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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2159


                 Wednesday, 16 Dec 1998

Today's Topics:
                    What is going on?
               Mike Bahr and Prism Records
                    Fun with Force Ten
                           2/3?
 Power Windows Update - Different Stages Desktop Theme!!
         Relayer by Yes not as good as I thought
                         well...
                      Re: Orbit Room
            Fastest Guitarist is definitely...
                         (none)
                   Keep up the flames!
                    RUSH Pinball game
               Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame.
                    re: Rush Remasters
                          Top 20
                 You know it's time.....
               I heard "New World Man" too!
                   guitar speed demons
                    Fastest Guitarist
                there's space for both ...
             Re: Rush 'sighting' at Wal Mart
                       Re:Dinosaurs
        Rush's "Tinkerlith" = Zeppelin's "Obelisk"
                    Re: 1st Epic Song
                 RE: Hall of Fame reprise
            RE:  Deeper Into The Rhythm Method
                    Re: 1st Epic Song
                      An Observation
                       The BMG saga
                  just had to comment...
                    Re: An Observation
                    rush on the radio
                       record cellZ
                     repub vs. democ
               Synth in Xanadu.DS; Politics
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From: "steve mouton" 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:20:01 PST
Subject: What is going on?

I heard on my radio station that DS is the last live performence cd that 
RUSH will release.  I also heard that they might be down for good soon?  
THey Said the Geddy are waiting on Alex and Neil to decide what they 
want to do.  What the heck.  I have never seen them live I hop-e to see 
them before they retire this sucks

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From: Rich Rochelle 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:55:50 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Mike Bahr and Prism Records

Yo,

I, too, have been dicked out of my boots that I was oh so excited to be
getting!  Yippie!  What a dick.  My boots have "being mailed" since June on
orders that I had from 6 months before that.  To give you an idea of how long
I have been waiting, I have moved twice since I placed my order!!!

Anyhow, Bahr's address is durnik@goodnet.com and his wife's address (who is
supposedly doing the shipping) is emerald@goodnet.com

He is supposedly running a gaming center somewhere in Mesa.  It's called
Wizard's Tower Gaming Center.  I used to live in Phoenix, but I moved
(TWICE!!!) before this place even opened.  I don't know the number, but I'm
sure that he would deny any involvement with anything relating to Prism, but I
guess you could giving it a try.  Call informationg and ask for area code 602,
Mesa, and the name of the store and email me if you get the number!

Good luck, you're gonna need it!

Rush content:  For some reason, I find myself listening to 2112 over and over
again (from DS).  I have all of the other tunes about 8 times on different
rare recordings, but I don't have a good version of 2112.

Rich 

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From: "Joseph Ornelas" 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:48:21 -0800
Subject: Fun with Force Ten

There are probably a lot of us who simply can't afford the $50+ for the Japanese
version of DS.  What to do, what to do.  If you really want the Japanese DS
feeling at no cost to you, download WinAmp (www.winamp.com).  It allows you to
make playlists with MP3s and CD audio tracks.  Simply make a playlist out of DS
Disc 2 and then stick your Force Ten MP3 (available at the NMS homepage) in on
track ten.  Force Ten, track ten, get it?

   [ Force Ten is on disc two, between Natural Science and The Spirit of
     Radio (making it track 10). 

     It was recorded at Cincinnati's Riverbend on June 4, 1997.    : rush-mgr ]

Joseph Ornelas
nexthttp@geocities.com
http://surf.to/nexthttp

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From: "Chesley Bryan" 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:17:03 -0600
Subject: 2/3?

First, I agree that the 2/3 section near the beginning is a respectful to nod
to Max Roach, who I guess did this kind of part many years before Bozzio?   I
don't know, but certainly it is like The Drum Also Waltzes.  Perhaps it is
even a nod to Bill Bruford....?

I hate to call ya on something but I've never even heard of a 2/3 time sig.
2/2, 2/4, 2/8 and even 2/16 but know 2/3...

I beleive you were wanting to say 3/2 ...ONE..two..three
TWO..two..three...ect.

Chesley Bryan
Director of Marketing Research
KLTV
cbryan@kltv.com

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From: Hanstones@aol.com
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:12:15 EST
Subject: Power Windows Update - Different Stages Desktop Theme!!

Attention all planets of the solar federation: Power Windows website update.

I've added more goodies to my website, including my "Different Stages" desktop
theme, plus more wallpaper including the cover of "Rush Through Time".  And
for all of you that thought my old P/G cover image was as bad as I though it
was (actually, I didn't scan that one) I have a new one for download.  Both of
those images were contributed by Steve Longo (thanks Steve!)

And the first person to notify me of any errors in my links, i.e. html code,
etc., will win a million pounds from the Bourogh of Shmeng slush fund.

http:/www.2112.net/powerwindows <- "New wonders in the world, wonders in the
world they wrought."

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From: BRAD  WEBB 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:32:06 -0700
Subject: Relayer by Yes not as good as I thought

Back a few weeks ago, I read a post where some
interviewer asked Geddy what album he would salvage if
his house was about to burn down.  To which he
immediately responded, "Relayer by Yes".     After that, I
went out and purchased Relayer and I am fairly
unimpressed with the album.  I would have thought that there
would be some really great bass playing because many
other people on TNMS agreed with Geddy's
recommendation.   
Can someone out there help me appreciate the album
better?  I'm thinking that I just wasted $14.00.

Brad

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From: p_ferrara@juno.com (Paul J Ferrara)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:39:39 -0500
Subject: well...

As some of you may know, my old web sever quit on me, and
my web page went down with it. Luckily, I found a better server :) and a
backup of my old page! I am currently writing an _all new_ website, but
it wont be up for a while with school and all... I plan on working on it
during Christmas Break! This site is not fully functional, I wansnt going
to put a
bunch of work into a site I was going to scrap when i finaly finish my
site.. oh well, you get the point. Its better than nuttin! Funstuff dont
work, nor does simpsons. Those are the main areas that i have found to be
defunt. Also some of the images might be broken, but i should have an ALT
text in place. 

so give her a try!

http://www.2112.net/syrinx

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From: kwf22@webtv.net (Keith Filling)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:19:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Orbit Room

Thanks to all who responded to my Orbit Room request...we found it and
had a blast.  The Dexters were playing that night and the place was
packed.

Max--Justin asks that you don't badger him with the video camera
anymore...  :)

Thanks again,
Keith

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From: BRAD  WEBB 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:52:57 -0700
Subject: Fastest Guitarist is definitely...

No question about it -- the world's fastest Rock & Roll
guitarist is Nuno Betterncourt from the recently disbanded
"Extreeme".  If anyone cares to doubt me, please listen to
the following tracks:

First part of He-Man Woman Hater from their album
"Pornograffitti"

Midnight Express from their album "Waiting for the
Punchline"

If anyone can think of a musician with faster chops, please
name artist, album and track.  Although I am quite certain
that there is not another as fast as Nuno.

Thanks,
Brad 

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From: William MacDonald 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:46:56 -0500

To settle the BMG debate once and for all, the following is taken from the
BMG web site, in their FAQ listing:

>>>
Are the Club's CDs and tapes as good as the ones I can buy
in the store? 

        You have our promise. The product sold to our
        membership is of the highest quality and is exactly the
        same as the product sold in retail stores. 

        You may find it interesting to know that our Club does
        not actually manufacture cassettes or compact discs.
        We obtain our inventory from manufacturers who
        produce the selections for retail stores, as well as for
        the Club. For inventory purposes we indicate our
        product has been manufactured for our Club and attach
        our unique selection number. 

        We stand 100% behind our product - and guarantee
        replacement or credit to your account if you should
        receive a defective selection. 
<<<

If you want to check for yourself, hop on over to:

http://www.bmgmusicservice.com/top.jhtml?page=%2Fpop%2Findex.jhtml&club=pop

and then hit the FAQ button on the left.  The pertinent question is in the
subsection entitled "Miscellaneous."

Thanks to all on responding to my "digital is digital" claim (and to all
others who offered their $0.02).  I admit that this statement was not 100%
accurate, and I appreciate the education.  However, my main point was that
BMG deals only with the real McCoy, not some cheap imitation.  I could see
why collectors don't like these versions, since they are tainted with the
BMG stamp.  However, for those of you who buy CDs simply for the music
(like me), the BMG versions are completely satisfactory.

I hope this ends the debate.

Regards,

William MacDonald

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From: "Bruce Carlson" 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:58:30 -0500
Subject: Keep up the flames!

Just wanted to say thank you flamers for all the hash words!  TNMS =
wouldn't be the same without some sword rattling and name calling.  =
That's entertainment!

Fantasy for sale

Bruce

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From: "Michael Denney" 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:19:12 -0600
Subject: RUSH Pinball game

>From Mike Denney:= archangel@premiernet.net
I saw a Guns 'n' Roses arcade pinball game yesterday.  Why doesn't someone
pool some resources and grace us with a Rush pinball game, and/or release
it in the (perfect for the digital age) videogame format?  Just talking...

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From: Kurt Smith 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:35:13 -0800
Subject: Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame.

Could somebody tell me--I don't know--does every band require a petition
to get in or is it decided by a panel of writers like baseball's?

It seems to me that there are a lot of Phil Rizzutos, so to speak, in
the Rock and Roll Hall. I don't see how Rush could NOT be inducted,
given their enormous contribution. In other words, if they need to be
told, the hell with them.

22 certified gold records. Their entire catalog. That's at least
11,000,000 times someone saw fit to buy a Rush record. That's not good
enough? Let me rephrase that--THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH? Okay, what about
all the ticket sales? I don't know, but I imagine that's in the
10,000,000 range too.

The point is that Rush unquestionably deserves to be there, and while I
think it's nice that their fans are willing to draw up a petition, it
shouldn't even be necessary. If The Dead is in, Rush should be in. My
opinion is that they probably will get there eventually, but then again
they might be ignored just like they are by all the institutions in
popular music. The shame of it is that Rush has made a buck or two for a
lot of people.

It's probably not as important as we may make it out to be, but it does
irk me to think about it and EXPECT our heroes to get the shaft again
when it comes to recognition. But then again, the same mainstream folks
that buy Spice Girls CD's are the ones that elected Bill
Clinton--twice--so why should they consider honesty and integrity to be
factors?

I'm not wasting my time petitioning the ignorant. I've got better things
to do.

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From: Brian Reed 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 20:08:50 -0800
Subject: re: Rush Remasters

Ever hear the original Hemispheres CD? Considering what they had to work
with I thought they did a WONDERFUL job on the remaster. Put any of the
originals next to the remaster and you'll notice a dramatic difference.
To my ears, the Zep remasters have a tinny sound, by far inferior to the
Rush discs ( although the music is great!).

Just an opinion,

Brian

Kevin Haines wrote:

Gang,

Am I the only person who was a little disappointed with the quality of 
the remastering of Hemispheres? Specifically, the tape hiss at the
start of La Villa bugs me. I know on the Led Zeppelin Remasters they
did an exceptional job of cleaning stuff like that up, so my question
is was Geddy, Alex or Neil involved in the Remastering, or was this
all done by Mercury?  In the case of the Led Zep stuff, Jimmy Page
himself was heavily involved in the remastering process and I suspect
that contributed to the excellent job done.

As far as I can recall I didn't notice this sort of tape hiss in
Rivendell, so would this have something to do with the level of
dynamics in La Villa?

Kev
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Deadline approaches for the weary land
It used to be something but we let it run down in our hands
                                               - Neil Peart

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From: "David Ayers" 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:28:21 -0500
Subject: Top 20

To Matt M.

Liked your list of Rush's top 20 albums, but I just want to disagree =
with you on one point.
Your choice of Grace Under Pressure as Rush's weakest work.  This album =
is one of my favorites.  While I probably a gree with you on the rest of =
your selections, I have always had a soft spot in my heart for the first =
new album they released after I became a Rush fan.  Yes, I know its =
dark, but I love dark.  I love the balance between rough, edgy guitars =
and rough, edgy keyboards.  Geddy has been said to dislike the album =
because the period it represents is a dark one for him, but I have =
always liked the anger that I hear in their playing.  This album is =
unlike any of their other albums except 2112 in that they allow their =
emotions to show.  Sure they weren't happy, but most of their other =
albums have an air of detached objectivism.  This album exposes raw =
emotion on their part.  Even a song like "Red Lenses" has a darkness to =
it.  They never before and have never since balanced their guitars a =
keyboards so well with the possible exception of "Counterparts."  At =
least in my opinion.  Finally, perhaps they did sound more mainstream, =
musically at the time, but contrast their subject matter and tones with =
such early 80's contemporaries such as Culture Club, Spandau Ballet, =
Night Ranger and Phil Collins.  Those folks were all having great fun =
and feelin' good.  Rush was pissed!  Sorry, but I enjoy the latter in my =
music.

DA

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From: "JK74" 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:34:46 -0800
Subject: You know it's time.....

to make your wife listen to more Rush when you are listening to the Boz =
Scagg's Anthology and she goes, "Who is this Rush?"  Ouch, I buried my =
head in a pillow for a while after that one.  Rest assured, she found =
Moving Pictures in her CD player when she left for work the next =
morning.

JL

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From: GedAlxNeil@aol.com
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:11:00 EST
Subject: I heard "New World Man" too!

> From: Tracy Smith 
> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:19:55 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Rush moment

Tracy Smith Writes:

This was a total surprise Rush moment. It happened last Wednesday, around 
6 p.m. or so...

I was driving home from a particularly rough day at work and happened to 
switch channels to 93.1 Arrow, here in Southern California. It is an 
oldies-type station, rock and roll 60-70s stuff.

I was completely surprise to here New World Man...I don't think I have 
ever heard that song on the radio...others may have, but not me.

I sat there enjoying the moment and then triply enjoyed the DJs talking 
about how great Rush *is*, how wonderful they are as muscians, and Neil 
as a writer. It was great (one of the DJs was Joe Benson...late of KLOS 
and probably KMET???). I should have not been surprised but I was to have 
such a great moment and so out of the blue!

There is hope yet... :-)
Tracy

Hey Tracy, I live in L.A. too and I heard the song the same time that you did.
It was quite astonishing to be hearing Rush at that time.  As you were, I was
driving home from work and there it was.  I was totally surprised!  Joe Benson
is the L.A. radio legend as is Bob Coburn.  Maybe some day Arrow will turn
into an all RUSH station!

Wishful Thinking -

Scott Galen

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From: Joe Lynch 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:36:54 -0800
Subject: guitar speed demons

Someone asked about the guitar speed demons: Al Dimeola plays fast when
he wants to. Someone recently recommend "Race with Devil on Spanish
Highway." It's fast at times, but not at the expense of the music.

Others you might want to try are Yngwe Malmsteen (sp?) and Tony
MacAlpine. Seems like classically trained guitarists who slide over into
rock can play faster than anyone, but as others have pointed out, speed
isn't necessarily great music.

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From: "David M. Campbell" 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:06:28 -0500
Subject: Fastest Guitarist

This is hard to know for sure, but my vote for fastest guitarist includes
Yngwie Malmsteem, Steve Vai, George Lynch, Vinnie Vincent and an independent
shredder named Shawn Lane.  In Lane's "Powers of Ten," he lays down the
fastest solo I think I have ever heard.

Dave

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From: Guilherme =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F3es?= 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:37:22 -0200
Subject: there's space for both ...

>   [ I remember that it's track 10 on the second disc :-)        : >
> rush-mgr ]

only a question , if it is true , why can't the american edition have it ,
without losing clusterworks , there's space in the disc for both.

 guilherme 

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From: johncaulfeild@pmsc.com
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 98 08:44:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Rush 'sighting' at Wal Mart

     "The rinckster" recently wrote:
     
     just thought you might like to know that, on december 14 at least, two
     sealed beam halogen headlamps for a 1985 plymouth reliant, from wal
     mart, cost $21.12
     
     the cashier wondered why i laughed
     
     -> Perhaps it was because you're driving a 1985 Plymouth Reliant? ;)
     
     Happy trails!
     John

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From: "Keith Reedy" 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:13:49 -0500

>From: Hanstones@aol.com
>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:58:11 EST
>Subject: Re: 1st Epic Song
> I'm gonna have to disagree with your policework there, Margie (bad Pulp
Fiction reference).

Wasn't that FARGO?  Another great movie......ya

Keith
No need for a long and windy quote here......

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From: "Bryan Berkebile" 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:12:00 -0500
Subject: Re:Dinosaurs

>The crew pulled the dinosaur gag at both the shows (Cincinnati and =
>Dayton) I went to on T4E.  The only difference was the sign said:  =
>"They're not the only dinosaur trio still playing."
>
>I thought it was pretty funny and definitely gave the crowd some extra =
>entertainment.  Not that we need any.

Ditto the Great Woods show.  I thought it said "We're not the only...", but 
it could very well have been "They're not the only..."

 Bryan-

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From: Hanstones@aol.com
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:30:44 EST
Subject: Rush's "Tinkerlith" = Zeppelin's "Obelisk"

Does the fashion in which the "tinkerlith" appears throughout the DS
linernotes remind anyone else of "the obelisk" from Led Zeppelin's "Presense"
album?  The way it just randomly appears here and there?

And by the way, in an earlier post, my Margie reference was to "Fargo" and not
"Pulp Fiction" (had you thinking though, didn't I?).

http://www.2112.net/powerwindows <--- "Zed's dead baby", but go there anyway

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From: Rob Pagano 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:58:34 -0500
Subject: Re: 1st Epic Song

Hanstones mentioned By-Tor as the first epic song.

Han, I'm not sure if By-Tor quite counts as an epic, I think the
definition of "epic" is a little subjective no matter what.  Personally
I would agree with you, I think By-Tor IS.

But even if you don't count By-Tor, then "Fountain of Lamneth" is the
first true epic (being a whole album side and whatnot), even if it's
not my favorite song and it's on my least favorite album.  I guess
Matt M. forgot about that one.  So Xanadu still wouldn't be the first
epic.  :-)

Here's an interesting point of view, speaking of "epic songs".....
Would "La Villa" be considered an epic?  Even though there are no
lyrics, it sort of tells a story when the music is examined in the
context of the titles of the various sections....

RP
======
pagano@intac.com          http://www.intac.com/~pagano/rush/

Each of us, a cell of awareness, imperfect and incomplete, genetic
blends with uncertain ends, on a fortune hunt that's far too fleet.

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From: Rob Pagano 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:19:15 -0500
Subject: RE: Hall of Fame reprise

>From: Pete 
>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:03:16 -0500
>Subject: Hall of Fame reprise

>The fact is, I knew it was a joke, everyone knew it was a joke.

Well for starters, maybe you're right and you caught me on a bad day.
BUT you offered up some pretty harsh criticism against something that
you supposedly knew was a joke.  You made me feel like it's a friggin
CRIME for someone to express a little tongue-in-cheek humor.  After all,
it was around 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning when I wrote that and I was
feeling weird.  I didn't think that was such a crime considering some
of the posts I've seen on TNMS. (not referring to yours)

And I *did* read your post.  You said that only losers and non-talents
are in the ROR HOF, and you said that you didn't think Rush should be
associated with such crappy bands.  Nowhere did I "twist your words"
to fit my intentions.

There are plenty of crappy bands they play on the radio, does that mean
we shouldn't urge DJ's to play more Rush?  I'm THRILLED when I hear
WNEW play their occasional Rush song (usually around whenever a new
album comes out) even if 90% of the time it's Limelight.

There are plenty of crappy albums they sell in record stores, does that
mean we shouldn't pester the store mgrs to keep up posted as to when
they are expecting their shipment when a new Rush album comes out?

Furthermore I never said (nor implied) that dissenting opinions should
not be tolerated on the NMS, what I DID say is that criticizing *ME*
because I choose to support the campaign STARTED BY TNMS is wrong.
Rather you should be criticizing the administrators of TNMS if you
feel so strongly about the ROR HOF issue.

Oh and one other thing.  You lost me somewhere with your Niagra Falls
comment.  I am doing something CONTRARY to what people (i.e. you) are
telling me, I'm not doing anything that 90% of people tell me to do,
and I normally don't.

~RP
=====
pagano@intac.com          http://www.intac.com/~pagano/rush

Each of us, a cell of awareness, imperfect and incomplete, genetic
blends with uncertain ends, on a fortune hunt that's far too fleet.

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From: Rob Pagano 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:35:46 -0500
Subject: RE:  Deeper Into The Rhythm Method

>From: "B.J. Morgan" 
>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:02:05 -0500
>Subject: Deeper Into the Rhythm Method

Hey BJ, I love your analysis of the Rhythm Method.  I sat through it
a few times with your list in front of me, and I must admit I never
heard some of the transitions before until you pointed them out.
I actually got tingles listening to it!

Good job dude!

~RP
=====
pagano@intac.com          http://www.intac.com/~pagano/rush

 Each of us, a cell of awareness, imperfect and incomplete, genetic
 blends with uncertain ends, on a fortune hunt that's far too fleet.

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From: "Drs. Samuel A. and Marta P. Scott" 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:58:11 EST
Subject: Re: 1st Epic Song

"From: Hanstones@aol.com

Matt Maholchic said the the first Rush epic was 'Xanadu'".  

I'm gonna have to disagree with your policework  there, Margie (bad Pulp
Fiction reference).  I would say that weighing in at over 8.5 minutes,
"By-tor
and the Snowdog", from FBN, would be the first epic song."

How about:
	The Necromancer
	The Fountain of Lamneth
	2112

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From: Michael Allan Leach 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:36:54 +0000
Subject: An Observation

In the last NMS (#2158), I read:

December 14, 1998

To all Rush fans,

>...it appears that true die hard Rush fans are older, married, have college
educations, and are conservative.   Yes, I've spoken with many true Rush
fans, and they all
seem to be "thinking" people. 

>. . .

In conclusion, I just wanted to point out that Rush is the "Thinking
Man's Band."  I know plently of Republicans who concur with me.  And we
all know that Republicans are really the only one's in the Congress that
have any real sense.  You know, "I think; therefore, I am Republican."
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WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

WHAT KIND OF RIDICULOUS, NONSENSICAL "OBSERVATION" IS THIS??

TO ME, THIS KIND OF IDIOCY SOUNDS A LOT _LESS_ LIKE A REASONED, THOUGHTFUL
OBSERVATION  AND ALOT MORE LIKE NAIVE, ADOLESCENT, "JOIN THE BANDWAGON"
PARTISANSHIP.  ARE YOU ACTUALLY LISTENING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING???

YOU SOUND DAMN CLOSE TO PROPOSING SOME KIND OF 'EQUATION'
ALONG THE LINES OF: THINKING = CONSERVATIVE = "OLDER, MARRIED, HAVE COLLEGE
EDUCATIONS"???

(Geez, does that mean once I'm married--I pass on all other accounts--I'll
metamorphose into a card-carrying Republican like you???)

OK, please tell me you're just joking: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

 -Angry Humanist Rob.

P.S. ALL generalizations are false.

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From: Tony Autrey 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:17:23 -0600
Subject: The BMG saga

I have been a member of BMG for the past couple of years. I have been
talking to a friend of mine about this "CD quality" thing so he brought over
his store-bought re-master of Moving Pictures and we made a comparison to my
BMG version. It is identical. The track timings, overall sound, everything!
The only difference between the 2 re-masterings is that the BMG copy has
"BMG" on the disk and the sleeve and cost me next to nothing (11 CDs for the
cost of 1 - ya can't beat it!) and the retail version cost him $16. We put
both discs in the changer of a high quality stereo system and switched back
and forth between the two and they sound exactly the same. Is it possible
that BMG just takes the regular release CD and copies it? That's my bet. Why
would they do anything else? That would just add to the expense of producing
them when they were already remastered? I realize that the BMG disks will
probably be worth less in the future because they have the BMG name printed
on them, and it is possible that they use a lesser quality disc, but my ear
could not tell any difference in sound. Besides, if you're THAT worried
about your CD being more valuable in the future without the BMG name on it,
think about the fact that there are already a quadra-bazillion copies of
these CDs released and the possibility of your CD being worth anything more
is next to none unless it's some kind of rare limited release. In this day
and age it's hard to find quality and value in the same product but I
personally feel that BMG has it pegged!

Tony Autrey
Specialized Technology Group
STB Systems Inc.
e-mail: tautrey@stb.com

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From: "Catherine Brissette" 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:31:32 PST
Subject: just had to comment...

Hey everybody:

I had to respond to this:

have college educations
   okay, I do..BS and a MS in Microbiology and Molecular Genetics

>and are conservative
		sorry to disappoint again, but I am pretty damn liberal.

> Yes, I've spoken with many true Rush fans, and they all
seem to be "thinking" people. 
	I am a true Rush fan, and as a scientist, most certainly a thinking 
person...

>In conclusion, I just wanted to point out that Rush is the "Thinking
Man's Band."
	or woman's...

>You know, "I think; therefore, I am Republican."
	not to get into politics on a music mailing list, but you're mind is 
not very open if you think only people exactly like you have any 
sense...

flame away! 

Cat

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From: Eric Haswell 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:50:06 -0700
Subject: Re: An Observation

Michael Allan Leach  spewed forth:

>Okay.  I must make an observation.  I went to see Rush in Atlanta during
>the "Roll the Bones" tour, and I must state that it appears that true
>die hard Rush fans are older, married, have college educations, and are
>conservative.   Yes, I've spoken with many true Rush fans, and they all
>seem to be "thinking" people. 

You may be right about most of that, ....but hello, where does the
conservative part come in? I am certainly NOT a conservative, and nor are
any of my local Rush posse. I think it is unfair and inaccurate to label
"true" fans as conservatives...

>
>It pleases me to know that this fact.  I think I'm the greatest Rush fan
>on the face of the Earth--I'm sure some of you would kindly
>disagree--however, at least let me think that I am!	:-)

Okay, after all, ignorance IS bliss, as they say.

>
>In conclusion, I just wanted to point out that Rush is the "Thinking
>Man's Band."  I know plently of Republicans who concur with me.  And we
>all know that Republicans are really the only one's in the Congress that
>have any real sense.  You know, "I think; therefore, I am Republican."

There goes your credibility. "Thinking" is not something that comes to mind
when I hear the word Republican. Besides, remember that this list is
international; those of us outside the USA really don't care about your
politics, other than the circus-quality entertainment they provide.

All the best,

Eric A. Haswell

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From: John Parks 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 18:19:22 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: rush on the radio

I was surprised last night when on the radio during a twenty song
music block on a Minneapolis radio station that Force Ten came on
followed by Tom Sawyer.  Rush gets a fair amount of airplay for their
older material, but this is the *first* time I have ever heard
anything from HYF on the radio.  Maybe there is hope for the radio
after all.

later

==
John

When all of your wishes have been granted,
many of your dreams will be destroyed.

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From: Travis.L.Hayden@ucm.com
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:30:13 -0600
Subject: record cellZ

Does anyone have the latest info on Rush record sales?
I'd imagine that they have more platinum and multiplatinum
sales due to the re-releases.  I read that DS went gold a week
or so ago.

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From: Alex Smith 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:13:37 -0700
Subject: repub vs. democ

> In conclusion, I just wanted to point out that Rush is the "Thinking
> Man's Band."  I know plently of Republicans who concur with me.  And we
> all know that Republicans are really the only one's in the Congress that
> have any real sense.  You know, "I think; therefore, I am Republican."

Well....

I personally think both political parties are full of $hit. Instead of
dealing with real concerns in an educated fashion, they build up dogmas and
perpetuate this ridiculous rivalry between each other. Why???? No wonder
this country is going to hell: no one can think for themselves anymore!
That's why Rush fans will save the world!

Alex Smith
bacchus@azstarnet.com

"To love another person is to see the face of God." -Les Miserables

"Everyone walks the same
 Expecting me to step
 The narrow path they've laid
 They claim to walk unafraid
 I'll be clumsy instead
 Hold my love me or leave me high." -REM

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From: nickb@teleport.com
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:47:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Synth in Xanadu.DS; Politics

ObRush:  To the guy who wondered about the synth sound
at 9:20 during Xanadu on DS.3--that's a Taurus II pedal
creating the bass sound right at the end of Geddy's 
Mini-Moog solo...sorry I lost your email.

ObNon-Rush:

What's with all the recent political baiting going on 
here?  People bandying about "liberal" like it was a 
dirty word or something, instead of the badge of honor 
that it actually is...claiming Republicanism equates to 
intelligence, etc.  Truly bizarre.

Then again who am I to talk?

http://www.teleport.com/~nickb/armchair/index.html#washington
 -
 ------------------------------------------------------------------
It is by isomerized alpha acids alone that I set my mind at ease.
It is by the hops of Cascadia that thoughts acquire peace,
The mouth develops puckering, The puckering becomes a warning.
It is by isomerized alpha acids alone that I set my mind at ease.

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