Site indices

Previous Issue <-> Next Issue


From temples@syrinx.umd.edu Fri Feb 12 19:13:03 1993
Return-Path: <temples@syrinx.umd.edu>
Received: from syrinx.umd.edu by dsys.ncsl.nist.gov (4.1/NIST-dsys)
	id AA05967; Fri, 12 Feb 93 19:13:01 EST
Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C)
        id AA24306; Fri, 12 Feb 93 18:30:17 -0500
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 18:30:17 -0500
Message-Id: <9302122330.AA24306@syrinx.umd.edu>
Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu
Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu
Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu
Precedence: bulk
From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu
To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu
Subject: 02/12/93 - The National Midnight Star #620
Status: R

**   ____     __           ___ ____   ___        ___       **
**    /  /_/ /_     /\  / /__/  /  / /  / /\  / /__/ /     **
**   /  / / /__    /  \/ /  /  /  / /__/ /  \/ /  / /___   **
**                                                         **
**                    __            ___       ____         **
**        /\  /\   / /  \  /\  / / /  _  /__/  /           **
**       /  \/  \ / /___/ /  \/ / /___/ /  /  /            **
**                                                         **
**                  ____ ____  ___  ___                    **
**                 /__    /   /__/ /__/                    **
**                ____/  /   /  / /  \                     **


List posting/followup:     rush@syrinx.umd.edu
Administrative matters:    rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu
                                    or
                           rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu

(Administrative postings to the posting address will be ignored!)

----------------------------------------------------------------------


          The National Midnight Star, Number 620

                 Friday, 12 February 1993
Today's Topics:
                       Great Cover
      Re: 02/10/93 - The National Midnight Star #618
                      license plate
                    Perfect Album Side
                   Rush at homecoming?
                   NECRO-philia-MANCER
          All of you anti-fourth-member weenies!
                      women and rush
                      another glitch
             Fourth member...food for thought
                     Female fans ...
                Peter Collins-----Awright!
                  Ayn Rand (mildly long)
                      Fourth Member
                   Rare Rush Recordings
                      No 4th Member
           comic response and some questions...
                  4th Member/New Album?
                    Unbelievable!!!!!
                     Neils new drums
                     John Dos Passos
                    Signals/4th member
            Origins Of By-Tor and the Snowdog
               4th member, a capella Rush?
                 Hidden sounds and "Ayn"
                     4th member poll
----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 11 Feb 93 13:35:06 -0700
From: Greg Thorwald <thorwald@mars.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Great Cover

Took a look at the gif file from Syrinx that would possibly
be used for you know what.  I like the three sail boats as it
seems to continue the idea of three objects in an etherial
environment seen in previous cover art.  In order to see the
picture, I had to increase the overall brightness by a gamma
warp factor of 5.  Is this just the local X-utility or has
anyone else had a similar difficulty?  Of course, I'm sure
we would all like to see it in hard copy form, if you know
what I mean.

Later, Greg

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1993 14:03:01 -0700 (MST)
From: MEZA <jomeza@nmsu.edu>
Subject: Re: 02/10/93 - The National Midnight Star #618

Hey RUSH Nuts,

	I have something to say about "STRANGERS IN A STRANGE LAND'S"
comment concerning Neil Peart, the master of rudimental percussion.
	Yes, he is right about Neil being an awesome percussionist, not a
drummer cuz' Tommy Lee (Lord forbid me associating him here) is a drummer.
All these poser mop-haired freaks are drummers.  If any of you PERCUSSIONISTS
are out there, they would agree that Neil uses many of the 42 technical
rudiments.  For example, listen all of the movements on Hemispheres.
I can hear flam accents and swiss army triplets back to back (Prelude!).
The Rhythm Method is also an example of his incredible technique.
	Indeed, he is truly amazing to see.  He also uses jazz feels in
his playing.  Take the drum fill on La Villa Strangiato, WOW!!  However,
I was somewhat disappointed to hear him playing almost the same solo on
the Roll The Bones Tour that he used for the Rhythm Method.
	A thought for the PERCUSSIONISTS...

		Did you guys know that he uses a drum machine????

     I have a RTB bootleg to prove it, listen to him. Almost a downer
for me.
   He is still bad ass!!!

					NMSU PRIDE BAND WORSHIPS RUSH,

                                                Joe Meza

----------------------------------------------------------

Subject: license plate
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 93 10:11:20 CST
From: Wungram T.A. Shishak 
      <tellab5!wheaton!david.wheaton.edu!wtshisha@uunet.UU.NET>

Adding to the Rush related license plate sightings...
Seen in the Chicagoland area:  RUSH YYZ

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1993 17:17:41 EST
From: rsw2@Lehigh.EDU (ROB WAGNER)
Subject: Perfect Album Side

Perfect album side...hmmm...

I'd have to go with Dreamline, Witch Hunt, Subdivisions, Ghost of a Chance,
and Time Stand Still.

They don't have any particular theme in common, and the side would sound just
about as "top-40" as Rush can get, but oh well.

As for this mysterious fourth member, I agree with what some people have said:
the chance of this happening is very, very slim.  I think they'd only add
another person (keyboard player, I guess) if Geddy's parts didn't allow him to
alternate between bass and synth- and they've never written that way in the
past.

-Rob

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: 11 Feb 1993 19:40:56 -0600 (CST)
From: Roll the Bones <TBEAUDOIN@VAX1.UMKC.EDU>
Subject: Rush at homecoming?

	I'm a bit behind in my NMS reading and recently discovered
that Earl mentioned that CttH was the homecoming theme for his freshman
year of high school (when DID you graduate? -- 1980?).    I'm curious
if anyone else out there has ever had a Rush theme at a high school/
college dance/homecoming/prom(!) or other big event.  It's so
completely unbelievably cool that I can't imagine it ever happening.

Thomas Beaudoin
TBEAUDOIN@VAX1.UMKC.EDU
	ORQ:"I will chew on papa's ear; I will chew three-wheel!"

----------------------------------------------------------

Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 93 20:50:26 EST
From: USUG4%UCONNVM.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject:      NECRO-philia-MANCER

Sorry to beat a dying horse, but I wanted to respond to J.T.Moore's comments
about any relationship between Tolkien and The Necromancer. . .

I always equated the "Three Travelers" to Frodo, Sam, and Gollum, as they
made thier way "southward" to the lair of the Necromancer.  Also, at the
beginning of Return of the Prince there is a mention of "The Wraith of the
Necromancer sails away . . ."  Throughout the Lord of the Rings the
"Ringwraiths", servants of Sauron, are searching for Frodo and the Ring.
As for By-Tor, I forget who exactly, but one of the hobbits slays the
Leader of the Ringwraiths during the final battle with Sauron.
     References to the "Dark Lands" also seem similar to the Descriptions
of Mordor ("Where the shadows lie . . . ").  Obviously, I see a definite
connection to Tolkien in "The Necromancer", just as in "Rivendell" on FBN.
Just my wordy opinion, however.

A big HELLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! to Scott in FLA !

Didacticly,
Floyd F.
<USUG4@uconnvm.uconn.edu>

sorry, no funky note trailer . . .

----------------------------------------------------------

Date:         Thu, 11 Feb 93 21:00:22 CST
From: S116193@UMRVMA.UMR.EDU
Subject:      All of you anti-fourth-member weenies!

This is not a contest to see who can deify Rush, people...  and Ghost, I'm
surprised to see your closed-mindedness on this discussion!!!

Why not welcome the creativity and artistic expression of another member?
Do you want to hear the same stuff all of the time?  O.K., different stuff,
same source...  I think Rush is ready for another.  It has little to do with
freeing up the parts on stage.  It has to do with injecting a little creativity
from another source.  If Rush does get a fourth, but doesn't let him/her
contribute to the material, I'll simply quit listening to them.  I don't
think they'd do that, though.  They know what sounds good, and they like to
experiment.  I can't believe how many of these no-life worshippers want to keep
a threesome!  Talking about "disrupting the chemistry" is cheese.  Who are we
to decide what would disrupt any "chemistry?"  And why make such a big deal
out of a retarded issue?  I think if the members of Rush read most of the
discussions lately, they would say, "Where are your lives, people?"  Let's
get some real discussions going, please.  I'm about to barf from everyone
trying to get into the minds of Neil, Alex, and Gary.  Oops, Geddy, sorry!

I still am praying for a fourth to get rid of the staleness.
Go ahead, flame me for the stale reference; many are afraid to admit it.

Scott s116193@umrvma.umr.edu

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 00:10:26 -0500
From: cdean@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Christopher Dean)
Subject: women and rush

It's been my experience that you don't find many females that like/know
about/listen to Rush.... So it's always a nice surprise to find one who does.
In fact, my last girlfriend was a Rush fan, which really surprised me!

Anyway, just out of curiosity, does everyone agree?  It seems like 1 out of
10 Rush fans is female (if you're having a good day! >:)  )

"Hey baby, it's a quarter to eight, I feel I'm in the mood...."

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 01:15:21 -0600
From: Jeremy Todd Strzynski  <jtstrzyn@cherry.wustl.edu>
Subject: another glitch

With all the recent talk on the "glitch" in The Twilight Zone, I have to ask
about another glitch in one of Rush's songs.  It occurs in The Camera Eye,
about 7-8 minutes into it, during the second time they do the chorus.  (Or
thereabouts, I'm not exactly sure where.)  Anyway, it sounds like they were
recording the song live, and one of them belched, and someone says "Come on,
guys."  Or something like that--it's all very unclear.  Anyway, if anyone has
any clue what it is, I'd really like to know.

a smiling native,
jeremy

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 2:01:55 cdt
From: "LaVllaStrngiato (Krauss,Eric B)" <KRAUSS@AC.GRIN.EDU>
Subject: Fourth member...food for thought

It seems that the major complaint about adding a fourth member (keyboardist)
would be his/her musical influence on the band.  I hate to burst your bubble,
but in an interview last year in "Bass Player" magazine, Geddy stated that
Rupert Hine had written 90% of the keyboard parts on "Presto" and "Roll the
Bones," with very little of the original parts which were sequenced on demo
tapes (along with...ugh!...drum machine).  Additionally, musicians such as
Andy Richardson, Hugh Syme, and others not credited on the albums (I have a
list from a book which I can photocopy and mail to those interested) have
played keyboards and other instruments on albums since "Caress of Steel."

I feel that Peter Collins is not the ultimate choice for producer; he is not
know for a "leaner, meaner sound," but tends towards overproduction and
artificiality (my opinion, plus stuff I've read).  One of the bands that he
has been producing recently is Queensrych (sp? I don't listen to them), btw.
Rupert Hine's sound is interesting, but it doesn't really fit Rush (it fits
Stevie Nicks and Tina Turner, whose albums Hine has produced).  His tendancy
towards mega-compressed background vocals (not only for Rush) is annoying.
Actually, disregard the Queensrych thing; Peter Henderson might be their
producer.

EK

----------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Female fans ...
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 8:30:36 GMT
From: Dominic Binks <binks@compsci.bristol.ac.uk>

I don't know, I may just be spouting crap, but here's my reading of the
situation -

In the early days of Rush, a lot of the ideas and imagery were of a nature that
was more likely to appeal to a male population, e.g. the Tolkein influence 2112
and the like (Note I only said likely)

Nowadays it isn't so clear cut.

Also Rush are sometimes quite heavy and this doesn't always go done well with
females, often, it seems to me, that if females like hard rock, they prefer
stuff heavier than Rush.

Nowadays Rush are so heavy and have many times of restful, gentle music.

Females (as a *HUGE* generalisation) tend to be more governed by fashion - Rush
certainly aren't fashionable (well not at the moment - and I guess probably
won't be).

Having said that I can find no good reason why females shouldn't like Rush. But
it does still comes as a pleasant surprise to find women who like Rush. I guess
as you say there just aren't that many of them.

Or maybe as a final thought it's because most male fans become totally absorbed
in Rushness and female fans don't - oh well I don't know.

Dominic Binks

----------------------------------------------------------

From: easy@west.darkside.com (Phil D. Croix)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 02:08:57 PST
Subject: Peter Collins-----Awright!

I haven't posted here in a loooooong time, so I thought I would express
how happy I am that Peter Collins is allegedly producing the next album.
I think Power Windows and HYF are Rush's best sounding records! Power
Windows is a masterpiece of music. I hope that Peter Collins will bring
their music back to more technical passages like in the Middle of
Territories, Big Money, and Mystic Rhythms. The songs on Power Windows
and HYF are so full of sweet stuff that I just sit there and cry when I
listen to it!!
    And about this 4th member B.S., I don't think another belongs in the
writing part of the band, but I would not mind at all if they had a dude
to play live. Maybe he would bring back the keyboard parts in Tom Sawyer
that they leave out in the live shows. I don't think that they are
considering adding a member, and I also think that that rumor is just
that-a rumor.
  As for Boots, I have Rosemont,IL (2 cds), and I do NOT recommend
getting it when there are such fine-ass sounding recordings like Over The
Europe. Rosemont is for hardcore collectors only, and there are some
bright moments on it like the reaction of the crowd when Alex makes his
guitar cry for mercy in the second part of the solo in La villa.
    LAter Rush dudes abd dudetts!

Matthew Van Horn

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1993 06:57:34 CST
Subject: Ayn Rand (mildly long)
From: pbryant@cs.ukans.edu!

    In my computer ethics class we are discussing Ethical Egoism.  Of course
Ayn Rand's name has come up.  Here are some of the things my book says about
her:

"The achievement of his own happiness is man's highest moral purpose."
     - from The Virtue of Selfishness (1961)

"...Ayn Rand, a writer little heeded by professional philosophers but who
 nevertheless was enormously popular on college campuses during the 1960's
 and 1970's.  Ethical Egoism, in her view, is the only ethical philosophy
 that respects the integrity of the individual human life."

"Ethical Egoism has haunted twentieth-century moral philosophy.  It has
 not been a popular doctrine; the most important philosophers have
 rejected it outright....  Although no thinker of consequence has
 defended it, almost everyone has felt it necessary to explain why he
 was rejecting it...."

All quotes from The Elements of Moral Philosophy by James Rachels

After reading the entire chapter I certainly agree that EE bites as a
moral theory.  What I found interesting, however, was picturing Neil Peart
as a thinker of no consequence!  It's interesting to see how NP's opinion
has (apparently) changed since the 2112 days.  Then he would acknowledge
"the genius of Ayn Rand".  Now, he quietly shys away from discussing what
he wrote back then.

To me, this supports what NP has said about growing and maturing as a
lyricist.  It follows that he has matured as a musician as well.
Maybe Rush associates their "old style" with their "old philosophy" and
that is why they have progressed to the RTB style?  I personally think
it is just a natural development - Look at the early vs. late stuff of
The Beatles or Zeppelin.  Whether their later stuff is better is irrelevant,
they are doing what comes natural.  If I were a professional musician I would
never want to stay the same.  I would hope that my fans trust me enough to
allow me to seek newer, and hopefully better ways of expressing myself.

BTW, I'm not trying to reopen the new vs. old can 'o worms.  That chapter on
Ayn Rand just got me thinking.  Besides, with a long post I feel more
comfortable offering a large quote at the end :)

"Radiation.  Yes indeed!  You hear the most outrageous lies about it.
 Half-baked, gogglebox do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you.
 Pernicious nonsense.  Everybody could stand a hundred chest x-rays
 a year.  They oughta have them too."   - Repo Man

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 09:28:36 CST
From: nbruels@romulus.cray.com (Nick Bruels  {66705 CF/DEV})
Subject: Fourth Member

Everyone,

The on-going discussion (really for many years now) about the fourth
member for keys certainly seems to be bringing out people's opinions
of Rush's music, and their individual talents.  However, what about
how Ged & Alex feel about using these "new" instruments to add texture
and challenge to their own performances???

I've been a dedicated fan since '77  (ooohhh, wow, I know...) when I
was a kid, so I've seen them evolve.  I started playing bass in school
because of guys like Ged.  I also was fascinated by synth's back then
(still am), so it seemed natural for me to try to emulate Ged's
skills - not just his mastery of the bass, but also his mastery of
PERFORMANCE to coordinate all the instruments together live.  Would
anyone suggest that Neil should stick to a `straight' kit, never using
even a chime?

Also, the sequenced parts are written by the band to be sequenced live,
so why do some of us think it's `cheating' to use them?  I've always
found playing along with a sequencer to be a challenge, given the
natural human tendency to wander with rythm.

Rush writes their own music their own way - this is what we all profess
to love about them - so why do we presume to say things like they
*should* be more guitar/bass/drums oriented or they *should* play more
old songs live, or......

I say (IMHO), "long live the threesome!" I we don't see a fourth
member (ever), and I certainly LOVE seeing them play live the way they
have for the last 16 years with keys/sequencers.  They are musicians,
not simply a guitarist, drummer, and bassist/vocalist trio.

Thanks for listening, and forgive me if I seem worked up about this!

nick.bruels@cray.com

BTW, I agree with the points Mike Hansen made about _The Necromancer_
and the Tolkien influence, and wishing to know more about their
inspirations from their earlier periods.

"...innocence gave me confidence/to go up against reality..."

   ----------------------------------------------------------------
   |                                                              |
   | Any opinions expressed herein are my own, and do not reflect |
   | those of my present or previous employers.    -- Nick Bruels |
   |                                                              |
   ----------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 11:28:08 -0500
From: hallg@egr.msu.edu
Subject: Rare Rush Recordings

I thought I'd share with everyone my awesome find recently.  I was able to
obtain copies of the Electric Ladyland and La Villa Strangiato rare recordings!

Both of these recordings sound incredible for rare recordings (i.e. footwear).
Electric Ladyland was recorded live in the studio in late 1974 and contains
a cover of the Beatles' song Bad Boy.  LVS was recorded live in 1980 on the PeW
tour and contains one of my all-time favorites Natural Science live!

Does anyone else who has Electric Ladyland get as much of a kick as I do
listening to Geddy between songs?  Also, this recording is hilareous because
after Geddy, Neil, and Alex get done wailing away on a tune, there is a
very subdued applause from 3 or 4 people. :)

If anyone wants more info on these recordings, feel free to email me.

Greg Hall
hallg@egr.msu.edu

Time after time we lose sight of the ways, our causes can't see the effects
* N. Peart 1980

----------------------------------------------------------

From: Rohit Keswani <keswani@UMDNJ.EDU>
Subject: No 4th Member
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 11:26:18 EST

You see, this is how rumors get started. Who knows, maybe somebody
who has something to do with MTV first heard of the 4th member
rumor hear a while back. Personally, I don't believe it unless I
am provided with a source I can look into myself. I think Oprah
should conduct a 90 minute prime time interview with Geddy where
he can dispel any such rumors about the band.

Oh, by the way, someone mentioned Power Windows, the Rush cover
band in NY, again. I saw them at the Rock n Roll cafe after reading
about them here and I must agree, they're pretty incredible. They
play just about all the good stuff (Rush music that Rush fans think
is good, not just Rush music that the general public thinks is
good). So I, too, would recommend seeing them if you can.

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 08:47:38 PST
From: brent@ufo.llnl.gov (Kevin B. Fournier)
Subject: comic response and some questions...

Howdy ya'll
In respons to my query about wether rush fans read comics,  Adam Coles wrote

>From: colesa@spot.Colorado.EDU
>Subject: re: Geddy in his own comic book?
>
>Wasn't there a Marvel Comic featuring RUSH, or at least mentioning the Trio?
>
>Somebody with a better memory help!

I also think there was an issue put out by the cheese-ball title *Rock and Roll*
comics that profiled Rush.  I believe it appeared last summer, but I never
picked it up.  If some one did and would care to comment...

Now, I in relation to comic books, I must mention the work of another Canadian.
Dave Sim's comic book, Cerebus, is a beautifully drawn black and white comic
which develops intricate stories over long periods of time.  The basic themes
which come through in many of the stories are a distrust of both big governments
and more often, anyone with a fanatical belief in any idea, the ability and
responsiblity for an individual to shape his or her own destiny, the whimsies
of fate in an ordinary Joe's life, and the accumilated weight of all the
experiences and memories we carry with us.  These ideas can be found in  all of
Rush's songs from as far back as Anthem up to Time Stands Still and even Roll
the Bones and Heresy (the attitude in this song toward the caprices of history
could come right out of a Cerebus issue).  Does anyone else read Cerebus or
another title they think compliments Rush well???  Why do Canadians seem so
talented when it comes to insightful writing???  (unrelated: isn't Margret
Atwood from Canada?  If so, why do our Northern Neighbors seem so distrustful
of authority???)

Thanks for your time,

Brent

==============================================

   The coffee's not bad for Nectar of the Gods
==============================================

----------------------------------------------------------

Date:         Fri, 12 Feb 93 12:00:30 EST
From: "Michael L. Sensor" <RUSH-LMB@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject:      4th Member/New Album?

A comment on the 4th member rumor (I doubt if it is anything more than that):

The point has been made that Rush could use the 4th member as a keyboardist.
I hold that with sequencing, a 4th member is really unnecessary.  Rush use
keyboards so infrequently these days that hiring someone just to play keyboards
would be useless.  Besides, what's next?  A horn section?  Female backup
singers?  Saxophones?  :-)

A question, too: This has probably already been addressed, but please bear with
me as I have just resubscribed after a year-long hiatus.  When (or if?) is the
next album going to be released?  I have heard rumors placing the release date
in September or October, but nothing definite.  Anyone with information, please
advise.

Did anyone notice on Tuesday's Rush Limbaugh (radio) Show that he played the
second cut from RTB (I for some reason completely forgot its name) about
1:45 as he was coming back from a commercial break?

----------------------------------------------------------

From: Wayne Torman <wayneto@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 09:48:40 PST
Subject: Unbelievable!!!!!

Hi all.

This morning, I awoke at 7:15 to complete astonishment..... they were
playing "The Locomotion" on my favorite local hard rock station here in
Seattle, KISW.  Then I remembered that today they are having a Comic
Relief 'Radiothon', where you can  call up and pay for them to play
"ANY" request.  (Where's the Rush content????? you may ask......)  The
very next song (and therefore the first COMPLETE song that I heard
today) was <drumroll, please> "The Rhythm Method"!!!!!!!!!!!
Three cheers for Kevin Oliver who shelled out $60.00 for them to play
this on the radio.  ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!!!!  EAT YOUR HEART OUT,
IOWA!!!!! (nothing personal, mind you!)

Wayne

----------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Neils new drums
From: wilkinso@west.darkside.com (Sean Flanegan)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 09:46:38 PST

        Well I have some news on Neils kit.   It will still be Ludwig,
but with a different color.  If you want to be surprised by it stop
reading here.......

      It will be a lighter green/blue color. For those of you drummers
out there it is about the same as the greenish finish on the Yamaha Maple
Custom drumkit. I heard this from a drum shop owner who orders drum cases
from Larry Allen,  who not only is Neil's drum tech. but who owns his own
drum accesories company ( I think it is called XL percussion ) I don't
know anything about drum demensions yet but this drum shop owner said
that Ludwig was going to wait and introduce the new finish with Neil's
ad.
         The Gods have shined on us Rush fans     PETER COLLINS is BACK!

sean

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 13:45:12 -0600
From: Eric Steven Liebman  <esliebma@lime.wustl.edu>
Subject: John Dos Passos

I opened a Dos Passos book in a used book store recently, and it was missing
two things: punctuation (?!) and coherence. "I don't know what Neil sees
in that guy." Of course, I am only telling you what I saw after looking a couple
of minutes, so I cannot attest to the fact the Dos Passos never uses punctuation
etc. I also noticed a lot of anti-capitalist propaganda within the covers.
In case you're counting, that's three strikes against J.D.P. for me, anyway.

Eric Alex Liebman

----------------------------------------------------------

Date:         12 Feb 93 14:33:11 EST
From: "Will Geeslin" <WILL.GEESLIN@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Signals/4th member

I disagree with whoever said that Signals isn't up to par.  I think it is a
great album. "Losing it" is a wonderfully introspective song that is very
haunting.  "Countdown", however, is not one of my favorites.  The rest of the
album is fabulous and I suggest that you go listen to it again.  The 4th mem-
ber rumor is an old one and it is one that I fell confident will never occur.
People have said it would free them up onstage:  well, if Rush hired a whole
band they could sit on lawn chairs and drink herbal tea during the concert,
watching it along with us.  Then they would be completely free.  They utilize
all this technology because it keeps playing interesting for them.  Someone
wanted them to do "Fly By Night" Part II:  taking nothing away from that album
(which I really do love)  but I think they would be bored doing regular old
trio rock and roll.  It makes them concentrate on hitting the trigger at the
right place and timing this and that perfectly.  Otherwise, they wouldn't
still be doing this Rush-thing because each tour is a new challenge.  If you
want stage antics from showmen, not muscians, go see Def Leppard.

----------------------------------------------------------

From: murpup@wpi.WPI.EDU (Christopher James Murray)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1993 15:22:38 -0500
Subject: Origins Of By-Tor and the Snowdog

This is in response to someone in the last NMS who wanted to know where the
idea for BY-TOR came from.  Simply put, the name of the song came from the
nicknames one of the bandmembers (I think Alex) gave to a friend's two dogs.

One of the dogs was white as snow, hence snow dog,  and the other had its
name derived from "biter" or BY-TOR because it was famous for biting people.

I am not sure of the exact details of the entire story but I do know that
the derivations of the two names above are true.  For the entire story of
why a song was inspired from these two dogs you will have to consult the
Rush biography, VISIONS.  It give the whole lowdown.

Anyway that is all I have to say for now.
see ya

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 14:32:41 -0600
From: bgc1@cec1.wustl.edu (Brian Glenn Carlson)
Subject: 4th member, a capella Rush?

I was just wondering exactly how these rumors keep coming up about a fourth
member and why they are given so much credence.  Has anyone actually heard
these rumors straight from the collective mouths of Rush or is it just a rumor
from that bastion of journalistic integrity, MTV.  I personally don't think
that this fourth member idea has much merit as I have heard numerous times
that Rush is happy with three members because it doesn't allow factions within
the group as well as various other reasons.

Anyway, I was recently talking to a member of a male a capella group here on
campus and he was trying to find a Rush song which would sound good a capella.
I was wondering if anyone had any ideas which they might like to share about
what you think might sound good a capella.  If you have ideas, please mail me.
Thanks.

P.S.  How 'bout them Blackhawks! 1st place in the Norris (the best division in
      the NHL). BTW, Hawks 6, Bruins 3.

Brian G. Carlson
bgc1@cec2.wustl.edu

"It takes a big man to cry, but it takes an even bigger man to
laugh at that man." - Jack Handey

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 15:09:51 -0600
From: Eric Steven Liebman  <esliebma@lime.wustl.edu>
Subject: Hidden sounds and "Ayn"

I've found some intersting sounds on Rush albums that I'll throw out
to see if anyone else has heard them:
1) On AtWaS, in the intro to Lakeside Park, some guy yells something
like "Let him drum!" Does anybody else have a different interpretation
of what he says?
2) This is probably known by many of you, but it took me a very long time
to realize that Alex plays rhythm through the whole second half of the
Freewill solo, even under the lead phrases (of course, the live performances
alternate between lead phrase and rythms as Alex is not Stanley Jordan).
3) According to a friend of mine, the intro to Witchhunt features yells
of "Kill the children of Ft. Lauderdale", but I can't be sure.
4) At the end of Digital Man, Ged says "but he won't need a bed because...
he happens to be... a digital man..."
5) Some of the Mission Control transmission during Countdown sound like
it is integrated into the song, for example, "We enjoyed the music, thank
you." "Oh, we enjoyed it, we just wanted to share something with you" at the
very end of the album. I mention points 4) and 5) because they were not readily
audible off om my cassettes, and it wasn't until I got CDs that I was able to
enjoy these lines.
6) At the end of Neurotica, Ged yells, "Stop!" By the way, this can also be
heard on Led Zeppelin III, on (I think) Out On the Tiles, after Plant says
"I'm so glad I'm leavin'"

Also, I think my first memo to this effect was lost, so I'll say again that
Ayn Rand's first name rhymes with MINE. This can be seen in both the intro
to her Playboy interview, which has just been reprinted in a Playboy
interview compilation, and on any of the scores of lecture tapes given by
fellow Objectivist philosophers, e.g., Dr. Leonard Peikoff.
  Her name at birth was Alyssa Rosenbaum (same initials), but after escaping
the clutches of the Communist Death Machine in Russia, she came to the U.S.
and wanted a more American name. She chose AYN which was the name of a Finnish
author she liked (I'm pretty sure), and RAND was from her Remington-Rand
typewriter. Her name can be seen in the credits of several 1940s Hollywood
films, including "Love Letters" and "You Came Along", for which she wrote 
screenplays.

Eric Alex Liebman, President, the Objectivist Club of Washington University

P.S. Dave B., my contact person at the AYn Rand Institute, told me
that about one half of the members of his local Objectivist Club in
Minnesota were drummers, and had become interested in Rand because of Rush
and Neil!! Anyone interested in free little pamphlets dealing with Rand's
ideas, please contact me.

----------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 17:37:29 -0500
From: nam2@po.CWRU.Edu (Nicholas A. Mascari)
Subject: 4th member poll

Once again, get your votes in!!!

1. I think a 4th permanent member of Rush is a good idea.

2. I think a 4th member to play keyboards IN CONCERT ONLY is a good idea.

3. I think Rush should remain a threesome, even live.

Send your vote to: nam2@po.cwru.edu

Thanks!

Nick

--
  Nick Mascari - Mechanical Engineering - CWRU       |~~~\ |    | /~~~\ |    |
"Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth   |___/ |    | \__   |____|
     living for."  - Neil Peart of Rush              | \   |    |     \ |    |
   "Beer: Man's greatest discovery" - NM             |   \  \__/  \___/ |    |

----------------------------------------------------------

To submit material to The National Midnight Star, send mail to:

    rush@syrinx.umd.edu

For administrative matters (subscription, unsubscription, changes, and 
questions), send mail to:

    rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu    or
    rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu

There is now anonymous ftp access available on Syrinx.  The network
address to ftp to is:

    syrinx.umd.edu       or       128.8.2.114

When you've connected, userid is "anonymous", password is <your userid>.
Once you've successfully logged on, change directory (cd) to 'rush'.

There is also a mail server available (for those unable or unwilling to
ftp).  For more info, send email with the subject line of HELP to:

    server@ingr.com

These requests are processed nightly.  Use a subject line of MESSAGE to
send a note to the server keeper or to deposit a file into the archive.

The contents of The National Midnight Star are solely the opinions and 
comments of the individual authors, and do not necessarily reflect the 
opinions of the authors' management, or the mailing list management.

Copyright The Rush Fans Mailing List, 1993.

Editor, The National Midnight Star
(Rush Fans Mailing List)
********************************************
End of The National Midnight Star Number 620
********************************************




Previous Issue <-> Next Issue