummer is apparently very highly respected.

They released their first self-titled album back around 1980, and also 
released "Sky 2" (2 record set), "Sky 3", "Sky 4 - Forthcoming", "Sky
5 - Live" (2 record set), "Cadmium", and "The Great Balloon Race". I
think there may have been one more album as well. There's also a
couple of best of compilations around as well. I think my personal
favourite would be "Sky 2" - very representative of their work, plus
it features possibly their best known track - that being a
rock/guitar-based rendition of J.S. Bach's "Toccata". WooHoo! :)

Sorry to deviate from the norm...you can assume control now...:)
Kev
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                                                       - Neil Peart

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:47:20 -0800
Subject: The Grateful Rush????????

>Pete said:
>I've harped on this before, but I'll say it one more time.  Would it be 
>so impossible for Rush to take one (at least) nice soundboard show from 
>each tour, press that sucker up on CD and issue it?  Is that too much to 
>ask?

And while their at it, we could follow them around in microbuses, and
sell drugs and tie-dyed shirts, and grow beards, and become like,
y'know, rilly into their music, and trade old reel-to-reel tapes of
special shows...

>It would take no work at all. 

It would be one hell of a lot of work.  Obviously you've never worked a
soundboard.  And they are not the Grateful Freakin Dead.  Thank God.
(Nothing wrong with the Dead.  They ain't Rush, either.)

And there would be no damn market for the disks, and they would lose the
integrity they have about perfection in their sound (even if it means
overproducing and overdubbing sometimes).
 - 
mike
http://cloak-dagger.com  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space
age.

Mathematically, I'm certain there are gun-control proponents who are not
paranoid, phobic, or irrational.  I just haven't met any yet.

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From: Jim Questa 
Date: 	Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:08:12 +0100
Subject: RE: Here's what "fits"

In THMS, Pete  wrote:

"I've harped on this before, but I'll say it one more time.  Would it be so
impossible for Rush to take one (at least) nice soundboard show from each
tour, press that sucker up on CD and issue it?  Is that too much to ask?
It would take no work at all.  Then all you non-bootleggers would have a
chance to hear the songs that didn't make the cut on the first live
offering in NINE years."

That's all fine and dandy in a utopian world, but it's not as easy as you
make it out to be, even with todays technology.  Pluging a DAT machine into
the headphone jack of the sound board wouldn't give you a great sounding
recording, considering the fact that hall acustics and other various
factors wouldn't allow you to get a good, round sounding recording.  The DS
CD's were recorded by a bank of ADAT-XT's recording every (well, nearly
every) microphone on and around stage.  Only then could it be EQ'd and
mixed properly into a decient recording.

In addition, don't forget that RUSH is under a contractual obligation to
Atlantic.  I'm reasonably sure that they cannot just release an album
whenever and wherever they wish.

Pete goes on to say:

"Oh, I forgot.  If Rush did that, then the recordings wouldn't be
absolutely, positively perfect and free of errors."

If you believe that DS is "positively perfect and free of errors" as you
suggest, perhaps you should go back and take a careful listen.  I
distinctly remember Neil flubbing a riff during his solo.  That and other
various minor errors were included in this release.  But let's take
something else into accout - what about the pride of the performers???  If
it were me recording a live album (and I've done my share of recording), I
would want to present my very best.  Sure they're human, and human's make
mistakes, and those mistakes are funny and humorous at times, but if I'm
plunking down $20.00+ on a recording, I would like it to be their best work.

Personally, I think they succeeded.

   Jim  -

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From: cwelton@ix3.ix.netcom.com
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:02:34 -0500
Subject: Geddy Powers

OK, I'm an Austin Powers fan.  Yeah I know it's dumb but hell, it sure
makes me laugh baby, yeah!

Anyway, I caught the boys at Jones Beach this summer, awesome show yada
yada yada.  Before Resist, Ged says "this next one is shagadelic" - for
those who don't know,  it's an Austin Powers quote.  I commented to my
friend how Ged must dig that movie.

NOW listed to DS, right before Driven.  Somebody posted about thinking Ged
sounds high (on drugs) when he speaks here.  I believe he says "helloooo,
baby" and obviously "beautiful" in an English accent (though not as good as
his Scottish accent before Resist).  I'm SURE it's Ged immitating Austin.

Anyone????

Look out for Mr. Powers in his new film: The Spy Who Shagged Me.

Craig

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From: superconductor2@excite.com
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:17:41 PST
Subject: Rush on the Radio

Hi Fellow Rushians,
I was listening to the one radio station that i get where I live, (in the
middle of nowhere), and I got Rush in on the radio, and it was the king
biscuit promotional thing. this is probably old news, but they were on for
an hour, (you know, king biscuit flower hour). They played alot of songs. It
was the second time that I have ever heard Rush just casually on the radio
in years. Who else listened to it?
If you live in the finger lakes region in NY, it was on the Ithica station
of 99.9 WIII. Just thought that I would tell you guys.
erin

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From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 19:11:03 -0800
Subject: Jolly Teabag, etc

So, we are producing the shirts.  I need to know:  is the actual quote
on the shirt "Jolly Teabag Rest Home"  ?  Or something else?

The shirts will be white, with black letters, and a black EMT logo on
the right shoulder, just like the ones on the album sleeve (AFIK, that
is a US logo, Not Brit.  Even more humerus.)

Price is $15 each, $3 S&H for up to 3 shirts.  Outside of North America,
add $%, and make payment in intnl money orders or other US equivalent. 
Send to our sister outfit, 

FBN Graphics      (Nope.  No Rush fans here!)
3120 Madison Ave
Indpls, IN  46219

Money payable to C&D/FBN.  WE take Visa/MC/DISC/ETC by phone.  We are
moving, so give us a day or two, but I think the new number is (317)
784-7443.  Or check our old # at (317) 352-9990 for a forwarding msg.

We are starting now, and will produce 48.  Only if there is overwhelming
demand will we do more.
 - 
mike
http://cloak-dagger.com  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space
age.

Mathematically, I'm certain there are gun-control proponents who are not
paranoid, phobic, or irrational.  I just haven't met any yet.

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From: "Terry Worley" 
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:59:57 -0800
Subject: (Real) sales

>>For fact, I know that RUSH's contract with Atlantic is not a multiple
>>record deal.  As we all know, since moving from Mercury to Atlantic
>>Records in the US, the boys have not had a «big selling» album.  Presto,
>>Roll the Bones, Counterparts and Test For Echo all sold around 600,000
>>copies: gold certification.
>
> This is partly due to the fact that CD's rarely get damaged enough, or
> wear out enough, to replace, the way tape or vinyl does.  The reason
> Pink Floyd's DSOTM sold so well for years was that people played it
> until it wore out, not that new people were listening to it.
>
Kinda like me first buying PeW on vinyl, then on cassette to listen to in the
car, then on CD, then on remastered CD. 4 copies attributed to me whereas I've
only bought one copy of T4E so far. I'm convinced that only a few thousand Rush
fans actually exist, but we keep buying the same material over and over again...

 terry

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From: "Rebeca Sanhueza H." 
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:21:55 -0500
Subject: Roxette?

Dear Rushers:

This is a funny story. I was one evening in my apartment speaking with a 
33-year old lady (who happened to be my landlady...) when suddenly on the radio 
they started playing 'Everyday glory'. Then I said "oh, what a surprise that 
they are playing Rush in this station', and then I was completely shoked 
after I heard this lady replying "Rush? I've heard this song before and I 
though it was Roxette!"...
Can you believe it? There's certainly people there who can't tell the 
difference between Pong and Super Nintendo...

La Rebe Sanhueza.

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From: nickb@teleport.com
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:59:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Minneapolis/Bloomington, 1978 (Again!)

> From: "Flynn, Jason R" 
> Subject: OK OK Fargo!
[...]
> P.S. To whoever wrote about the Bloomington vs. Minneapolis date in 1978,
> they gotta be the same thing.  Bloominton's a suburb and Rush often played
> the Met Center (before it turned into a shopping mall parking lot).  I don't
> think they would have played the two cities separately.

You're right, of course.  I was being unforgivably lazy
in not distinguishing between Bloomington and Minneapolis.
FWIW, Rush played in St. Paul for the Hemispheres tour at
the SP Civic Center.  General admission, drugs, etc...

Tangent:  I have a poster of a satellite image of the Twin
Cities.  The photo was taken after Met Stadium was torn
down, but before the Mall of America(TM) was built in its
place.  It looks cool--just a big ol' hole like a meteorite
crater.

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From: Martin Urionaguena 
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 00:21:53 -0300
Subject: Kings X new tour

Hi! from Buenos Aires. I'm traveling to the USA on February, and I'll be
assisting to the Kings X concerts in Florida, I love their sound !!!
The complete tour dates list is at:

http://www.compassnet.com/grump/tour.htm

Any Rush fan to meet there at The Chili Pepper in Ft. Lauderdale?

See ya'

 ---------
"Rush. They must have been one hell of a band."
(2112 Tourbook)
                    
Martin Urionaguena
Buenos Aires
Argentina

urionaguena@sminter.com.ar  

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From: rushfan.2112@juno.com (Christopher W Lindsay)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:47:02 -0500
Subject: A Work in Progress

Hello.  It's been awhile.  Taking 6 classes this term and can proudly
say that it will be a bad song on a RUSH album that I ever take 6 again!

Just got a look at "A Work in Progress."  Pretty good.  I mean, a non-
drummer like myself, it was entertaining and understandable.  I
personally loved watching him drum.  It amazes me how complex
his drumming is, but when he breaks it down, he presents it like
it really isn't that difficult.  I still say it is, though.

If this is already been mentioned, I apologize, but did anyone catch
the name of Neil's boat?  I believe it says Mz. Jackie.  Is Mz. the
Canadian
equivalent to Mrs.?  I thought it was a nice touch to name your boat
after 
your wife.  I feel bad about what has happened since then.

Anyways, Different Stages rocks!  "The Spirit of Radio" has a lot of
energy.
That's all.  Thanks for reading!

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From: "christopher dannhoff" 
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:37:16 PST
Subject: NBC show with Mystic Rhythms theme song

I see there was lots of debate over which song was the theme song for 
which show. It was most definately Mystic Rhythms, and I'm pretty sure 
the show was called 1986, and it most definately was a newsmag show.

"The point of the journey is not to arrive"

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