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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2165

                 Wednesday, 20 Jan 1999

Today's Topics:
              Different Stages Chart History
                    concert nicknames
                  Best Ever Live Albums
                      re:In the End
                the national midnight star
                 The Phil Collins Debate
                     Re: Fish Islands
                Double bass drum examples
                      noise junkies
               Fish Islands Misheard Lyric
                    Fastest Guitarist!
                CD Boxes / Orchestral Rush
                    strange experience
                       Phish I Lenz
           Re: In The End & Rutsey Whereabouts
            Re: In The End & Rutsey Whereabout
                        ASOH Blur
                      Re: Time Sigs
      Where do the Stage Props go when they 'die'?  
                    Please Forgive Me
                    Ayn Rand sighting
            Fastest Guitarist - - -A GIRL !!!
               a kick ass Dream Theater mp3
                      Fish Islands?
                   Midwest TabCon 1999
                 Re: Midwest TabCon 1999
            Different Stages - Japanese Import
                    Online Rush music!

From: (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Wed Jan 20 12:39:32 PST 1999
Subject: Administrivia

Don't forget, Rush'll be on Rockline TONIGHT at 8:30pm PST/11:30pm EST!
If you need a list of radio stations carrying the show, check out Dr. Chuck's
Rockline page at:

Many of the radio stations listed have realaudio feeds, so if you can't
get the show in your area, you might be able to listen via the internet.
And I just found out yesterday that San Diego will once again have rockline
through KGB (which also has a realaudio feed at
If your city hasn't had Rockline for a while, be sure to check out the
station listing -- a LOT of major cities are picking up the Wednesday show
(NYC, Chicago, LA, San Diego, St. Louis, Philly...)

 - rush-mgr


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:35:41 -0800

>George Live at Wembley wrote:
>> You said:
> >it is too much to ask to listen to anything involving Kim "look how
>> well I hold a bass" Thayil--the woman who insists that music notation 
>>is a sexist thing developed by men to keep women subservient.

> All fine and good, except:
> 1) Kim Thayil is male.
> 2) Kim Thayil is from Soundgarden.
> 3) Kim Thayil plays guitar.
> 4) Kim Thayil is regarded as one of the most important alternative
> guitarists of the '90's.
> Please get your facts straight before you write embarass yourself again.
> George

ya know, I knew there was something wrong when I wrote it, but I
couldn't put my finger on it.  Very well, Kim whateverthehellhernameis.

See what comes of being a smartass at 2am?
mike  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space


From: Ward Bond 
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:45:42 -0500
Subject: Different Stages Chart History

Here's how Different Stages did on the US Top 200 Album chart:

11/28/98	#35	(Debut)
12/05/98	#97
12/12/98	#142
12/19/98	#170
12/26/98	#190
01/02/99	#200

After 1/2/99, DS fell off the charts.  All total it was on for 7 weeks.

Ward Bond


From: "Adam Loch" 
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:55:03 PST
Subject: concert nicknames

>From: "Holger Stuhldreier" 
>Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:43:05 +0100
>Subject: Re: nicknames
> ...
>Auburn Hills, MI 03/22/94
>Geddy: Ted Nugent

I think I can finish that that show, Neil was Sparky Anderson, 
and Alex was Lee Iacocca (sp?).  Funny, that was the same show that "The 
Analog Kid" from Different Stages was recorded at...and the same show 
from the Critical Mass boot.



From: Patrick Vella 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:53:54 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Best Ever Live Albums

Greetings Folks,

I am interested in picking up some great live albums.
Would appreciate if you could e-mail me privately or
post to the NMS your top 10 best Live albums ever.
I'm a seventies/eighties guy so I tend to have albums like:

Whitesnake    - Live in the heart of the City
Queen         - Live Killers
Supertramp    - Live in Paris
Rush          - ATWAS, ESL,DS etc..
Zeppelin      - Song remains the same
Deep Purple   - Made in Japan
Pink Floyd    - The Pulse
Fleetwood Mac - The Dance

Can anyone recommend some GREAT live albums worth picking up?
What am I missing? :-)

Thanks/Rock on...

From: "Morgan F" 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:02:30 PST
Subject: re:In the End

  I have been so close to responding to letters in the TNMS and yet this is
my first. I must admit that this commentary strikes home so much! I have
been listening to Rush for 20+ years myself and have a 'personal soundtrack'
that has been influenced by the band...or even more acurately, by the
presentation of the lyrics. Lyrics that are clear to me and yet so
interpretive and intangible as the ideas that influenced them. I have been
excited, educated, entertained, amused and even motivated by Rush as a whole
and will continue to do so even if they stop with the current body of work.
   The only part of 'Morgan F's' statement that I have is that they did not
so much chose their current profession as a livelihood as they seem to have
chosen to stick to their proverbial guns and were lucky enough to let the
profession make their livelihood. 
   As with music in the whole, I will always be grateful for Rush and the
aura they present along with the knowledge that they appear to have done it
their way!

                    Ritch Cope
p.s. Morgan F....if you read this, my wife (whom seems tolerant of Rush) to
whom I read your letter, asked if I wrote it myself. 

(Rush mgr.- I included the original message to let you know what I was
referring to. I hope that is appropriate.)

  Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:31:29 PST
  Subject: in the end

  Much has been made of the possibility of the imminent demise of the 
  musical entity known as RUSH. I have no insider knowledge, I don't 
  personally know any of the band members (although one of them and I 
  share a mutual friend), and yet I too have the same suspicions that the 
  era of RUSH may be about to come to a close.

  I have appreciated the musical genius, technical brilliance and 
  challenging messages of RUSH since my high school days. When my friends 
  were listening to Wild Cherry and Chic, and were playing Crime of the 
  Century to death, I was burying myself in the sonic coccoon of Fly By 
  Night, Caress of Steel, 2112 and All The World's A Stage. And their 
  music has been a part of my life ever since.

  I guess one could say that RUSH provided the soundtrack for my life.

  Now I'm 38 years old, with a wife and a mini-van and a 100 lb dog and a 
  credit card bill and a mortgage on a house in the 'burbs, but the 
  soundrack is as vibrant as ever.

  I know in my heart that music is a business, often fun, sometimes 
  tiresome and brutal,and that the members of RUSH chose this as their 
  profession. They are wonderful players, to be sure, but they are more 
  than that. They are human beings, with failings and vices. They are 
  members of families, with the requisite ecstasies and agonies. Like
  all of us, their professions are not the sum total of their existence. 
  That is how they  have chosen to make their living, and we are all 
  immensely richer for it.

  Now, because of circumstances of which we are all aware and I shan't go 
  into here, we may have to say farewell.

  And if they do make the choice to close the final chapter of RUSH, this 
  retirement  does not necessarily mean the end of their musical careers. 
  The producer's panel, the pen, the baton, the classroom - a whole range 
  of possibilities awaits. For a door that  is closed to one room simply 
  opens up to another.

  But if the day is coming when that choice is made, I would like to take 
  the opportunity to say the following:

  Gentlemen, thank you. Were it not for your musical influences and 
  lyrical challenges, I may not have ever read Ayn Rand, or found out what 
  Rocinante was, or delved deeper into Greek mythology. I may not have had 
  the wondrous opportunity to re-read 'A Tale of Two Cities' with a new 
  eye, or fumbled my way through the opening riff of 'Bastille  Day' on a 
  $35 guitar. I may not have ever wept at the power of 'The Pass', or 
  borrowed some lyrics from 'Entre Nous' to woo a girlfriend, who later 
  became a wife.

  The list is almost infinite.

  \So, when it's time, I shall not join in the cacophony of pleas to stay 
  together. You yourself know in your hearts the wisdom of your choice. I 
  shall, however, raise a glass of fine single-malt scotch direct from the 
  highlands and toast the years together, with gratitude and a warm heart. 
  For you have given so much of your lives to us, we cannot ask more of 


From: Dainis Garuts 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:07:49 -0800
Subject: the national midnight star

holy crap.

I'm taking this post-world war one history class this term. we were talking
about the Red Scare in the early 20's. Immediately I was swayed away from
the discussion at hand and moved towards Red Lenses.

I never realized that Neil made such an obvious historical point there. Red
Lenses encompasses the whole Red Scare thing, right away. "Says the
National Midnight Star"

The media faked the whole thing!

Talk about trippy.



From: Zahid Hassan 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:33:06 +0000
Subject: The Phil Collins Debate

Hi folks
Haven't written for a while - but I'd like to get into a drummers debate
here.  Having loved Rush for nearly 20 years I'd like to know why Neil Peart
can't loosen up on his kit.  I mean if you see him live everything seems so
intense.  OK - so he's concentrating but there must come a point in his
playing where he handled the percussion without thinking.  Phil Collins on
the other hand is so ridicilousy relaxed at the kit it's unbelievable!!!  I
personally think that Collins is technically the better drummer - utilising
more percussive sounds from electronic kits etc.  Peart makes drumming look
difficult - Collins eradicates any problems about drumming.
What do you think?????
Zahid (aka Zed)


From: Neil Bonfield 
Date: 15 Jan 1999 04:44:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Fish Islands

"Bryan 'Max' Dobberstein"  wrote:

>Do the Fish Islands really exist?  You know, the ones mentioned in
>Limelight, "Living in the Fish Islands."  What do they have to do with
>the rest of the song?

Fish Island is in the Maldives, native name Bodufinolhu. It's called
Fish Island because there are lots of turtles...which attract the fish.
It is a very popular place for tourists, who obviously take lots of photos.
So I think Limelight is drawing a parrallel between living in the Fish
Islands and being on stage. The Bodufinolhu locals definitely feature in
many camera eyes...

Nice one Max...8P

Neil Bonfield


From: "Lewis, John" 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:15:27 -0500
Subject: Nicknames

Hello all!
	It's kind of funny to see some of the nicknames that the band used
while on the CP tour, Here are the ones from the 3/1/94 in Orlando, FL:

Geddy : Bill Cosby
Neil : Jack Palance
Alex : Nancy Kerrigan

	I don't have the ones from the 3/4/94 show in St. Petersburg, FL.



From: "Littlejohn, John (C) (HOU)" 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 05:31:36 -0800
Subject: Geddy

I was reading somewhere on the internet the complete story about how Rush
got started.  In the same material a little further down the story, it said
Geddy got thrown out of the band.  It was when John Rutsey was still in
Rush.  What I would like to know, is why the heck he got thrown out.  I
don't know how Geddy is but he doensn't seem like the kind of person that
would start trouble, but I really don't know.  If anybody has info on this
let me know!!!

J. Chris Littlejohn
LAN Engineer
Guidant Corporation


From: "Flynn, Jason R" 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:25:54 -0600
Subject: Double bass drum examples

	>From: Il Yum Kim 
	>Subject: music theory and Rush/drums question
	>Also i was wondering if one of you
	>drummers on the list can point out some specific parts of songs
where >neil is using a double-bass drum and a single one. i can't tell the
Neil uses double-bass drums often--more so recently but even as far back as
Best I Can where he accentuates quarter note cymbal punches with 16th notes
on the bass drum right after the line "Well I knooooow what I am".

Other examples of double bass fills are:

At 3:51-3:52 of Roll the Bones, double bass fill with toms just before the
2nd rap section.

At 2:37 of Where's My Thing?, double bass fill with toms toward the end of
the bridge section.

Throughout the chaotic screeching parts of Test For Echo.  He's hitting
hi-hat #2 quarter notes on the beat while filling in 16th notes around the
toms and on the snare.  All the while he's pounding out 16th notes on the
bass drum.

At 2:15 & 4:01 of Totem, double bass fill w/toms before "I believe in what I
see...".  Note that each of these fills is slightly different from the

At 2:56-2:57 of Totem, double bass fill w/snare & toms just before solo.

At 1:12-1:13 of Dog Years w/snare & toms just before "in the dog days".
Snare & toms keep the beat (1-2-3-4) while double bass fills in triplets
between the beats (1-x-x-2-x-x-3-x-x-4).

Many points in The Rhythm Method from Different Stages.  In his solo he's
got several great examples of double bass technique--most of them are played
along with snare, toms and/or cymbals, but give a listen to the whole
section from 3:11 to about 3:55.  It's packed with double bass!

It's funny how in 1991 he removed the 2nd "large resonating chamber" (the
other bass drum) in favor of a double pedal played on a single bass drum in
part because he said he rarely uses the second bass drum.  But his playing
double bass drum fills and rhythms has increased quite a bit since then.  Oh
well, another reason he gave for the switch was that he was always
interested in the 2 bass drums sounding exactly alike, which is very hard
with 2 separate drums, but simple with a double pedal.

As far as your other question is concerned, he uses single bass drum almost
all of the rest of the time.  I hope this helps.



From: Ashim 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:01:42 +0600
Subject: noise junkies

Hey hey hey

Michael Z. Williamson writes:

>it is too much to ask to listen to anything involving Kim "look how well
>I hold a bass" Thayil--the woman who insists that music notation is a
>sexist thing developed by men to keep women subservient.

This is CLASSIC!! So you don't like Soundgarden either? 

>I said people who use saturated distortion to cover sloppy playing are

Ooooops! the Sequel. Son of Ooooops.

Oh, alright. I'll go along. You must be saying that the fact of a player
trying to *cover up* sloppiness is the justification for demoting him/her
to level of 'amateur' - and not the sloppiness itself. Because, you see,
otherwise this is a tautology. I am assuming it isn't and you don't intend
to waste anyone's time - even then, the point is zany... 

Does it occur to you that there may be musicians who don't give two hoots
about perfect picking and use the sat. dist. as a means in itself, to
obtain a texture to convey their ideas? And that these musicians may have
changed the rules overnight and earned the status of living legends and
influenced thousands? Could these ppl be the ones you refer to as 'amateurs'?

As for your comment on Kim, what if I were to tell you that I think Ayn
Rand was a stale fascist snot, but I love and respect Rush in spite of
that? Would you come down from your high horse? No. Didn't think so.



From: Emily Ridyard 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:55:34 -0600
Subject: Fish Islands Misheard Lyric

In TNMS Issue #2163
[Bryan "Max" Dobberstein]-----------------[ ]

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:14:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Fastest Guitarist!

John Petrucci can do anything Yngwie Malmsteen can do, except Petrucci has
emotion and plays with a band, whereas Malmsteen has a band that plays
with him!  



Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:58:05 EST
Subject: CD Boxes / Orchestral Rush

> Remember when CDs first came out?  They were packaged in those rectangular 
> cardboard boxes, or the rectangular plastic packages heat-sealed around 
> their edges with a tall, thin rendering of the album cover therein.  Well, I
> ended up collecting 17 of them, ending with ROLL THE BONES.  

Yes I remember them.  Back in college, I started a tradition in my fraternity
house, by stapling all my Rush boxes to the ceiling directly above my bed.
The rest of the ceiling received similar treatment forming a mosaic of CD
boxes, but the "shrine" was directly above me.  They're still there today.

Does anyone have any NEW info on the Orchestral Rush CD?  Is release still
planned for mid-April?  The most recent news I have said a website for
preordering was to be up for Christmas.  

Hanstones <-- "Adrenalin surge..."


From: "Chesley Bryan" 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:59:40 -0600
Subject: strange experience

This was so wild I had to share it.
I walked into a bar here in Tyler TX and much to my surprise...."Tears" was
playing over the juke box. I've never heard that one outside my house or

Chesley Bryan
Director of Marketing Research


From: Eric Hansen 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:35:43 -0700
Subject: Phish I Lenz

> Do the Fish Islands really exist?  You know, the ones mentioned in
> Limelight, "Living in the Fish Islands." 

This one brought a tear to my eye....rotflmao!!!!


From: (Robert Stanovich)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:49:27 -0800
Subject: Re: In The End & Rutsey Whereabouts

Happy New Year All,
Morgan F....your post was eloquent, bittersweet...and echoed my
sentiments exactly.  WELL SAID!!!  You sir, are the consummate fan,
regardless of how many boots you have, how many sticks you begged Larry
for, etc.  What a gentleman!!! :)  Nice Post!!!
NOW...on to the matter of John Rutsey.  For 3 years I have sat back,
listened & read to a number of unflattering, insulting things about John
that need to be addressed.  Since John cannot defend himself against the
tounge-in-cheek barbs of a few, I will.  I am NOT going to engage into a
debate with anyone about this, give out his phone# or address, or stoop
down to the lowest common denominator in a flame all you
"doubters" out will be barking in the woods...
*all by yourself.*
I am simply providing a JUST commentary on the gentleman's whereabouts.
SO JUST RELAX and read...:)
*John is alive and well in Toronto.
*John is HUGE.  He was a weight trainer for a while, and competed in
weightlifting & flexing competitions for a time (if you look through old
"Weight & Fitness" mags, you might find him in a pic or two, under
"Canadians." I am uncertain if he is still competing.
*John did a photo advertisement for a vitamin supplement and/or weight
training nutrition supplements around 1989/1990.  It was a
face-shot/shadowed/beads of sweat photo, and he had a crew-cut (nearly
shaven head).  I saw this ad ONCE...I do not have it.
*John has/is (since '95)been working on a multi-media project with
several audio/visual people centering around the controversial "Warren
Commission/JFK" trials.  I do not know the status of this
*John is a busy fellow, enjoying his life.
*John *IS* still playing drums.  I do not know who he is playing WITH as
of 1998/1999.
*I lost contact with him in 1997, after his mother passed away.  I DO
KNOW that he is doing well for himself, and he thinks we are all silly
(a good silly).
*He is a GREAT person (I've only spoken to him by phone/no face-to-face
meetings)...and he deserves a little more respect than he recieves.
Please be nice...AVOID barbing a defenseless-NICE-guy.  Barb someone
like Michael Hirsch (Lurch)...he was a JERK at a show once, throttling a
friend of mine for smarting off to him.  He's VERY lucky my friend (at
the time, pre-law) did not sue Anthem's ASS off for assault & battery.
So...barb that guy!  *HE* deserves it!!!  Or...barb John Colfield(the
projectionist during the Presto tour)his nickname was "Pork Chop &
Elvis" because of his HONKING sideburns...and he told raunchy jokes.
:) Enjoy!


From: (mconsani)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:55:24 -0500
Re: In The End & Rutsey Whereabouts
Hi Rush-heads...

In response to "Bryan Max", i could not find Fish Islands in several 
Atlases.  However, using Altavista, I found a Fish Island Marina in St. 
Augustine, TX.

I wonder if this is relevant or not...

Mark the Librarian Consani


From: "Dave Anderson" 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:23:29 PST
Subject: ASOH Blur

Hello. . . 

     I just bought A Show of Hands.  I dont know if it's just this 
certain copy, or what, but on La Villa Strangiato a "Producer's Apology" 
comes on.  It says they blocked it out because of the language or 
somethin.  Does anyone know what Alex is sayin?  Anyone at the show or 
anything?  I would greatly appreciate it if someone would inform me.  
Thanks.  Roll The Bones!

                          Dave Anderson
          Go to my page-


Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:06:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Time Sigs

> From: "Juno of Many Names" 

> >From: Alvaro Graves 
> >Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 16:13:02 -0400
> >Subject: BTW, What's the difference????
> >
> >What's the difference between 3/2, 6/4, 12/8? I mean,
> The difference is that with 3/2 you have 3 *beats* per measure, with
> 6/4 you have 6, etc. Here's how time sigs work:
> Top number= number of beats per measure
> Bottom number= type of note that equals a beat

But also, the names of the types of notes are derived
principally from a 4-beat measure.  This is why a 
"quarter note" is a quarter of a measure, a half note is
half, and a whole note is a whole-measure note.  Why do I 
point this out?  Because to those unfamiliar with time sigs, 
the idea of a whole/half/quarter note may not give an 
accurate idea of what's really going on.

An eight note is an eighth of a 4/4 measure, but not
necessarily an eighth of a 3/4, 6/8, or 7/8 measure.

If the stars were aligned and the gods not malign, then a
half note would properly be called a "half-measure note," a 
quarter note would be a "beat note," an eighth note would be 
a "half-beat," a sixteenth would be a "quarter-beat," and a 
full note would be a "measure note."  Time sigs would be 
written "4/1," "3/1," "6/.5," "3/2," and "7/.5" instead of 
4/4, 3/4, 6/8, 3/2, and 7/8 (respectively).  Or at least
that makes sense to me off the top of my head at this given
moment in time...

> 12/8 is a little odd, though; every time I've seen a time sig 
> that was a number divisible by 3 over 8, the beat is actually
> on every third note, giving you a triplet feel.

> The question *I* have, then, is what's the difference between 3/2
> and 3/4? How does it change the feel of the music in any arbitrary
> way? The best I can figure is you use the half note as the beat 
> instead of using the quarter note when you want to subdivide the
> notes without having to have a whole bunch of flags on them. 

It's weird, for one thing the whole note will consist of
three half notes.  I bet it's used for slow tempos.



From: "David Brenchley" 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:38:59 -0000
Subject: Where do the Stage Props go when they 'die'?  

>Where do the Stage Props go when they 'die'?=20

Geddy said in a recent interview, (I think it was the exclusive in =
Spirit of Rush) that all the stage prop's, pa, lights e.t.c. that the =
band have ever owned are all stored in a warehouse somewhere in Toronto. =
This includes all their current gear as well as all the old stuff they =
no longer use. He made some comment about it getting pretty full! I =
guess your giant rabbits would be in there somewhere. =20


Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:17:27 -0600
Subject: Please Forgive Me

Hey Rushians,

Especially all female fans!

My comments in TNMS #2163 were not meant to be stereotypical comments. 
I have never had the pleasure of meeting a female that liked Rush.  I
subscribed to TNMS this past September.  I was pleasantly surprised to
see many female fans.

I hope that when the day comes that I meet the woman that I spend the
rest of my life with, that she loves Rush as much as I do.  Or at least
puts up with my love of their music.  That was kind of the point behind
the comment.  It was a failed attempt at humor.  We all know how
fanatical we all are about their music.  I am sure those of you that are
married, and their spouses don't like Rush, can relate.  I have heard a
few of those stories here on TNMS.

I didn't want to offend anyone.  I don't believe in all of us flaming
each other.  We are here because of our love of their music.  Not to put
each other down, or create the controversy that starts it in the first
place.  Please forgive my incredibly bad attempt at humor.


Scott Fab....


From: "Michael Denney" 
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:34:29 -0600
Subject: Ayn Rand sighting

There's a new postage stamp (33) featuring the author Rush has nodded to
in some of their songs, including 'Anthem' and '2112'.  The Ayn Rand stamp
is due out April 22nd 1999.


From: Dennis Benjamin 
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:47:11
Subject: Questions

Just a few questions:

     When is the new "Victor" album due out?
     When is the Symphonic Rush going to be out and what record label is it
going to be on?


Dennis  (CYGNUS-X1)

P.S. If I had a Rush party in Knoxville, who would want to come?


From: Tom Slovik 
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:43:07 -0500
Subject: Fastest Guitarist - - -A GIRL !!!

Although the music is not my cup of tea...

The Great Kat

She...yes I said SHE is listed in the Guiness Book of World Records as
the fastest guitarist for Flight of the Bumble Bee.

Not exactly the sanest woman in the world///go to her web page and see
for yourself. But she sure is entertaining.

A six string dominatrix as it were.

"All right, brain, I don't like you and you don't like me-so let's
just do this and I'll get back to killing you with beer."

> > Homer Simpson.


From: (Steve Eads)
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:14:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Underrated

Rush is by far, the most underrated group in the history of
music."Different Stages" peaked at #35 on the billboard charts, while
Garth Brooks new live album went to #1 immediately. What is wrong with
this picture? I'm sorry folks, but Geddy, Alex, and Neil have more
talent in their fucking pinkies than all of the crap that makes the top
ten these days put together!!! Oh well, what can I say, I'm proud to be
a part of the Rush minority!!! My deepest sympathy to Neil for his
traggic losses. I don't mean to sound selfish, but I really hope Rush
will continue on touring and making albums. Mayby it does make me
selfish because I wan't them around. But I mean this with all respect to
Neil of course.  


From: Thomas 
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:37:39 -0600
Subject: a kick ass Dream Theater mp3

hey folks...below, you'll find a link to the download site of a kick ass
version of "Different Strings" done by Dream Theater.  I have it, and
nothing has happened to my computer, so the site is safe :-)  Trust me,
you'll want this one!  And, if your a Dream Theater'll want it
even more!!!

The link is located under the "Saturday, January 9, 1998" area.  (Yup, the
guy was still putting '98 instead of '99.  He does correct himself further
down the page.  duh!  LOL)


~~~ Tom


From: John Richardson 
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:53:11 -0500
Subject: Fish Islands?

In TNMS #2163, "Bryan 'Max' Dobberstein"   wrote:

>>Do the Fish Islands really exist?  You know, the ones mentioned in
Limelight, "Living in the Fish Islands."  What do they have to do with
the rest of the song?<<

The words are "Living in a fish-eye lens". 
They go quite well with the next line "...stuck in the camera eye..."
I was going to slam you, Grasshopper, but I figured the following:

        A: You will be corrected more than enough to fill three issues of
TNMS, so...
        B: I'll take it easy on him because I'm a nice guy.
        C: If the internet was around when I was younger, I probably would
have thrown out lyrical questions            like this looking for answers,
too. (The only reason I say "younger" is because that's when I was
searching for Rush lyrics, when I was 11 back in '81. God, I sound like an
old man!)

Don't feel bad, though. It was a couple of years before I found out Geddy
was singing things like, "Well weathered leather, hot metal and oil.." in
Red Barchetta and " the theatres and bookstore shelves." in Witch Hunt. 

One last thing. To the person that posted the tip about DS and the
offer, THANK YOU! My copy of DS cost $0.33 !


From: (Sean Jones)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:17:18 -0600
Subject: Midwest TabCon 1999

This is a general message to anyone interested in taking part in the 1999
Midwest Tablature Convention, or Midwest TabCon. This is the third annual
event in the Midwest, which consists of getting a bunch of us Rush fans
together and spending a weekend jamming on Rush songs and hanging out and
partying with other Rush fans like yourselves.

We are looking to hold this year's Tabcon in the Chicago area near the end
of July. If this sounds interesting to you, please email me at for more information.

Sean Jones


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:34:18 -0800
Subject: Re: Midwest TabCon 1999

July is impossible for me.  I don't sleep in July or August, triple
booked every weekend.  Can we do end of august again?

I also offer Indianapolis.  My place is not big enough, but we may have
room at a friend's--he owns an entire warehouse and has converted about
3000 sq ft to apartment.  no noise complaints possible--he and his
family own the block.  His living room is larger than Al's basement, and
has a HOT TUB!!!!!  Plenty of parking, either out front or behind at his
pool store.  adequate electricity.
I can pick people up at either the airport or bus station--am nearby,
and we have enough crash space for travellers arriving early or leaving

Oh, and I'll cook again.

AND some other rush fans up there have both multitrack digital recording
gear and SVHS and film recording capability.  And experience doing
mike  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space


From: John  Patuto 
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:17:58 -0500
Subject: Different Stages - Japanese Import

I just got my copy of the Different Stages - Japanese Import from Amazon.Com
and it was well worth the $$$.

As rush-mgr mentioned in an earlier edition, it not only has the bonus track
of Force 10, but it includes miniature replicas of both the TFE and AFTK
tour books along with a lyric book for each song on the 3 disc set.  

I don't know how many more copies Amazon has (I can't believe they had ANY)
but I'm sure they won't last...

Click on the link below to go right to item...


John Patuto
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From: "Penna, John" 
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:20:16 -0500
Subject: ???

good day, eh...

quick question.   any RUSH fans on TNMS living in Russia??  Moscow or
specifically?   i will be venturing there within the next few weeks.

the mad immortal man...


From: FearNo1 
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:35:35 -0600
Subject: Online Rush music!

A couple of weeks ago I asked if there were any sites that stream rush
music over the net.  Well I think I have found the place ;-)  The thing
is it streams rush b00tz MP3z.  You will need atleast winamp version
2.06 which supports the shoutcast streaming media.  The site is  A few
bad things tho: the site only streams at 24kbps so dont expect perfect
sound...its mono.  Also it has a max number of users set at 4.  Maybe
if more ppl listen to it, they will increase its throuhput and max
number of users.  The cool thing is that the shoutcast server is free
for noncommercial uses, and I dont think streaming b00tz is "illegal".
I mean where else can you listen to the necromancer played live but
over the net? ;-)  This will really be cool when/if it supports stereo


From: Dan Bruss 
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:03:01 -0600

>"Bryan 'Max' Dobberstein"  Wrote:
>"Do the Fish Islands really exist?  You know, the ones mentioned in
>Limelight, "Living in the Fish Islands."  What do they have to do with
>the rest of the song?"

>Please don't flame this person - I'm sure it was an honest mistake.
>Well, it COULD be an honest mistake.  
>   Jim  -

Or, it COULD have been a joke meant to test the waters for the


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  is not to arrive."  - Neil Peart


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