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         The National Midnight Star, Number 2179

                  Tuesday, 02 Mar 1999

Today's Topics:
              Madonna Ripping off Rush ????
                       Fat Boy Slim
                      NP = Maradona
                      Testdrive boot
Re: Phil & Live Aid (Music content, but no mention of Rush)
                      Name that tune
                      Best Bassists
                       (no subject)
     Rush Kids - Baseball a US Sport? - Garth Brooks
                  Re: Enough Already!! 
     Re: 02/26/99 - The National Midnight Star #2178
                 Revolver Films, part II
             Rush Sightings, St. Louis Arena
              Rush Sighting on Pay Per View
     Re: 02/25/99 - The National Midnight Star #2177
                        Niel Vs...
                     soccer & Rush...
      Re: sports/drumming/Scholz/trees/ringing tones
               Drummers | Trolling | Choice
                    RE:  Allan Weinrib
                    RE: Intro to Rush
                       Steve Longo?
         Alex's Omega Concern Lighted music stand
                    Re: Intro to Rush
               The what,where,when,and how
                    re: Intro to Rush
               another unheard Rush(?) song
            Who drummed what on "Seconds Out"
               Politically Incorrect Script
                        DS poster
still yet more random thoughts (or what happens when you try to force a 

From: lerxst 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 02:53:42 -0500
Subject: Madonna Ripping off Rush ????

  This was on MTV website.I don't know what song they're talking about?

Lately, portions of Madonna's "Ray Of Light" have also turned up in its
show , and Pearl Jam talked with MTV News recently
about how the song had worked its way into the band's live set.

"Ed has been singing 'Ray of Light,'" said
guitarist Stone Gossard, "and he's pretty into that song...I think it's
a great song."

"It reminds me of some old Rush song
though," added bassist Jeff Ament, "like the chorus and the melody, you know?"

"I can't believe Madonna is ripping-off Rush," Gossard said, "but [the cover 
songs have] been fun. The best part has been to be able to play different
songs off different records every night -- that's the fun of having
five records.


Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 08:35:14 GMT0BST
Subject: Fat Boy Slim

Er..., I should just like to apologise for the rantings of my 
compatriot Slim, who appears not to know the difference between 
basketball and baseball (yes, I know Jordan played some baseball 
too).  Most of the kids at my younger brothers' school could tell you 
who Michael Jordan is and probably Dennis Rodman.  It is a generation 
thing, but Slim is right that as far as most of us are concerned, the 
basketball comparisons are pretty arcane, and his point about the 
world series is correct - no one in Europe gives a monkeys.



From: "Craig Welton" 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 08:39:22 -0500
Subject: NP = Maradona

>To me, Neil Peart is the Diego Maradona of drums (and if you guys don't
> have the idea of who is he, IMHO he's the best soccer player ever).

Ouch, I bet our English TNMS contributors will have a hard time with =
that comment.  To shed some light, Maradonna (from Argentina) is =
infamous for "single handedly" beating England in the 1986 Mexico World =
Cup (I believe quarter finals) by using his hand to deflect the ball =
past Peter Shilton for the winning goal.

    I was looking through the documentation for a PC game I have called =
Starcraft from Blizzard software; in their "thanks" section they list =
RUSH ---- nice!


BTW - I'm toying with the idea of getting a Geddy Lee Fender Jazz.  Can =
any experienced bassists tell me how it feels/sounds?  email privately.


From: "JOHN          BARTHE" 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 05:49:26 -0000
Subject: Testdrive boot

Has anyone heard the 'Testdrive' boot  recorded at Arco arena in =
Sacramento in '96?
If so, what is the quality?  Thanks.


P.S. 'Gaudi' by the Alan Parsons Project is a cool CD.  I also believe =
that AP was the producer for Dark Side of the Moon...

John J. Barthe
phone: 916-782-3474


Date: Fri, 26 Feb 99 10:58:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Phil & Live Aid (Music content, but no mention of Rush)

     Gary recently posted in TNMS #2177:
     "While I'm at it, John Caufield wrote about Phil Collins..."
     -> First off, my name is spelled "Caulfeild".  Thanks. :)
     My original post in an earlier TNMS:
      FYI - Phil Collins has also been the subject of a rather long-winded
     (and at times, rather heated!) thread on the Led Zeppelin mailing 
     list.  What began as comments on Phil's talents (or lack thereof)     
     during Zep's Live Aid reunion, digressed into comparisons between his 
     and John Bonham's styles (much like has been going on in TNMS in the 
     Peart vs. Collins debates).
     Gary's reply in TNMS# 2177:
     "First of all, the guys asked Phil if he would play with them, then 
     stuck him next to Tony Thompson. Never mentioned there'd be another 
     drummer. Just put him there. Tony acted like he was the only drummer, 
     not giving Phil room to play. So, after a while, Phil just laid back.
     Now did you catch his set with Eric Clapton? I bet Tony Thompson did."
     -> Hey Gary, I wasn't trying to express an opinion one way or the 
     other on Phil's performance with Zep.  I was just summarizing the 
     discussion on the Zep list.
     I realize that Robert Plant had asked Collins if he'd drum for them 
     (on rather short notice too), but regardless of the circumstances, 
     history now shows that Zep's reunion at Live Aid was severely lacking 
     in good drumming.  The debate on the Zep mailing list was discussing 
     this, but at times, it got into personal attacks on Phil.  I have 
     nothing against Phil Collins, or his contributions to music at large, 
     but I do think he underestimated the complexity of Zep's music when he 
     agreed to help out at Zep's Live Aid reunion.  Messing up on "Whole 
     Lotta Love" and a few slips during "Stairway" doesn't indicate to me 
     that Phil was "laying back". (shrug)
     Tony Thompson, on the other hand, was asked to play because Plant and 
     Jimmy Page liked his work with Power Station, and to his credit, Tony 
     found the time to rehearse with the band (albeit only a few hours 
     before they hit the stage) - unlike Phil who went on without prior 
     As for Phil's set with Clapton, it doesn't stand out in my memory like 
     Zep's performance.  Zep was the reason I was basically tuned in to 
     Live Aid that day back in '85 (well, Zep and Madonna's pointy 
     brassiere).  I'd have to dig up my tapes. :)
     Obligatory Rush content: Wouldn't it have been cool to see Rush 
     perform at Live Aid?  The day was dominated by 80's synth-pop artists; 
     it would've been refreshing to hear our boys play a set for the cause. 
      Perhaps they could've played the "Fear" trilogy or something?  I 
     guess neither Geddy, Alex or Neil kept in touch with Bob Geldof, or 
     else Geldof & Co. didn't care for The Boys' brand of music.


From: Neil Wyatt 
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:00:37 +0000
Subject: Name that tune

I have an Ericsson GH688 mobile phone. By going into the Edit Melody
function and keying in 8, 9, 7, 8, 7, 6, 5, 3 and then repeating the
sequence (excluding pauses and extended notes - see instruction manual)
you get the guitar intro to Closer to the Heart as a ring tone!

Can anyone better this?
Navan Man.

If only you had a Nokia 9000 series GSM phone or Nokia 6110 series GSM
phone or Nokia 8110 series GSM phone or a Nokia 8810 series GSM
phone.... I'd send you a short message containing a ringing tone
"Freewill" or "YYZ", which you could instantly use as a ringing
tone... so go sell your Ericsson and get yourself a schmart phone ;0)


p.s. much nicer to hear a WAV-file played when somebody calls... of
course, the WAV is a certain solo part of a certain song on RTB...
wish they'd call me more often! *grin*


From: Christopher Saroka 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:17:48 -0500
Subject: Best Bassists

Hello all,

I haven't read through a NMS in a couple of years, but I've started
again to see what is goin down.

And I noticed a "Chris Squire vs. Geddy Lee" thread.  Well, I'm going to
give in give my opinion.

Not only are there guys out there who MAY be better than Geddy, there
are a ton of them.  Don't get me wrong.  Geddy is certainly my
favorite.  His style is awesome.  I'd listen to him before anyone
else...however.  There are many cool guys out there that I have been
exposed to.  And there are hundreds more that are probably just as good
or better.

Some excellent bassists:  Victor Wooten.  The bassist for Bela Fleck and
the Flecktones...absolutly unbelievable, maybe the best I've ever
heard.  He has a few solo albums out there, too.  I've had the
priveledge to see him

Michael Manring.  This guy rocks.  His only rock album, "Thonk," is so
damn cool.  He's a jazz bassist at heart, however.  He does some real
nutty things, but is incredibly musical.

Jaco.  Jaco Pastorius.  Not only is he phenominal (jazz) but he's an
innovator of a lot fo bass techniques you hear today.

Those are just three guys.  But each need to be mentioned when talking
about a "Best Bassist" list.

Email me personally with any comments...



From: Christopher Saroka 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:37:12 -0500
Subject: (no subject)

Wow, am I embarrassed at the fact I didn't spell check my last post.


And I just need to express my love of I Mother Earth, King's X, and

Wake me up when the day is late so I can watch the sunset and go back to


Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:56:52 EST
Subject: Rush Kids - Baseball a US Sport? - Garth Brooks

Terri Doer asked: "Are there other parents out there who have raised their
children while listening to Rush?"

My 2.5 year old daughter's favorite band is prounonced "Brush" :)  and for
awhile whenever she heard rock music would scream out "BRUSH DADDY!".
Although she can now discern Rush from other bands, and is quick to scream out
BRUSH when she hears Ged's voice.  Her favorite song from DS is "Show Don't

Also, Hans implied baseball is strictly a domestic U.S. sport.  Well don't
tell Geddy that, we like to keep him fooled into thinking its ok for Canadians
to enjoy the sport, not to mention a few million Japanese, and those in South
and Central America. <-- "for best results"

P.S. Hey Rush MGR., sorry about the Padre's pitiful season this year (no wait,
it hasn't happened yet, has it), but with all the trades, and Garth Brooks
playing for the farm club, he'll be singing about being low places alright!


From: James Gibbon 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:00:46 +0100
Subject: Re: Enough Already!! 

> Please Rushians,
> No more Neil is the Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, Terrell Davis, Roger
> Clemens, Miguel Indurain, Eric Cantona, Michael Schumacher, Jeff Gordan,
> Max Biaggi, Tommi Makinen, Mark O'Meara, Keith Emerson,

He's the Stephen Hendry of the drums.  But he uses two sticks.


From: "Miers, Dan" 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:05:15 -0600
Subject: KAR

To General Chase:

Signal Transmitted, Message Received

Reply:  No Soap, Radio.


PS - So how ya' been?  :o)

   [ Um, albatross.                                          : rush-mgr ]


From: Dennis Pupello II 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:28:33 -0500
Subject: Re: 02/26/99 - The National Midnight Star #2178

At 12:58 PM 2/26/99 -0800, you wrote:

>"Bad Boy was originally by Larry Williams.  It was a cover that the Beatles
>recorded for one of their American "filler" albums BEATLES VI.  It is now
>found only on the Past Masters Vol. I disc.  I wonder if Geddy & the boys
>even knew that it wasn't really a Beatles song.   - RJMADSEN

You mean someone did Nessun Dorma before Michael Bolton?!?

On a completely different note, my sister, who's a NY theater actress, 
called me from the Big Apple with a most unusual Rush sighting.  Maybe it's 
been posted already.

She was watching Regis & Kathie Lee of all things, and during an intro for 
a makeover segment called "2000" or something, they played Time Stand 
Still.  Haha talk about incongruous.


Dennis Pupello II
Webmaster/Support Technician
City of Brooksville, Florida
email: work:
(352) 544-5435 Ext. 126


From: Richard Buchan 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:35:41 -0800
Subject: Revolver Films, part II

Derek Watson posted about Ged's dad Allan Weinrib working for Revolver
Films in Toronto.

Anyway... if you go a little further into the website you will find a
write up of Andrew MacNaughtan, the exclusive photographer for Rush.
Apparently, Andrew works for Revolver also.  Rush is mentioned in the
piece, however, there is no cross-reference to Allan.

Anaheim, CA

To: MEG, rush-mgr
[EYES ONLY!] everyone else look away :)

I have tried to reach you via the usual email address but it keeps
getting bounced.  I need to discuss getting an old shoe back that you
borrowed awhile back.  Can you email me please?  Thanks... RCB


Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:56:30 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Rush Sightings, St. Louis Arena

Greetings fellow Rushers! Long time reader first time poster. This is mainly 
for your interest. By the time you read this post it will probably be 
history. But due to civic progress, another Landmark in our great city of 
St. Louis, will be /is now history. Just great memories of concerts gone by. 
As of 520pm central time the St. Louis Arena will have been imploded. I saw 
Rush there about 4 times before they started playing Riverport Amphitheatre. 
For anyone interested you probably can catch it on CNN or surf the web at
(the local newspaper)and check out some info on it. The local radio station 
Kshe-95 has shirts for the event for sale. it has the Arena on the front, (a 
photo from b-4 the tornado, for those who know). And on the back has all the 
roch shows that played there from '71-'94. You can find them at 
[] if you have real audio they have a great classics show from 
8-12 c/t on sunday mornings. Got to go, the Arena will be missed but not 
forgoten. Kinda reminds me of "Trees", see ya.... Earl.

			"Goodnight Everyone, Drive Carefully"
				St. Louis Arena 1924-1999


From: "Wendy M. Runnels" 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:13:20 -0800
Subject: Rush Sighting on Pay Per View

I just read the last two issues, and I can't believe no one else has posted
on this yet.  Bet ya 5 bucks, there's 3 other posts like mine in this
issue.  Anyway, I was watching the "Rock and Rockets" concert on pay per
view the other night, they had six or seven different groups/artists one of
which was Better than Ezra, filmed in Orlando Florida.  Better than Ezra
was at a pause in their performance of "Rosalita" when the lead
guitarist/singer kicked into "Limelight".  The band started to join in when
he stopped them and started the guitar intro to "Spirit of the Radio".  The
crowd went nuts.  They only played a few seconds of each song then went
back into "Rosalita".  To be honest, he kind of slaughtered the SOR part,
but I thought it was pretty damn cool anyway.  

"Atmospeheric disturbance, the feverish flux, of human interface and


From: (Jj W)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:08:20 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: 02/25/99 - The National Midnight Star #2177

does anyone know if COUNTDOWN was an official NASA shuttle song??? 


From: "Lemieux" 
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:11:49 -0500
Subject: Niel Vs...

I have noticed alot of stuff about Neil vs Phil Collins and other drummers.
In my humble opinion, Neil is one of the best ever.  As for other drummers,
here's some that I think are excellent:

Roger Taylor - Queen, The Cross
Cozy Powell - The Brian May Band
Keith Moon - The Who

Anyway, bye for now


From: Joe Lynch 
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:33:13 -0800
Subject: soccer & Rush...

>>Hello Rushians, first post from here.
>>To me, Neil Peart is the Diego Maradona of drums (and if you guys don't
>>have the idea of who is he, IMHO he's the best soccer player ever).
>>So, once again, IMHO, to me Neil is the best drummer ever.
>>Rush on !
>Sorry, Federico, but I do not see Neil Peart as a drugged-up,
>alcoholic cheat!

This had me laughing out loud. You gotta love a sport where a country is
still bitter over a play that happened 13 years ago. (For the NBA fans
listening: "The Hand of God" goal where in the '86 World Cup for
Argentina Diego Maradona cheated and knocked in the winning goal with
his hand against England)

I have to agree. Neil is much more of a team player than Maradona ever
was. I have to go with the Kaiser, Franz Beckenbauer, the revolutionary
sweeper who controlled Germany's defense and showed the world that
fullbacks can go past the halfway line, as a good match for Neil. He
held his role but would move up and take over the game at key moments.

How about Alex? Definitely a forward, but I'm having a hard time coming
up with someone with his joy of performing and sense of humor. Maybe
Chris Waddle? Great moves, some mind-blowing shots, just forget about
Italy '90...


From: Bravado 
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:47:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: sports/drumming/Scholz/trees/ringing tones

Hello out there!

>                      Enough Already!!

Yes, rank it by amount of players: soccer. Rank it by amount of annual
spectators: soccer. Rank it by annual TV spectators: Formula One. Rank
it by mailing list subscribers: The National Midnight Star. *grin*

Maybe we should keep this in private from here on... don't want to
make Rush-mgr too mad at us, eh? ;0)

>Geddy Lee vs Chris Squire
>Re: Drummers

Please quit all that or I'll start comparing Collins, Peart, Lee, et
al to our local drummer and bassist "heroes" of whom you have
absolutely no idea how good they are... would be as boring for you to
read my postings as it is for me to read your postings... 

>Sholz guitar emulator thingy

You must be referring to Monsieur Tom Scholz (note the spelling), the
great talent behind a (one-man-)band called Boston? And the device
must be "Rockman", right?

Oh, Rush content? Hmmm... maybe I should replace the Boston CD with a
Rush CD first...

>the trees

Either canucks vs yanks, your country vs your stoopid neigboring
country, men vs women, kids vs parents, gay people vs. hetero people,
fat people vs skinny people, white folks vs black folks (slavery), US
army vs indians, turkish people vs kurdish people, poor people vs rich
sonnawabitches, basketball lovers vs soccer fans, any minority group
vs a majority group, you name it...

>rush phone tones is the place to go and listen to and
to compose your own ringing tone. Too bad you have to be roaming in
Finland and your phone has to be a Nokia 6110, 6150, 8110i, 8810 phone
(or any Nokia 9xxx Communicator series phone anywhere in the world;
this one requires only some help from someone living/roaming in
Finland) in order to use the tones you or someone else created and
added to those pages.... The other drawback for you must be the
jibberish language on those pages ;0) English pages are not available
for the ringing tone composer part. Here's where you can test the tone

I've seen at least 2 versions of YYZ on those pages. Lousy ones.
Mine's better ;0) Not that I've composed it myself...

Im not so talented when it comes to music (read: no can undestand them
notes :0), but if someone is more talented and wants to create a Rush
ringing tone and use it as a ringing tone in his/her cell phone, I'd
be glad to help: I can fetch any tone from those pages and forward it
as a short message to your GSM 900 Mhz phone or in case you have a
Nokia 9000 Communicator for 1900 (US) or 1800 (UK, Germany, Oz, etc.)
MHz I can send the tone via email for you to download into your

Ok, enough of this commercial kinda talk, even tho I have nothing to
do with Nokia my nose is big and I sure am ugly! ;0)



From: Ashim 
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:06:56 +0600
Subject: Drummers | Trolling | Choice

The judge said:

YESS!! He is totally amazing... and totally baffling.


Not technically I suppose, but aesthetically - YESS!! I agree.

Has anyone heard Todd Trainer from Steve Albini's new band Shellac? I
haven't heard him, but many say he's really great!

Mike Kerns' troll cannot, by any stretch of the word, be called 'thinking'.
I cannot believe a Rush fan would speak this way -- then again, I may be
naive. I hope that the Rush-mgr will in the future banish such foulness
>from the list.

And Mr Nickb, you're alright!! I'm with you - on this, at least. But I
think you might be wasting your time slugging it out on TNMS. Personally, I
think life is elsewhere - life is also short. No? :-) And living life on a
mailing-list, as some are prone to do, itself seems to be an act of cynicism.


"If you choose not to decide you still haven't made a choice" 

Is it haven't or have?



From: "Derek Watson" 
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:30:43 +0000
Subject: RE:  Allan Weinrib

>I'm pretty sure everybody remembers Allan Weinrib getting a mention for
>doing the video footage for the TFE tour in the tourbook
>I came across, and ultimately
> (because the homepage doesn't work
>proplerly), and found out that Ged's dad is a music video executive producer
>of Revolver Films in Toronto.

Just a little correction:

It's Ged's brother....not his dad.  Sadly, Geddy's dad passed away 
when Geddy was very young.



From: "Will Holt" 
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:04:44 -0500

I was talking with my Dad about Animate.  He is a Jungian analyst so I =
was asking him if this is a love song.  He said that it could be if one =
is referring to the self-love a man can have for his feminine side.  =
This song isn't about the love between two people, however.

There are three songs from PeW on DS and they are all on Disc 2.  That =
is a lot!  It is equal to the number of songs from PeW on E...SL!
It is surprising to me that Half The World doesn't appear on DS.  =
Especially after Geddy had said this was one of his favorites off t4e.  =
Another surprise is the fact that Witch Hunt is on ASoH.  Where did this =
one come from?
I had a comment with regard to the discussion of the HEY! shouts during =
2112: Overture.  For the Signals tour, they actually paused the music =
each time so that the crowd shouting HEY! was the only thing heard.  I =
believe this the first time that the crowd interaction was emphasized =
this much by the band.



From: "Chris Dodd" 
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 00:32:27 -0500
Subject: RE: Intro to Rush

Ok...I'll bite,

Seventh grade, many moons ago, on the rebound from Kiss "Dynasty" (the last
Kiss album I was to buy), a good friend and respected music critic for the
time (7th grade, remember) would always brag about this band, "Rush." So to
get his goat, I would always respond, "Rush sucks." Finally one day in art
class, while working on reproducing album covers as a special assignment
(mine was Steve Winwood "Arc of a Diver" - matching that colour was a
bitch!), my friend had had enough. So he told me to supply him with a tape
and he would record 2 songs for me, assured I would love them. The next day
found him with a Memorex 60 minute blank (in a funny, hinged 2-piece case
with white stops for the rollers) in which to record this "miracle music."
The day after, I'm sitting at home with my jaw on the floor as TS and SotR
roar thru my JC Penny stereo. Needless to say, a goat died that day.

Take care,
THE Bikeman


Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:58:07 EST
Subject: Steve Longo?

Steve Longo, I've lost your email address, so please drop me a line!



From: "christopher dannhoff" 
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:03:09 CST
Subject: Alex's Omega Concern Lighted music stand

I don't know if a transcript exists, but in Ged's fall of 1987 Rockline 
appearance he did mention that Alex had invented seveal items including 
a backlit music stand for Geddy. Somebody had asked what the Omega 
Concern was, and Geddy gave the answer that it was what Alex's 
inventions became named. 

Meanwhile, I'll look around for a transcript.


P.S. - who or what caused the NMS message board to be disabled? I 
haven't been online for awhile, so I guess I missed something.

   [ As in everything, a few rotten apples spoil it for all. If you want
     back in, mail to                             : rush-mgr ]


From: "Joseph Ornelas" 
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:20:23 -0800
Subject: Re: Intro to Rush

>What was YOUR introduction to Rush? Who, what, where, when, and how?

This kid in my algebra 2 class in high school (is there an Andrew from Helix
High on this mailing list?  Andrew from Helix?) lent me what I now think to be a
bootleg of some sort, because it featured a live version of Roll the Bones (as
we know, not released officially until DS).  It was in 11th grade, so three...
almost four years ago.  He also had with him a printout of all of the lyrics,
which seem to have been straight from the NMS webpage, though I could be wrong
(how long has the NMS page been around, anyway?).  What caught my interest with
Rush was the clarity of the music itself, it wasn't muddy and indistinct, but
crisp and definite. I was also drawn in by the lyrics and the clarity with which
Ged sings them.  I bought a few albums.  Then a few more.  Then all of them, and
the rest is history.

Joseph Ornelas

Please, consider the following webpage:
Bill Nye the Science Guy Web Page of Science


From: (Steve Eads)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:52:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: The what,where,when,and how

To the guy who was interested in how people became Rush fans, here is my
story, in short of course! Basically, in 1979, my older brother had
borrowed a copy of "2112" from a friend of his, and I listened to it out
of curiosity.( I was ten years old at the time.) I can honestly say that
>from the first time I heard Rush, I instantly liked them a lot! The next
year I was fortunate enough to see them in concert here in Cincinnati,
and that was it! From that point on, I had to get my hands on every Rush
album available!  Later!     Steve Eads


From: Kevin Haines 
Date: Mon,  1 Mar 1999 09:57:59 +1030 (CST)
Subject: re: Intro to Rush

John Richardson  wrote:
> What was YOUR introduction to Rush? Who, what, where, when, and how?

I had been thinking about suggesting this exact thread! Good one John!

When : 1984
Where: New Zealand
Album: GUP
How  : I was ~15 at the time, and was starting to pick up on the
       musical tastes of several American neighbours. The fact that
       several rather cute females were involved had nothing to do
       with it :^)
       After hearing GUP, I rapidly obtained Signals, PW, MP, 2112,
       and ESL.

As a sidenote, the young ladies who introduced me to the joys
of Rush no longer listen to Rush themselves.

Humming your favourite song, You know I've hated that
song for so long - Neil Peart


From: z z z 
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:53:32 -0600
Subject: another unheard Rush(?) song

i'm sure i'll sound stupid here, but has anyone ever heard the song that
has the chorus

Fight the good fight every moment,
Every minute, every day

it sounds so much like geddy, it's downright ridiculous, please help

"If at first you don't succeed, it's probably someone else's fault."
Rush?  They suck.  Different Stages?  Yeah, that rocks!  Rush did that? 
No way!


Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:52:05 EST
Subject: Who drummed what on "Seconds Out"

there were 5 Genesis live albums, (Genesis Live, Seconds Out, Three Sides
Live, and The two "Way We Walk" albums) and Bruford plays mostly
everything on Seconds out,<<<<

Actually...Bruford is only featured on one track on the album (and this is
taken straight from the liner notes on the album...)  Chester did most of the
drums except for:

Robbery, Assault & Battery--keyboard solo, Phil
Firth of Fifth--Phil & Chester
Musical Box--Chester & Phil
Supper's Ready-Apocalypse 9/8--Chester & Phil
Cinema Show--Bill Bruford, Phil during keyboard solo
Los Endos--Phil & Chester....

>>From what I've gandered about the Genesis history from back then, was Bill
Bruford helped out for a short while on the drumming, until they hired Chester
Thompson as their full time backing drummer....Phil commonly played during
sections that he wasn't singing, or at least would duet with Chester very

Given that Bill wasn't really playing with them for very long...only one track
>from his stint actually ended up on the live album....



From: Christopher W Lindsay 
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:52:30 -0500
Subject: Politically Incorrect Script

To all those who had wanted a copy, I sent them all to asked.  
However some of the mail came back.  If you did not receive
 a copy e-mail me privately with your address in the letter.  



Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:57:39 EST
Subject: DS poster

Can anyone help me on finding posters for sale at a secure sight? I need a DS
poster and would love to buy some others if I could. Also, if someone would
please direct me to a web site that I could buy a few things. I have only been
a fan for about three years and I need to catch up. 
Plus to those who care the King Crimson DVD kicks ass. The disc has about
eight different camera angles. You can watch any musician you want to plus
many other angles. The disc is in DTS and Dolby Digital.  And another thing to
those of you who want Rush tours on DVD (or remaster video) have you seen "A
work in progress" ?  If not they play a clip of Xanadu from Exit Stage Left
the picture is amazing.  If there is not going to be a DVD at all soon (due to
polygrams DVD troubles) at least give us a remaster of videos.  Does anyone
else think Rush could release more live albums to stimulate us rather then
sell us and themselves out?  I do, for one. 


From: stephen 
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 03:03:33 -0600
Subject: still yet more random thoughts 

(the email equivalent of a chat room's ".")

10.  Boy I wish I had something humorous to write.

  9.  What if we invented a style of golf that had to be played as "Rush Rules"?

  8.  The extended ending to Bravado on DS is probably the best live enhancement
to a Rush song ever (and I'll brook no arguments).  The first time I heard it, I
was openly weeping.  If I ever meet Geddy Lee, I am going to thank him
personally.  If I ever meet Neil, I'll ask him, "What happened to your pig
tail?" right after I find out when he's gonna pay back the twenty bucks he owes

  7.  Have you seen the screen saver with the dancing babies?  For a few
seconds, each baby does a little air guitar parody and the resemblance to Lerxst
during the Permanent Waves era is both exhilarating and frightening.  If I ever
met Alex, I'll ask him if they sampled his baby pictures.  After all, real
babies don't move like that.  (I already tried it with my nieces and nephews --
trial date is still pending)

  6.  My girlfriend is allergic to latex.  I really like the last half of the
Rhythm Method on DS; it could be the drum track for just about any top ten song
for the last ten years (by mariah carey or whitney houston), but it ain't and
that is just too cool.

  5.  If Phil Collins boards a train to Manchester at 10:15 and Neil gets on his
cycle in Leeds at 11:30 and both of them run out of kleenex at around noon, who
is the better drummer?

  4.  Geddy Lee is the Mary Tyler Moore of bass players.

  3.  Alex invented the Omega Guitar Stand (tm), new relief for hemmroid
sufferers (Lerxst Rinse and Shine -- ask for it by name) and the semi-colon.

  2.  When I was a kid, my friends and I bought Rush ALBUMS [and except for 
the first two, they all had liner notes] so there was never any doubt as to 
what the lyrics of song actually were.

  1.  When naming my new cats, I called the boy kitty "Gord Downy" (sp) from 
the tragically hip and the girl kitty "aimee mann", but my lady friend keeps 
calling her "aimee girl" because she is hardly manly.  I believe I will keep 
all three of the cellar.  [I'm KIDDING]

stephen melnyk
regina, saskatchewan


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