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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2171

                   Monday, 08 Feb 1999

Today's Topics:
                    Helmet Neil Peart
                  Re: Collins vs. Peart 
                       Re: Placebo 
                   Read... If You Dare!
            Dumb interview questions solution
                       Phil / Peart
          Collins vs. Peart (and other drummers)
                 Power Windows; Rockline
                Fly By Night Desktop Theme
                      best guitarist
                     Guitarists (NRC)
                   Re:  Scarred Records
        is online
                  Collins V Peart cont.
                   Favourite Album Side
                       Moon Records
                  Juno Award Nominees...
                 Video Game RUSH sighting
                  Rushian Baldur's Gate
     Re: 01/25/99 - The National Midnight Star #2168
                      Circus Dances
               great live album suggestions
                      Re: Cool Ideas
                       fisheye hal
                   Republicans for RUSH
                   JOLLY TEABAG SHIRTS
              Feesch I-lenzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
                     Video Yes or No
                      Homework Help?
                Phil Collins drum debate.
                  This review is a hoot!
                 worlds fastest guitarist

From: (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Mon Feb  8 12:57:47 PST 1999
Subject: Administrivia

Sorry for the lack of digests last week, I was in Denver all last week!
So expect a couple over the next two days to catch up.

In other news, the NEW syrinx machine is up and running! Now we begin the
long process of moving files over, we now have 10gigs of space to fill!
I should be reenabling the realvideo files shortly, and putting up some
brand new audio and video files that I didn't have space for.

I'll even try to get the TNMS page and web digests back up (they took up
~70mb by themselves).

 - rush-mgr


From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jukka-Pekka_Ker=E4nen?= 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:31:24 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Helmet Neil Peart

In the last TNMS somebody found out that is a site of a
band called 'Helmet'.
I did a little research, and found an interview from
that explains everything... 

(JS is John Stainer of Helmet and KM is Ken Micallef. This interview was
in Modern Drummer, October 1994)

KM: And yet your biggest influence is...?

JS: Neil Peart. I don't care what anybody says and I don't care how
unfashionable it is. People say they hear a lot of
Bonham in my playing - and I loved Zeppelin - but I think Peart took
drumming to another level that no one else has
matched yet. But on the other hand, I hate double-bass; it's corny.

That's All!

Jukka-Pekka Keranen


From: Slim Jim 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:50:14 +0000
Subject: Re: Collins vs. Peart wrote:

> Neil Peart is the Michael Jordan of drums.

I think it would be more appropriate to compare Neil Peart to an 
international sports star like Ronaldo, rather than someone who
plays a sport which is really only popular in one country.

But actually this illustrates a strange tendency that Rock music 
fans have to compare particular musicians as if it was a contest - 
last time I checked, drumming was not an olympic sport.  It's not
really possible to say that one musician is better than another
in my opinion.  It's fun to slag off John Petrucci though ;)



From: Slim Jim 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:03:19 +0000
Subject: Re: Placebo 

Jamie wrote :
> Ello Peoples,
> I haven't been keeping up lately, but was wondering if anyone has heard
> a band called "Placebo". The reason I ask is because the vocalist
> reminds me a lot of Geddy Lee, whom you all know and love. I was curious
> to know if anyone else felt the same way.

Yes! In fact their vocalist Brian Moloko is constantly being 
compared to Geddy Lee in the UK music press.



From: "Chad M Werner" 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:53:50 -0600
Subject: Read... If You Dare!

Ralph posted:

"I was a little bored so, I was checking out domain names for rush.  I
typed in and it took me to the Helmet home
page.  What is up with that?   Is Helmet Rush fans?"

Absolutely. The drummer of Helmet has stated in interviews that he is a
big Neil Peart fan. It's funny, I used to check out the very page you
specified, Ralph, for tour info (it used to be Helmet was a
force to be reckoned with, but, alas, they have parted ways. I think
it's hilarious that a Helmet homepage is called (maybe
this says more about the maintainer of the page than the ex-band, but I
don't know). I've said it before, but I'll say it again: if Rush chooses
to do another studio album, they would be wise to try out Dave Sardy as
producer/engineer. He did Helmet's last record, and all of the
instruments come across crisp, clear & heavy as all hell.

Fastest guitarist thread? Tee hee. Please, this is just an opinion. You
don't have to agree, but be gentle with me. Isn't the act of trying to
squeeze as many notes/second as possible into a guitar solo a LITTLE
juvenile. I'm 26. If anyone tells me, "You gotta check out this
guitarist. He plays solos so FAST", I run away. As fast as I can. What
about purely talented guitarists? Does anyone listen to Leo Kottke?
Billy MacLaughlin? Michael Hedges (sadly, dead)? These are all largely
acoustic players that are, indeed, fast at times, but sometimes they are
incredibly slow. They simply ooze emotion & talent (especially Leo IMO).
I think that when you take into account all of the guitar textures,
moods, speeds & styles Mr. Lifeson plays with, he fits into the same
category with Leo, Billy & Michael; only Alex is largely electric. Just
as impressive.

Rockline put me to sleep. There were some good questions, though. For
instance, the very first question was something like (paraphrase), "You
have done so much in your careers, what do you think you have left to
accomplish in music?" I feel that one was very thoughful, and it
seeminly took Geddy & Alex by surprise. They talked about musical
evolution or something, but that caller asked a good question if you ask


From: "Jonathan Patil" 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:29:48 EST
Subject: Dumb interview questions solution

Here is the final solution to those dumb interview

Person calls in.. a pre-recorded message asks for
the guy to state his question and stay on the line.

Some person (rush fan brought in by the station)
listens to the answer.. then weeds out the dumb ones
that would waste time (does peart have cancer, etc).

And answers the common ones.  Letting in the occasional
relavent question.

This way the boys only get the good questions.

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From: Dave Huart 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:38:01 -0500
Subject: Phil / Peart

Hello Rushdom.

   Wow.  What a firestorm we have here. I'm not sure if drawing a
comparison between Peart and Collins is fair to either man. There styles
are so divergent, it seems pointless to me.

   I  too have seen both guys play live, obviously Neil many more times
than Phil. Both are impressive behind the kit, but I won't compare the
two in a "who's better" scenario, it's as pointless as it is subjective.

  Suffice to say,  I am impressed with both guys. When I saw Phil
Collins ( 2X -1  with Genisis and 1 without) live, he was great on both
times. He is rock solid as a performer,  I had a great time at the shows
and was thouroughly impressed with his playing, singing, and
showmanship, and when the show was over it was far to soon. He is a,
like Neil Peart, a consumate professional, and worthy of my respect.

   Neil seems to be the busier drummer - most of the time, and I would
go see Neil before Phil if I could not manage to see both. However I
highly recommend checking out Phil Collins should he be in your town.

   Further I must say that bashing any musician on a list devoted to a
band whose members obvioisly respect other musicians greatly, is simply
rediculous. I find it hard to imagine any drummer bashing another, let
alone a drummer as succesful and talented as PC. Neil even invited Phil
to play on the first BFB tribute, but Phil's commitments kept him away,
or so I read in Modern Drummer.


 "Suffice to say it is one of the words the Knights Who Say Ni can no
longer here!!"


From: Ryan N Waggoner 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:28:32 -0500
Subject: Collins vs. Peart (and other drummers)


Oh, come on.....Neil is *FAR* from being an over-rated has-been.  *grin*

I definitely have to agree with the sentiment that Neil kicks Phil's
butt, though.  I just wanna toss some more names into the list of
drummers being mentioned:

Yuri Ruley, from MxPx.  Let's just call this guy the Neil of the punk
realm.  He's actually that good.  He's got speed, talent, and can just
flow effortlessly from the fastest, hardest punk you've ever heard in
your life, to the most laid-back, yet creative, swing you ever thought a
non-big band drummer could do.

Paul Roraback, formerly of Grammatrain.  (Grammatrain fans...need I say
more about this guy?  BTW, his new band's name is Gideon's Press, and
according to Paul himself, they're going to be *WAY* more progressive
than Grammatrain was.  :) )

Phil Ehart, of Kansas.  He hasn't done anything to terribly interesting
lately, apart from stealing Neil's "Fly By Night" fill, but you still
gotta respect his 70s stuff.

Aaron Smith, formerly of both 77's, and Rich Mullins' Ragamuffin Band.  A
good, solid rudimental drummer.  Never gets too funky with the beat
usually (unfortunately), but his solos are always awesome.

I also gotta throw in another mention of Stewart Copeland.  And let's not
forget some of the revolutionary stuff that Ginger Baker played in the
days of Cream and Blind Faith.

And let's not forget the father of all drum gods -- Buddy Rich.

That's my list, though.


Oh, and, by the way, I'm pretty sure the "Fish Islands" thing was a joke.
 But what about Geddy singing "Call me a Commie" in Analog Kid?  *grin*


From: "Joseph Ornelas" 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:54:19 -0800
Subject: Power Windows; Rockline

I checked the FAQ, and didn't see anything about this, so here goes.  On the
Power Windows cover, doesn't it look like our freakish friend is holding the
television remote control backwards?  Usually the large empty spot is the place
for your hand to rest and the batteries to go, not the top. Maybe someone with
the LP can see better, I've just got the CD.  If he is, I wonder what it

People have been complaining about the inherent stupidity of some of the
questions asked to Rush on Rockline.  How about this: next time we know of a
live Q&A type event, all of us on the NMS decide on one or two of the best
questions we'd like to ask.  Then, if we all have the same question, there's
more chance of just one of us getting through to ask it.  Just a thought.  BTW,
did anyone here ask a question on last week's Rockline?

Joseph Ornelas

"Revenge is a dish best served
with a choice of soup or salad."
      -Elias Bacteen, Spaceside


Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:29:23 EST
Subject: Fly By Night Desktop Theme

I now have a Fly By Night desktop theme for download at Power Windows (it
rocks!). It includes a new animated "owl" cursor which I also offer as a solo-
download. I also rescanned the Fly By Night cover image for better quality.

Thanks to R.G. Terez at the Rush Desktop Themepark, I have added the live shot
of the "Hammersmith Odeon" from the Hemispheres Tourbook, taken on either
February 19th or 20th, 1978. The bonus disk of Different Stages was recorded
on the 20th, and the CD art features a similar scene with the band members
Downloadable Rush Album Art Wallpaper, Windows Cursors & Desktop Themes
"I watch their images flicker, bringing light to a lifeless screen" - Neil
Peart, 1987


Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:04:28 EST
Subject: best guitarist

With all this discussion about the best guitarist alive, I'm surprised no
one's said anything about Steve Morse.  He definitely deserves to be up there.
I just got back from seeing him in Dayton, Ohio, and he is just amazing.  He
could even show John Petrucci and especially Alex a thing or two about playing
the guitar.


From: "Chris Dodd" 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:28:09 -0500
Subject: Guitarists (NRC)

I'd have to agree with David Ayers:

>>My personal favorite is Jamie West-Oram of the Fixx, =
however.  Check out "Deeper and Deeper,"  "The Fool,"  and much of the =
album Calm Animals.  He also did a nice guest shot with Stevie Nicks on =
"Long, Long Way to Go" from The Other Side of the Mirror.>>

>...It's nice to see someone else who really *listens* to the instrumentation
of pop music. Jamie West-Oram is an amazing guitar player.

Another personal fave of mine is Ian Chricton of SAGA. He's a great player
in his own right.

Just adding my .02 to the pot. How much does that make now?

THE Bikeman


From: Todd Garbarini 
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:04:39 -0500
Subject: Re:  Scarred Records

Hello, all.  Can someone please post the new URL for Scarred Records?

Thanks in advance,


From: "Ralph Huffnagle" 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:56:35 EST
Subject: is online

I was a little bored so, I was checking out domain names for rush.  I 
typed in and it took me to the Helmet home 
page.  What is up with that?   Is Helmet Rush fans?
I looked at the website and found this in one of the interviews.
"John Stanier's (Helmet Drummer) staccato drumming is a Helmet mainstay. His
style is the result of his combined love of punk, hip hop, and Neil Peart."
I haven't heard any of his drumming.  Has anyone else?  Does he honor Neil's
name or not?
This same site has a different name also  Same IP
different domain name, Virtual domain.  So there could also be a site named or and they could
probably be part of that virtual domain.

J. Chris Littlejohn
LAN Engineer
Guidant Corporation


From: Zahid Hassan 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:53:10 +0000
Subject: Collins V Peart cont.

Well let me continue on this controversial debate.  Some people (namely
Frank - issue 2166) have mentioned that Collins has sold out with songs such
as Sussudio.  OK fair comment - but it doesn't detract from the fact that he
is regarded as a top-class percussionist who tries his hand at all
percussive challenges (and I don't mean holding the bleedin' sticks
differently!).  I mean Collins is diverse yet can adjust with the type of
music he plays.  He's drummed with Clapton, Page et al, BB King and various
concerts featuring a multitude of musicians - namely The Prince's Trust
concert's & Nelson Mandella concert (in England).  Collins can simplify his
set up and playing - you only have to listen to Genesis live to hear how
good he is.  Could Neil do this and Relax ?
(if the argument is that Neil has to concentrate due to nature of Rush's
Somehow I think not!



Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 10:16:01 -0500
Subject: Favourite Album Side

     I just had an idea for discussion, since I get the feeling most TNMS 
     subscribers enjoy threads on favourite this & that....
     This thread may only appeal to those Rush fans who knew Rush firstly 
     by lp albums.  In today's age of CD's, we hear a Rush album from track 
     1 through to track 7, 8, 9 or whatever.  No breaks to turn the CD 
     over!  However, if you started listening to Rush on vinyl, you may 
     have defined Rush albums by "side A" and "side B", beacause you'd know 
     that "2112" was side A of the album of the same name, and that "Tom 
     Sawyer" -> "Limelight" was side A of MP.
     -> What is your favourite Rush album side?
     I've always been partial to side B of MP.  IMO, "Camera Eye", "Witch 
     Hunt", and "Vital Signs" are just incredible examples of Rush at their 
     creative and artistic best.  I'd enjoy hearing what other Rush 
     (vinyl-era) fans think.


Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 09:57:39 -0500
Subject: Moon Records

     I would appreciate any information fellow Rush fanatics could provide 
     with respect to the first Rush lp on the Moon Record label.  ie. how 
     rare it is, any idea of current market value (although that is always 
     subjective!), etc.
     I understand that there was a single (or 2?) also released on the Moon 
     label ("Not Fade Away" b/w an unreleased Lee/Rutsey track)?  What can 
     anyone tell me about this/these singles?  Are they hard to find, what 
     would I expect to pay, etc?
     Cheers and adTHANKSvance,

From: Fred Pinto 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 09:56:42 -0800
Subject: Juno Award Nominees...

Taken from the Juno Awards Website FYI:

Best Album Design (Sponsored by Ever-Reddy Packaging LTD.) 

Andrew McLachlan / Rob Baker / Brock Ostram (Creative Director) , Andrew 
McLachlan (Graphic Artist) , Bernard  Clark / David Ajax (Photographer) 
Phantom Power, The Tragically Hip (Universal)
David Ashcroft (Creative Director/Graphic Artist) , Ivan Otis / Margaret 
Mandruccolo (Photographer) Three Seeds, New Meanies (Virgin/EMI) 

Steve Goode (Creative Director/Graphic Artist) , David Anthony 
Since When, 54.40 (Columbia) 

Hugh Syme / Geddy Lee (Creative Director) , Hugh Syme (Graphic Artist) , 
Andrew MacNaughtan (Photographer) Different Stages, Rush 
John Rummen (Creative Director/Graphic Artist/Illustrator) , Jay 
Blakesburg (Photographer)  Stunt, Barnaked Ladies (Reprise/Warner) 

Sorry if this has already been posted.


Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:52:45 EST
Subject: Video Game RUSH sighting

Go here.  Don't know how long the game (Llamatron:  2112) will be available at
that address.



From: "eddy Maxwell" 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:05:32 -0600
Subject: Rushian Baldur's Gate

Hey Everyone!

How's things?  I hope well.

My spare time, what little of it there is, has been taken up
by a great computer game, Baldur's Gate.  It's an AD&D
adventure game.  You can create whatever kind of character
you want and then run around solving mysteries and killing
things.  It's pretty damn incredible.

Anyway, to the point of this post.  One thing that you can
do in Baldur's Gate is create your own .wav files so you can
be the voice of your character at certain points in the
game.  For example, when it gets dark, my character says "It
was a dark and stormy night".  Well, being the good li'l
Rushians that we are, my hub and I had to include a couple
of Rush quotes.  Here they are:

Night:  "The night is black without a moon"
City:  "The focus is sharp in the city" and "Drawn like
moths, we drift into the city"
Forest:  "There is unrest in the forest" and "There is
trouble with the trees"

My fondness for MST3K led me to have "Hi-Keeba!" as my
battlecry.  We have a couple of Simpsons quotes and just
some phrases we like of our own.  It makes the game more

Anyone else playing BG?


"Go for the eyes, Boo!  Go for the eyes!  Rusk!!"--Minsc


From: Jesse N Zamudio 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:08:00 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: 01/25/99 - The National Midnight Star #2168

last question on th speed round of ESPNs UFL game show?
Who is the lead singer of the band Rush?


From: William Hall 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:05:28 -0500
Subject: clarification...

It was written...

>>I was a little bored so, I was checking out domain names for rush.  I 
typed in and it took me to the Helmet home 
page.  What is up with that?   Is Helmet Rush fans?

Well, I looked it up.  The DNS names and refer
to the same IP address, they're interchangeable.  On the credits page
for, the webmaster makes this comment:

	I would like to thank the following:
	Neil Peart of Rush for sparking and fueling my interest in drumming.

So, apparently this is the webmasters little way of saying thanks.  But
why register the domain for unless you're going to use
it?  I think he plans to make another site for that domain name, but
just hasn't gotten around to it.
William Cary Hall
ICQ# 6956498
Homepage @
Check my Rush/DT tradelists


Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:42:19 EST
Subject: Circus Dances

Greg Sanderson wrote:

>Christopher W Lindsay  wrote:
>>"Fate is just the weight of circus dances"
>Please, please tell me this guy *knows* that it's 'circumstances' and 
>not 'circus dances'.  The Fish Islands saga was bad enough...

I guess you were "Tricked by circumstances, lose our shorts..."

>Especially since according to the misprint on the video     
>tracklisting it includes YYZ as well. 

Not on mine!

One question I have:  Ain't Xanadu great??



Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:17:27 EST
Subject: great live album suggestions

A few that come to mind:
Little Feat- Waiting for Columbus
Jethro Tull-  Bursting Out
Simon & Garfunkel-  Concert In Central Park

Odetta- black female (non-rock) vocalist- also has Harry Belafonte
I can't remember the name of the album, but recall it fondly from my youth.

"With the heart & mind united in a single, perfect sphere."


From: "Littlejohn, John (C) (HOU)" 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:03:49 -0800
Subject: Re: Cool Ideas

>From: Alvaro Graves 
>Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 13:40:04 -0400
>Subject: Cool Ideas

>Yesterday I was thinking about tattoo my arm. What important thing are in my
>life worth to be tattooed... my family, my religion, and (guess what... of
>course) Rush. So, I was thinking aboutwhat kind of Rush Tatoo would be cool.
>I have some ideas

>The Rush cover
> The owl of FBN
>the stone man of T4E

>Suggestion? Ideas? Opinions? Anything please email me or post it

I just had the Starman tattoo'ed on my back.  I had to edit the picture and
put it on a white background instead of the foreground.  I also had the
Jimmy Page sign ZOSO tattoo'ed on my arm.  Anybody else have any
Rush-related Tat's?
J. Chris Littlejohn
Desktop/LAN Engineer
Guidant Corporation


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:13:16 -0800
Subject: fisheye hal

>Ronald Smith said:
>Subject: Fisheye lens defined
> Anyway, the fisheye was born with Stanley Kubrick's classic "2001: A 
>Space Odyssey," almost a quarter century ago.

more than 30 years ago, actually.  1968.  Anyone else feel old?
mike  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space


From: "Flynn, Jason R" 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:28:27 -0600
Subject: Republicans for RUSH

	>I would also like to get the last word (HA HA)  by proving 
	>conclusively that RUSH is indeed a conservative band!
	>Would a liberal abandon a senior citizen to violate motor laws 
	>by eluding NATO detection devices to take an outlawed, turbo 
	>charged, 50 year old (65 by now) fossil fuel burning sports 
	>car on an International joy ride across pristine mountain and 
	>riversides? Then after eluding the one world, new order cops 
	>relax at a fire that is burning chopped down trees? I think 
CSmock, this is genius!  Just perfect.  Does it occur to anyone that
Rush/Neil ought not be categorized politically because they cover the
spectrum from The Trees (anti-union--republican) to Nobody's Hero
(pro-gay--democrat)?  From 2112 (pro-individual--republican) to Subdivisions
(anti-white-flight--democrat)?  From Anthem (me, me, me!--republican) to
Alien Shore (us, us, us--democrat)?  Please pardon my sweeping
generalizations; I'm just trying to illustrate the point that there's a Rush
lyric for most every political issue, and that paints a much more complex
picture than left vs. right.

What surprises me even more is the gall that some people have in assuming
that the band *must* share a particular view because they're
smart/sensible/caring/understanding.  Rational romantic people are capable
of arriving at different and even opposing stances.

democrat republican conservative or liberal
vegan vegetarian don't kill or eat an animal
pro-choice anti-gun supporting right wing left wing lunatics
can't you see Rush is a band not interested in politics?
You bet your ass.



From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:21:52 -0800

We are accepting orders now.  It took a while to get a decent EMT image
for the sleeves.  Price will be $15ish, plus shipping ($3 for up to
three shirts).  2xl sizes and larger and overseas will be more.  Call us
with a credit card number, and we'll let you know when they are ready
(before I go to Kuwait, I hope), and the total.

mike  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space


Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:32:29 -0500
Subject: Feesch I-lenzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Yo Max:

I hope your query as to the location of the Fish Islands has been answered
to your satisfaction.  I believe the consensus is that they are located
roughly between the ignorance of the naive and the arrogance of the
experts.  As for myself, I am enjoying the refreshing sounds of the crystal
blue waves crashing against its rocky shores.... I'll even send a
picture... using what kind of lens??... take a guess... that's right!!!!  A
Fisheye Lens!!!!  

Hey, isn't that a lyric or something from a Spinal Tap song?!?

Quite the stir you've created, senior!

Oh yeah, RUSH content: Dude, like, ya know... DS is totally KICK-ASS!!
Gnarley, Peace Out, blah, blah, blah, etc.

P.S. - I hope this thread never ends!  I love geography...


Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 13:25:07 -0500
Subject: Guitarists

Rush Mgr. please forgive me.  This post is very long in order to get a
point across:  There is a lot of absolutely no Rush content that is in
TNMS lately.  The following are snippets from issue #2169 alone.


In response to Thomas' post regarding DT's keyboard
player:  I'm happy they made this decision because, quite
frankly, I didn't like that keyboardist.  His singing parts on
Infinity made certain songs unlistenable.  Good luck to them
with their new memeber.

"From: maxrich@mindspring.comDate: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:10:43 -0600
I read about "The Great Kat" in the last posting, and went to the site
=listed .  Does anyone know what's up with this.  I can't
tell if this is some sort of joke or not.  She is supposedly (according
to some comments she had listed) better and faster than anyone including

Vai, Malmsteen, and Satriani.  She looks like some sort of devil
worshipper slut to me, but I'll give it a listen if it's any good.
Comments? Info?
"You can be the captain, and I will draw the charts. Sailing into =
destiny, closer to the heart"  Max Richard"

I'm an infrequent poster but thought I might chime in on this issue.  I
work for my college radio station both as a DJ and music reviewer so get 
my hands on lots of CDs (like Different Stages early, and all the promos 
etc..) anyway The Great Kat (as I recall) is this woman who basically
plays really strange classical music.  She is not a technical Guitar
Player or anything like that.  In my opinion her music is terrible..
but hey  who am I to judge for others

Hey Rush soulmates-

There's been a lot of talk lately about guitarists, and I noticed an
interesting post about Steve Vai and Eddie Van Halen last time.  Here are
some thoughts, what does everyone think?

First, I'm informed; I've been playing guitar for 16 years and have been in
three bands.  I'm not a 15-year old kid with an Electra Les Paul copy in the
closet and a Gorilla amp by the bed.  :)

I used to spend a lot of time comparing and contrasting guitarists, because,
like most Rush fans I suspect, I'm a digger and analytical about stuff.  I
grew up on Townsend, Hendrix, Skynard's guys and all the 80s metal guys.  I
fell in love with Eddie for life when I heard "Dreams" in 1986 and saw VH at
the Worcester Centrum.  I then ran out and bought all of Van Halen's albums
from 1978-84 and absorbed them.  When I went to college I was exposed to

Sabbath, Cream, Maiden, AC/DC, ELP, Fripp, Steve Vai, Satriani, et. al.  I
patiently listened to Yngwie when all my buddies were raving over him but
just was not moved.  Impressed, oh yes; but not moved.  "Crazy Train",
now THAT moved me.

There are millions of phenomenal guitarists out there who I have not listened
to and could never judge anyway.  How can I compare the playing of two
people?  It would be like saying the Soft Watches are better than the Last
Supper, or comparing Grieg's Concerto in A minor to Beethoven's Ninth.

All artistry is unique, even if you are copying somebody.  I can play the
solo to "Limelight" note for note.  Every time I play it, I play it like

ME, not Alex.  But I didn't write it!  So we have to put creativity into the
formula.  And when Alex wrote it, he had others helping him.  Page, Hendrix,
Clapton, Beck, and everyone else he loved growing up.

So...all guitarists are extensions of the other players they have learned
from.  And some guitarists have exceptional creativity.  Those with that 
creativity inspire others.  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

When you combine great creativity with great intellectual working knowledge
of music theory and technique, you have virtuosos.  Joe Satriani, Robert 
Fripp, Al DiMeola and Les Paul come to mind.

But does this make these guys 'the best ever?'  That's like saying Jim Brown
was better than Walter Payton or Barry Sanders, or Neil Peart is better than
Buddy Rich or Keith Moon.  All artistry is unique, even when copied from 
somebody else.  Sure, Peart could play the Overture from "Tommy" note for
note.  But it was Moon's own personal creativity and orchestral style that
made it beautiful, just as it's Peart's own creativity and intensity that
makes the three sharp tom blasts in "A Farewell to Kings" special, right 
before the second verse ("the hypocrites are slandering...")

So, what I'm saying is this: while comparing and judging guitarist is fun and
interesting, it's basically pointless.  I love "Stopping by woods on a snowy
evening" for what it IS, not because it reminds me of "Do not go gentle into
that good night."  I love "A Tale of Two Cities" for what it IS, not because
it reminds me of "The Red Badge of Courage".  When I listen to guitarists
play, the beauty of each artist becomes a separate entity to me.  I don't
WANT the solo from "Johnny B. Goode" to remind me of "Crazy Train." Each is
beautiful when left alone.  Even more beautiful is how artists give to each
other.  The very fact that Randy was a rock guitarist means that a little
spark of "Johnny B. Goode" was with him when he wrote that magnificent solo,
which blends rock, metal and classical styles in a lovely frenzy.  Just as
Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson and BB King were with Berry when he wrote
"Johnny B. Goode."

If you want to rate guitarists, I suppose you could rate them for how much
influence they had on their genre.  On this basis and this basis alone, I
would put Hendrix at the top of the rock list.  But is Hendrix better than
Steve Vai or Eric Johnson?  Come on.

Each solo is a painting.  Some are just haberdash, filled with a thousand
notes that don't really say much; most are forgettable and redundant (like
mine!) :)  But there are solos out there that have inspired and lifted others
to copy them- the sincerest form of flattery.  When a solo reaches a huge
audience, you have a Mona Lisa, a "Henry V", a 55-10 blowout of the Broncos.
 A master work.  My choice for that solo: "Jessica", by the Allman Brothers.
 Three men playing as one, and smooth as a silk prom dress on the floor of a
'67 Mustang.  :)

By the way, here are my top ten favorite solos of all time: you'll find that
some of these guys are in the "Where are they now file".  But I like these
solos for how they make ME feel, not because they're the fastest or the
smoothest or because they did 'point A = point C divided by point B" on some
musical theory chart in a Berkeley classroom.  Music is not calculus.

In no particular order:

Eddie Van Halen- "Jump"
George Lynch- "Burning Like a Flame" (first solo)
Andy Taylor- "Some Like it Hot"
Allman Bros.- "Jessica"
Alex Lifeson- "A Farewell to Kings"
Neil Schon- "Who's Cryin' Now"
Chris Hayes (from Huey Lewis & the News)- "Walking on a Thin Line"
Robert Fripp (on the Roche Sisters' 1st album)- "Hammond Song"
Randy Rhoads- "Crazy Train"
Tom Scholz- "More Than a Feeling"

and on and on..."Sultans of Swing," "Comfortably Numb", "Celebration Day",
"Machine Gun".........................(this was like choosing the ten best
diamonds from a DeBeers catalog...)

Ok.  How long did it take you to scroll through all of that?  Imagine
that every single time you read TNMS.  Oh, that's right, you don't have
to imagine that, because it happens entirely too much, in every single
I'm asking each and every one of you.  Who's the fastest guitarist?  Who
gives a damn?  Who's your favorite Dream Theater keyboardist?  Who gives
a damn?  What's your favorite flavor of jam? I think you all get my
Let's all think about what we have typed before we hit the send button.
Does this have anything to do with Rush, their music, their bandmembers,
stagecrew, production crew?  If the answer to all of these questions is
no, then hit the delete key, not the send key.

Thanks for reading, if you did.  I hope this works.

Rush Mgr. - thanks for allowing me to spew.



From: Edgar 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:59:28 -0800
Subject: Video Yes or No

Does anyone - including our beloved Rush Manager - have a DEFINITIVE
answer as to whether there will or will not be a Video (VHS or DVD)
released?? And does anyone know if they even videotaped or filmed any
shows from TFE?

Just "jonesing" for some more new Rush stuff...


From: James Ball 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:02:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Homework Help?

I am doing a presentation on "Equality" for a Lit. Class, with emphasis on
lyrical content. I am using "The Trees"...of course but can't think of any
other songs to use? Could anyone help me....mabey some of you guys out there
have done a similar project. I could really use some help?

P.S DS is if we had any doubt!!

rush2112 - yes that is my username, kind cool huh!


From: (matt voss)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:48:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Phil Collins drum debate.

Like many of you, I used to think that Neil was untouchable.  As I got
older and wiser, I started listening to Frank Zappa.  Folks, Frank Zappa
only hired the best musicians in the world.  If you think Phil Collins
is/was great, do yourself a favor and pick up Zappa's 1988 live show
"Make a Jazz Noise Here."  Chad Wackerman makes the rhythm method look
like chopsticks!!  


From: "McCauley, Sean (Consultant)" 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:54:44 -0500
Subject: This review is a hoot!

> While searching for CD's on CDNow, I ran across this VH1 review of
> "Different Stages" by Glenn Haight:
> 	Canadian rock band RUSH has had an amazing 25-year career with a
> loyal audience from the beginning. It seems that Different Stages is
> strictly for
> them. The 3-disc live package sounds wonderful, but the question is, who
> asked them to make it?
>         The album, taken from 1997's Test For Echo, is RUSH's fourth live
> album,  but is it necessary? Granted, they're amazing live -- possibly too
> amazing. The  songs sometimes come off as sterile, near-perfect live
> versions of their studio counterparts, with little improv or spontaneity.
> And many of the songs contained here have already shown up on past live
> albums, and haven't
> changed much since then.
>         The third disc -- a supposed lost concert -- taped at the
> Hammersmith Odeon in 1978 during the group's A Farewell To Kings tour,
> will certainly be sought after by hardcore RUSH fans, but seven out of the
> eleven tracks were also performed on their 1976 live album All The World's
> A Stage.
>         Don't get me wrong, a 25-year career definitely deserves a
> milestone, but
>  with the recent Chronicles, Retrospective I and II and now Different
> Stages, it seems like RUSH may be milking it a little bit.
>         Glenn Haight
> So I e-mailed the following message to Mr. Haight:
> Dear Glenn,	
> 	I was just visiting for fun and I stumbled across your
> review of "Different Stages" by Rush. Needless to say, as an avid Rush
> fanatic, I am very disappointed with a few inferences you made. Now I
> don't expect you to know anything because most reviewers don't, but two of
> your statements are completely irresponsible and are a result of your lack
> of knowledge about Rush. The third disk is not a "supposed"  lost concert,
> it is a lost concert. Geddy actually found the tapes in a box in his
> basement and didn't just say that in an effort to make it seem extra
> special. Most bands would do that, but Rush is not most bands. They
> respect their fans intelligence and have no need to stoop to that level to
> sell an album, they do just fine without it. The other remark is in
> reference to Rush "milking it".  How irresponsible of you to make a remark
> like that. Can you name another band that has released albums and toured
> those albums with the same consistency as Rush? (roughly a completely new
> album, all new songs, every 2 years or less for 25 years).True that 1990
> saw the release of "Chronicles" and 1997 marked the release of
> "Retrospective I and II"  and "Different Stages" looks like just another
> "Best of..." . But with just a little bit of research you would have found
> this to be a parallax (you dig?). Mercury/PolyGram, Rush's former record
> company, released the "Chronicles/Retrospective" CDs to "milk" Rush
> themselves so you have got this part completely backwards. As for
> "Different Stages", this album was going to be made after two more studio
> albums (which would total 6 studio albums since their last live release).
> This would have pushed it's release back to at least 2002 or so which
> would be 13 years after their last live album "A Show of Hands". But two
> significant events forced "Different Stages" to be created now and neither
> one was an effort to "milk" their fans' loyalty. Those two events were the
> deaths of Neil Peart's immediate family. An August 1997 car accident
> claimed the life of Neil's only child and was followed by the July 1998
> loss of his wife to cancer. Needless to say, the two more studio albums
> then live album plan went out the window at this point and forced Rush to
> stay the course of their 4 studio then 1 live album history.  Hopefully
> you can do the math here and conclude that your remarks were
> irresponsible. Not that I expect any better from a reviewer. Oh, by the
> way, their fans asked them to make the album. As ridiculous as it may
> seem, there is a band that exists for it's fans and not for their
> eMpTyV/VH1-driven flavor-of-the-month, here today-gone tomorrow, 15
> minutes of fame. And that band is Rush. If you want to charge "milking
> it", write some stories about The Rolling Stones, The Who, Fleetwood Mac,
> The Eagles and/or Pink Floyd. None of these bands have made a decent song
> in 20 years but still find the need to "milk" fan loyalty with ridiculous
> reunion tours and then release live albums for these sham tours. End of
> rant. Thanks for listening.
> Sean McCauley


From: Ed Brogden 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:35:34 -0500
Subject: worlds fastest guitarist

The worlds fastest guitarist is my Uncle Alphonse. All of you must be
uneducated deaf-mutes not to see that (and I don't mean just a FORMAL
education, this includes even you at-home schoolers and HS dropouts - I
now I are a colege alumnis, remember that). This is also displayed by
your inability to realize that is is a damn kazoo that's being played.

And since no one else seems to know, the Fish Islands are a very
exclusive female only string of resorts, near the Virgin Islands, and
very close to the Isle of View.

And it is a little known fact, but I happen to KNOW that Neil is a very
strict Southern Baptist. We should start a new string on this.

Isle of View All!

ed brogden, some dumb uneducated red-neck conservative

PS and the blind man says "Good Morning, ladies"
PPS forget loosening up NP's drum kit, how bout loosening up this group?


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