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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2177

                  Thursday, 25 Feb 1999

Today's Topics:
                    Re: Acoustic Alex 
                  Anthem:  Left or Right
                    Mike Kerns' Troll
NP vs PC continued (isn;t this a lame thread, and I'm continuing
       Re: Seconds out.....round Three [sides live]
              Re- Rush on UK Radio/TV / XTC
                      car commercial
                        Re: rush2k
             Re: You got the wrong guy buddy.
                  Re: Stupid Comparison
                     re: Rush Covers
       Re: Rush at the Warner Theater Wash DC 1978?
                       Winamp Skin
            Rush Fans = Thinking Individuals!
             Dream Theater - Rush Comparison
                 Rush sighting!!!!!!!!!!
                Win free bootleg material
                      Squire VS Lee
                      Re: The Trees
                      Rockline Help!
                       Rush Covers
                 Another Rush Cover Band
                     food, rush style
                 hammered dulcimer again
                      acoustic pedal
                        A few....
            I would like to hear Rush cover...
                     Diego of drums??
                      Re: Maradona 
                 Roll The Bones Interview
                   Phil and basketball
                    Cincinnati Rocks!

From: Slim Jim 
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:29:21 +0000
Subject: Re: Acoustic Alex 

Brett Gentzel wrote:

> I'm reasonably certain that Alex didn't _invent_ the guitar stand that
> he uses.  Steve Howe used one at least as far back as the Relayer
> tour, and probably further back than that (I haven't watched Yessongs
> in ages... did he use one in '73 as well??). 

Alex didn't invent the idea of using a guitar stand, that's for 
sure - but he *did* design (and I believe, manufacture!) the 
particular stand which he used himself.  I seem to remember 
reading that he made an illuminated book stand for Geddy as well,
so he could turn the pages with one hand while eating cornflakes
with the other (or something).



From: Jason Poling 
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:51:05
Subject: Covers

I have a bootleg of a 1974 performance at Electric Ladyland Studios in NYC
which features them playing "Bad Boy."  Geddy introduces it as a song by
the Beatles.


From: "Chaz Mattson" 
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:45:24 PST
Subject: Anthem:  Left or Right

Anthem:  Left or Right (it don't matter if you're black or white!)

As I've read TNMS lately, it's been hypnotic to the point of osmosis!
NODOZE was kept in business I must say...but I think it's officially 
called Post Super Bowl Mordem...but I'm glad the Broncos won...but now 
to pay Dale Carter more than Steve Atware is a crime...Dale is a chump 
and a thug....Steve is a stand-up guy....which leads me to this 

BRAIN:  "Pinky are you pondering what I'm Pondering?"

PINKY:  "Well I dunno Brain, but I think that Carmen Miranda is somehow 
related to you!!!!"

BRAIN:  "Which leads me to why I should lead the planet to world 
justice!!!  (Something the hat never did for Carmen Miranda!!!)"


"Can't we all just get along!!!!!"  (Say it like the squeaky toned 
hillbilly in Petty Coat goes over much better!!!!!!)

You see, the great debate that fills our American lifestyles and 
airwaves day in day out drains me.  The political debates are quite 
frankly NULL & VOID!!!  Sure the President gets off on all charges...but 
he can't fool the best of us...he still committed a crime...but ask OJ 
about that one....I am like a kid with a pot on his head marching around 
the room banging other pots and pans screaming out....(most 
sarcastically I might add)

"We are marching to Bastille Day!!!"
~Bastille Day : RUSH

But then I am brought back to the realization of the way things are...

"It matters not...He is your king!!!"
The Judge responding to William Wallaces denouncing the notion
of King Longshanks being his King : Braveheart  

Yet my soul cries out for justice...but then I'm reminded of these 
circumstances and what "justice" has been interpreted as being over the 
ages...and I am reminded of this...seeing as I DID VOTE FOR KING 

"Behold the high price of Treason!"
The Judge, before the torturing & execution of William Wallace
: Braveheart

Which leads me too Anthem and the everlasting fact that THERE IS NO 
JUSTICE IN THIS WORLD.....what a bunch of greedy idiots with no PR 
skills what so ever!!!

So, I'm still marching the beat of a different...ummmm......


(Just for grins...if you have no sense of humor...go back and learn how 
to get one!!!  And if you do have one you probably work for Anthem or 
voted for Slick Willy!!!!  Or voted for King Lerzist! :) )

Peace RUSH'ians, hope you had a laugh!



Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:12:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Mike Kerns' Troll

> From: Mike Kerns 
> > From: "Patrick Berry" 
> > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:14:23 -0800
> > Subject: This should about do it.

I hope people don't respond to this troll.  I've debated
Mike on various things in the past, and have found it to
be entirely unproductive.  He just makes stuff up as he
goes along, and dismisses that which contradicts him out
of hand. 

I've written a response but decided not to post it here,
except for the one itty bit that's Rush-related:

> "Getting over traditional dogma" is death to a society, however. I for
> one don't see that in Neil's poetry nor his prose.  I see him embracing
> traditional values and other points of view for equal consideration and
> rumination.

Example, please.  Pick "Freewill" for an easy one.

(The rest of my response, including source documentation 
such as references to my last unanswered email to him, can 
be found at  
I highly recommend that anyone considering debating Mike on 
this should read my stuff first for a taste of what they'll 
be getting themselves into.)


From: Pat Lynch 
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 00:37:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: NP vs PC continued (isn;t this a lame thread, and I'm continuing wrote:

>If you want to compare him to Steve Gad or
>Terri Bozio (sp? - I always call him Bozo,so I can't remember what his
>name is
>really like) I could understand.  Sure Collins makes it look easy, that's
>because what he plays is easy.  Now you go out and try playing "Losing
>"Cygnus X", you're gonna find yourself looking 10 times more tense and
>concentrated than Neil looks but sounding 100 times worse (than Phil
>and that's if you're a pretty good drummer. I think someone is taking this too far, you can't compare either
PC or NP to Steve Gadd, mostly because Gadd does not play rock music. And
the facts remain is that though Neil is an awesomely good drummer, he is
not Gadd, he is not Lenny White, Bruford , or anyone of that Genre. Peart
does play some good jazz, but even he only recently got into real hardcore
jazz drumming, these guys have been doing that since the 70's.

Lets not talk out our asses, if we have something intelligent to say, lets
say it. But lets base it on an educated experience, and an opinion based
on that. Just because you do not like a particular music someone has doen
does not discount thier musical ability. And so far all I've seen is
comparisons that don;t even fit. If we are going to compare drumming, lets
looks at contemporaries. The way I see it, Bruford, Palmer, Collins,
Peart are all contemporaries and played *similar* music during that time
period. (say 1975 to the present, although 3 of those drummers go back to
1971 or earlier (in the case of Bruford and Palmer, 1969) and one plays
more jazz now than rock (Bruford)) I personally think Bruford and Palmer
blow NP and PC away, but PC and NP are both awesome in thier own rights.

Lets give credit where credit is due, lets pick on Tommy Lee instead of
Pat Lynch
Systems Administrator					Rush Networking


From: Pat Lynch 
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 00:52:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Seconds out.....round Three [sides live]

>Nope - mainly Chester isn't it?  However, Bruford does play on it, and
>does, a
>tremendous intro to....hang on, what's it called,  Watcher of the Skies
>[I think] ?? 

there were 5 Genesis live albums, (Genesis Live, Seconds Out, Three Sides
Live, and The two "Way We Walk" albums) and Bruford plays mostly
everything on Seconds out, and is also featured in a picture disk
featuring an Interview with genesis that was released just after that. I'm
not sure if Thompson played on that album at all (getting my info from the
"Yes Family Tree" that is included with the "YesYears" boxed set on that
one though, and I've found some of that to be possibly inaccurate).
Thompson did however play 90% of Three Sides Live, and The Way We Walk

sorry for the lack of Rush content, but hellthe fact we can discuss other
prog-rock bands at all is great. My appreciation of Yes and ELP, and
Genesis, and King Crimson and Tull and Floyd all came out of my
appreciation for Rush in the first place.



From: "Andy Golborne" 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:30:14 -0000
Subject: Re- Rush on UK Radio/TV / XTC

Dear all

>mainly from Tommy Vance before he went very metal.
Yep, I remember Tommy Vance used to play Rush quite a bit, which was
fortunate as he was on (national) Radio 1 on a Friday night. He even went
as far as to broadcast Rush concerts such as the Dutch Pink Pop show from
the Hemispheres tour and part of a RTB show from Wembley Arena, both of
which I still have on tape somewhere.

I was local to Liverpool and their rock show fellow, Phil Easton, on Radio
City as it was then, used to play Rush a lot in the eighties.I remember
being very impressed that they managed to get Alex on the phone after
listeners voted him the best guitarist of the year around the time of ESL.

Of course all this was in the days when Rush would get good UK promotion
(see complaint posting about Anthem in NMS #2175) and do strange things
like (gulp) tour over here. Ho hum.

XTC bit: They have a new, long awaited album coming out this week over
here. I was thinking that XTC are another band like Rush who have been
around for a long while, have matured into a bit of a 'cult' band (with a
relatively small but dedicated fan base) and who still come out with albums
of quality and distinction, not relying on past glories. The new one, Apple
Venus (Part1) is "orchustic" ie. electric guitars replaced by, well, an
orchestra. I've heard some of it and it sounds great. Part 2 will be a
'norma'l XTC album out later in the year. Just thought you should know.

BRIT AWARDS: Was that Max Weinberg playing drums for the Eurythmics set at
the end? 

Andy. (Patiently waiting for an official video for Different Stages)


Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:58:45 +0200
Subject: Trees

>I just heard an interesting idea--someone told me that "The Trees" is
>a song dealing with racial tolerance.
Might be....mables as canadians, oaks as americans???? or perhaps it's a
matter of french speaking and english speaking canadians????

>Has anyone else thought this or heard about this?
yep...but who are "the hatchet, axe and saw"?



From: "Douglas White" 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:37:42 -0500
Subject: car commercial

Colin Miller mentioned the Ozzy music in a Montero commercial,
and we figured that it's a guy who was in his teens in the
early 80's that finally made it up the corporate ladder
in the ad world.

So can we expect to see, in 2015, this Chevrolet ad?
 video- Corvette blows the doors off a Mustang on open road
 audio- "Driven", Geddy & Alex jamming away (and some guy
        shouting 'shake it off')

IMNSHO, it beats the hell out of Bob Seger... :-)

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From: "Jack Hesse" 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:31:16 CST
Subject: Re: rush2k

Michael wrote:
>I am throwing a party for those who CAN count, at the end of the
>millennium, Dec 31, 2000.

And for those who know a little about the historical inaccuracies of the 
Christian calendar (the one most of us use), there was (or at least 
should have been) a party for the 2000th anniversary of Jesus Christ's 
birth about 5 years ago.

What's the point of analyzing (I like that you can't spell "analyze" 
without "anal") when the "millenium" is or was?  It will probably be 
pinned down to a date that has very little significance on people's 
lives.  It's pretty much meaningless.  What are we celebrating?  When we 
refer to decades, why do we count 1990 as part of the 90's, despite the 
fact that, for those of us who can count, the last decade of the 20th 
Century shouldn't have started until 1991?

2000 is a nice round number.  I'll drink to that.


Rush content:  Rush r00lz!


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:14:31 -0800
Subject: Re: You got the wrong guy buddy.

Patrick Berry wrote:
> >Patrick Berry said:
> >>On the right end of the range is conservatism, 

> That wasn't me who wrote those lines, it was a right-wing idiot who was
> flaming me in the last issue. 

My humblest apologies--it came through that way here.

I like your assessment of fascism.  LOL!
mike  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
It is the argument of tyrants.
It is the creed of slaves.
 William Pitt
 Speech to the House of Commons, 18 November, 1783


From: "James M." 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:47:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Stupid Comparison

Slim writes: wrote:

> As much as I love Rush and Neil, any comparison to Michael Jordan is
> completely offbase and utterly ridiculous.  Be realistic.  First, Neil's
> abilities in comparison to other drummers don't even begin to compare to
> the way Jordan dominated the sport of basketball.  Jordan is widely
> perceived as the greatest basketball player in history.  Neil holds no 
> such honors.  Second, Jordan's national and international prominence is
> legendary.

Michael Jordan is not an internationally prominent sports star, I
can assure you.  Basketball is essentially a domestic American sport.

> He is probably the most famous athlete in the world right now, outside 
> of perhaps Ali.

I guess you mean "World" as in "World Series".  Sorry, but there
are sports which have huge followings in many nations, all over
the world.  Basketball isn't one of them.

> Most people in America, let alone the world don't even know who Neil
> is.

Most people in the world (that's the 'real' world, not just the
United States) don't know who Michael Jordan is.

> As for basketball being popular in one country, are you kidding?

Well, it may be popular in Canada and Japan to an extent, but
that's really only as a result of American influence.


Actually, outside of N. America, soccer is the largest dominated
sport.(World Infomatic Encyclopedia, 1998). It appears N. Americans are
the ones who like to prop up their sport's figures as immortal heroes.
(Let's all break out into "Nobody's Hero" now;-)

James M.
When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is
stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees,
are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are
withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are
companions of death. The tender and the weak are
companions of life.


From: "James M." 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:06:15 -0500
Subject: re: Rush Covers

Well...not actually a "cover", but more of an "ode". In the bridge just
before the guitar solo of "Between Sun and Moon", they do a bit off of
"Won't Get Fooled Again", by The Who. Ged also mentioned in the latest
Rockline that he likes playing to Who songs once in awhile also. I am
still waiting for a "real" cover album of Rush songs to come out though.
Here is my "wish list".

 Catherine Wheel: "Spirit of Radio" (obviously...already done!!)
 Garbage: "Vital Signs"
 Rage Against the Machine: Complete "2112"
 Placebo: "Tom Sawyer"
 Depeche Mode: "Animate"
 Pearl Jam: "Test for Echo"
 Nine Inch Nails: "Driven"
 54-40 (great Canadian band) "Half the World"
 New Radicals: "Everyday Glory"
 Tragically Hip: "Nobody's Hero"
 The Verve: "Bravado" (seriously...just think of the melody!!)
 Hole: "Double Agent". (actually....their latest tune "Malibu", has a
VERY similar sound as "Totem"...just a bit slowed down....have a listen!!)
 Sarah McLachlan: "Time Stand Still"

Well..thats it for weather...;-)

James M.

When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is
stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees,
are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are
withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are
companions of death. The tender and the weak are
companions of life.


From: William Hall 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:10:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Rush at the Warner Theater Wash DC 1978?

Phil Asked:
"Someone one I work with claims they saw Rush at The Warner Theater in
DC in 1978. Can anyone verify this? I thought they would have been
playing bigger venues during that period...Many thanks to the people
keeping us all in tune with the Greatest band."

Not in '78, so far as I can tell.  They did play there on December 3,
1977 in support of AFTK, opened for City Boy.
William Cary Hall
ICQ# 6956498
Homepage @
Check my Rush/DT tradelists


Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:23:18 EST
Subject: Winamp Skin

Pierre asked: "Does anyone know if there's any rush skin for winamp?  

Since you asked, I am working on a Rush skin I began over two months ago (you
have no idea how much work is required to do one right).  It will include EQ
and Playlist skins, not just the Player. 

If you don't know what a Skin is, it is basically a downloadable interface
which changes the "look" of winamp.  I searched for a Rush skin a couple of
months ago and couldn't find any.

I'm hoping to have it ready by the end of the week, and will let you know. 


From: Michael Allan Leach 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:35:04 +0000
Subject: Rush Fans = Thinking Individuals!

February 22, 1999

To all Rush fans,

What I find truly riveting is that I bring into the NMS a statement
about Rush fans being "thinking" people, and inject some political
statements into the topic, and now, over three (3) months later, we are
still debating the issue.

I told you Rush fans were thinking people.

Thus it is written; so it shall be.

Michael Allan Leach
Deputy Sheriff--Drug Task Force
The Jefferson County Sheriff's Office
Kenneth W. Fortune, Sheriff
Monticello, Florida


From: "Hernandez, Todd V" 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:04:30 -0800
Subject: Dream Theater - Rush Comparison

Okay, I think I have listened to Dream Theater enough that I can make a 
half-way decent assessment (opinion) of them. At first I didn't take to it, 
too complicated, too over the top playing, but as I cranked away I came to 
appreciate the differences. I like the hard, dirty edge to their sound. Good 
production too, I wish Rush could get such good production out of their 
records. It is still true that I think DT overplays, especially Portnoy, but 
man, technically they are awesome. They have some of the best chops i have 
ever heard. Some of the songs are disjointed with too many different riffs 
and nothing holding them together, as well as playing in odd time just to do 
it, not to benefit the song. But as I said, I like it. It just took some 
getting used for what it is. As far as a comparison to Rush, I feel DT is 
in the same "phase" Rush was in around the mid-late seventies, which was 
exploring every time signature and note they could. The emphasis for DT, as 
it was for Rush back then, is playing (read the Presto tour book notes for 
Neil's quotes on this). Rush then evolved to different writing styles with 
more emphasis on song writing itself and using different textures (keys). I 
think DT will start to think sort of the same way as they go along and get 
tired of wringing a thousand notes out of their instruments at break neck 
speed and focus more on the craft of writing a song musically, instead of 
technically. We'll see.

Do you agree?

(*This opinion was based on listening to only two of DT's records - Words and 
Images and the one after it I think. I have not heard the latest.)

Todd Hernandez
Boeing Commercial Aircraft Group, Materiel Division
BFE/SPE Procurement Operations, Planning, and Administration
Tel: (425) 342-4341   M/S 07-61
Fax: (425) 294-4723


From: "Erin Maloney" 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:02:05 PST
Subject: Rush sighting!!!!!!!!!!

Hi everyone,
I just got back from Orlando yesterday, and I am from a really small town
that gets one radio station, and it is country and smooth jazz, :( When I
was in Orlando, I was listening to the classic rock station, and I heard
Limelight. I was shocked, and happy, and then two more songs went by and
Closer to The Heart came on. I almost died. I got back to the hotel and went
upstairs. The next day while going to the beach, I heard Tom Sawyer. (Then
some really dumb song came on. As soon as I switched stations, Spirit of
Radio came on. On the way to the airport, I heard Limelight again. The only
time that I have heard rush on the radio before was about three months ago
in Ithica. (I wasn't around in the height of their career, I am only 16.)
Anyway, it was obviously a great vacation. And to top it off, when I flew
into buffalo and went to Canada to meet a friend at Hardrock in Niagra, I
saw Geddy walking down the street with his son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Just kidding, I had to get that "sighting" part in there.) 


From: Brent North 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:26:23 -0700
Subject: Win free bootleg material

I'm having a contest on my webpage right now with the chance for you to
win free copies of Different Stages and Rush bootleg material of your
choice.  All you need to do to be eligible is visit my page and answer
the trivia questions correctly.  The contest ends on midnight March,

Brent North


From: "Daniel O'Halloran" 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:15:24 -0600
Subject: Drummers...

All this talk of comparing Phil Collins to Neil Peart is a joke! Phil is
an OK drummer, but has not stretched the boundries or expanded the
envelope like Neil has.

Other drummers I think are amazing:

William Calhoun of Living Colour (R.I.P.) - amazing guy with a
relatively small kit
Scott Rockenfeild (sp?) from Queensryche - just an all-around good
Tim "Herb" Alexander from Primus (formerly) - this guy is just amazing -
period. I am not a Primus fan, but...
Danny Carey from Tool - just a damn good player

What doya think???

The Judge


Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 20:51:50 +0000
Subject: Squire VS Lee

Hey there, Hi there, Ho there!

> Here's a new thread:  Chris Squire vs. Geddy Lee!!  My vote is for
>Squire -hands down!!  No contest!! 

I don't know about that.  I mean, Squire's a great  bassist, don't 
get me wrong, but Geddy was always much more adventurous with his 
bass lines.  Also, Geddy never played his bass with a guitar pick, 
and Squire does.  Being a bassist, I can honestly say that you can 
get a lot more accomplished by playing finger-style.  It's the same 
basic principle as classical guitarist playing finger-style--you can 
hit a lot more notes than with a pick.  Now, if you want to find a 
bassist that MIGHT be better than my man Geddy, then look no further 
than John Myung from Dream Theater.  Pick up Dream Theater's new 
video and watch the live version of Metropolis Part 1.  Myung can 
really rock!

"Don't ask me...I'm just improvising"


From: "Jeffrey Robinson" 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:18:06 -0500
Subject: Re: The Trees

First I want to say that Rush Limbaugh is....
Oh wait, wrong newsgroup...
all kidding aside
Mark D. Ehlke said:

>I just heard an interesting idea--someone told me that "The Trees" is
>a song dealing with racial tolerance.

Neil was asked about this in an inverview in the '80's (I heard a copy on
the internet somewhere, I don't remember where).  He said that he was
watching the tv when he came upon a cartoon about trees. He thought it was
funny how the cartoonist had given the trees human qualities, and Neil
decided to do the same thing, only lyrically.

Also, I went out to go to the store here in Jacksonville about 8pm (2-22)
and I had Rock 105 on. First thing I hear is CttH (DS version).  I cranked
up the radio, and made my passengers deaf (althought they sadi that they did
like it)

For anyone who is interested in baseball....
You amy have heard about Roger Clemens being traded to New York from Toronto
(Home of Rush).  Well, his number is changing from 21 to 12 (um...). It's
kinda cool that I can now link my favorite ballplayer with my favorite Band.
Go Yankees!! I Hope Dan Duquette gets lynched....
Happy Drumming,
                            Jeff Robinson


From: Peter Geissler 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:42:14 -0800
Subject: Rockline Help!

Hi All:

I was wondering if there was a transcript of the recent Rockline
appearance or an audio recording available anywhere on the 'web' - if
you know can you please email me privately?

I know this may have been addressed already, and I apologize if I've
overlooked an easy answer.

Thank you very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very much.



From: Ike Pigott 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:03:11 -0600
Subject: Rush Covers


Kudos to David Ayers....  I had almost forgotten how much "Gaudi" by the
Alan Parsons Project just ROCKS!

Ok, so it doesn't "rock", technically...  but it is full of some cool

"The winds have changed, the storm is over..."

Ike Pigott
"just a fool on television getting paid to play the fool."


From: Brian 
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:08:05 -0500
Subject: Another Rush Cover Band

 - There's gonna be another cover band playing here in NJ on this
Saturday, 26 Feb. Power Windows at The Birch Hill following Soft Parade
(Doors tribute band, if I'm not mistaken). The only things that suck are
1.) They go on around Midnight and 2.) Eve 6 is playing Friday night,
gotta save my cash, kinda pricey on drinks.




ICQ# 20498943


From: "Michael Z. Williamson" 
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:07:59 -0800
Subject: food, rush style asked:
>PS: (this is not specifically Rush-related) does anyone know of 
>restaurants in Toronto that are vegetarian or vegetarian-friendly?

I know of several that serve vegetarians for breakfast, lunch, and
dinner.  ;)  And 4 out of 5 carnivores prefer vegetarians for lunch.

Seriously though, does anyone know if Geddy observes the Kosher laws? 
To what degree?  I've heard him mention ballpark hotdogs, which
certainly are NOT Kosher.

Anyone in the military seen the new Kosher/vegetarian/Halal MRE's?  Boy,
did you get screwed on that deal.
mike  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space


From: said
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:13:56 -0800
Subject: hammered dulcimer again

>>That's a hammered dulcimer, played by Neil.  Sounds a bit like 
>>piano--courses of three strings hit with a mallet.
>Is this true?  If so, I most certainly need my ears de-waxing!  
>Seriously, is this not a piano??  Or, maybe a KAT triggering, 
>surely not?

Really.  See the album credits.  And I do several dozen historical
re-enactments a year; I know a hammer dulcimer when I hear one.  It
sounds like a piano--malleted strings.  But the mallets are swung by
hand, not a sprung key.  The live version of resist sounds like a synth.

If you ever get a chance to see a good HD or cymbalom player, do so. 
Michael Masley in Berkeley, CA is STAGGERING.  He sounds like an entire
mike  Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space


From: "McDow Mobile" 
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:41:24 -0500
Subject: acoustic pedal

ScottM inquired:

>1)  I understand that he INVENTED the guitar stand that he uses live=20
>when he does songs like "Closer to the Heart."  You know, the one that=20
>holds his Ovation while his PRS or whatever is strapped below it.  Is = this=20
>true?  2) I also heard a rumor that he played some part in the = development=20
>of the pedal (I think it's a pedal) thatmakes his electric guitar sound very=20
>much like an acoustic.   He used it on such tunes as "Driven."

>answer to #1 is yes.

>answer to #2 is no. He asked the folks at PRS to equip his guitar(s) = >with
>an acoustic pickup. All Al has to do is flip a switch on the body of the = PRS.
>This was a special thing he worked out with PRS. This info was from an
>interview with Alex in a recent acoustic guitar mag, and an interview >= with
>Paul Reed Smith himself.=20


Hey scoots...I know what it says in the acoustic guitar mag, but in the 
EQ mag that interviews our guys it mentions that A) He uses the Tom 
SHolz acoustic guitar simulator and B)In "Driven" and especially 
"Nobody's Hero" he is playing a Les Paul......and NOT a PRS...
This is not a dig or a flame, but you seem to know a bit about it so I 
thought maybe you might know more about this too...


From: Dennis Benjamin 
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:21:34
Subject: A few....

I could of swore I heard an interview where Geddy described "The Omega
Concern" as a computer program that determined the order of songs on thier
albums. I know that Alex invented a few things (including a stand to hold
Neil's books that he read). Anyways, just putting in my two cents.

I have a recording of Rush doing a cover of The Beatles song "Badboy" (I
think that is the name (I'll have to dig it up again).) or

Are those people having sex, or are they working out??????? 


From: Dom Kallas 
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 02:50:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: I would like to hear Rush cover...

>... "Achilles' Last Stand" by Led Zeppelin.  

There are two reasons:
1. There is _great_ instrumental and percussion work on that song.  This
is the one song that I wish Rush came up with.

2. I can not help but think of Geddy when Robert Plant does his vocal
noodlings toward the end of the song.  

					Electronically Yours,

People always turn away from the Eyes of A Stranger
Afraid to know what lies behind the stare
						"Eyes of A Stranger"


From: "Grauw, de H.(BNS SU NO)" 
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:43:00 +0100
Subject:  Jordan

Slim Jim wrote:
>Michael Jordan is not an internationally prominent sports star, I
>can assure you.  Basketball is essentially a domestic American sport.

A guy is an internationally prominent sports star in my book if his
retirement announcement is featured on the evening news in different
countries. It was (Holland, Germany, Belgium, even  the UK) and he is.

I'm sure the guy who's in charge of international merchandising of the NBA
got a hearty chuckle out of your assertion that basketball is a domestic US
sport. Now as for baseball....

Go Rik Smits!

ORC: Any news what's going on? Any Alex sightings in TO? 


From: Slim Jim 
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:16:34 +0000
Subject: domestic????

Hi Rush-fans!
First posting and unfortunately not really Rush-related....I apologize!!!

>> As much as I love Rush and Neil, any comparison to Michael Jordan is
>> completely offbase and utterly ridiculous.  Be realistic.  First, Neil's
> >abilities in comparison to other drummers don't even begin to compare to
> >the way Jordan dominated the sport of basketball.  Jordan is widely
> >perceived as the greatest basketball player in history.  Neil holds no
> >such honors.  Second, Jordan's national and international prominence is
> >legendary. 

>Michael Jordan is not an internationally prominent sports star, I 
>can assure you.  Basketball is essentially a domestic American sport.

1., Michael Jordan IS an internationally prominent sport star.
2., Basketball IS NOT essentially a domestic American sport. -> See Kornel 
David in Chicago Bulls - 
what do you think about _his_ presence in an NBA-team?

Greetings from Hungary
Zsolt Galantai 


From: Neil Bonfield 
Date: 23 Feb 1999 04:27:41 -0500
Subject: Diego of drums??

"Federico ABRAHAM"  wrote:

>Hello Rushians, first post from here.
>To me, Neil Peart is the Diego Maradona of drums (and if you guys don't
>have the idea of who is he, IMHO he's the best soccer player ever).
>So, once again, IMHO, to me Neil is the best drummer ever.
>Rush on !

Sorry, Federico, but I do not see Neil Peart as a drugged-up,
alcoholic cheat!

Misheard lyric from Animate: 'Man must build a porch - less to defend'...

Neil Bonfield


From: Slim Jim 
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:32:49 +0100
Subject: Re: Maradona 

"Federico ABRAHAM" wrote:
> Hello Rushians, first post from here.
> To me, Neil Peart is the Diego Maradona of drums (and if you guys don't
> have the idea of who is he, IMHO he's the best soccer player ever).
> So, once again, IMHO, to me Neil is the best drummer ever.
> Rush on !

Good choice - drumming is an activity which you perform with your 



From: Eddie DelGaudio 
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:33:31 -0500
Subject: Roll The Bones Interview

I was recently listening to one of my old RUSH tapes. ( which I often do )
The tape was from the Roll The Bones radio release.  It features excellent 
commentary from Alex & Geddy about the record, etc.  As the song HERESY is 
ending, the radio host comments to Geddy about how he looked as if Geddy was 
enjoying listening to the track.  Geddy's reply was, "I haven't heard the 
song in a while, and it was great to just put on the headphones, closee my 
eyes, and get lost in the music" That just made me feel so good, and affirmed 
all those years of listening and enjoying RUSH & their music in the same 
way.  I'm sure many of you feel and have done the same.


"You can do alot in a lifetime.  If you don't burnout too fast" NP


Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:36:59 -0500
Subject: Phil and basketball

Hate to keep this debate going, but I can't ignore something totaly
incorrect stated as fact. Slim Jim had this to say about basketball...


I guess you mean "World" as in "World Series".  Sorry, but there
are sports which have huge followings in many nations, all over
the world.  Basketball isn't one of them.

Well, it may be popular in Canada and Japan to an extent, but
that's really only as a result of American influence.



Then maybe you can explain why American college basketball players not
drafted into the NBA (that's National Basketball Association) get paid good
money to play in the Italian and Spanish leagues. And why are so many
American college players from eastern Europe and Africa?
While it may not be as popular as football (that's soccer, not American
football), claiming basketball doesn't have an international following is,
well, wrong. Let's hope it's never as popular as football, and that's from
a rabid basketball fan, who happens to like football just a bit more.

While I'm at it, John Caufield wrote about Phil Collins...


 FYI - Phil Collins has also been the subject of a rather long-winded
     (and at times, rather heated!) thread on the Led Zeppelin mailing
     list.  What began as comments on Phil's talents (or lack thereof)
     during Zep's Live Aid reunion, digressed into comparisons between his
     and John Bonham's styles (much like has been going on in TNMS in the
     Peart vs. Collins debates).


First of all, the guys asked Phil if he would play with them, then stuck
him next to Tony Thompson. Never mentioned there'd be another drummer. Just
put him there. Tony acted like he was the only drummer, not giving Phil
room to play. So, after a while, Phil just laid back.
Now did you catch his set with Eric Clapton? I bet Tony Thompson did.



From: "Terri Doerr" 
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:39:36 -0500
Subject: Cincinnati Rocks!

To respond to Steve Eads,
Yes!  Other Cincinnatians do recieve TMNS!
I have been a Rush fan since the age of 11 (my brother was forced to take 
me to a concert back in '78-I have been hooked ever since!).  The great 
thing is, my 8 year old son loves Rush as much as I do.  Are there other 
parents out there who have raised their children while listening to Rush? 
 I'd be interested to know!
"I will choose a path less clear.  I will choose freewill!"

Terri Doerr


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