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          The National Midnight Star, Number 652

                  Thursday, 1 April 1993
Today's Topics:
		     Administrivia
                    Rush on the Radio
                        many misc.
                     Master and Rush
                           KSHE
                    College Rush songs
                       Album titles
              Working Man, Hemispheres LIVE
         Subdivisions keyboard solo transcription
                           Poll
                      Sounds o' Rush
                           rtb
                  RE:Popularity of Rush
                       Hear -n- Aid
              about the working album title
                Rush-Metallica connection.
      Re: 03/29/93 - The National Midnight Star #651
               Time Stand Still at Weddings
                         Lard...
                       Hear -n- Aid
                 What Critical Mass means
    Have YOU sent in YOUR deposit for the convention?
                    convention funding
                      Rush and Satan
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Date: Thu Apr  1 10:24:10 EST 1993
From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu <The National Midnight Star Editor>
Subject: Administrivia

There was no digest for Tues. March 30th and Wed. March 31st.  Apologies
to those who were expecting it.  There will be 2 digests today.

One other thing:
Please, let's not start up the big religion thread again!!  ARGH.  Any post 
about Rush and Satan will be moved to the end of the digest.  People who 
post about Rush and Satan, please check out Neil Peart's editorial on Rock 
and Satanism, (in the anon-ftp area) or email me.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 16:13:28 -0500
From: rmg2@cornell.edu
Subject: Rush on the Radio

I just spent my spring break at home on Long Island and was pleasantly
suprised to hear an unbelievable amount of Rush on the Radio:

Bravado (twice)
Dreamline (three times)
Limelight (three times)
Ghost of a Chance (twice)
Subdivisions
Closer to the Heart
Distant Early Warning
Tom Sawyer
Roll the Bones
Spirit of Radio (three times)

"living in the limelight"
Ross Goldstein
Cornell University
rmg2@cornell.edu

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Subject: many misc.
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 13:52:12 -0600 (CST)
From: David R. Gilbert <dave@uu2.psi.com>

Okay.  Another new-comer with a first-time post: Howdy!

In response to several things:

    1)  I'm all for having a poll on whether or not we should have
        any more polls. My vote: Not.

    2)  Rush on the radio in Chicago doesn't appear to be much
        better than the rest of the world.  Our two main 'rock'
        stations: WLUP 97.9 and WBLZ 103.5, tend to play the
        same songs - i.e.:

             Tom Sawyer, Spirit of Radio, New World Man, etc.

        Although we just got a new 'night' station that seems
        to be playing more.  The call-in requests continue....

    3)  Geddy is the best bass player I've ever heard (IMHO, of course).

    4)  Rush Opening Band: Primus or Dream Theatre. (NOT Mr. Big, please!).

That's all for now. Of course, ALL opinions are IMHO.

--
Dave
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Date:         29 Mar 93 16:57:04 EST
From: "Will Geeslin" <WILL.GEESLIN@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Master and Rush

As well as I remember, Geddy Lee wanted to produce the Master of Puppets
album and of course they wanted him also.  However, due to Rush's very
busy recording/touring schedule time wouldn't allow Geddy to become deeply
commited to the project.  Hence, the thank you on the liner notes

   [ Will, where did you get this information on Geddy wanting to produce
     Masters of Puppets.  Please unless we have specific proof, let's not
     start any speculations.  Geddy has been noted for saying in interviews
     that one of the new groups he likes is Metallica.  Cliff Burton, the
     original bassist for the group (before he died), has mentioned Geddy 
     and Rush as one of his major influences and favorite bands.  I recall
     nothing in terms of Geddy wanting to produce Masters of Puppets.  If
     there's a particular interview you have or something else with
     information about this I'd love to check it out.  :rush-mgr ]

Will
PS Hey Chad! Expect a surprise...

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 17:31:11 -0500
From: nam2@po.CWRU.Edu (Nicholas A. Mascari)
Subject: KSHE

>I personally would recomend KSHE 95 (95.4 MHz) out of St. Louis... by far the
>most redeeming radio station in So. IL, Ea. MO, and that general area.  I'm
>not big into Chicago radio (cause I can't get it) but the AM/FM Loop (WLUP)
>plays good Rush on occasion... B96 sux!
>
>So, if you're in St. Louis for a RUSH concert, dial up 95.4 for pre- and post-
>RUSH tunes... afterward they play the entire concert out (all the songs) for
>that drive home!

I met a few other NMSers (Hey Mike, Dave, Lewis and Tony!) for the St Louis
show and thought that KSHE was pretty cool at first, cuz they were there
handing out Rush bumper stickers. But THEN they cranked up their broadcast
REALLY loud, drowning out the soundcheck we earlybirds had come to listen
to.  :(

Oh well...I'll take your word for it that they're a good station, but
blasting over Rush's soundcheck....sheeez how rude!! ;-)

Seeyas at convention!

Nick
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 20:19:47 -0500
From: tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu (Travis Corcoran)
Subject: College Rush songs

Don't think there are any:

	1)  I've listened to every song 2^nth times, and don't remember one.
	2)  Don't think any of the three went to college...

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    Travis J.I. Corcoran       tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu
   Buy a rifle, encrypt your data, and wait for the revolution!

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 20:29:46 -0500
From: tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu (Travis Corcoran)
Subject: Album titles

Re: Scott David Daly's statement in National Midnight Star #651 of
working titles vs. actual titles:

Is there anyone else out there who thinks that "Wavelength" is a
cooler title than "Permanent Waves" ?

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    Travis J.I. Corcoran       tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu
   Buy a rifle, encrypt your data, and wait for the revolution!

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 19:39:28 -0600
From: bgc1@cec2.wustl.edu (Brian Glenn Carlson)
Subject: Working Man, Hemispheres LIVE

In TNMS #651, Donald Petrille was wondering about "any songs rush has about
the drudgeries of college life (i.e., working so hard for what seems like so
little)."  There is one song that comes immediately to my mind here, and it is
none other than Working Man, one of my favorite songs of all time.  Besides
a great guitar riff, it seems to describe what Mr. Petrille was looking for.
Whenever I am overworked (which is a lot here at Wash. U.), I crank it up and
relax for the seven or eight minutes of the song.  It does wonders.

Also, someone mentioned a Radio One recording of a live show which contained
Hemispheres.  I have been looking for a live recording of either that or
Circumstances for a while now, and have yet to find them.  If anyone has info
on this, I'm sure that there would be plenty of interest among NMS members.
Maybe we could write to Radio One and get them to rebroadcast it.  I would
love to get my hands on a copy.  That's all for now.

Brian G. Carlson (bgc1@wucec2.wustl.edu)
"We claim to know the secrets
 The answers have been found
 But how can one fool make another wise?" - Kansas, No One Together

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 21:17:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Herschel A Gelman <hagst3+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Subdivisions keyboard solo transcription

Well, I know how to play it, or at least I did at some point.  I haven't
played that in a while, and right now, sitting here in the lab, I don't
even remember the basic stuff for playing that solo.  So, if in a couple
of days it still remains unposted, I'll put it up, since by then I'll
have a chance to get to a piano or keyboard and relearn it.  Friday's a
definite keyboard availability day.  (Unless anyone at Pitt would like
to let me use their keyboard for a bit??  :-)

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Date: 29 Mar 93 21:35:09 EST
From: Philip.S.Augur@Dartmouth.EDU (Philip S. Augur)
Subject: Poll

I'm wondering who suggested Kate Bush as the opener for Rush. If that were
the case I would drop dead. Kate was my first musical addiction--I've
everything she's done, save the box set that was only released in England.
Hey, any of you guys (or gals) from England who might be able to get a hold
of it for me, drop me a line on e-mail (directly--don't post here)--I'd
really appreciate it. Of course Kate's been overrun by my thirteen CD Rush
collection to date (I've yet to buy COS because I've been "borrowing" it from
a freshman since September, I also don't have any of the live albums). I've
reached a real dilemma at this point because I have a 6 CD magazine changer
and so I have 12 of my CDs loaded in magazines loaded with RTB and the
borrowed COS loose. Do you guys who have ATWAS and ESL... think I should get
them to help fill another magazine (with the upcoming new release--I can't
wait)? I bought ASOH used last year and returned it because I wasn't too
impressed, but then again, at that time I was not yet addicted (now Rush gets
over 90% of my play time).

Last weekend I saw an incredible concert on public television--The Moody
Blues at Red Rock. They might be an interesting opener for Rush. They had the
Colorado Symphony Orchestra with them. Of course I didn't pledge any money to
them. But now if public television did a few hours of Rush concerts I'm sure
many of us would pledge some money. Anyone know anybody in public TV?

Phil

"You can twist perception, reality won't budge." - NP

P.S. - Today was the first day of classes for the spring term and I was
pretty psyched to see "The Fountainhead" film on my architecture syllabus.
I'll have to talk to the prof. about Ayn Rand and Neil.

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Subject: Sounds o' Rush
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 20:34:30 -0800
From: thealien@nevada.edu

	Well, after much frenzied work(Oh, btw, HI! I'm new here) I produced
the following in .wav and .snd format(.snd aka FSSD/FSSC standard mac sound
format)

All from 2112
"And the meek shall inherit the earth"
"Our great computers build a hell on earth"
"Attention all planets of the solar federation, we have assumed control"*

"Don't annoy us further, oh we have our work to do"
"They left our planets long ago, the elder race still learn and grow"
"They left our planets long ago, the elder race still learn and grow, their
	power grows with purpose strong, to claim the home where they belong"
"They left our planets long ago, the elder race still learn and grow, their
	power grows with purpose strong, to claim the home where they belong,
	home to tear the temples down, home to change!"
"I stand atop a spiral stair, an oracle confronts me there"

"We are the priests of the temples of Syrinx"

I can do more, but all I have to work with are 2112, Chronicles, and Moving
Pictures.  If anyone wants other albums...Mail me the CD(I'll send it back!)
or wait until I feel the need to buy it(grin).
I'll be happy to grab what you want..

____________________________________________________________________________
Sean McCarthy IS             {  }"I'm told it's my duty to fight against
thealien@cs.unlv.edu          }{   the Law, that there's freedom in my blade
thealien@redrock.nevada.edu  {  }  and that wizardry's my trade.."
"Chaotic is NOT Evil!"- Me    }{    -Black Blade by Blue Oyster Cult
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 00:59:01 EST
From: jenkinsp@kenyon.edu
Subject: rtb

Yo Rush fans.  Can anybody explain the "Now it's dark" from the jacket of Roll
the Bones?  My friends and I thought maybe it meant that they were through, and
we panicked.  Also, can anyone confirm for sure that Rush has a new album due
out in June and a concert tour starting in September?  

    [ Sorry folks, let's not get excited over this June deadline for the
      new album, or the tour in September.  This is *FALSE* and can be
      traced back to a posting in alt.music.rush on USENET.  The album
      is scheduled for Sept/Fall '93 release and tour has been pushed
      back to Jan. '94.					:rush-mgr ]

My top 5 albums:
5)Moving Pictures
4)Permanent Waves
3)Presto
2)Hold Your Fire
1)Hemispheres

 In my mind, those 5 are the clear best.  I want to say hi to Daryl and Eric.
             Later--  Peter Jenkins

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 01:42:33 EST
From: My new mail header <vaghini@scoman.enet.dec.com>
Subject: RE:Popularity of Rush

	Murali...

	I happen to know for a fact that Rush can be enjoyed while
	in a stupor.  Granted it can also be enjoyed any other time,
	but perhaps you should try setting down on a cool summer
	afternoon with a few limes, some tonic water, and a bottle
	Stoli, pop in Hemispheres, and go into one.  You'd be surprised
	how moving a stupor can be...

	On a totally different note, has anyone else noticed that female
	Rush fans are a totally different creature?

	Johnny

+--------------+  "Almost entirely, but not quite, unlike tea"  +--------------+

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Subject: Hear -n- Aid
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 7:13:10 GMT
From: Dominic Binks <binks@compsci.bristol.ac.uk>

Hear -n- Aid was a part of that whole Aid thing at that time. It was Ronnie
James Dio's conception I beleive because 'Heavy Metal' bands weren't really
allowed to play in Live Aid unless they were reforming specially for it.
(Basically there were very few hard rock bands in Live Aid). Hear -n- Aid was a
compilation of a whole load of bands and also includes the song We're Stars
written by Dio. The Rush contribution is Distant Early Warning (freaky - see my
post in yesterday's NMS) Live. It's no great deal because that version is
available elsewhere (in fact on the B-side of the Prime Mover single). I think
this version of DEW is from the same concert as the GUP video. I'm sure a
RushHead on this mailing list will correct me if I'm wrong.:->

     [ You're correct on this.  I've only seen an official tape release
       of Hear-n-Aid and it does indeed have DEW on it live.  I've not
       seen it again for about 4-5 years now.  You could probably find it at a
       use record shop or something.  I doubt it's out on cd.  :rush-mgr ]

Dominic Binks
binks@uk.ac.bris.cs

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Date: 30 Mar 1993 01:37:43 -0600 (CST)
From: The Return of the King <AR03666%SWT.DECNET@relay.the.net>
Subject: about the working album title

(insert (sub) standard comments about it being my first post here)

    I have yet another theory about what "Critical Mass" could be
    referring to.  How about something along the lines of a
    church blowing up on Sunday? (I'm not trying to be
    anti-religious, but considering some of the past album names,
    this seems like a valid interpretation)  I know this almost
    begs to lead into the old time worn topic about "Is Neal
    Peart an Atheist?" (OK, it doesn't almost beg, it screams).

    Allen

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 07:24:00 +0000
From: "Oliver (O.R.) Sampson" <olsam@bnr.ca>
Subject: Rush-Metallica connection.

As for the Rush-Metallica connection, I remember an interview
with Geddy Lee from some years back (85-87ish) where he was asked
what he thought of bands like Metallica--heavy and fast.  Geddy's
reply was that he (not sure this is verbatim) "loved bands going
a million miles an hour.  I think it's great."

Happy racing.

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Oliver R. Sampson             "You're gonna need a bigger boat." --
Member of Scientific Staff                            Roy Scheider, Jaws
Internet:  olsam@bnr.ca
"All opinions expressed here are the opinions solely of the author,
and they are in no way a reflection of opinions or policies of BNR, Inc.
or Northern Telecom." -- The boss says I have to put this in here.
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Subject: Re: 03/29/93 - The National Midnight Star #651
From: alester@farpost.chi.il.us (Andy Lester)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 23:37:37 CST

[... much hoohah about the Branch Davidians ]

> 	#10. FLY BY NIGHT ("...fly by night, away from here...")
> ...
> 	#1. YOU BET YOUR LIFE

Didn't a comparable list like this come out when We (the mighty World
Police) were in trying to get Manuel Noriega, and there were lists of
songs that we used to get them out?

This is just too similar to believe.  What's your source on it?

---
alester@farpost.chi.il.us           I can only refer to it as "the purple
Andy Lester, Palatine, IL           dinosaur."  Otherwise, I might get sued.
Fidonet 1:115/934

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 09:19 EST
From: LIFE IS MERELY WHAT WE DO IN BETWEEN HOCKEY <FORD29@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
Subject: Time Stand Still at Weddings

Greetings and Salutations,

   On the subject of Rush music played at weddings, I happened to be the
best man at a wedding last October, and before I accepted the job, I told
the couple in question that they must agree to play Time Stand Still at
the reception.  They did.  It seemed to me to be the perfect song for
such an occasion.

ford29@vms.cis.pitt.edu

"Pittsburgh Penguins - 1992-93 Patrick Division Champions"

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Date:       Tue, 30 Mar 93 15:28:16 BST
From: "Roger G Haworth   userid " <SRGH0%IBM-B.RUTHERFORD.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk>
Subject:    Lard...

JACS Computer Room, x1774.
E-mail (JANET): srgh0@uk.ac.rl.ib

In response to L Clator Butler Jr's question regarding Hear 'n' Aid...

This was a project related to Live Aid back in 1985. Ronnie James Dio (one of
the best rock vocalists ever) was the brains behind it, and also wrote the
single (Stars) released with the album. The single had various rock luminaries
perform on it, such as Adrian Smith and Dave Murray of Iron Maiden, Geoff Tate
of Queensryche, Vince Neil and Mick Mars of Motley Crue, Ted Nugent, Blackie
Lawless of WASP, Vivian Campbell, Jimmy Bain and Vinnie Appice of Dio (Viv now
of course wasting his time and talent with Def Leppard)...even Spinal Tap made
an 'appearance'! There are many more, but my memory of those days is fading.
As far as I DO remember, Rush had no part in the single, but instead
contributed a song for the album, which I think (and I stress think) may have
been a live version of 'The Spirit of Radio'. If anybody can confirm this or
correct me I'd be grateful. The rest of the album featured songs from various
other big name (at the time) rock bands. Some of the songs were previously
unreleased. I'm sorry, but I can't remember who they were by, or what they
were! Never mind, I hope this has helped anyway...

	[ The song Rush contributed was Distant Early Warning.  :rush-mgr ]

There has been much discussion recently comparing Geddy Lee and Sting. My own
opinion is that Sting may not necessarily play such flamboyant lines as Geddy,
but he generally plays a fretless, which is much trickier than fretted. I
don't think I've ever heard Geddy play a fretless.

Finally, to John Santore. I'm sorry there hasn't been more interest in the
convention. I would go if I could afford it, but Toronto is a hell of a long
way from the south of England! I wish you all the best, and I'm sure I speak
for the whole NMS membership when I say I really appreciate your efforts. Of
course, that isn't going to make you feel a whole lot better when what you
need is more financial commitment from people who could get there! COME ON YOU
LOT IN NMS LAND! DON'T JUST LET THE CONVENTION FALL APART! There, I've said
it...

Actually, this is the final point - what's happening with the thing that shall
not be mentioned?

Large nards,

Rodge

'Let us not go gently to the endless winter night'

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 10:38:17 EST
From: JOHN P GEMMELL <gemmellj@merrimack.edu>
Subject: Hear -n- Aid

Hear n aid was Canada's version of USA for Africa "We are the world..."
Some of the artists who were a part of this project were Rush and Brian
Adams.  I'm not sure who else took part in this...

john gemmell
merrimack college
north andover, ma 01845

"Go Bruins !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
the contents of this posting does not necessarly reflect the opinions of
merrimack college

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From: Mark Landin <landin@cherokee.nsuok.edu>
Subject: What Critical Mass means
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 10:39:10 CST

Someone stated that the new album might be called "Critical Mass" and
wondered what that meant in relation to nuclear physics. Well, I'm no
nuclear scientist, but basically, a "critical mass" of uranium is the
smallest amount of uranium necessary to carry on a self-sustaining nuclear
fission reation. When a uranium atom splits (fissions), it releases a
fast neutron, which will fly around, with the itention of hitting another
uranium atom which will split and release a neutron which will fly around and
hit a uranium atom and .... you get the picture. If you don't have a critical
mass of uranium, this reaction just peters out (hmmm....peters out, Peter
Collins, Critical Mass....just coincidence?). Above the critical mass, the
reaction just keeps multiplying (hmm...references to "Chemistry"?), and you
have to deliberately slow the reaction down or it will melt your reactor and
go to China through the floor.

I'm sure some other readers will post explanations too. One of the most re-
freshing things about Rush is that the general Rush fan seems to be slightly
more intelligent than the average bear. I'm sure Rush is glad that their
fans generally have the brainpower to recognize and decipher all the hidden
meanings in their songs and album covers and nicknames, etc.
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*  landin@cherokee.nsuok.edu					Tahlequah, OK *
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 10:47:00 CST
From: UC512052@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu
Subject: Have YOU sent in YOUR deposit for the convention?

I called up John Santore yesterday and talked with him for 10-15 minutes.
The guy is REALLY psyched about the POSSIBILITIES for the convention,
however, he sounded downright UPSET that there hasn't been a bigger
response.  It is obvious that he has spent a lot of time preparing this
for us.  He also mentioned the POSSIBILITY of getting someone VERY
IMPORTANT from Anthem Records.

My deposit is now on its way.  How about you?  Maybe you're wary about
the convention actually happening.  John tells me (and please, John,
correct me if I am wrong) that no one's deposit check will be cashed
until he's sure it can really happen - so you don't have anything to
lose (except 29 cents).

So far the NMS has actually done everything it has talked about (our CD
is coming along) so let's not blow our track record now!

Regards,

David "If you still choose not to decide, YOU CANNOT HAVE MADE A CHOICE!"

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Date:    Tue, 30 Mar 93 12:37 EST
From: <JPM136@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: convention funding

Greetings all,
    This is my first post to TNMS so I'd like to say thanks for having me.

    Also, the reason why I am posting is because of my concern for the
convention.  Mr. Sanatore <sp>? reported that the number of people signed up is
low.  I know I can't make it, but I would hate to see this fail.  So here's my
idea:
    A few people inquired about video tapes of the event.  I am also interested
in one.  If the people who are interested in the tape are willing to pay out
some extra funds perhaps we can raise some money for the event that way?
     Please comment on the proposal.  Maybe we can make the convention happen.
Great things usually start small!
                                         Respectfully,
                                               Joe Maletta

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Subject: Rush and Satan
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 7:31:08 GMT
From: Dominic Binks <binks@compsci.bristol.ac.uk>

    [ Please check out Neil's editorial on Rock and Satanism.  Also for
      you fans reading this check out Dominic's PS. message at the
      bottom of his post.  :rush-mgr ]

Sorry to post again, but I've been deftly avoiding replying to this thread in
alt.music.rush, but since it's turned up here I hope some sensible discussion
(which has not been covered before) may be started up. By the way just so you
know where I stand - I am a Christian.

        Heavy metal megastars RUSH sing 'All the world's a stage'
   The reversal reveals the words " Oh Satan, you, you are the
   one who is shining wall of satan , Walls of sacrifice . I know
   it's you are the one I love ."

Assuming this is a correct transcription by raghubn@vigyan.iisc.ernet.in (which
I am).

I'm no linguist but this doesn't make sense to me. The words aren't formed into
sentences. In the last sentence there are 2 parts of the verb to be with the
same object and subject. I think that it's fair to say that Rush would never
let anything so cack appear to their name. Even if they were to do such a thing
I'm sure it would be done with the usual finess with which they approach all
their music.

If people want to sing about Satan they usually do it forwards - this way it
will receive a bigger audience. Since Rush are primarily concerned with getting
messages across to their audiences - thus were they to sing about Satan I think
they would do it forwards.

I didn't beleive that Judas Priest and Ozzy Osbourne had the things in their
music they were accused of and if I don't beleive it for them I certainly don't
beleive for Rush. In fact one of the reasons that the Judas Priest case was
such a mockery was the fact the Judas Priest themselves played the album
backwards that they had reportedly put all these messages in and it was quite
amusing and a lot clearer than the massively enhanced backwards vocals that
were supposed to be there.

Finally (sorry for boring some of you) Rush spend so much time getting things
right going forwards I would doubt they had any energy to worry about what they
are going to sound like backwards, after all about 99.999% of the audience is
going to play it forwards - why worry about what it sounds like backwards ?

Dominic Binks
binks@uk.ac.bris.cs

P.S. If anyone wants to discuss other issues of this it might be better to move
     to email.
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          The National Midnight Star, Number 652

                  Thursday, 1 April 1993
Today's Topics:
		     Administrivia
                    Rush on the Radio
                        many misc.
                     Master and Rush
                           KSHE
                    College Rush songs
                       Album titles
              Working Man, Hemispheres LIVE
         Subdivisions keyboard solo transcription
                           Poll
                      Sounds o' Rush
                           rtb
                  RE:Popularity of Rush
                       Hear -n- Aid
              about the working album title
                Rush-Metallica connection.
      Re: 03/29/93 - The National Midnight Star #651
               Time Stand Still at Weddings
                         Lard...
                       Hear -n- Aid
                 What Critical Mass means
    Have YOU sent in YOUR deposit for the convention?
                    convention funding
                      Rush and Satan
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Date: Thu Apr  1 10:24:10 EST 1993
From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu <The National Midnight Star Editor>
Subject: Administrivia

There was no digest for Tues. March 30th and Wed. March 31st.  Apologies
to those who were expecting it.  This is a RESEND of this digest (#652) -- if
you already have it, just ignore this. Apparently not all users got this issue,
and the second issue was *never* sent out. So expect two digests today, and
there will be a 'regular' digest tomorrow (on Sat) for today's posts.

One other thing:
Please, let's not start up the big religion thread again!!  ARGH.  Any post 
about Rush and Satan will be moved to the end of the digest.  People who 
post about Rush and Satan, please check out Neil Peart's editorial on Rock 
and Satanism, (in the anon-ftp area) or email me.

- rush-mgr

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 16:13:28 -0500
From: rmg2@cornell.edu
Subject: Rush on the Radio

I just spent my spring break at home on Long Island and was pleasantly
suprised to hear an unbelievable amount of Rush on the Radio:

Bravado (twice)
Dreamline (three times)
Limelight (three times)
Ghost of a Chance (twice)
Subdivisions
Closer to the Heart
Distant Early Warning
Tom Sawyer
Roll the Bones
Spirit of Radio (three times)

"living in the limelight"
Ross Goldstein
Cornell University
rmg2@cornell.edu

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Subject: many misc.
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 13:52:12 -0600 (CST)
From: David R. Gilbert <dave@uu2.psi.com>

Okay.  Another new-comer with a first-time post: Howdy!

In response to several things:

    1)  I'm all for having a poll on whether or not we should have
        any more polls. My vote: Not.

    2)  Rush on the radio in Chicago doesn't appear to be much
        better than the rest of the world.  Our two main 'rock'
        stations: WLUP 97.9 and WBLZ 103.5, tend to play the
        same songs - i.e.:

             Tom Sawyer, Spirit of Radio, New World Man, etc.

        Although we just got a new 'night' station that seems
        to be playing more.  The call-in requests continue....

    3)  Geddy is the best bass player I've ever heard (IMHO, of course).

    4)  Rush Opening Band: Primus or Dream Theatre. (NOT Mr. Big, please!).

That's all for now. Of course, ALL opinions are IMHO.

--
Dave
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Date:         29 Mar 93 16:57:04 EST
From: "Will Geeslin" <WILL.GEESLIN@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Master and Rush

As well as I remember, Geddy Lee wanted to produce the Master of Puppets
album and of course they wanted him also.  However, due to Rush's very
busy recording/touring schedule time wouldn't allow Geddy to become deeply
commited to the project.  Hence, the thank you on the liner notes

   [ Will, where did you get this information on Geddy wanting to produce
     Masters of Puppets.  Please unless we have specific proof, let's not
     start any speculations.  Geddy has been noted for saying in interviews
     that one of the new groups he likes is Metallica.  Cliff Burton, the
     original bassist for the group (before he died), has mentioned Geddy 
     and Rush as one of his major influences and favorite bands.  I recall
     nothing in terms of Geddy wanting to produce Masters of Puppets.  If
     there's a particular interview you have or something else with
     information about this I'd love to check it out.  :rush-mgr ]

Will
PS Hey Chad! Expect a surprise...

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 17:31:11 -0500
From: nam2@po.CWRU.Edu (Nicholas A. Mascari)
Subject: KSHE

>I personally would recomend KSHE 95 (95.4 MHz) out of St. Louis... by far the
>most redeeming radio station in So. IL, Ea. MO, and that general area.  I'm
>not big into Chicago radio (cause I can't get it) but the AM/FM Loop (WLUP)
>plays good Rush on occasion... B96 sux!
>
>So, if you're in St. Louis for a RUSH concert, dial up 95.4 for pre- and post-
>RUSH tunes... afterward they play the entire concert out (all the songs) for
>that drive home!

I met a few other NMSers (Hey Mike, Dave, Lewis and Tony!) for the St Louis
show and thought that KSHE was pretty cool at first, cuz they were there
handing out Rush bumper stickers. But THEN they cranked up their broadcast
REALLY loud, drowning out the soundcheck we earlybirds had come to listen
to.  :(

Oh well...I'll take your word for it that they're a good station, but
blasting over Rush's soundcheck....sheeez how rude!! ;-)

Seeyas at convention!

Nick
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 20:19:47 -0500
From: tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu (Travis Corcoran)
Subject: College Rush songs

Don't think there are any:

	1)  I've listened to every song 2^nth times, and don't remember one.
	2)  Don't think any of the three went to college...

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    Travis J.I. Corcoran       tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu
   Buy a rifle, encrypt your data, and wait for the revolution!

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 20:29:46 -0500
From: tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu (Travis Corcoran)
Subject: Album titles

Re: Scott David Daly's statement in National Midnight Star #651 of
working titles vs. actual titles:

Is there anyone else out there who thinks that "Wavelength" is a
cooler title than "Permanent Waves" ?

---
    Travis J.I. Corcoran       tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu
   Buy a rifle, encrypt your data, and wait for the revolution!

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 19:39:28 -0600
From: bgc1@cec2.wustl.edu (Brian Glenn Carlson)
Subject: Working Man, Hemispheres LIVE

In TNMS #651, Donald Petrille was wondering about "any songs rush has about
the drudgeries of college life (i.e., working so hard for what seems like so
little)."  There is one song that comes immediately to my mind here, and it is
none other than Working Man, one of my favorite songs of all time.  Besides
a great guitar riff, it seems to describe what Mr. Petrille was looking for.
Whenever I am overworked (which is a lot here at Wash. U.), I crank it up and
relax for the seven or eight minutes of the song.  It does wonders.

Also, someone mentioned a Radio One recording of a live show which contained
Hemispheres.  I have been looking for a live recording of either that or
Circumstances for a while now, and have yet to find them.  If anyone has info
on this, I'm sure that there would be plenty of interest among NMS members.
Maybe we could write to Radio One and get them to rebroadcast it.  I would
love to get my hands on a copy.  That's all for now.

Brian G. Carlson (bgc1@wucec2.wustl.edu)
"We claim to know the secrets
 The answers have been found
 But how can one fool make another wise?" - Kansas, No One Together

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 21:17:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Herschel A Gelman <hagst3+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Subdivisions keyboard solo transcription

Well, I know how to play it, or at least I did at some point.  I haven't
played that in a while, and right now, sitting here in the lab, I don't
even remember the basic stuff for playing that solo.  So, if in a couple
of days it still remains unposted, I'll put it up, since by then I'll
have a chance to get to a piano or keyboard and relearn it.  Friday's a
definite keyboard availability day.  (Unless anyone at Pitt would like
to let me use their keyboard for a bit??  :-)

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Date: 29 Mar 93 21:35:09 EST
From: Philip.S.Augur@Dartmouth.EDU (Philip S. Augur)
Subject: Poll

I'm wondering who suggested Kate Bush as the opener for Rush. If that were
the case I would drop dead. Kate was my first musical addiction--I've
everything she's done, save the box set that was only released in England.
Hey, any of you guys (or gals) from England who might be able to get a hold
of it for me, drop me a line on e-mail (directly--don't post here)--I'd
really appreciate it. Of course Kate's been overrun by my thirteen CD Rush
collection to date (I've yet to buy COS because I've been "borrowing" it from
a freshman since September, I also don't have any of the live albums). I've
reached a real dilemma at this point because I have a 6 CD magazine changer
and so I have 12 of my CDs loaded in magazines loaded with RTB and the
borrowed COS loose. Do you guys who have ATWAS and ESL... think I should get
them to help fill another magazine (with the upcoming new release--I can't
wait)? I bought ASOH used last year and returned it because I wasn't too
impressed, but then again, at that time I was not yet addicted (now Rush gets
over 90% of my play time).

Last weekend I saw an incredible concert on public television--The Moody
Blues at Red Rock. They might be an interesting opener for Rush. They had the
Colorado Symphony Orchestra with them. Of course I didn't pledge any money to
them. But now if public television did a few hours of Rush concerts I'm sure
many of us would pledge some money. Anyone know anybody in public TV?

Phil

"You can twist perception, reality won't budge." - NP

P.S. - Today was the first day of classes for the spring term and I was
pretty psyched to see "The Fountainhead" film on my architecture syllabus.
I'll have to talk to the prof. about Ayn Rand and Neil.

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Subject: Sounds o' Rush
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 20:34:30 -0800
From: thealien@nevada.edu

	Well, after much frenzied work(Oh, btw, HI! I'm new here) I produced
the following in .wav and .snd format(.snd aka FSSD/FSSC standard mac sound
format)

All from 2112
"And the meek shall inherit the earth"
"Our great computers build a hell on earth"
"Attention all planets of the solar federation, we have assumed control"*

"Don't annoy us further, oh we have our work to do"
"They left our planets long ago, the elder race still learn and grow"
"They left our planets long ago, the elder race still learn and grow, their
	power grows with purpose strong, to claim the home where they belong"
"They left our planets long ago, the elder race still learn and grow, their
	power grows with purpose strong, to claim the home where they belong,
	home to tear the temples down, home to change!"
"I stand atop a spiral stair, an oracle confronts me there"

"We are the priests of the temples of Syrinx"

I can do more, but all I have to work with are 2112, Chronicles, and Moving
Pictures.  If anyone wants other albums...Mail me the CD(I'll send it back!)
or wait until I feel the need to buy it(grin).
I'll be happy to grab what you want..

____________________________________________________________________________
Sean McCarthy IS             {  }"I'm told it's my duty to fight against
thealien@cs.unlv.edu          }{   the Law, that there's freedom in my blade
thealien@redrock.nevada.edu  {  }  and that wizardry's my trade.."
"Chaotic is NOT Evil!"- Me    }{    -Black Blade by Blue Oyster Cult
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 00:59:01 EST
From: jenkinsp@kenyon.edu
Subject: rtb

Yo Rush fans.  Can anybody explain the "Now it's dark" from the jacket of Roll
the Bones?  My friends and I thought maybe it meant that they were through, and
we panicked.  Also, can anyone confirm for sure that Rush has a new album due
out in June and a concert tour starting in September?  

    [ Sorry folks, let's not get excited over this June deadline for the
      new album, or the tour in September.  This is *FALSE* and can be
      traced back to a posting in alt.music.rush on USENET.  The album
      is scheduled for Sept/Fall '93 release and tour has been pushed
      back to Jan. '94.					:rush-mgr ]

My top 5 albums:
5)Moving Pictures
4)Permanent Waves
3)Presto
2)Hold Your Fire
1)Hemispheres

 In my mind, those 5 are the clear best.  I want to say hi to Daryl and Eric.
             Later--  Peter Jenkins

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 01:42:33 EST
From: My new mail header <vaghini@scoman.enet.dec.com>
Subject: RE:Popularity of Rush

	Murali...

	I happen to know for a fact that Rush can be enjoyed while
	in a stupor.  Granted it can also be enjoyed any other time,
	but perhaps you should try setting down on a cool summer
	afternoon with a few limes, some tonic water, and a bottle
	Stoli, pop in Hemispheres, and go into one.  You'd be surprised
	how moving a stupor can be...

	On a totally different note, has anyone else noticed that female
	Rush fans are a totally different creature?

	Johnny

+--------------+  "Almost entirely, but not quite, unlike tea"  +--------------+

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Subject: Hear -n- Aid
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 7:13:10 GMT
From: Dominic Binks <binks@compsci.bristol.ac.uk>

Hear -n- Aid was a part of that whole Aid thing at that time. It was Ronnie
James Dio's conception I beleive because 'Heavy Metal' bands weren't really
allowed to play in Live Aid unless they were reforming specially for it.
(Basically there were very few hard rock bands in Live Aid). Hear -n- Aid was a
compilation of a whole load of bands and also includes the song We're Stars
written by Dio. The Rush contribution is Distant Early Warning (freaky - see my
post in yesterday's NMS) Live. It's no great deal because that version is
available elsewhere (in fact on the B-side of the Prime Mover single). I think
this version of DEW is from the same concert as the GUP video. I'm sure a
RushHead on this mailing list will correct me if I'm wrong.:->

     [ You're correct on this.  I've only seen an official tape release
       of Hear-n-Aid and it does indeed have DEW on it live.  I've not
       seen it again for about 4-5 years now.  You could probably find it at a
       use record shop or something.  I doubt it's out on cd.  :rush-mgr ]

Dominic Binks
binks@uk.ac.bris.cs

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Date: 30 Mar 1993 01:37:43 -0600 (CST)
From: The Return of the King <AR03666%SWT.DECNET@relay.the.net>
Subject: about the working album title

(insert (sub) standard comments about it being my first post here)

    I have yet another theory about what "Critical Mass" could be
    referring to.  How about something along the lines of a
    church blowing up on Sunday? (I'm not trying to be
    anti-religious, but considering some of the past album names,
    this seems like a valid interpretation)  I know this almost
    begs to lead into the old time worn topic about "Is Neal
    Peart an Atheist?" (OK, it doesn't almost beg, it screams).

    Allen

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 07:24:00 +0000
From: "Oliver (O.R.) Sampson" <olsam@bnr.ca>
Subject: Rush-Metallica connection.

As for the Rush-Metallica connection, I remember an interview
with Geddy Lee from some years back (85-87ish) where he was asked
what he thought of bands like Metallica--heavy and fast.  Geddy's
reply was that he (not sure this is verbatim) "loved bands going
a million miles an hour.  I think it's great."

Happy racing.

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Subject: Re: 03/29/93 - The National Midnight Star #651
From: alester@farpost.chi.il.us (Andy Lester)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 23:37:37 CST

[... much hoohah about the Branch Davidians ]

> 	#10. FLY BY NIGHT ("...fly by night, away from here...")
> ...
> 	#1. YOU BET YOUR LIFE

Didn't a comparable list like this come out when We (the mighty World
Police) were in trying to get Manuel Noriega, and there were lists of
songs that we used to get them out?

This is just too similar to believe.  What's your source on it?

---
alester@farpost.chi.il.us           I can only refer to it as "the purple
Andy Lester, Palatine, IL           dinosaur."  Otherwise, I might get sued.
Fidonet 1:115/934

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 09:19 EST
From: LIFE IS MERELY WHAT WE DO IN BETWEEN HOCKEY <FORD29@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
Subject: Time Stand Still at Weddings

Greetings and Salutations,

   On the subject of Rush music played at weddings, I happened to be the
best man at a wedding last October, and before I accepted the job, I told
the couple in question that they must agree to play Time Stand Still at
the reception.  They did.  It seemed to me to be the perfect song for
such an occasion.

ford29@vms.cis.pitt.edu

"Pittsburgh Penguins - 1992-93 Patrick Division Champions"

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Date:       Tue, 30 Mar 93 15:28:16 BST
From: "Roger G Haworth   userid " <SRGH0%IBM-B.RUTHERFORD.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk>
Subject:    Lard...

JACS Computer Room, x1774.
E-mail (JANET): srgh0@uk.ac.rl.ib

In response to L Clator Butler Jr's question regarding Hear 'n' Aid...

This was a project related to Live Aid back in 1985. Ronnie James Dio (one of
the best rock vocalists ever) was the brains behind it, and also wrote the
single (Stars) released with the album. The single had various rock luminaries
perform on it, such as Adrian Smith and Dave Murray of Iron Maiden, Geoff Tate
of Queensryche, Vince Neil and Mick Mars of Motley Crue, Ted Nugent, Blackie
Lawless of WASP, Vivian Campbell, Jimmy Bain and Vinnie Appice of Dio (Viv now
of course wasting his time and talent with Def Leppard)...even Spinal Tap made
an 'appearance'! There are many more, but my memory of those days is fading.
As far as I DO remember, Rush had no part in the single, but instead
contributed a song for the album, which I think (and I stress think) may have
been a live version of 'The Spirit of Radio'. If anybody can confirm this or
correct me I'd be grateful. The rest of the album featured songs from various
other big name (at the time) rock bands. Some of the songs were previously
unreleased. I'm sorry, but I can't remember who they were by, or what they
were! Never mind, I hope this has helped anyway...

	[ The song Rush contributed was Distant Early Warning.  :rush-mgr ]

There has been much discussion recently comparing Geddy Lee and Sting. My own
opinion is that Sting may not necessarily play such flamboyant lines as Geddy,
but he generally plays a fretless, which is much trickier than fretted. I
don't think I've ever heard Geddy play a fretless.

Finally, to John Santore. I'm sorry there hasn't been more interest in the
convention. I would go if I could afford it, but Toronto is a hell of a long
way from the south of England! I wish you all the best, and I'm sure I speak
for the whole NMS membership when I say I really appreciate your efforts. Of
course, that isn't going to make you feel a whole lot better when what you
need is more financial commitment from people who could get there! COME ON YOU
LOT IN NMS LAND! DON'T JUST LET THE CONVENTION FALL APART! There, I've said
it...

Actually, this is the final point - what's happening with the thing that shall
not be mentioned?

Large nards,

Rodge

'Let us not go gently to the endless winter night'

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 10:38:17 EST
From: JOHN P GEMMELL <gemmellj@merrimack.edu>
Subject: Hear -n- Aid

Hear n aid was Canada's version of USA for Africa "We are the world..."
Some of the artists who were a part of this project were Rush and Brian
Adams.  I'm not sure who else took part in this...

john gemmell
merrimack college
north andover, ma 01845

"Go Bruins !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
the contents of this posting does not necessarly reflect the opinions of
merrimack college

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From: Mark Landin <landin@cherokee.nsuok.edu>
Subject: What Critical Mass means
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 10:39:10 CST

Someone stated that the new album might be called "Critical Mass" and
wondered what that meant in relation to nuclear physics. Well, I'm no
nuclear scientist, but basically, a "critical mass" of uranium is the
smallest amount of uranium necessary to carry on a self-sustaining nuclear
fission reation. When a uranium atom splits (fissions), it releases a
fast neutron, which will fly around, with the itention of hitting another
uranium atom which will split and release a neutron which will fly around and
hit a uranium atom and .... you get the picture. If you don't have a critical
mass of uranium, this reaction just peters out (hmmm....peters out, Peter
Collins, Critical Mass....just coincidence?). Above the critical mass, the
reaction just keeps multiplying (hmm...references to "Chemistry"?), and you
have to deliberately slow the reaction down or it will melt your reactor and
go to China through the floor.

I'm sure some other readers will post explanations too. One of the most re-
freshing things about Rush is that the general Rush fan seems to be slightly
more intelligent than the average bear. I'm sure Rush is glad that their
fans generally have the brainpower to recognize and decipher all the hidden
meanings in their songs and album covers and nicknames, etc.
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*  Mark C. Landin					Northeastern St. Univ *
*  landin@cherokee.nsuok.edu					Tahlequah, OK *
*  Opinions are mine alone. (Volume and site licensing pricing available)     *
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 10:47:00 CST
From: UC512052@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu
Subject: Have YOU sent in YOUR deposit for the convention?

I called up John Santore yesterday and talked with him for 10-15 minutes.
The guy is REALLY psyched about the POSSIBILITIES for the convention,
however, he sounded downright UPSET that there hasn't been a bigger
response.  It is obvious that he has spent a lot of time preparing this
for us.  He also mentioned the POSSIBILITY of getting someone VERY
IMPORTANT from Anthem Records.

My deposit is now on its way.  How about you?  Maybe you're wary about
the convention actually happening.  John tells me (and please, John,
correct me if I am wrong) that no one's deposit check will be cashed
until he's sure it can really happen - so you don't have anything to
lose (except 29 cents).

So far the NMS has actually done everything it has talked about (our CD
is coming along) so let's not blow our track record now!

Regards,

David "If you still choose not to decide, YOU CANNOT HAVE MADE A CHOICE!"

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Date:    Tue, 30 Mar 93 12:37 EST
From: <JPM136@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: convention funding

Greetings all,
    This is my first post to TNMS so I'd like to say thanks for having me.

    Also, the reason why I am posting is because of my concern for the
convention.  Mr. Sanatore <sp>? reported that the number of people signed up is
low.  I know I can't make it, but I would hate to see this fail.  So here's my
idea:
    A few people inquired about video tapes of the event.  I am also interested
in one.  If the people who are interested in the tape are willing to pay out
some extra funds perhaps we can raise some money for the event that way?
     Please comment on the proposal.  Maybe we can make the convention happen.
Great things usually start small!
                                         Respectfully,
                                               Joe Maletta

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Subject: Rush and Satan
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 7:31:08 GMT
From: Dominic Binks <binks@compsci.bristol.ac.uk>

    [ Please check out Neil's editorial on Rock and Satanism.  Also for
      you fans reading this check out Dominic's PS. message at the
      bottom of his post.  :rush-mgr ]

Sorry to post again, but I've been deftly avoiding replying to this thread in
alt.music.rush, but since it's turned up here I hope some sensible discussion
(which has not been covered before) may be started up. By the way just so you
know where I stand - I am a Christian.

        Heavy metal megastars RUSH sing 'All the world's a stage'
   The reversal reveals the words " Oh Satan, you, you are the
   one who is shining wall of satan , Walls of sacrifice . I know
   it's you are the one I love ."

Assuming this is a correct transcription by raghubn@vigyan.iisc.ernet.in (which
I am).

I'm no linguist but this doesn't make sense to me. The words aren't formed into
sentences. In the last sentence there are 2 parts of the verb to be with the
same object and subject. I think that it's fair to say that Rush would never
let anything so cack appear to their name. Even if they were to do such a thing
I'm sure it would be done with the usual finess with which they approach all
their music.

If people want to sing about Satan they usually do it forwards - this way it
will receive a bigger audience. Since Rush are primarily concerned with getting
messages across to their audiences - thus were they to sing about Satan I think
they would do it forwards.

I didn't beleive that Judas Priest and Ozzy Osbourne had the things in their
music they were accused of and if I don't beleive it for them I certainly don't
beleive for Rush. In fact one of the reasons that the Judas Priest case was
such a mockery was the fact the Judas Priest themselves played the album
backwards that they had reportedly put all these messages in and it was quite
amusing and a lot clearer than the massively enhanced backwards vocals that
were supposed to be there.

Finally (sorry for boring some of you) Rush spend so much time getting things
right going forwards I would doubt they had any energy to worry about what they
are going to sound like backwards, after all about 99.999% of the audience is
going to play it forwards - why worry about what it sounds like backwards ?

Dominic Binks
binks@uk.ac.bris.cs

P.S. If anyone wants to discuss other issues of this it might be better to move
     to email.
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